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Speaker 1: Have you ever uploaded a video or a photo of
Speaker 1: yourself crying to the Internet?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 1: Have you ever been tempted? No?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like no. I just don't
Speaker 2: think the internet's a safe space. I don't know what
Speaker 2: they tried to tell you, but I just feel like
Speaker 2: the internet wants three things entertainment, education, or somewhere in
Speaker 2: the middle like but and crying is usually entertainment. And
Speaker 2: so if you cry, just know you've been circulated in
Speaker 2: plenty of group chats and you've been responsible or instrumental
Speaker 2: in someone's laugh that day.
Speaker 1: Kind of great for the clowns out intown. This headline
Speaker 1: from a few weeks ago piqued my interest. It came
Speaker 1: from Tamman Cursock, who used to be on Home and Away.
Speaker 1: She did a podcast with Luke Cook, who is an
Speaker 1: Australian comedian living in America. I actually meant to be
Speaker 1: on this podcast hasn't happened yet, but he's a funny,
Speaker 1: funny guy. And she was saying how influencers who film
Speaker 1: themselves crying on social media. She reckons it's bullshit because
Speaker 1: if that's the first thing they think of doing when
Speaker 1: they're upset, to take the camera out, she reckons, it's
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: It's not the first thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, they put it on makeup first, right, that's
Speaker 1: the first thing. She was saying this because the only
Speaker 1: time she's posted a vulnerable video of herself crying online
Speaker 1: was when she had a miscarriage, and she said she
Speaker 1: posted it because it was her husband taking the video
Speaker 1: and it was a bit of an awareness piece. But
Speaker 1: she seems to think an awareness piece, what the way
Speaker 1: you phrase it, it's a I don't know how asked
Speaker 1: to say that. However, she thinks that sharing hard moments
Speaker 1: online is important. But yeah, posting a video at the
Speaker 1: exact moment that something is raw is very performative. And
Speaker 1: to which I say, I think that it's a generational thing.
Speaker 1: We've seen all the belhadide crying videos. I think like
Speaker 1: for the generation gen Z, for example, they've always had
Speaker 1: camera phones. It's like very and group chats where sharing
Speaker 1: your face is a normal thing, like be real, Like
Speaker 1: I remember when I started in your group chat. When
Speaker 1: you're really young, you do share photos of yourself constantly.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of like a normal thing. So therefore,
Speaker 1: I think, like putting it on the internet, it's.
Speaker 2: Not that far of a stretch for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: No, Whereas I think, like, if you think about it
Speaker 1: in terms of a social what's it called, like social etiquette,
Speaker 1: it does feel weird from like an oldie weldy perspective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's I would go back to the
Speaker 2: first point in that posting yourself crying is performative. The
Speaker 2: act of engaging with social media is performative. Everything you
Speaker 2: do is contrived, everything you do is curated. Not one
Speaker 2: thing you do on there is genuine. Because there's nothing
Speaker 2: genuine about having an experience and then jumping onto an
Speaker 2: app to share it with strangers for free. It doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense. So I think the argument that it's
Speaker 2: performative and therefore it can't be trusted with an Now
Speaker 2: we have to start looking at everything with that length
Speaker 2: and saying, okay, is it less performative to have a
Speaker 2: cry wipe my and then go like, hey, guys, let's
Speaker 2: be grateful for each other today. I would argue they're
Speaker 2: living in the same boat in terms of just level
Speaker 2: of performativity, right, performance, level of performance. I think it's
Speaker 2: it's tricky because like, I don't I wouldn't do it right.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't cry and then take a photo and put
Speaker 2: it on the internet. But I also think that a
Speaker 2: lot of people have a fundamental misunderstanding of what social
Speaker 2: media is used for. It feels weird because social media
Speaker 2: is turned into this circus for strangers, Like I put
Speaker 2: myself on the Internet for a stranger to consume, that
Speaker 2: is weird. If you're using social media to connect with
Speaker 2: your friends and family, it should not be strange for
Speaker 2: you to emote virtually, for you to share your feelings virtually.
Speaker 2: And I think it's becoming so matter that people kind
Speaker 2: of in use the Internet for its original purpose sharing
Speaker 2: of information. Yeah, the fact that you'd go on and
Speaker 2: make money or you'd go on and talk about like
Speaker 2: the fact that it's more normalized to go on the
Speaker 2: incident to where people existing than just existing yourself on
Speaker 2: the Internet. It's better and it's both lame.
Speaker 1: Smooth smooth back Hoti singer Let's.
Speaker 2: Don't Sitting back Suzy wrecking Ball vibes.
Speaker 1: I will say finally that like I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a very ucy like American tiktoks and people taking the
Speaker 1: piss out of them, like a woman's husband has just
Speaker 1: started and she's put a video out there. Living in
Speaker 1: this Dare I say capitalist society, You're smart to capitalize
Speaker 1: on your pain and your trauma because you will be rewarded,
Speaker 1: So it makes sense to me. I wouldn't do it,
Speaker 1: but wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Free You need to get your bag, and that's the
Speaker 2: distinction we want to make.
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