1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf on Mixed one oh four 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: point nine thanks to Joyce Main Darwin joining us live 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: in the studio is the Lord Mayor of Darwin convat Scarlets. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Katy, and what a wonderful day. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: I think the drive is about to come. And I 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: was just on the radio the guys down south who 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: left Darwin to live down south, winding about how coal 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: it is. 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Wow, sweet revenge, Yeah exactly, don't worry about them, just yeah, 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: let's stay here. 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: It's lovely at the moment. 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Although it was pretty hot yesterday IVO, but we don't 13 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: need to talk about that. 14 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Will just cons it's going to get cooler. 15 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 4: It's snoring in Victoria exactly. 16 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: One's point three degrees in in Canberra. 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 4: You can have it. 18 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: You can have it. That's right. 19 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: And now Corn, I've got quite a bit. I want 20 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: to get through with you today. I want to ask 21 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: you for ten minutes, yep. I want to ask you 22 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: firstly about these Karama laneway closures. What was that decision made? 23 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Was a bit about this anti social behavior? 24 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: Residents asked US counsel to consider closing them because of 25 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: un social behavior, and put it bluntly, They were designed 26 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: in the sixties and seventies where people do not have cars. 27 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: They want to go from point one to point B 28 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: to buy food, to buy things. 29 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: Now they become an escape route for people that commit crimes, 30 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: and I've heard that one from residents. 31 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 4: I heard that from the police. 32 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: So if there is a problem, if they become a 33 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: focus over the social behavior and the residents come to us, 34 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: we investigate, We talk to the residents, we consult, and 35 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: if we find out that the complaint is justified, we 36 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: close them down and actually convenient apologize for that for 37 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: people that they use them. But at the same time 38 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: you have to think what the people next to them 39 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: have to put up with, with screaming youth, with people 40 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 2: running around, jumping fences and everything. 41 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: How many line wise are there and when you look 42 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: at closing others, to. 43 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: Tell you the truth, air Katy, I don't know, but 44 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: there are a lot. I remember as a member for 45 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: night for a casurina, I closed quite a bit. But 46 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: while we did, we close them seven o'clock at night 47 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: and we open six o'clock in the morning. It is costly, 48 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: but at the same time we can convenience people that 49 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: don't have a bus a car and they want to 50 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: catch the bus, but at the same time closing them at. 51 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: Night or put lights. It resolved a lot of the. 52 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Issues now con We caught up with Nia Kids, the 53 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: local member for Karama last week. She said that they 54 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: have been inundated with hundreds upon hundreds of visitors to 55 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: that electorates. We know that it's not the only electorate 56 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: and we also caught up with Robert Cooper from Larikie 57 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Nation about this. 58 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: But what impact is. 59 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Are these visitors having on council services and issues for 60 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: council i e. Having to clean up those parks and 61 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: things like that. 62 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: Well, give you an example, we had photographs from Karama 63 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: Park that they're actually full of lita. This park is 64 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: supposed to be used by children in the area by 65 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: the at the moment, they're used by people who come 66 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: from communities and camp here. 67 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 4: And as you saw in the newspaper. 68 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: Last week, there were a lot of people here cast 69 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: up either by their government allowances or because they've got 70 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: the royalties and they decided they're going to die when 71 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: a party time and that has to do it. Because 72 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: communities they're not a place to spend your money. First 73 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: of all, there's nothing there to buy or they're very 74 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: The other thing is a lot of people decided they 75 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: will come to down to visit friends and then they 76 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 2: get stuck here because here you can buy alcohol. Some 77 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: communities are not allowed to others you can. And we 78 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: argue many times with the federal government to allow controlled 79 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: clubs and communities. 80 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 81 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we've got a very step fight approach by the 82 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: federal government refusing to be considerable. 83 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: The Chief Minister and also the Minister for Health have 84 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: said to us that this is something that is going 85 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: to be getting relooked at with the federal government later 86 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: in the year. 87 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: So let's wait and see what happens there. 88 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: But just on the council services are you finding at 89 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the moment, I mean, are you having to put on 90 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: additional cleaning services or are you having to put on 91 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: additional services in some of those suburb services? 92 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: Seven dare's a week? Okay, we clean up the place. 93 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: Seven there's a week, And I still get to complaints 94 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: through messenger even on Sunday. That the places where they 95 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: are and they're always the same spots, amazing close to 96 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: places where they offer free breakfast and lunch, which is 97 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: a great idea to feeding the people. At the same 98 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: time should be consideration about the problems you're creating in 99 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: your neighborhood. We've got problems are studr Park, We've got 100 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: problems in this point. 101 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: We've got problems in Nightcliff because you're in. 102 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: Of course, the reserve is responsibility of the government, so 103 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: I can't tell you that. But we've got problems in 104 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: little parks, let's say in Karama, especially near liquor stores, 105 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: where there's liquor outlets, there will be problems. 106 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: I did want to ask you about that con because 107 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: we caught up with the Chief Minister, Michael Gunna yesterday 108 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: and spoke about drinking in public. Take a listen. Is 109 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: it legal to drink in public? It depends where so. 110 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: For example, I suppose just on that example in Karama, 111 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: where there are people drinking at the playground there at 112 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the kids playground in the early hours of the morning, is. 113 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 5: That legal you can't drink within two kilometers of a 114 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 5: liquor license. I presume that spot will be outside of 115 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 5: that and please have the power then to do tip 116 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 5: out a number of things depending on where you are drinking. 117 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: But as it. 118 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: Currently sits in in so if there is somebody, if 119 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: there's people drinking in public and they're further away than 120 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: two kilometers from a license premises, then that's actually okay. 121 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: There's a large number of areas in down where that 122 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 5: the two k law as it covers most of most 123 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 5: of most of downars, but the same without knowing the 124 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 5: exact part, there's a there's a small chance, but it's 125 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 5: highly unlikely that's a legal spot. 126 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: Corn, is that you're understanding. 127 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a bit surprised and confused here because we're 128 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: clearly were taught by the police that the two kilom 129 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: the law was revoked under the when they actually had 130 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: their look at the licensing provisions of the legislation. Now 131 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: the Chief Minister say that two kilum the law applies, 132 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: So I think, if it's true, you better tell his police. 133 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: If it's not true, somebody's advice the Chief Minister, actually 134 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: that thing is revoked. But I'll go back and hear 135 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: a look at it, because if this is the case, 136 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: I'll be asked for the policeman force it. But if 137 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: it's not the case, then there's nothing the police can 138 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 2: do about. 139 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my understanding, is I thought that the 140 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: police were really in a situation here where if people. 141 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: Would they don't remember very well and our call very 142 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: well that the police told us they were not enforcing 143 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: because it is not a legislation anymore. 144 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: Con How big an issue though, is this having? 145 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: Is that public drinking having not only on our suburbs 146 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: but around the city and other locations as well. Again, 147 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: you and I have spoken about this on numerous occasions, Kate. 148 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: There is a problem. I mean, let's be frunk about it. 149 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: There is a problem. People are coming here and they 150 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: get stuck into alcohol. I don't know how they get it, 151 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: because yesterday when I went to look at outlet, there 152 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: was a sign up there to say if you don't 153 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: have you're not the result of DOWBT. When you have 154 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: to tell us a valid address where you're going to 155 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: consume alcohol. East Point is not a valid address. The 156 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: Karma Park is not a valid address. How did these 157 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: people get alcohol? Where they get the alcohol? The second 158 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: supply is alive and well, now I understand the BDR 159 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: and the effect it's got. 160 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: And it's a good intention. 161 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: But if you've got a system there that can check 162 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: your card, why this system can't check if somebody turns 163 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: up every week or every day and buy twelve bucks 164 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: of wine. Obviously there's a problem, and that will allow 165 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: the police investigative there's a second supply this. Somebody will 166 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: come and says, oh about the privacy reason. I don't 167 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: give a hood about the privacy reason. We're talking about 168 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: people committing crimes and serial crimes, not only disturbing the community, 169 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: but praying on people they've got an alcohol addiction. Privacy 170 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: should not be a problem. There should be revoked, should 171 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: be looked into it and remove this, you know, legislative 172 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: obstacles that we always had behind it's a privacy issue. No, 173 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: this is a second supply of alcohol. You can probably 174 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: twig your system to identify the people actually they commit 175 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: a crime. 176 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: Con let's move along. I do want to ask you. 177 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: I know that the dow And City Council have got 178 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars going into social initiatives. 179 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: Is that correct? And what? 180 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely? We look? 181 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: Everybody complains about young kids, and yes there is a problem. 182 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: Most the kids are behaving them. 183 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: Everybody's complaint about the problem with kids. 184 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: So we decided, well, okay, instead of complaining, what are 185 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: we going to do about it? 186 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: We have to do something about it. So what we 187 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: decide to do. 188 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: We decide to put one hundred thousand dollars to different 189 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: programs that will attract young kids, other through cultural events, 190 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: through artistic projects, to actually do something about it. If 191 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 2: we can engage these young people and take them away 192 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: from the streets, that's a big cluss. And I'm telling 193 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: you now, this is the first announcement I want to 194 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: make part of my election manifesto, will be using our 195 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: libraries to address the issue of the young. 196 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: Children were in state programs. 197 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: We want to get the young kids in our libraries 198 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: or facilities where we actually help them to learn to read, 199 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: to write, helping with them homework, provide activities, teach them 200 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: how to use a tablet, tease how to use a computer, 201 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: to get them out of the streets, to get them 202 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: into some way that actually have a structured program in 203 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: their lives. Most of these kids, they're roaming the streets 204 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: because they don't have a family to go to these 205 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: structural families, and some kids they feel actually safer outside 206 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: the house than inside the house. So I'm telling you now, 207 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: if I'll be relected again, We'll make sure that I 208 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: put the program in place to engage these young people 209 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: through our existing problem programs that they do fantastic jobs, 210 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: through our libraries and open get the kids out of 211 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: the streets, get them somewhere they can feel safe, and 212 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: teach them something to do, teach them to do something 213 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: with their lives. 214 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: Can I just ask you very quickly. 215 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: I know that it is Youth Week at the moment, 216 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: and the Council's got quite a few activities on as well, 217 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: don't you absolutely? 218 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: When's the fourteenth of April, which is actually tomorrow from 219 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: five thirty seven o'clock free skating ice skating party with 220 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: music and games again from six to eight pm. 221 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: Skate Night at Gingly Water Garden Skate. 222 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: Park for twelve years plus on Saturday at seventeenth of 223 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: April from one pm to five pm. Gek Tacular Meetup, cosplay, games, 224 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: digital art and more at Casuarina Library on Sunday from 225 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: six to seven pm City Live Platform, Light Box Exhibition. 226 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: So we've got a lot of things until next week. 227 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: And the next week we have of course finishing It's 228 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: cut surfing at the Civic Park from ten thirty am 229 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: to three pm. 230 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 4: You know, the years on stuff. The kids get together 231 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 4: let's do something about kids. I'm not going to WinCE 232 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 4: about it, all right. 233 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: They'll do the wrong things, some of them, As you said, 234 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: how can we get them out of the wrong things 235 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: that make them do the right thing? 236 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 4: We can be part of it, and we will be 237 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: part of it. 238 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Combat Scolus, the Lord Mayor of Dawin. Always good to 239 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: catch up. Thanks so much for your time, My pleasure, 240 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Katie