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Speaker 2: I love how relaxed you are when it's not your podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm way past my bedtime. Now you're talking to delirium

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Speaker 2: Delirium, welcome back to Two Doing Dads. I'm Mattie Jay,

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Speaker 2: I'm Ash. This is a podcast all about it's the good,

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Speaker 2: the bad, and the relatable. And if you've come with

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Speaker 2: oh my.

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Speaker 1: God, you're on the intro, so giving away this secret.

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Speaker 2: There is a lot.

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Speaker 4: There's what I would call a man in the bushes,

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Speaker 4: and that's Laura Burne. Tonight, I'm having a sleepover at

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Speaker 2: I am here. I am here in the house.

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Speaker 1: Well, just in case you like it's a long story, why.

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Speaker 2: I am recording from the car and Ashes inside the house.

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Speaker 3: I moved in feeling back the layers of how you

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Speaker 3: guys do this podcast. It's it's astounding that you manage

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Speaker 1: That's that's the biggest best cop we ever had.

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Speaker 2: So look, Laura is here.

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Speaker 4: But before we go any further, we are all three

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Speaker 4: of us, even Laura's cracked one must be must taste good.

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Speaker 2: I've already had yours and Laura, just so you know,

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Speaker 4: Ah, the Hinterland, I've had a heap of friends since

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Speaker 4: it's become a core rain. You actually reach out to

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Speaker 1: I would describe it as a hinterland hazy.

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Speaker 4: Paler, hazy and pale hazy and with a hint of

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Speaker 2: Okay, Laura, you have to try and guess one of

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Speaker 2: the type of hops that they use in this beer.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong?

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Speaker 2: Galaxy Galaxy hops?

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Speaker 3: The fuck is a galaxy hop? Do you like this world?

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Speaker 4: So Stone and Wood we are drinking a hazy paler

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Speaker 4: is a care range Now It is the hinterland Hazy

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Speaker 4: Which is just north of Byron Bay, and it's a

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Speaker 4: beautiful and we thank them as always making this episode possible.

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Speaker 2: Give me one flavor, have a sip.

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize this had turned into a beer tasty.

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Speaker 3: Because I am the preferred parent, so Lola wants nothing.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you.

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Speaker 2: How many years?

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Speaker 3: You guys have been together for thirteen years.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how she did how she does?

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Speaker 3: Wow, she deserves the medal? Did you give it one?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're sicky.

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Speaker 4: We celebrated the anniversary. That's our anniversary when we started dating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we did, we just had dinner.

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Speaker 2: So what would April like to celebrate all of them?

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Speaker 1: It's exhausting, man, So she wants to.

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Speaker 2: So she wants to celebrate the wedding anniversary and the

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Speaker 4: So you have your cake and eat it too. She

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Speaker 3: How many have you forgotten? Not in terms of like

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Speaker 2: And can I just say, well done, thank you, great work.

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Speaker 1: I'm one in a million.

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Speaker 1: Fucked why do you guys do that? That's fucking fir.

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Speaker 2: We celebrate it.

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Speaker 3: We don't. He's lying. Do you believe it?

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Speaker 3: It was the finale, and then the finale we went

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Speaker 3: No, we see nothing. He had no idea what he

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Speaker 2: It could that could have happened.

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Speaker 3: You would have no idea. You don't do anything other

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Speaker 2: I normally side with April. I think April's wrong.

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Speaker 1: You think she's wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's the wedding and that's it. Once you get married,

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Speaker 3: You are right, Ash, I disagree, and the reason why

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Speaker 1: Seven years and.

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Speaker 3: You've been together for thirteen years, so you took your

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like, no, we've been married for seven years.

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Speaker 4: But people would assume that this time before that, you

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Speaker 4: don't just be like, hey, instead of dating, why don't

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Speaker 3: Some people do that. It's crazy, But why not celebrate bo,

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Speaker 3: Why are you punishing her?

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Speaker 3: Does she ever listened to this podcast every time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? She's embarrassed most times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not punishing her. First of all, I just want.

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Speaker 2: To why do you hate your wife?

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Speaker 1: Well? It's simple, it's simple, really. I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: Do you want to just take the opportunity whilst we're

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Speaker 1: Or happy anniversary, Babe, I love you Bruh. She's a

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Speaker 4: Ko's got you covered this footy season with every game

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Speaker 4: of every round live and ad break free during.

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Speaker 2: Play It's going to be a massive week of sport.

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Speaker 2: Actually have the NBA Playoffs begins April twenty. First, don't

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Speaker 2: live on ESPN, available on KO and.

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Speaker 4: Matt my favorite sun Corpse super Netbak. We've got Lightning

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Speaker 2: The Moto GP Spanish GP is Sunday four am. Every

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Speaker 2: Moto GP qualifying practice and race is live and AD

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Speaker 1: And lastly Matt.

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Speaker 2: It is a massive week of sport and there's plenty

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Speaker 2: of room for everyone, so get on board with KO.

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Speaker 2: It's now also available on hubble. We do have Laura here.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: The first question is what's it like being married to

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Speaker 1: We're not married.

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Speaker 3: It's exhausting. There is a quote somewhere which is like

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Speaker 4: I thought you're gonna say, it doesn't matter how beautiful

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Speaker 3: No, there's no one more beautiful than I think it was.

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Speaker 2: I think there's like a meme guy in is a

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Speaker 4: Kinds of things like that.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly so split second, I thought I was in Texas.

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Speaker 3: You are very, very amazing. You are a wonderful, wonderful husband.

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Speaker 3: You are the You are the best guy. No, he

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Speaker 1: Like our listener's foolings, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: I will get to a point a second. You are

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Speaker 1: Are you a council worker? Pretty deep?

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Speaker 2: That started out so beautiful, but then actually things that

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Speaker 1: Just out of the twenty seven cheeks, you were the

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Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what happened. Okay, then that leads

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Speaker 4: Here we go, this is what I mean? Almost Can

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Speaker 4: I just stop it? This is the only reason I

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Speaker 3: Your most annoying habit is that you brush your teeth

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Speaker 3: What do you do?

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Speaker 1: Swallowed the water?

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Speaker 3: You swallow toothpaste of water?

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Speaker 1: Why I was on an aeroplane.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I do want to get up off my seat.

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Speaker 2: As kids, my mom used to get so pissed off

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Speaker 1: No jizzy on the towel.

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Speaker 2: Stop setting me up.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, I can't help myself and I'm.

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Speaker 2: A child, and it said stop wipe your wash your

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Speaker 2: But she was just over the town's been covered in.

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Speaker 4: Was that right below the sign that said peel that

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Speaker 3: Skin without context. For anyone who hasn't heard that.

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Speaker 3: I do want to say, though, your mum is now

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Speaker 2: No one's perfect, so you still do that.

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Speaker 3: He does it every single It's like a smidge of two. No,

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Speaker 3: We fight, but we fight about really stupid stuff. We

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Speaker 2: Massive blue on the weekend.

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Speaker 4: You know what the worst thing is you can say

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Speaker 1: Fuck what?

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Speaker 1: All right?

448
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 2: Snappy tom? Oh wow Tom, snappy la.

449
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 4: Matt does this thing to me, and he did it

450
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 4: heaps in America, and I actually had twice.

451
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: He is enough times that I said, can you stop that?

452
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: Can you?

453
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: He would be like, he relaxed, bro.

454
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 3: Oh, it's really it's so fucking it's really patronizing, and

455
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 3: he we joked after that.

456
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: We laughed because I know what he's doing.

457
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 4: Then it became a joke like we would be back

458
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 4: and forth, like will you relax?

459
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 1: Don't you yell at me?

460
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: So Matt's an antagonizer. He loves to antagonize. He loves

461
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: to antagonize, and then when you buy it back, he

462
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 3: gets upset that you be that that happens. But no,

463
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 3: we'd have a really petty things because like we genuinely

464
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 3: were all couples too, We're very lucky. We don't fight

465
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 3: about the big stuff. And that's what I kind of

466
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: meant by in the past relationships that I've had, we

467
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't even fight over the small things because there were

468
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: so many big things too fat about that they got

469
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 3: away with so.

470
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: Much your relationships, godship.

471
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: So that we have stupid fights. Like for the weekend,

472
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: for example, the kids were in the prem we were discussing,

473
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: like what we were going to do first in the day.

474
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 3: I just had a conversation with both Lola and Mali

475
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: around the fact that we were going to go to

476
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 3: the beach then we were going to go and get

477
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,239
Speaker 3: food whatever it was, and Matt and I we were

478
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,959
Speaker 3: all together, so we'd all had this conversation together and

479
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 3: literally as the conversation finished, Mac goes, so, guys, what

480
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 3: do you want to do first? And I was like,

481
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? We just

482
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: had that conversation. He goes, Oh, we don't need to

483
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 3: get angry at me.

484
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then that that's a very good impersonation.

485
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: That was it to get angry. And then and then

486
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: there was like an expectation that I would apologize, because

487
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: I snapped.

488
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: By saying he does too.

489
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 3: So it's it's just stupid ship. We really dumb stuf.

490
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 4: And I like April and I are the same, Like

491
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 4: we fight over the smalls, over the what are we

492
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 4: doing today?

493
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: Is a really really big one, to the point.

494
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 4: Where April the other day I caught her where she

495
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: wanted to be so ahead of that fight that she

496
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 4: had her shoes on.

497
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: At six o'clock in.

498
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: The morning, she slept with the mother.

499
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: From the fight. She was like, I've already decided what

500
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: we're doing. I've got my shoes on.

501
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: You're not even out of your fucking pajamas yet, so

502
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: I get to decide what we're doing.

503
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: You didn't sleep just I was like, I'm getting out

504
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: of the bed with the kids, like holding both kids,

505
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 2: and I look down and go, are your fucking shoes?

506
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: Wait?

507
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: So does this mean that both kids were in bed

508
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: with you? They're both in your April's.

509
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 4: Up, she's showered, shoes on, completely ready to do something.

510
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: You know why she's up showered with shoes on, because

511
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: she's being kicked in the spleen for the entire night

512
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: by two kids in the bed.

513
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: No. No, no, they are only in the bed in

514
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: the morning. Okay, right, so do you have shoes on it?

515
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: She's like, no, But that's like one of the big

516
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 4: fights like that we have. It's something so small, it's

517
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 4: just small stuff.

518
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: It's small, it's insignificant. But I think what our big

519
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: problem is is that we fight in the same way,

520
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: and we are both equally as stubborn, but we're both

521
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 3: so stubborn that we think the other person is more stubborn.

522
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 3: So it's like a competition on stubbornness is.

523
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: The most stubborn of the stubbornness.

524
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: So one of us has to cave and say sorry

525
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: or like, it's not even a story, it's cave for

526
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: a cuddle right after the after the petty fight.

527
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anything because we're we have

528
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: planned to have sex tonight.

529
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: Not well, I'm in the house.

530
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 3: Downstairs, so it's fine you can't hear.

531
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 2: So I'm just going to say I've only come to

532
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: watch ois I'm leaving. I did get it. I did

533
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: get an anonymous question. Okay, So this question is if

534
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: someone says something hurtful in an argument, how do you

535
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: get over that post fight?

536
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 3: If someone says something hurtful? I mean, I think it

537
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 3: depends on what seid, right. I don't think that you

538
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: can have a blanket of just like oh, you should

539
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: never go to bed without being angry or should always

540
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: make up like I personally, I find it very, very

541
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: challenging to go to sleep still being angry. But that's

542
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: a selfish thing. It's because I can't sleep, so I

543
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 3: want to I want to make up so that then

544
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: I have a good night's sleep. Matt, on the other hand,

545
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: has not really any problems. He's quite happy to go

546
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: to sleep and don't want to.

547
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: Go a bit angry. It's way easy to go to

548
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: bit furious.

549
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: Just make the fire go further, get it done. Matt

550
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: could go to sleep. I think you could anyway, like

551
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: still being a bit frustrated by something, Whereas like I myself,

552
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 3: I need to fix it, and so I know that

553
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: that can be even more annoyed.

554
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: It's true we've not gone to bed with that resolving

555
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: an argument.

556
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: Because I don't really ever let that happens.

557
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: A few times I pretend to be asleep, but I'm not.

558
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: I just I lie that I.

559
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: Feel an argument like we need to talk about this

560
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: an argument coming on, guys.

561
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 3: But I think think for us, because the stuff that

562
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: we fight about is never really personal and it's always

563
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: petty and stupid, that I think we should resolve it

564
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: before we get asleep. But if it's a big problem

565
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: if your partner has done something that's like or said

566
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: something that's like deeply hurtful. I don't think that you

567
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: can just instantly get over it, And I think that

568
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: you have to like work through the why, like why

569
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: did you feel it was appropriate to say that? Like

570
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: what was the reason? Where did that come from?

571
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: Where as you're related?

572
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: If you've got to say something so deeply personal, you

573
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: can't get over it within that time frame.

574
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: And it's like, is it because your partner's like so

575
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: bad at communication that the only place that they can

576
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: go to is to hurt you in an argument because

577
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: that's like their way of getting a barb across. I

578
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: think that there's so many well layers there, and I

579
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: also it's so dependent on what the insult is as

580
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: to whether or not you can easily get over it.

581
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: And sometimes it takes time and sometimes it takes a

582
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: lot of conversations.

583
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 2: That's a very good answer, But admitting fault is the

584
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: first step, I think.

585
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: But like the person has to take responsibility to do that.

586
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: So if you're the one who's been hurt by something

587
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: and your partner is not validating you or taking responsibility,

588
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: then like you can't really just get over it. That's

589
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: not fair either, So that responsibility is on them to

590
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 3: come to the table.

591
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: There's always going to be that some sort of shittiness

592
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: unless the person who's done the.

593
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: Wrong has said, look, I acknowledge I've done the wrong.

594
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: If they never don't do that, and then what you're saying

595
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: is that like there's always going to be some shittiness there,

596
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: and like, I'm not going to get over it until

597
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,719
Speaker 4: you can acknowledge that you've actually said that.

598
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if I can, if I can go to

599
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: sleep and then wake up the next day like it

600
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: never happened, and.

601
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, maybe you do. Because there are couples

602
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: who can have big fights, a barb can be thrown out,

603
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: and then they never talk about it and they just

604
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: kind of continue on as everything's fine. But the problem

605
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 3: is is, like so much resentment will in that relationship

606
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 3: if you never ever discuss it and you're just like

607
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: holding it in, at some point it's going to come out.

608
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, each to their own, but I always do an

609
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: internal gasp when people say that they haven't spoken to

610
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: their partner in five days. Yeah, I can't an argument

611
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm not spoken in five days and how do you

612
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: do that?

613
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: I'd love silence is she stopped talking to me? No

614
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: one to talk.

615
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: I don't believe that you talk a lot. You talk

616
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: so much to yourself.

617
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't even talking to you guys then I was

618
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: just talking to me. Okay. So I have a question.

619
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: It's not a question from me, it's a question from

620
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: tash Hi tash hish.

621
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: Now.

622
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: The question reads, how do you, Laura spend quality time

623
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: with the girls being a full.

624
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 3: Time working I think we have a very good system

625
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: now in terms of like the way in which the

626
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 3: load of work is managed. I think last year we

627
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: had a very bad system, and it was a lot

628
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: to juggle in terms of finding quality time versus just

629
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: time just.

630
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 4: Jumping there really quickly. I've come into this relationship last year. Yeah,

631
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 4: and last year was crazy, both of you guys. Yeah,

632
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: it's nice to hear you found it.

633
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: There's been a bit more balanced, But like work was

634
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: a lot, Like we did live shows for Life on Cut,

635
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: I run Tony May. I'm also like very much proactive

636
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: and running Life on Cut. And then also we have

637
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: the kids and a dog and a husband, and you

638
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: know that's just all the things. And now cat, But

639
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: I would say that every day after school, like we

640
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: do some from the pickup of the girls until dinner

641
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: and bedtime, like I'm really plugged in in that time

642
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: of the day. The morning's are a bit chaotic for everyone,

643
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: and then every weekend we are. We have such good

644
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: quality time on the weekend as a family, all of us,

645
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: And even though work is a lot, I think the

646
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 3: biggest thing is having a partner who also does so much.

647
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of relationships and a lot

648
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: of parenting, the majority of the load falls on the

649
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: woman to do it. And I know that's not in

650
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: every relationship, but I would say for a majority of

651
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: my friends it is, And so I don't know. I

652
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: kind of like partly almost I struggle with the question

653
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: because I'm like, well, most women have to try and

654
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: figure out how to feel work in and then fit

655
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: time in for the kids, and most men are able

656
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: to go to work and still fit time in for

657
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: their friends and everything else. So I guess for us,

658
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: the fact that Matt is so proactive and has always

659
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: been proactive and has you know, there's been times where

660
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: I've done the majority of the parenting because I had

661
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: to be pregnant, and then I had a newborn baby

662
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: on me twenty four seven, and then the last year

663
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: Matt kind of took over and he did a bit

664
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: more of the parenting and it gave me an opportunity

665
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: to focus on work. And then this year we've rebalanced again.

666
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: So I mean that having that support and having that

667
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: equalness allows for more time to both of us clock

668
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: in and have quality time with that.

669
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 2: Pretty good, ash, I'm pretty good.

670
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: I've just gathered from that that answer.

671
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 4: But like you did mention then, like it could be

672
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: so one sided, right, that someone would be completely doing

673
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: like the majority of the parenting load and then the

674
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: other being so work heavy, and it can be so

675
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 4: easy for that person who's really work heavy to find

676
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: it hard to find time something outside of that. Then

677
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: we spoke about it with Tom, the last guest we had,

678
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 4: where he was like, because it's his business and it's

679
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: his job and consuming, it's so consuming, and like for

680
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: me like the last twelve months, because this is also

681
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: new to me, is that I don't just switch off anymore. Yeah,

682
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 4: I've got to I've got to consciously go Okay, time

683
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: is now is for the kids and for April and

684
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 4: like April works three days a week, then she's got

685
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: those days with the kids. So it's like we try

686
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 4: and make it work as best as possible. So it's

687
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: called a lack of a better word, even.

688
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: I think the big thing though, is is like you

689
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: can't do everything right. So before we had kids, I

690
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: used to do so much exercise, Like exercise for me

691
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: was such a big part of my happiness. It was

692
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: a big part of my me time. I don't have

693
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: time for that me time, Like the amount of exercise

694
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: I would like to do versus what I'm able to

695
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: do now when I have to try and you know,

696
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: do the gnger puzzle of like work and the kids

697
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: and relationship staff, the going to the gym thing is

698
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: the thing that has fallen by the wayside.

699
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: If you wanted to say prioritize that again, just say, hypothetically,

700
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: where do you think that your brain would go to

701
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: find the time to do that. Would it be out

702
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 4: of the family time or would it be out of

703
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: something that you do professionally.

704
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: It would have to be able to worktime, because like

705
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: they can't. Like we don't sacrifice the weekends anymore. We

706
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: very rarely sacrifice weeknights.

707
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: Like unless you at seven o'clock on Sunday just gone.

708
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: One time for how long fortnutes?

709
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Dare you take?

710
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: Just for for like perspective on that, what we're in April,

711
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: I've been to pilarateis three times. That's three times times.

712
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: Three times are going to the gym this year? So

713
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: for me, I really enjoy work like work is something

714
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: that gives me a lot of purpose. It makes me

715
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: really happy. So in no way am I working and

716
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: being like, oh my good, good do with this stuff.

717
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: But I quite enjoy working. And so if I've got

718
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: the kids to bed and then I stay up, and

719
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: sometimes Matt and I will stay up and we'll work

720
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: till eleven o'clock at night or eleven thirty at night,

721
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: Like that for me doesn't always feel like a chore.

722
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: Sometimes it does. Absolutely Sometimes I wish that we could

723
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: spend more quality time together, as in Matt and I,

724
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: but I don't think my relationship with the kids is

725
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: where the quality time suffers. I think sometimes it's the

726
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: relationship with that we have where the quality time suppers.

727
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: Well, then I was going to ask a question, but

728
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: I think I'll rephrase it. I was going to ask

729
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: do you get parent guilt based on how much you

730
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: take on a workload perspective? But I think i'll ask

731
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: do you get instead of parent guilt? Do you get

732
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: partner guilt instead partner guilt? This feels like a very

733
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: loaded question, Matthew Johnson, do you want me to ask it?

734
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: I definitely get parent guilt sometimes, and I get it

735
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: for example, like tonight when I was saying I needed

736
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: to load some photos of Raspberry up onto the app

737
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: to so that Lala and Marley could show and tell

738
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: show and tell at daycare, and I didn't have the

739
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: right app on the phone. So like Matt was like, oh,

740
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: you need this app. Now, this is the app you

741
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: should be using. I'll bring my phone over you can

742
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 3: load it on on my phone. So in our household,

743
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: some of the logistics things, some of the things that

744
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: I think usually fall on mums, like the mental load

745
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: stuff Matt has taken on. And so then every so

746
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 3: often when I become aware of that, that's when I

747
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: feel guilty. I don't feel guilty about the quality time

748
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: I spend with the girls because I think i'm and

749
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure there's times when I can be better,

750
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 3: but I do feel like I'm a very plugged in mum.

751
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 3: But it's the small things that they don't see around

752
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: the organization of their life that sometimes I think I

753
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: lack in. That's also because I'm a very unorganized person

754
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: in general, but you really pick up the pieces for

755
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: that stuff. In terms of partner guilt, is that Have

756
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: you ever heard of relationship guilt as a guilt?

757
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: This is all new to me. I'm just I'm just

758
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: sitting back here run down.

759
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: No, I don't think. I don't think I've ever considered

760
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: it before. But it definitely is a thing because once

761
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: you have kids, your relationship changes and then you're especially

762
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: if you're both working and you both have other things,

763
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: And it's a unique case. I guess for anyone who

764
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: owns a business, you probably know what it's like. But

765
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: when you own a business, it's not you have X

766
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: amount of hours to do in a day. You know

767
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: you have X amount of hours to do in a week.

768
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: You just have a never ending list of jobs that

769
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: need to be done and you could work twenty four

770
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: hours if you let yourself. So that is a very

771
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: real thing. I think I only get or feel really guilty.

772
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: I have noticed that you seem like you're unhappy, like

773
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 3: or you're like clocked out, or like even in the

774
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,479
Speaker 3: last couple of days, I'm like, what's going on? You're

775
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: not being happy? Like what have I done? And they're

776
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: the moments where I worry that like I haven't given

777
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 3: you enough to make you happy. And then there's sometimes

778
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: where So for example, last week, Matt said he came

779
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: home on the Thursday Wednesday and he was like, do

780
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: you know what, Tonight, We're just going to put our

781
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: phones down when the kids go to bed and we're

782
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: going to spend time together. But then on Thursday I

783
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: had going live one of my biggest campaigns for Tony

784
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: May for the year I had to do. I had

785
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 3: to do content and some other things for it on

786
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: the Wednesday night, and I was like, look, that's great

787
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: in theory, but like, tonight is not the night that

788
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: would be a great thing, but we need to plan that.

789
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: We can't. You can't just come home the afternoon and

790
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: say tonight tonight with with no phones. Had we spoken

791
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: about that early in the week, we could have done

792
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: it on a Friday.

793
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, they get this trying to be spontaneous.

794
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: But then there's also being realistic, and that's why I'm like,

795
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: I know it's not sexy to schedule things. I get that,

796
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: but sometimes it is important. When there's so much going on,

797
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: you'd kind of have to do those things a little bit.

798
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: I look, the whole relationship guilt thing just makes me

799
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: feel shit now because I asked the question about anniversaries

800
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 4: and now it's like, fuck, maybe I should feel more

801
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: partnership guilt. I should be feeling more like maybe I

802
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: could give more.

803
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, what do you think of that in

804
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: terms of like you're how you feel Monday to Wednesday.

805
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: I think you feel as though we don't get to

806
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: spend any time together, which we don't because like we're

807
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: in a house together, but we're both working a lot.

808
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: I think I think as well, maybe given that we're

809
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: currently got I'm a celebrity on TV, you're managing Brits socials,

810
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: so that's just like an added layer of work to

811
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: a schedule that's already bursting at the scenes, and then

812
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: you have to now watch this show and do all

813
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: of her socials off the back of it. It kind

814
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: of means that when the kids are in bed, from

815
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: that moment, you have to watch the TV and then

816
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: the TV show finishes, and then you have to then

817
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: jump on work for a little bit and then edit.

818
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: And then upload and then get stuff re any Thursday.

819
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it has been like, you know, Sunday night,

820
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night.

821
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: The outside looking in right for the last eighteen months

822
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: or whatever it's been. Personally, I don't think any there's

823
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 4: always been something right, dancing with the stars, something else happening,

824
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 4: like the live shows. It seems as though like there's

825
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: always like, like, you guys are turbo.

826
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: And I said that to my ages ago in an episode.

827
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: We're talking about how busy everyone is and stuff like that,

828
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: and it's like, fuck, Like I personally, April and I

829
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 4: couldn't handle how to like completely turby your lives are.

830
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely moments where it's a trade off, right.

831
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: It's great to have what we have, which is off

832
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: the back of the amount that Laura works, especially and

833
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: I know that we would be where we are right now.

834
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: She didn't take on that. It's easy to have moments

835
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: we don't appreciate what you've currently got because of sacrifices

836
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: that you've made.

837
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also I mean, it's not all doom and

838
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: gloom like I mean, we we also we both work

839
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 3: in an industry that's very similar. So at the same time,

840
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: as much as like we both work a lot, we

841
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: also get to work together a lot.

842
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: It's also really a sporadic industry. Like yeah, like this

843
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: for example, right, all of a sudden lays down, I'm

844
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 4: going to be on a celebrity.

845
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: You need to manage my socials.

846
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: There's a very there's so many variables and in your

847
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: relationship because you both do the same thing.

848
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: Like for April and I not working.

849
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: I work now all of a sudden in this industry,

850
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: but her she's very like nine to five as best

851
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 4: as she can.

852
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: There's no real sporadic changes.

853
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: When I've noticed with you guys, it's like because one

854
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: that's Dancing with the Stars comes out, it's like someone

855
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 4: offers you something, you've got to say yes, the opportunities.

856
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 4: If something came up with Matt, he's going to say

857
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: yes the opportunities. Then there's brit who's gone away. Now

858
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: you've got to take on that.

859
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think it's more than that though, right, So,

860
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: like you and April work in different industries, as well

861
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 3: as doing different times. Right, So if you were both

862
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: completely focused on your jobs and not able to focus

863
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: on your relationship, the void in what you have to

864
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: talk about and the void in understanding each other's day

865
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 3: is so like it's so vast because you do such

866
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: different things. Whereas like Matt and I do the same

867
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: job in a lot of ways, and we talk about

868
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: work together all the time. I balance, except he comes

869
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: up with like some of the stupid reels that we

870
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: do for jobs or for ads, like he'll come up

871
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: with the concepting. So even though we're both working a lot,

872
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: because we both work within the same like the same industry,

873
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: because he's very creative, even from like a Tony May perspective,

874
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: like him coming on board and helping with like the

875
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: ads or helping to design a men's range. So I guess,

876
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: from like that perspective, I feel as though we still

877
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: are able to have like we still know what's happening

878
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 3: in each other's days, like we're still so clocked in

879
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: with each other. So I don't feel like a deep

880
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: sense of guilt in that way, But I guess sometimes

881
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I would love to spend time together,

882
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 3: just go out for date nights, not be talking about

883
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: work some kids, or we're talking about the kids. Are

884
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 3: we talking about like you know, the schedules? But yeah,

885
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 3: I don't I personally, I maybe talking for myself, but like,

886
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: I think that there's way more days where we stop

887
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: and we go or mag we're so fucking lucky than

888
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: what we sit there and go, go, God, I feel

889
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: disconnected from you.

890
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: Like that, that's good.

891
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: That's good, And I think that that's a real testament

892
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: to our ability to talk to each other and like

893
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: explain how we're feeling and thinking about things.

894
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when like when April and I had dinner

895
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: the other night, it was like at a moment they

896
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: were like, hey, we haven't spoken about the kids in

897
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: ag years. But then I also was like, I don't

898
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: remember the last time we actually had dinner just together.

899
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

900
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: So it's like, fuck, how easily and how quickly the

901
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: small things like that can just slip away to the

902
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 4: waist and it might not seem like a big deal

903
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: until you sit there and you go, oh, we haven't

904
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: had dinner. Last time we had dinner was this time.

905
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Twelve months ago.

906
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why she's trying to do it twice, now

907
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: are you. She's like, it's true to celebrate, but I

908
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: think I mean, and for anyone who's like juggling kids

909
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: and work and relationships, there are very few people who

910
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: have children who there I mean, I'm yet to meet

911
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: one whose relationship is unaffected in any way, whose relationship

912
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: doesn't in some way go down the priority order. And

913
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: that's not to say that it has its moments where

914
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 3: it kind of like wrestles its way back up to

915
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: the top. But you are forever jog those three things

916
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: the work, the kids, the relationship, and then like forget

917
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: about your own personal time or your own priorities of yourself.

918
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 3: Like it's those three things that are constantly like moving

919
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: around and trying to re find their way to the

920
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 3: top of the pile.

921
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: You know, every change from situation, you got to figure

922
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: it out and how it works best.

923
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 3: Totally. I mean, this is probably it's probably too much,

924
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: but I'll go into it because it's I went and

925
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: watched an Esta Parell talk last year, and she's an

926
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: incredible relationship expert and I love her teachings. And one

927
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: of the things she said, and it was around how

928
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: much we deprioritize our relationships after we have kids, And

929
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: she was like, if you love your children, the best

930
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: thing you can do for your kids is prioritize your

931
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: relationship because not just because they get to grow up

932
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: in a household where they have two parents who are

933
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: within a you know, a family unit. And I don't

934
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: want anyone who's a single parent to think that I'm

935
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: singling them out and saying that their kids aren't going

936
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: to be fine. Your kids are going to be fine.

937
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: But what she was saying is that you also have

938
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: children who grow up with parents who have modeled what

939
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: a healthy relationship looks like. So it helps them for

940
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: when they start dating and they start looking for relationships

941
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: because they've come from a family where that structure already exists,

942
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: and so.

943
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: Much can rub off onto them. You know that day,

944
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: We see that day today, right Totally.

945
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 4: There's things that I say to Oscar and then sometimes

946
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 4: you'll say back to me, like a week later, I'm like.

947
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: Shit, who taught you that? I know this guy? And

948
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, I need to.

949
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: Rethink about maybe how I say that around you, because

950
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: they just they do little rubs off, so.

951
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they look at how you interact with your

952
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: partner with their you know, their mum or their dad.

953
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: They see that. I know.

954
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: Abyone and I had an argument in the car, which

955
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: we the other day.

956
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: We rarely rarely argue, and you could tell that both

957
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 4: of my kids were both.

958
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: They were rattled because it's like this never happened. What's happening?

959
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

960
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: Are we all breaking up?

961
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: It was like, and then it was like, all right,

962
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: turned to the kids together. Look, so we had a disagreement.

963
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: We are now on the same page.

964
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: We're all on.

965
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: But don't judge me the way you guys are.

966
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: Also, I'm pretty sure I saw you sit on Macy

967
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 4: and you want me to sit on April.

968
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: Lola kicked Molly may square in the nose two days

969
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 3: ago and she just looked at us for nothing. Mully

970
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: did absolutely nothing, and then she just straighten the nose.

971
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: And kids to judge us or we are.

972
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: Just kick him in the face.

973
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 4: Seems like applausible solution to the situation.

974
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: What is one thing that you wish that I understood

975
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: from a mum's perspective.

976
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 3: I think that's really hard to answer because I think

977
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: that you are perfect. No, no, no, not that you're perfect.

978
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: And that's what we have time for. No, that's another

979
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: joke we always put in there. That's all we have

980
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: time for.

981
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: Matt is a unique case because Matt grew up with

982
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: a single mom for a lot of his upbringing, and

983
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: and you have such an incredible relationship with your mum,

984
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: so I feel like you've had a real insight into it.

985
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: She's still single, the relationship.

986
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: Dynamics, and also because you have taken on so much

987
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: of the load over the last couple of years. But

988
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 3: one of the biggest fights Matt and I ever had,

989
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: and I don't know if you guys has ever told you,

990
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: but it was like we are judging, made a.

991
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: Very clear decision not to bring it up in the podcast.

992
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: But since right now that we're.

993
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 4: Here, now we're an hour and fifteen minutes in, let's

994
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 4: unpack it.

995
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: Well, okay, no, and it's eleven o'clock and night when

996
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: I do my best work. Yeah, no, it was around So, like,

997
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: I think, the time that we struggle the most is

998
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: when we have very little children. So I'm talking like

999
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 3: newborn babies, and that's because all of the load of

1000
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: the newborn baby falls on me and I guess not

1001
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: being able to have the help or the assistance in

1002
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: a way that's constructive. I think was really really hard

1003
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: for me. And you know the fight you guys talk, yeah,

1004
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: and the thing, and I think it's a fight that

1005
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: everyone has in those first few few, you know, months,

1006
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: and what was happening was like I was bringing Marley

1007
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: to work with me every day. I was bringing to

1008
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: Lola to work with me day when they when she

1009
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: was a new born as well, and Matt then had

1010
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: his day to get work done. And then when I

1011
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 3: came home, he would take the baby. But he would

1012
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: take the baby so I could get work done, so

1013
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: he would be able to go to the gym, and

1014
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: he would go out for lunch with his friends, and

1015
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: he did things because he had time to be on

1016
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: his own a bit. Then whereas like he would take Yeah,

1017
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: I know it must be nice, it must be nice.

1018
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: But what I think Matt realized one day, and it

1019
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 3: was from like us having to have this big sit

1020
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: down conversation. I was like, when I don't have the baby,

1021
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: because you have her, I'm working, but when you don't

1022
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: have her, you get to go to the gym. So like,

1023
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: there is never ever ever a time where I get

1024
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: free time for myself it's either one hundred percent baby

1025
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: or one hundred percent work or I'm asleep. Plus then

1026
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: you want me to have sex with you. I was like,

1027
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 3: do you not see why?

1028
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: I like?

1029
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: But I think that that was probably the biggest time

1030
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: where I was like, it's you don't quite understand what

1031
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: it's like to constantly have this little thing on you

1032
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 3: that wants to feed and it just wants you, because

1033
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: that's really hard.

1034
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 4: It was a really big difference between mom and dad. Yes,

1035
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 4: actually those earlier my kids. Now, I'll walk downstairs, neighbor's

1036
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: got both kids hanging off her.

1037
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oscar, give her some room.

1038
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: He's like, this is my wife, lady.

1039
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: Do you think you're talking to him? Talking to you?

1040
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: And he'd be like, shut up, shut up and go

1041
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: like the bed.

1042
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: What is Oscar?

1043
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: Now?

1044
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: He's four and a half, isn't he say? Like Marley?

1045
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: He's a week older than Marley?

1046
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: Okay, right, yeah, No, our kids are obsessed with dad.

1047
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 3: Oh Lola, no Marley. Yes, we split them down the middle.

1048
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: We've got one more question for you, because we always like, well,

1049
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: I've asked a few times on the podcast.

1050
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: We've spoken about it a couple of times, I've had

1051
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: a sectomy. Matt hasn't endured that as yet. I want

1052
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: to know, is there a possibility for a third child,

1053
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: a third Johnson.

1054
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: A third Johnson's cat. Do you want to have another kid?

1055
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: I think so?

1056
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: So this has This is why the pendulum has swung

1057
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: so wide. I've watched it and I can't keep up

1058
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: with him because only a couple of months ago, Matt

1059
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: said he did not want to have another child at all.

1060
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: Because you're advocating for it. You pulled me aside and

1061
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: said we're having a third.

1062
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: Personally for me. I don't want another one for you.

1063
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 3: Oh, there is enough plants and cats and everything.

1064
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: Be honest, I don't need it. Why I don't need

1065
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 4: you guys to have any more?

1066
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 3: Is it the stress of what I would requires?

1067
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: Already?

1068
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm stressed out, man.

1069
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 4: The plants are staring at me, the cat's staring at me,

1070
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 4: a three legged dogs staring at me. And now you

1071
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: want to introduce a fucking baby to stare at me

1072
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: while I'm here too.

1073
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: Okay? So I always thought it's funny for me because

1074
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 3: I never really ever saw myself as being a mom

1075
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: like I didn't. I never had on you I never

1076
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 3: had the maternal paul. I never ever dreamt about being

1077
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: mom or I didn't even know if i'd be a

1078
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: good mom. Really. I was like, that seems like you

1079
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 3: require a lot of patience to do it. And then

1080
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 3: I had Mali, and I well know that I met Matt,

1081
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: and you really wanted to be a dad, and so

1082
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: you really wanted to be a dad. And I think

1083
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: it was your excitement about wanting to be a dad

1084
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: that made me have excitement about wanting to be a mom.

1085
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: Even though I kind of knew it would be my plans.

1086
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: I just didn't have this like big maternal pool. Then

1087
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: Molly came around, and I loved it so much more

1088
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: than I ever thought I would. And I think people

1089
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 3: are so quick to tell you all the bad bits

1090
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: about parenting, and people don't really stop and tell you

1091
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 3: the incredible bits.

1092
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: Bits are so much more fun to talk about.

1093
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: That's what totally and people we revel in complaining, right,

1094
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: Like that's my favorite. Humans love to complain. There's this

1095
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: real like shared almost like like like shared camaraderie when

1096
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: we complain about stuff.

1097
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: All we do on this podcast.

1098
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 4: We're complaining about how the meads uncooked but I will

1099
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 4: say you're also a great mum as well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I love being a mom, I do want

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it so much more than

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Speaker 3: I ever thought I would. And I look at Loland now,

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Speaker 3: and you know, obviously, whether we have two, we have three,

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Speaker 3: I'm still a mum for as long as I am

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Speaker 3: on the earth. But my thing is I look at

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Speaker 3: Lola and I can't believe that I'm never going to

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Speaker 3: have another little person like that. She's the youngest that

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Speaker 3: there is ever going to be in this household. And

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Speaker 3: for every so often, I just have these moments where

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Speaker 3: I'm like, surely this can't be it. And I always

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00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 3: thought I would get to a point of completeness. I

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Speaker 3: thought I would wake up one day and be like

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Speaker 3: after Lola was born. I thought I would have this

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Speaker 3: moment where I'd be like, oh, I'm so done, like

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Speaker 3: tie the tube.

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Speaker 1: So it's a possibility.

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Speaker 3: I would like to I'm thirty eight now, I'll be

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Speaker 3: thirty nine next year. Work is a lot in terms

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Speaker 3: of like contracts and trying to figure out timings and stuff.

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Speaker 3: But if we could have a baby next year, I

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Speaker 3: would be excited.

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Speaker 1: To would you name it after me?

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Speaker 3: It would be named ash Jam pipelets like I know

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Speaker 3: Jamie Little Jimmy Jam.

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely done obviously, how tox me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well I know that you like you feel

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Speaker 3: the chraal it. But my one thing though about like

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Speaker 3: having another kid is that I think people's instant reaction

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Speaker 3: when someone already has two these days and it's two

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Speaker 3: of the same sex, the instant thought is to be like, oh, well,

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Speaker 3: you're trying for a boy, like you're trying for the

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Speaker 3: alternate sex. I love being a mum to girls. I

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Speaker 3: always saw myself if I was going to have kids

1134
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Speaker 3: as having boys, so like it's my parenting thoughts of

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Speaker 3: what I thought it was going to be is completely

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Speaker 3: out the window.

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Speaker 2: I'd always prefer another girl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if we had three girls, I would be

1139
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 3: absolutely fucking thrilled. So I want that to be like

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Speaker 3: on record, so that if we ever do have another girl,

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00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 3: people are like, oh my god, yeah, I just wanted

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00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 3: to have a boy. I want genuinely yeah, I could

1143
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: see us having another kid. Also, Nana just moved in,

1144
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: so like we've got a free baby sitter.

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Speaker 1: I would like to be more involved. If you could

1146
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Speaker 1: be the godfather thank you.

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Speaker 2: I do want to say thank you very much for

1148
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: jumping on the podcast. It's been an absolute pleasure to.

1149
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Speaker 1: This podcast.

1150
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Speaker 3: Sorry I didn't find myself. Thank you for having me guys,

1151
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: it is always the thrill. I did have to bring

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Speaker 3: my own headphones, my own sock to this record.

1153
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: Let's not go into details about you, but that's my sock.

1154
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: It is, but I had to put it on my

1155
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: own microphone. And I really like the grassroots feel of this.

1156
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Speaker 2: We'll have you back if you would accept the invite.

1157
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. Are you're going to

1158
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 3: have sleepovers again?

1159
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: Not if you have sex and that that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: What if we do it really quiet the night?

1161
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Speaker 2: We have a quiet sex all the time we were

1162
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: kids upstairs have quiet sex because the kids and because

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Speaker 2: Ash we have.

1164
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Speaker 1: Quite sex all the time too.

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Speaker 4: It's probably because she's not enjoying it.

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Speaker 3: I feel so sorry, but April Times, we love you,

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Speaker 3: April ra I love you. Have youthday.

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Speaker 2: If you've enjoyed this episode, don't be quiet, be vocal.

1169
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: Let us know. Give us a review, maybe five stars.

1170
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Speaker 3: It has been an absolute pleasure. Also from one podcast

1171
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 3: to another. I'm very proud of you. Guys, you're doing

1172
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: such good work.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mom. Yeah, I know you really are.

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Speaker 1: You really are, Mummy.

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Speaker 2: Tell that to everyone, like I'm so proud of them.

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Speaker 3: You should be too, so proud of you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for the first time.

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Speaker 2: See that? Can you can you write that on Apple

1179
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: podcast review.

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Speaker 1: Laura Laura five stars Laura from Go and check the reviews.

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Speaker 3: Okay, these guys clearly can't end their own podcasts, So

1182
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 3: if you've enjoyed the episode, jump onto Apple Podcasts, leave

1183
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: a review. Also, get onto Spotify, follow us there or

1184
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: at two earning dads on Instagram. You know, yeah, you

1185
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 3: can follow there as well. Jam Pikelets, Maddie j No,

1186
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: you're Matthew, David Johnson, whatever, go and follow on all

1187
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: the Instagram. Tell your mom, tell your dad, tell your

1188
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: dog to your friends, and share the love because love love.

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Speaker 2: We'll see next week.

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Speaker 3: Bye everyone, Thanks for having.

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Speaker 2: Two doting Dance podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

1192
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Speaker 2: throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community.

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Speaker 4: We pay our respects to their elders past and present,

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Speaker 4: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and torrestrate Islander

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Speaker 4: peoples Today.

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Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on gadagle Land