1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and professional overshare us. This podcast is all about celebrating 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: failure because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows, 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Ulloha, 7 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to a Valentine's Special Potteroony with a special guest, 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: none other than Bossachenko. 9 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: Hello aka Matt Sovo saved. That's very ausy way to 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: say my. 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: And what are you to me? What are you to me? 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: By boyfriend, partner, de facto, lover, lover, bestie, bestie, good 13 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: time pal, good time pal, sweet cheese, sweet cheese, full 14 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: time chef, full time cleaner, dancer, dancer, arm candy. 15 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness? 16 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: What else? 17 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So we're basically doing a Valentine Special pod which 18 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: is all around celebrating love. I've planned a few questions. 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Boss has done zero prep? Is that correct? 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: Absolutely zero? 21 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely zero in raw raw dog and it are we? 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: So if you are single, this isn't like a loved up. 24 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: You know you need to have a partner to listen 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: to this pod. This is for anybody that just wants 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: to celebrate a bit of love. Since we're coming into 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: Cute cute. When is Valentine's Day. 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: The fourteenth feb which should. 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: Be weirm coming out real quick? 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Is that Wednesday? 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Something like that? Yeah? 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: I feel like it is. 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think today's eleventh, isn't it? 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? Which is Sunday, Monday twelfth Wednesday Wednesday. Any plans 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: for Valentine's. 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: Day booth look to be honest? No, okay, but that 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: could change. Uh, we'll just see how We've just been 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: in Melbourne and Sydney, so I feel like that's had 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: all my attention. 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what would be nice? Tell me beautiful 42 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: dinner with a Linser talt? 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: Oh it's talt. Yeah. I can make a talk talk. 44 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: For about a year. 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: So just to let the audience know what is a 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Linsa taught? 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: I think it's like, are we talking about like the 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: history of a Linsa tort or just German? It's like 50 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: Austrian or something like that, maybe Austrian or German. 51 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: But it's just basically like a tart with an armor 52 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: meal base. 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do a hazel up meal base, so it's 54 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: all gluten free everything. So it's like a very short 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: kind of crust like hazel r but glint free flower, 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: a little bit of glinten free flower, an egg and 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: some spices. That's pretty much it. 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh and lemon rind I feel you and lemon grind 59 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: and then what goes in the center. 60 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: And then I just jam what kind whatever you feel like? Rasberry? 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: It's so then we get the vanilla being panna ice cream. 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you just do like the latching on top. 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: So that's what makes it look like a fancy talk. 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: Fancy talk. 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: That could be a nice little Valentine's Okay, I can 66 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: make that for you. And for the listener, we have 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: a little Valentine's surprise prasie for you to hang in 68 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: till the end. 69 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah I did check it with you before. Yeah, I'll 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: hang about Oh good. Okay. So I've got some questions planned. 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: Had on what's your plans for Valentine's Have you planned 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: anything for me? 74 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: Well, we are packing our lives up and going to 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: the other side of the world very soon, so I 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: don't think we should spend moula on each other. And 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: are you doing a bit of booze free time? 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Want to detox this month? 79 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: No booze for Boss doesn't want to. We had a 80 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: whiskey in Seeds, and we had a whiskey in Molbs and. 81 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: That was it. That's it, Donzos. 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: So then I feel like we should just kind of 83 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: like save our peties, okay, or do maybe a belated 84 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: date in Los Angeles, Okay, belated. 85 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: For Valentine's Okay, wonderful. 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: I don't know. What do you think we have? 87 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: We can we can reschedule for the fourteenth of March. 88 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: How about that? 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Oh? What what cuisine would you like over there? What 90 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: would you like over there? We'll see a bit of 91 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Chinese chateau. Oh you've got you've romanticized that place. I 92 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: have not been there in ten years. 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: I don't reckon really, I thought you've never been. Okay, 94 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: been a couple of times. All right, Well we'll figure 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: it out. 96 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. So I've got some questions all around. Obviously, 97 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: the theme is Valentine's and love and all that. So 98 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: first of all, we actually celebrated your parents' fiftieth wedding 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: anniversary last week in Malps. That was one of the 100 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: main reasons that we went down, and it was very 101 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: cute to see how loved up they are and gorgeous 102 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: they are together. And your dad's speech was gorgeous. It 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: was about sixteen minute monologue speech. 104 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: That he'd written and printed out and put. 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: Like mathematician because he's a maths professor, put mathematician like 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: quotes about how many breaths there are in how many 107 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: heartbeats there are in fifty years? Was it sixty one 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: billion or something? 109 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: No, I think was more like the million. I thought 110 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: it was all six point one billion, maybe something like that. 111 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: I'd have to figure it out. 112 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: We'll ask him. We'll ask him to It was. 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: Like one hundred beats per minute times fifty years sixty 114 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: you know. No, No, like sixty sixty minutes in an hour. Yeah, 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: twenty four hours in a day, and any times fifty two, 116 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: you know, times seven, times two weeks in a year, 117 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: times fifty says a lot. 118 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: Oh you, maybe you can figure it out for us. Okay, okay, 119 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: So that was really nice. That was a really sweet thing. 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: How did that make you feel seeing your parents celebrate love. 121 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: I think it was beautiful. I think it was lovely. 122 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: What was the highlight? I think I think the highlight 123 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: for me in general was obviously everyone just getting altogether 124 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: fam bam fambam or very very nice, but also also 125 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: being there with a lot of like Mum and Dad's friends. 126 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: I thought that was really really nice and just seeing 127 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: their friendship group and the people that they hang out. 128 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: We've got a good gang. Ye, like thirty of us there. 129 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: I think I think more, but yeah, there was, like 130 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: you know, at least at least like twenty of their 131 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: friends came, and I think that was just really really 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: nice and it's good to some of them I hadn't 133 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: met before obviously, like I know about a lot of them, 134 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: so that's just really nice knowing that they, you know, 135 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: in their years, have like a nice friendship group and 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: people around them, and like I feel like they go 137 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: out and do more social stuff than we do. 138 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I think you come back into your socialization when all 139 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: the kids leave the nest. 140 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably for sure. Yeah. 141 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: Do you know that that was not my first fiftieth 142 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: wedding anniversary? 143 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: Really? 144 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: Did you know that? 145 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: No? 146 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: I was at my grandparents. Oh that's cute, Bevan fred 147 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Dad's and it was obviously quite different. Yours was a 148 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: lot of dancing and cute, very sweet italiano. 149 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: Music Bevin Fred's. 150 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: So I think you're meant to give each year the 151 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: wedding anniversary is a different themed gift, like and when 152 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: I say thing like one year, it's like paper one 153 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: it's leader once. So I think fifty years gold is gold. 154 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: Hence why your mum got gold earrings. Correct, So I 155 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: think it was more around the like what that officially meant? 156 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: It was the same vibe as yours. Like I was 157 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: at a hotel reception room as well. I know Dad 158 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: gave a speech, but I just thought to let you 159 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: know because I think I don't think I've said to 160 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: you that i'd already been to. It's very sweet. All 161 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: they were both married until they passed away. Nice, I'm 162 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: very sweet, very romance. 163 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: Very roan. But yeah, it was very very nice and 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: nice to nice to be there, nice experience it. Yeah, Fan, Now. 165 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: Matt's not a huge although he's a lover. You're needed 166 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: in all their around marriage. 167 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, don't need it, don't need it? 168 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: And what am. 169 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: I into marriage? Yeah? 170 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? 171 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, I'm fine with it. 172 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm into a celebration of love. 173 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: That's what I'm into totally. And to be fair and honest, like, 174 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: I'm into that too. I just think that like my 175 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: idea around marriage like changed, got it. 176 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: So we are probably on the fence about a few 177 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: things in life, you with marriage and bambeans and I 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: have made it very clear that of the marriage, the 179 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: marriage is something that I would like. I would like 180 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: a celebration of love totally. But I'm look, I am 181 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: of the pagan. I love a bit of pagan. We 182 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: were wrapping of the ribbons around the hands as they 183 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: buy it like ceremonial stuff. I love all that bit 184 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: of nature vibes, bit of flora and fauna, bit of plant. 185 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm into that whole idea as well. I think that'd 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: be nice bar and Hindland vibes. Yeah, yeah, of course, 187 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: yeah yeah. 188 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's where we are on that. I am yes, 189 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: we will do that. He's giving a cute little eyes 190 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: right now, right now, Okay, Well this is obviously a 191 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: very like big question. But what does love mean to you? 192 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: Wow? Wow? 193 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: I excuse me, excuse me. 194 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: I wanted you. I warned you of that question. You 195 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: did warn me of this, and he was in a 196 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: foul mood. Wasn't in a foul mood. 197 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm having a business exact because I farted 198 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: on you. 199 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: Oh yes, you did fart on me. He was, so 200 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: we should do that as a Valentine's a special like 201 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: the grocer? Why why do? And it's mainly it's mainly 202 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: females that just become grosser and grosser. I wasn't grosser. 203 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: Were having a cute little moment a. 204 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: Bit at la stuff together, and I was like, oh 205 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: my goodness, a little a little a little. 206 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Lum love what little love puff? 207 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: He's going to slip out? But it just so happened, 208 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: and almighties, and I could not have been happier. 209 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: You are more not impressed by it, Oh my goodness. 210 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: People listening know that they would for sure totally you've 211 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: been in a long term relationship. Fighting is entertainment. 212 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it totally is entertainment. But my point is 213 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: is that before I get to my point of what 214 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: do I think love is? Yeah, it just nobody prepares 215 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: you for that in life, that you end up with 216 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: a long term partner and you just know you're going 217 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: to get farted on. 218 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Speaking like he is archangel Michael or something that has 219 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: never farted in his life. 220 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: I think that. 221 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: You let off some rippers in the middle of the night. 222 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: In the middle the night. You can't control that. That's 223 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: just that's just nature natural, that's its nature. 224 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Okay, But you also do let them off. Are very 225 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: much conscious in a way. 226 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So it's just. 227 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Girls that aren't allowed to. We have to be a universe. 228 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: I never said that you're not allowed to. I just 229 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: had a little bit of politeness while I'm sitting at 230 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: my desk. 231 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: He said, nobody prepares you for how gross your partner. 232 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: Will over the years. 233 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: It's just like, what else gross do I do? 234 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: Millions of things? Probably weeing in the shower, Yeah you yeah, 235 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: while I'm in there. Not on you though, Yeah, but 236 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: it's probably getting on my feet anti unless I'm asking, 237 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: is it. 238 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're in the desert, I'm pretty sure you 239 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: can drink an we. 240 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you can. It's not obviously like you've 241 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: got to cut we on yourself. I don't think that 242 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: that's we need like a medical expert here anyway. 243 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what else do I do this? 244 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying I want to be weed on. 245 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: I'd ask for it, but not this involuntary golden showers. 246 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: So hang on. I do do some romantic things to 247 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: you on the daily reg though, of course what happens 248 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: every morning? You make me coffee and I set up 249 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: your brecky. That's like with my love note. Yeah, that's 250 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: that's my favorite part of the day. Oh really, the 251 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: coffee or the love note. 252 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: The coffee. 253 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes into bed before you get. 254 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: Up, doesn't it. It's I don't even know how I 255 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: let wing that because that didn't happen from the start. 256 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: I feel like that might have been. 257 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: A Jesus is gonna say? 258 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: Is it a Barron thing? 259 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: No? I would have done it in talk? 260 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: No, no, flat out you never did in talks. 261 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: Maybe not, we're in lockdown. 262 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: I don't know it was a Byron thing? 263 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: Do you know? This is heapy and we were I 264 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: always had a dream of the person I'd end up 265 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: with coffee. No, no, I get up, I'd go to 266 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: yoga appallate's come back and have coffee in bed together 267 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: or sex ones. 268 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: Oh that's rude. 269 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: We have not done. We're not mourning sex oneers. We 270 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: have Where are though, Yeah, I like to meet in 271 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: the middle. Yeah, I'm a morning bat bird, you're an 272 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: evening lad. Anyway, My point is then I ended up 273 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: with somewhere. I get to do that every single day, 274 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: and it's actually something that brings me a lot of 275 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: joy as well. 276 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good, I'm glad it does. But I think 277 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: it's must have started here. 278 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: Not in this house. I did it in bangers to Bangalore, 279 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: did you yes? Because I go to yogat or Pilate's early. 280 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: I actually think it started in this in this house. 281 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: Why boss, I've always been bringing a coffee in bed. 282 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: It happened in talks? You do think? 283 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: Indeed? Did it? 284 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: I reckon it did? 285 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: I can't remember, honestly. I wish I could now, I 286 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: wish I could. I feel like it started in this 287 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: second house, like has only been happened, happening for about 288 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: a year and a bit. 289 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Do you reckon? I just got more romantic. 290 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: I think that. I think that I don't know. I 291 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: don't know. I can't figure this out, but I feel 292 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: like it's it's this place that we're living in now. 293 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, well that's a nice qual because like this 294 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: is like our home that's a nice question. So what 295 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: does love me? 296 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: Do you? Okay? Love? Wow? This is well. I feel 297 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: like it is because because love means different things at 298 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: different times. 299 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: Okay, break it down. 300 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: So I think for me personally, like what is love? 301 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't think for me it's the excitement. I don't 302 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: think it is the big things. I think for me 303 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: it is the tiny, boring, mundane things when I put 304 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: the bins out, yeah that no, no, but the tiny, boring, 305 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: mundane things that like you want to do together. 306 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: So like what pay rates? I know you pay them. 307 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: I know I paid the rates, but like that's like, 308 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: but okay, yes, pay the rates. Like I love you obviously, 309 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: like you know, we're in a relationship all that kind 310 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: of stuff, So like I don't it's not like a 311 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: big deal to to do those things because we're building 312 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: our future together. That's I feel like that's love. I 313 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: think it's more than just your excitement and lust and 314 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: pashion and all those things. And yeah they are so 315 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: important and obviously attraction and those kinds of things, but 316 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like they will go 317 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: away at a certain point and they kind of you know, 318 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: ebb and flowing life as well, but. 319 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: You lose that though, like I could say, it's been 320 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: old and crusty and still very attractive. 321 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: Torn totally, but I think that they like most people's lives, 322 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: like they ebb and flow and that's just human nature. 323 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: But all the other like little things in life, like 324 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: they're constant. And so what does love mean to me? 325 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: I suppose summarize, it's the accumulation of all the small 326 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: little things that you love to do together. Yeah, and 327 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: so it's take away all the shine and the polish 328 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: of love and relationships, and it's just being quiet together 329 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: on the couch or lying in bed and having coffee together. 330 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: Like that's what it means to me. And I don't 331 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: think you know, like yeah you can. You can be 332 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: in lusts and love and not wants like I want 333 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: to spend time with you. I like to spend time 334 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: with you, even though we spend literally like twenty four 335 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: hours a day together. 336 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Not always in Los Angeles, I know. 337 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: But for six months the year we literally like a 338 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: never apart. 339 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: It's nice. Yeah, well I loved your answer. 340 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: Yeah to you. 341 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say being a teammate, which is 342 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: essentially a short, a shorter version of yours, but it's 343 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: it's also like I do like the like excitement and 344 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: sharing the dream together and like going on an adventure 345 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: with you. I do love all that totally, like doing 346 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: the scary, hard things together. But also like if I'm 347 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: afraid of something, having a teammate that you know that 348 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: somebody's got your back and that somebody is like like 349 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: it's a big scary world. And sometimes I'm the kind 350 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: of person that can sometimes be people pleaser and to 351 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: my own detriment and to my own cost, and You're 352 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: like always there to catch me when I do that 353 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: and to be like no, no, like don't forget you 354 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: have a dream here and don't be afraid to go 355 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: after that. Yeah you know what I mean. 356 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's nice. I also think, you know, just 357 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: to expand a little bit, like what does love you know, 358 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: mean to you in a relationship, but what does it 359 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: mean to love somebody? And I think that at the 360 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: end of the day, that meaning is literally just, you know, 361 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: non selfishly wanting the best for that person. So it's 362 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: like when you love someone, it's like I love you. 363 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: So it's like I could be like I don't want 364 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: you to go overseas for such a long amount of time. 365 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: But that's selfish me. So it's like I would only 366 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: be feeling that because like I don't want to feel 367 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: alone or I don't want to not have you around. 368 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: But because I love you, I'm like so okay with 369 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: all that stuff, and it's like I'm happy to be 370 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: in that you know, discomfort, because I want you to 371 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: succeed and I want you to go live like your 372 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: best life. 373 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think like you've just touched on about 374 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: wanting the other one to succeed, Like when you get 375 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: career wins, like I get so flip and excited because 376 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: also you usually kind of like don't let yourself get 377 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: too excited. I don't know if it's coping mechanism or 378 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: definite coping mechanism. Like I love getting excited for you 379 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: and like celebrating you and not like like I think 380 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: I've definitely dated people in the past where it's been 381 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: a bit more competitive, probably on both sides, whether I 382 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: want to admit that or not. But with you, it's 383 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: like I just like I love when you're like, oh, 384 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: I just got to ask to work on this show. I'm 385 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: like and yes, you know what I mean, Like I 386 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: love being your cheerleader. I enjoy that like part of it. 387 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: But that comes back to the teammate thing, which is 388 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: like you've got my back and I've got yours. And 389 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: like I know, earlier this year, like David the Medium 390 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: I had on the pod and he was saying, like, 391 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: because we both have got creative careers and obviously I'm 392 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: so focused on being an actor that like, and he said, 393 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: you'll notice this year, like being in Los Angeles, He's like, 394 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: you're going to notice that, like Matt is going to 395 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: get some really big wins when it's like quieter for you, 396 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: and then you're going to get a win and then 397 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: it's going to be quiet and he said, you'll notice it. 398 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: That'll happen, and it'll like ebb and flow, which to 399 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: me is like beautiful and exciting because it lets us 400 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: both celebrate one another when the other one has a win. 401 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And I think, yeah, that's that's definitely the 402 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: key relationship and the kind of world that we work 403 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: in as well, you know. Yeah, I mean I'd be 404 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: so happy if you you know, booked a big job 405 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: and then I just get to come to like Europe 406 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: for a couple of months. 407 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: Base yourself there. Yeah, oh my goodness, could you imagine. 408 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: I could be you could be my sugarmuma for three months. 409 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't like that saying at all. 410 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: Really, no, mummy pays the bills. 411 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: That is fair all that is grosser than the fart 412 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: thing you said earlier. 413 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: Have you seen there's like a funny mement's like when 414 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: your girlfriend like pays the bill and it's like the 415 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: guy always like stands behind and puts his arms around 416 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: her waist while she's like paying the bill. Actually funny, 417 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: that's actually no, but yeah, no I get. I think 418 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: it's just it's sharing the load in life. 419 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I am very excited to have 420 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: a March fourteen Valentine's in America. American. 421 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: Another thing that you do quite well is like I 422 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: know that, like I joke around about doing the bulk 423 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: of like the cooking and all that kind of shit. 424 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: But you're very good at when I'm like, you know what, 425 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to fucking do it, You're very good 426 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: at just like stepping in and just doing it without 427 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: even like you know anything. 428 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Matt thinks I have adult ADHD, but I actually am 429 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: getting shit done at any given moment totally. I know 430 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: you are, Like like even like as you were seeing 431 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: this pot up, I quickly went out and like main 432 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: us both chlorophyll waters, loaded the dishwasher, like made sure 433 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: that I like, and I'm getting the house clean because 434 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: they're photographing it soon, you know. And I'm just like 435 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: constantly like or trying to sell our stuff on deepop 436 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: so we don't take too much stuff to America. Like 437 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm constantly in that phase of like how can I 438 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: kind of like make stuff easy for us so that 439 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: we're less stressed, And so I don't always talk to 440 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: you about it, but I'm always kind of doing something. 441 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 2: I know that and I do notice all of that 442 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 2: as well. 443 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: No, but I think even when you are stressed and 444 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: I step up, that's only usually around food stuff. I'm 445 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: usually trying to get something done in the house or 446 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: for our to better our lives any one time. 447 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 2: But I think like we pick up the site for 448 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: each other like when we need. 449 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: To, and you are my you are my superpower when 450 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: it comes to boundaries because I'm still shit at them, 451 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: like and you helped me like put a boundary in place, 452 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: like and even things that happened like recently, You're like, 453 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: you've got to, like, you have to set a boundary there, 454 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: otherwise that that thing is going to keep upsetting you, 455 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: or that thing is going to keep robbing you of time. 456 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: And you're you know, so I love that you're so 457 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: good at that. So thank you. 458 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: Okay, next question, Jeez, we went on a few tangents there. 459 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: Best date, Oh doesn't need to be me. I saw 460 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: his eyes flutter for a second there. 461 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: Do you know what oh that is? That's you can't 462 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: throw that on me. 463 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: Worst date then, because that's the next question. 464 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't remember worst date. 465 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: I've got a bad date. 466 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: You've got a bad date? Yeah, do you want to go? 467 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 2: You go first? Then what's your worst date? So? 468 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: I had never kissed a boy. I went to the movies. 469 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: Here we go. 470 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: I just had my braces titaned, Yeah, I have braces on. 471 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: I got to the date. 472 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: Sounds bad. 473 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I got to the date and I was like, oh, 474 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: I don't like this guy. Like the moment I got 475 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: to the movie theater, I was like, I did not 476 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: like this guy at all. You know, you just know 477 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: in your bones. And so I made up a joke 478 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, my teeth are really not joke, 479 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: I made up a story. I was like, my teeth 480 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: really saw. I got my braces tightened today. I don't 481 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: e fin kiss me, dude, I don't want you to. 482 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: And he still went straight in tongue and all. And 483 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: I was like, get me out of here. Gross first kiss, 484 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: first date, first everything. Yeah, yees, remember his names, remember everything. 485 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: I even remember the movie The Mummy Returns. 486 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: Oh wow, do you want to watch that on Valentine's 487 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: No way. 488 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: It was just like I just like I was like, 489 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: get me out of here. And again there's the no 490 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: boundary Lola that is like it doesn't want to be 491 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: in this scenario. And next minute I'm someone I'm not 492 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: into is shoving their tongue down my throat. 493 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah not fun. No, it was not. 494 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: There was no foul play, by the way, I just 495 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: didn't verbalize that I wasn't into the person at all. 496 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: That would go down in history. Is my worst date? 497 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: I think I can't. I don't think I've ever had 498 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: like a really bad date. I've had another bad one 499 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: actually as an adult. Yeah, I think I've told you 500 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: a bit. 501 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: I was I think, like, what's like the worst Valentine's Day. 502 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: You've had. 503 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: Valentines. Yeah, I've had a funny Valentine. 504 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: Has anyone like have you been on like a date 505 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: on a Valentine's and they've like stuffed it up? 506 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: No, you've got to get me a present. 507 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: One year, Oh you were so sulty. 508 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: He got me a one rose. I got you so 509 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: many presents that year. I got your Gatsy Martini glasses, 510 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: I got your Martini. 511 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: I got your long It was when we first moved here. 512 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you went rocked on down to the bungalow 513 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: foul flowers, brought me in one single rows and I 514 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: was like, excuse for me? And then a week later, No, it's. 515 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: Okay, we're too we know well I took you out too. 516 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: That was probably an afterthought. Boom, let's be wious. 517 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 2: We went to raise. 518 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'd love to do that. 519 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: Well we can do that. 520 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: No, off the boost. 521 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: Wagon, I'll have a mocktail. 522 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: No, that's a waste. 523 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: I took it. We took I took it a raise. 524 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: What did I do? A week later? 525 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: My favorite perfume just magically showed up. I've dated it. 526 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: I dated a guy on Valentine's though, and it was 527 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: so hot, and we decided to meet on Chapel Street. 528 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: It was one of those forty five degree heat days 529 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: and he had a whole bouquet of flowers waiting for me. 530 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I had anything for him. I don't 531 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: think I was into this one either, And I just 532 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: remember him profusely sweating, and we met at someplace on 533 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: Chapel Street where they did those like ice God could 534 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: drinks like ice ashes Temperance Hotel, yeah, somewhere like that, 535 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: and to cool him down, and I was just like, 536 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: this is so. He was just such a sweet guy, 537 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't like him. I sound like a mean goal. 538 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: So funny, okay, since we're sharing x'es. I think it 539 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: was like maybe maybe the second year with my ex, 540 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: and her birthday is oh yeah, I know which one. Yeah, yeah, 541 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 2: her birthday is like close to Valentine's. So birthday I 542 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: bought like an incredible gift and was it. It was 543 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: like lubatons, Oh my, you never bought me. Then I 544 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: bought you the designer. Yeah, I'm going to buy you 545 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: the same president anyway. And then two days later, obviously 546 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: Valentine's and I'm like, well it was about both of us, right, 547 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: so and obviously, like again, I'm my primary cook and 548 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: you know all that kind of shit. So I bought 549 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: us like a really expensive like fry pan, like a 550 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: Jamie Oliver like yeah, and she was so off me. 551 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: That's crazy because it was a birthday day before and 552 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: you would have spent it sounds like thousands of dollars 553 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: or a grand and a half. 554 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: I think it was maybe a grand maybe less. And 555 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: then yeah, like and the pan was not cheap either, 556 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: And what did. 557 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: She get you? 558 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: I don't think she got me anything. Then she needs 559 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: to drop off maybe like a flower and some chocolates 560 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: or some shit. I was like, this is for both 561 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: of us, and I'm going to cook dinner for us, 562 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: and you. 563 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: Know, yeah household item. 564 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know about that. 565 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't feel good or bad about it. It depends. 566 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: I think. Here's the thing. I think you've got to 567 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: lay the law out before. So when we were in Bangalore, 568 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: we had a bit more money because we weren't putting 569 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: all our money into saving for a house, right Whereas 570 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 1: now we're about to go to America mortgage life, all 571 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: that monarchy. Our money is friggin' We're aware of our pennies. 572 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: So I think, like, you don't need to go above 573 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: and beyond when you know for me what I. 574 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: Love you like a card and effort. I love a card. 575 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: I love a good love you like just and like 576 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: just a thought for something. Yeah thought okay. But so 577 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: household items for Valentine's Day off the table. Apparently I'm 578 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: neutral for that. I'm so into it. I'm like, if 579 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: you bought me that, I'd be like. 580 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: So if I came home with the dice and you'd 581 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: be like. 582 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: How I would be? 583 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: I think I feel like because I've done you remember 584 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: when I did that massive deal with Brebel, and like, 585 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: your family got shit and my family do me give 586 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: your sister like a humidifier your mom and toaster and 587 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: a blender. My dad got a brand new blender. Like 588 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: the whole family just went mental and got stuff. So 589 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: maybe I look at household stuff different thing as I 590 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: get them for work. 591 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: Imagine if we got that deal in America. No, like, 592 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: when we came in here and we're like, our house 593 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: would have been decked out with all. 594 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: The newest and the sickest coffee machines and stuff. 595 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Anyway, hopefully they're listening. 596 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so that's worse. What about have you had 597 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: a best date? 598 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: Nah? Like, I think every year I've spent with you, 599 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: I've really really enjoyed. Okay, I've definitely enjoyed, like Valentine's 600 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: with you more than anyone else. Like that's the truth. 601 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: And I've just been so happy just like I mean, yeah, 602 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: we've kind of gone to raise and had a drink 603 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: and it's nice just done that the last couple of 604 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: years here and again. I think Valentine's isn't I don't 605 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: think that you need one day to celebrate fucking love. 606 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: It's the accumulation of everything that you do throughout the year. 607 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 608 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: So if you're only doing shit on like one day 609 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: for your missus, like buying the flowers, like you know. 610 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: That's you're missing the point. 611 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: You're missing the point, you know. And it's a beautiful day, 612 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: but it is a it is a day that just 613 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: you know, people in relationships celebrate and if you single, 614 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: it you know makes you feel like shit because you've 615 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: got no one. 616 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, isn't it like peak capitalism Americana? 617 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. And I think there's a lot of pressure 618 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: on Valentine's day as well. 619 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, from both it doesn't and also don't flower prices 620 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: go through the roof. 621 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely everything goes through the roof. 622 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you almost want to celebrate it like a 623 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: week earlier or a week later. 624 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Anyway, Valentine's Day every day? 625 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: What's a good idea for like a Gallantine? So if 626 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: girls are single and hanging together, Oh, what would you 627 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: think is a good idea? 628 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: Honestly? I would just be like, get together at someone's house. Yeah, 629 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: get a couple of big doners and some snacks. Yeah, 630 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: and just like put on a movie and like chill together. 631 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: Just be there for each other and have like a 632 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: fun night together. Yeah, it doesn't matter, Like if you're single, 633 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: it's like you shouldn't be feeling bad that you don't 634 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: have like a Valentine, be Valentine for your friends. I 635 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: love that booth. Yeah, Gallantine Valentine. Maybe we'll send some 636 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: mess like happy Valentine's messages out. 637 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Do you know when I was in primary school when 638 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: it always gets sent to my house and my dad 639 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: would write it. 640 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: Too, that's cute. 641 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it would say from your admirer sequent Avira, 642 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: and he'd try and change his handwriting and everything. Would 643 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: He's got a very specific can right, yes, all in 644 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: block letters instead. 645 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: Oh how funny? Yeah? 646 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: How nice? 647 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: Is that? It's super nice? 648 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so we have actually been talking for quite some times, 649 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: so we can talk about the giveaway now if you want. 650 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what are we going to give away? 651 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'm seeing and we do the pink hot chocolate 652 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: because love and pink and hearts and stuff, the Hindland 653 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: hot chocolate and a copy of Beauty Food signed beautiful 654 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: as a little Gallantine. So all people have to do 655 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: to enter is just write to me on Instar and 656 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: just say what you've got planned for Gallantines or Valentine, 657 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: and our favorite one will win the Prezzi and you 658 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: can get it signed to you or a Gallantine or 659 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: a Valentine. You like that? 660 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? I love that. 661 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: It's just a nice little pressy. Okay, So let's just 662 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: let's just end on a couple of fun questions. But 663 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: we are doing a Valentine's hot Seat for Wednesday. But 664 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: do you have a favorite romantic movie? 665 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: No? 666 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: Oh see, I love Valentine's Day? Really yeah, I love romance. 667 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: So on like happy endings. 668 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: I've just finished like a romance movie. Technically yes, I 669 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: feel okay, great, Harry Pottery. 670 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite love song? 671 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: Uh? I can't. I could never answer that, no way. 672 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: So I love Green Gloves by The National And I 673 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: told you in my roommate always. 674 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: Do you think thought it was like a funeral song? 675 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: But you think it be a nice wedding song? 676 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: I think anything the National is like the most beautiful 677 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: stuf to get married to. 678 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, any of it. 679 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: It's like, but you're not totally drinking the kool aid 680 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: the way I am. 681 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 2: No, I like it, but I'm not. Yeah, you don't. 682 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: Love that kind of super melancholy music though the way 683 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: I do, Whereas I could like on repeat, I love 684 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: all that like heart wrenching music like the new David 685 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 1: Kushner song Skin and Bones. 686 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: Yeah I love what. 687 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: Is You're like? Yeah? 688 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: Cool? Yeah? 689 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it? Okay. So in wrapping up, we're 690 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: going to do a belated Valentines in Americana. Okay, does 691 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: that sound good to you? 692 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: You're going to put out maybe if you're lucky. 693 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: If you're lucky, I love you, boss, Happy Valentine and 694 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: the listener Happy Valentine's too. We hope you have a 695 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: great Valentines or Gallantines or whatever you choose to do. 696 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: To celebrate todayes. What's the boy version? Bollian time? Okay, 697 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 2: lovely only Boy. 698 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 699 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation 700 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yumo Lollerberry. 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