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Speaker 2: The Chief Minister, Natasha Philes on the line, good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, Chief Minister.

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Speaker 3: Morning Katie, morning listener.

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Speaker 2: Chief Minister, you at tendered the funeral yesterday that was

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, there was a prayer service yesterday for Safat

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Speaker 3: loved him. And it's absolutely heartbreaking. We are just devastated

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Speaker 3: as a community. This is not the Northern Territory we

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Speaker 1: It's really not.

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Speaker 2: I mean the fact that we have got an international

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Speaker 3: It's awful and that alleged home invasion and murder and

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Speaker 3: police have got a perpetrator that is being held on bail.

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Speaker 3: But as a government, we don't want this for our community.

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Speaker 3: We're doing more than any other government to tackle crime,

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Speaker 1: Chief Minister.

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Speaker 2: The Labor government's been in now for six years and

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Speaker 3: So Katie, we're focused. There's more police on the beat

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Speaker 2: What urgent action is the government take king following his death?

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Speaker 3: So Katie, as you were aware, there is a number

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Speaker 3: You'll see a budget handed down today that is more

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Speaker 2: So obviously, besides the money that's being invested in today's budget,

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Speaker 3: So Katie, we are reviewing our bail laws for offenses

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Speaker 1: Well at the moment though we don't.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have seen somebody allegedly murdered inside his

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, we will see in the Commonwealth budget today

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Speaker 3: hard work. But as I've said, there is more police

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Speaker 2: How many more innocent lives are going to be lost

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Speaker 3: That work is underway, Katie, but.

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Speaker 2: How many more lives are we going to see lost

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Speaker 3: And Katie, as I said, we have done more than

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Speaker 1: So why is it getting worse?

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Speaker 2: Where is the bail review ash right now? I mean

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Speaker 3: We're developing a knife strategy. We don't want to see

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Speaker 1: So she's going to start there.

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Speaker 2: Look, honestly, people are going to be listening this morning

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Speaker 3: Katie, As I said, there is more police on the beat,

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Speaker 1: We are literally at a crisis point.

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Speaker 3: So Katie, we have been working and we will continue

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Speaker 2: So is the look, do we need the feeds? Do

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Speaker 2: So that's all you need from the federal government right now.

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Speaker 3: That's not what I just said. You ask me what

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Speaker 2: Chief Finister, how can you ensure the safety of international

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Speaker 3: Katie, it's absolutely heartbreaking for that family and for the

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Speaker 2: Now you speak about those police numbers, you told me

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Speaker 3: Is that right, Katie. I'm not able to comment on

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess what I am keen to find out

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Speaker 3: So Katie, there was a legal process, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: I suppose what I'm trying to get to the bottom

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Speaker 2: of is if you know, if that legal advice was

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Speaker 3: So Katie, we were guided by the Solicitor General through

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Speaker 3: this matter, and I cannot publicly comment.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep moving. There is a lot happening today.

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Speaker 2: The budget's being handed down. Can territorians expect further announcements.

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Speaker 2: You touched on it before. You said that there's going

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Speaker 2: into other programs. But do you think that that's going

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Speaker 2: to be enough to quell the concerns from territorians around

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, this budget invests in our future, It delivers

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Speaker 3: for all territorians. It will outline our economic position for

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Speaker 3: every territory, no matter whether they're in the city or

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Speaker 2: And so when it comes to some of those initiatives

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Speaker 3: Katie, there's extra money for police, extra money for justice,

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Speaker 3: money to address any social behavior and the social determinants

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Speaker 3: that are a factor when we deal with crime and

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Speaker 3: antisocial behavior and community safety is and absolute priority.

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Speaker 2: What else can we expect some cost of living measures, Katie.

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Speaker 3: We know that territorians are really struggling with the cost

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Speaker 3: is absolutely savings relief in there, whether it's on the

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Speaker 2: Chief Finister on Howard Springs, I want to ask you

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Speaker 2: about that very quickly. Obviously, the issues with damage out

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Speaker 2: there have been much greater than just that wear and

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Speaker 2: those repairs going to cost?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Katie, I don't have that figure in front of me,

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Speaker 3: but the facility has been stood down and all of

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Speaker 2: You must have an idea of how much it's going

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Speaker 2: to cost. I mean that tender went out, I understand

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Speaker 3: So Katie, my understanding is the seventy five hectares, the

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Speaker 3: three and a half thousand odd rooms. They you know,

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Speaker 2: So you're not prepared to tell territorians how much it's

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Speaker 3: So Katie, there was wear and tear damage and we've

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Speaker 3: been through that in inches of time. I won't go

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Speaker 3: where windows were broken around I think it was less

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Speaker 3: there in terms of laying charges and if there's any

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Speaker 2: So hang on, you're saying there was only how many

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Speaker 3: That was a part of that incident that happened after

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then my understanding is that nine News Darwin

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Speaker 3: I haven't had that figure presented to me, Katie.

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Speaker 2: How have you not had that figure presented to you

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Speaker 2: if Channel nine's gone out there and seen.

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Speaker 3: That, Katie, I apologize, but I have not been advised

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Speaker 3: around six hundred windows. I'll take that question or notice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, you know, I think the fact that you've

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Speaker 2: now we're you know, we see in that report by

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Speaker 2: nine newsdar and six hundred windows and then you're still

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Speaker 2: talking about six It is making people question where you're

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, as I've outlined, there's full assessments that are

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Speaker 2: Okay, just finally, is that Code yellow still in place

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Speaker 3: I understand it is still in place, but they're looking

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Speaker 3: at their pressures have eased at Royal Dalwen and Palmerston

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Speaker 1: And so there is going to be some money.

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Speaker 2: I know that you've already preempted some funding in the

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Speaker 2: budget today for the health system. Is there any other

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Speaker 2: had yet another Code yellow?

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Speaker 3: So Katie, there is significant resources in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 3: budget for health, including work and we've been doing work

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Speaker 3: with age care mental health. And there is also money

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Speaker 3: to help ease those bed pressures but also plan for

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Speaker 1: All right, Chief Benes, still we better leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time this morning, Take care Bye.