1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by our partners at 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Workplace Law. Welcome to The Female Athlete Project Season two. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: My name is Chloe Dalton. I'm an Olympic gold medalist 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: in rugby sevens and I'm now playing for the GWS 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Giants in the AFLW. I started TFAT to share the 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: stories of incredible female athletes and to address the gender 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: inequalities that exist. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Within the sports media space. 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: We want to change that story and we're all about 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: making news and highlights of women's sport easily accessible across 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: our platforms. Our hope is that more female athletes will 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: become household names and in turn enable the next generation 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: of young kids to pick up a ball, racket, bat board, 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: whatever they want to pick. Rebecca Stott was born in 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: New Zealand, where she spent the first eleven years of 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: her life before moving across the Ditch to Australia. She 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: grew up passionate about sport and showed serious talent on 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: the soccer field from a young age. She captained the 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Green and Gold as a junior footballer before switching allegiances 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: and committing to the country of her birth. Scott has 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: represented the Football ferns eighty one times, been to two 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: World Cups, two Olympic Games, and traveled the world, plying 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: her trade in Australia's A League, in Germany, the United States, 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Norway and most recently England. Off the field, stott faced 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: what could be described as her greatest challenge early in 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. In February, Stoddy was diagnosed with stage 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: three Hodgkins lymphoma. As a fit and healthy twenty seven. 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 2: Year old elite athlete, she. 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Was used to facing many physical and mental challenges, but 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: nothing could prepare her for her cancer battle. After an 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: aggressive chemotherapy treatment program, she was given the amazing news 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: in July that she was in remission. Stotty took part 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: in the world's Greatest shave and has launched a project 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: called Beat It by Scotty, which aims to provide a 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: modern cancer pack, a bag with specific compartments and items 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: to support fellow patients through their cancer journey. She got 37 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: back on the pitch for Melbourne City at the start 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: of this month. It was three hundred and forty eight 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: days since a last am of football and two hundred 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: and ninety four days into cancer. 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Diagnosis was confirmed. 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: Stoddie wants to raise awareness for blood cancer, to support 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: others going through their own battle, and use her story 44 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: to help inspire as many people as possible. She's a 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: bloody legend and I really hope you enjoyed this episode 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: as much as I did. Rebecca Stott, Welcome to the 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: Female Athlete Project. 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on. I'm so 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 3: happy to be here. 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to having a chat. Can you 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: tell us to start off a little bit about your 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: first game back in the now the A League w 53 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Is that right that they've rebranded A League Women? 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: I think A League Women? 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a little bit. Can you tell us 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: about your first game back against Canberra over the weekend. 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing to be back on the field again. 58 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: I got sixty minutes in my legs, which was good, 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: better than I expected, and we won. So it's always 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: hard to win away at Canberra with their crowd, but no, 61 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: it was so nice to be back on the field 62 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: with the girls. We often start these intros by heading 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: back and looking at people's childhood and kind of a 64 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: little bit about how you grew up, So can you 65 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 4: tell us about growing up over in New Zealand and 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: how you kind of first found soccer. I was I 67 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 4: think four years old when I started playing soccer. So 68 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: I have four brothers and I'm the only girl in 69 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: the family, so I think it was just given that 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: I was going to be a little tomboy and sports person. 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, I just went along with them and found 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: that I was actually really good at it. 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: So yeah. I mean I love being outside as a 74 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: young little kid and just playing in the. 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: Streets and doing whatever, So I think, yeah, it was 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: a good childhood I had. 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: New Zealand often known for the love of rugby. How 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: was it that you came to soccer? Or do you 79 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: call it soccer or football? Where do you see it 80 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: with that? 81 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: Oh? Technically first to call it football? 82 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: Now it depends who you're talking to, though, because okay, 83 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: there's so many footballs here, isn't there? 84 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: Yes? 85 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So how was it you came to find football? 86 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 4: I mean I followed the All Blacks when I was younger. 87 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 4: I would always watch them with my dad. I'd be like, oh, 88 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: come on, little Blacks. But yeah, I don't know. It 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: just naturally happened that we were into soccer instead of rugby, 90 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: and I don't. I don't think there was a lot 91 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: of like girls rugby teams out there when I was little. 92 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: It wasn't really an option, I don't think so. I 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 4: think it was, yeah, the fact that there was no opportunities. 94 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: Then I was forced to go into soccer. 95 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: And I read in an article that for you, you 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: didn't even even in soccer. You didn't really have role 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: models that you could see from New Zealand Australia that 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: you could look up to. At that point, was it 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: you almost wanted to represent USA and China? 100 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: Is that right? 101 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 102 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: I mean there wasn't any real attention on football players, 103 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: like female football players in New Zealand or Australia, and 104 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 4: so I mean I looked up to people like Marta 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 4: and just some great players from the USA. And so 106 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: when I was in I think primary school, I had 107 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: to do a speech and I said, oh, when I'm older, 108 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: I want to play for the USA or China because 109 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: they're like the vest season in the world. Little did 110 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: I know I couldn't do that, but yeah. 111 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: And then when you were eleven years old, you guys 112 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: moved over to Australia. How has that moved to a 113 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: completely new country? As a little kid. 114 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Mum and dad went for a holiday 115 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 4: to visit Dad's brother and it was on the sunny coast, 116 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: so they obviously fell in love with the place and 117 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: they came back and they're like, we're moving. 118 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: And I was like, no, and I want to move. 119 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: And then literally like a couple of weeks later, we 120 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: were on a plane moving across to Australia, which was 121 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 4: it was wild. And then I think I went into 122 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 4: my last year of primary school here, so that was 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 4: that was tough to go into a brand new school 124 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 4: and then have to go to a whole new school 125 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 4: the year after. 126 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: But I mean Australia is great. It's given me a 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: lot of opportunities. 128 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean it's been so cool to be 129 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: able to come from two separate countries and really have 130 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 4: a lot of love for both. 131 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 132 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really special. 133 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: So at that point when you'd moved over, were you 134 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: already starting to get serious about soccer? 135 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: I mean I would be playing pretty much every day 136 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: training and yeah, different different types of training like Brazilian 137 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: soccer and just club. 138 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: Training and everything. 139 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, ever since I was little, it 140 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 4: was always this is going to be my job. 141 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 3: I'm going to do this forever. 142 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 4: And then yeah, when I got to Australia, it was 143 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 4: kind of like reps and then can I get into 144 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: good programs? 145 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: And I think by the time I was fourteen, I. 146 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: Was in the QAS in Queensland and that was five 147 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: nights a week training down in Brisbane. So I mean 148 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: my parents are driving an hour and a half to 149 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: two hours each way to get me to training every 150 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: night of the week. 151 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: So it was pretty full on after that. 152 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, do you when you reflect on that stuff, 153 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: because I often now that I'm an adult, you kind 154 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: of realize what a commitment that is from your parents. 155 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: Is that something like with age and a bit more perspective. 156 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: You've been super grateful for the contribution they've made. 157 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 158 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: I think if they didn't do that, then I don't 159 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: think i'd be where I am today, Like I wasn't 160 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: in that program if they weren't driving me every night. Like, 161 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: I'm so grateful because it's allowed me to really become 162 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: the player that I am right now. 163 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: I think that's really cool. 164 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: So your W League, it was called W League at 165 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: the time when you were eighteen years old, is that right. Yeah, 166 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: how did that feel to have your first crack at 167 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: a professional soccer. 168 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing. 169 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: I think I moved down to Melbourne played for the victory. 170 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so cool. 171 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 4: I had a few friends from the youth national teams 172 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: and I absolutely loved it. I was like, oh, this 173 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 4: is amazing, Like I literally get to get to play 174 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: football or soccer for a living. Well back then it 175 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 4: was like one hundred bucks a game or something, so 176 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 4: I mean it just shows how far it's come. But 177 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: I was still like, oh, I actually get paid for this. 178 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: This is so cool. 179 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was. 180 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: It was sick and then ever since then, I'm like, yeah, 181 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: this is what I'm doing. 182 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: And so when you're coming through your youth years, you're 183 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: representing Australia and then at the senior level you represented 184 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: New Zealand. Can you talk us through that decision and 185 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: that did you have a feeling of being torn between 186 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: the two countries. 187 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 188 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 4: So I played for the under seventeen then under twenty 189 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 4: Australian youth teams and I had such a great time there, 190 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: and then I guess the opportunity came up to go 191 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: trial in New Zealand for the senior team, and I 192 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: think I was I might have been eighteen at this time, 193 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: and I was like. 194 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: Wow, this is such a good opportunity. 195 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: And they were going to the Olympics later that year, 196 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: so I was like, you know what, if I work hard, 197 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: if I show I can, I can get to those Olympics. 198 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: And sure enough I did. I went over. I loved it. 199 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: I loved the girls, and yeah, I went to the Olympics. 200 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: Then the rest is history. 201 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: Have been there for ages and I absolutely love playing 202 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: for the Ferns. 203 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 204 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: I love it. How casual that was, Like, yeah, I 205 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: went and then I went to the Olympics. 206 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: How good? It amazing. 207 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: Can you tell us a bit about your experience at 208 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: your very first Olympics. Was it something that you'd dreamt 209 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: about since you're a little kid. 210 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think that was like one of the 211 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: biggest goals in my mind was if I'm an Olympian, 212 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 4: I've made it. 213 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: Like whatever happens, I've made it. 214 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: I mean it was. It was such an amazing experience. 215 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: I think London was. It was incredible. It was so 216 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: organized and everything and I've got two good stories from there. Actually, 217 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 4: oh please please played sting pong with Namer. 218 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: Do you know Nama? Yes, yeah, so that's my claim 219 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: to fame. Amazing. 220 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: And then yeah, I got a sneaky kiss off Russell 221 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: Brand at the closing ceremony, who was performing. And then 222 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: after a little finished, he was like just walking off 223 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, Russell, can I have a kiss? 224 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: He gave me a kiss on the cheek. 225 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, a little like nineteen year old. 226 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: Amazing, very very cool. 227 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: And then how did that shift then to head to 228 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: your second Olympics over in Rio? 229 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: What was it like? 230 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Did you feel like you had grown up a little 231 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: bit more, had a bit more perspective by the time 232 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: you got over there. 233 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was a very different experience for me. London. 234 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 4: I wasn't playing, so I was a bench player, which 235 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: was fine. I was so young, so I got to 236 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: really enjoy being there. But Rio was a lot different. 237 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: I was just coming back from an injury, a stress fracture, 238 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: so I didn't really get to enjoy it as much. However, 239 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: I was playing, and I mean that was it was 240 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: still an amazing experience. 241 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: We had a really tough group, but yeah, it was 242 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: it was a hard one to be honest. 243 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: But but I'm so thankful to be there, Like, it's 244 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: still incredible. 245 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm interested about this transition from sitting on the bench 246 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: to kind of earning a solid spot in the starting 247 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: line up. What was it for you, like physically or 248 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: mentally that you felt kind of got you to the 249 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: point to earn your spot. 250 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: I think just experience. I hadn't played a lot. I 251 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: had kind of just I was very like new in 252 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: the team, and then I think I was just able 253 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: to prove myself and really buy it for a spot 254 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: and earn it by my performances, and then obviously the 255 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: coach believing in me to really step up and get 256 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: a starting position. 257 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: You've had a pretty amazing career in terms of where 258 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: you've been able to travel and play. You've had played 259 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: in Germany, US, Norway and most recently England. Is that 260 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: right if i'd tick them all off? Yeah? What do 261 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: you think that's taught you? Being so far away from home? 262 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: What have you learned through? I guess those experiences being overseas. 263 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: I think I've got a lot of independence and yeah, 264 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: just I guess learning to deal with things by myself. 265 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: But also it's taught me to lean on people in 266 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 4: terms of supporting like your family and friends, Like no 267 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: matter where you are in the world, you've always got 268 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: them just on the other end of the phone. So 269 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, really making sure that I had a 270 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: really good support network and keeping them close. And so 271 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 4: in June of last year, was it, before you were 272 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 4: about to head back over to England, you noticed a 273 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 4: lump near your collar bone. Can you tell us a 274 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: little bit about when you first noticed that. Yeah, it 275 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 4: was actually I think it was October the year before 276 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: I saw Okay, I first was like, what's the It 277 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: was weird, and it kind of went away. I didn't 278 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 4: think anything of it. And then June I was in 279 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: lockdown here in Melbourne and I kind of felt something 280 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: and I was like, have I done a weird push 281 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: up or something and just pulled a muscle or whatever? 282 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: And so I went and got it checked out and 283 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: at a. 284 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: Biopsy, which showed nothing really crazy. 285 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: They weren't really sure what it was, but the doctor 286 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: was pretty much like, ah, if it grows, then go. 287 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 3: Get it checked again. But it's it should be fine. 288 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: So yeah, and then I headed over to England and 289 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: then started growing again. 290 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: And what so then it started growing and what was 291 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of the next steps from there. 292 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so once it got pretty big, it was like yeah, 293 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: decent size, like you can tell that something's not right. 294 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 4: Then I tried to get into the doctors to see 295 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: there in England, which was a process in itself, like 296 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: I had to register for the for the actual what 297 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: do you clinic, then get to see a doctor, and 298 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: then I had to go get a biopsy. 299 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: And everything kind of had a month in between it. 300 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: So then I got a biopsy, then I had to 301 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: go see the specialist where I thought I was finding 302 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: out the results, and then they're like, oh, it's actually inconclusive. 303 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: We're sending it off for further tests. 304 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: And then they'd wait another month and then they were 305 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: like So I would work myself up going into these 306 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: appointments thinking yeah, I'm going to find out what's wrong, 307 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: and then again to not know and then they say, 308 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 4: actually we're going to send you to surgery for them 309 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: to actually take a bit of be sure. 310 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: That's why I've got this lovely scar. Wow. 311 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 4: And so they took it out and then sent it 312 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: off for tests and then obviously I'm waiting for the 313 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: phone call to kind of tell me what it is. 314 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 4: And then again it's oh, we're not one hundred percent sure, 315 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: but we're going to send it off for more tests. 316 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh my gosh, just tell me, do 317 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: you think it's this? 318 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: And they were like, we're pretty sure it's lymphoma, we're 319 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: just not sure what type and where. And so once 320 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: I heard that, I was like, get me on a plane. 321 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: I'm going home. And so then yeah, I was in 322 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: quarantine here when I got the final results that it 323 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: was Hodgkins on the phonemak. 324 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was the process. It was. 325 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: It was pretty frustrating, and that was probably one of 326 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: the hardest things, was just not knowing what exactly it was. 327 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: How was it like sitting in that feeling of constantly 328 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: waiting and the fear, Like the fear of the unknown 329 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: is so scary, right because you're just like. 330 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: Having in your head like what is it going to be? 331 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? How is that a feeling? 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: It was really hard because like you know, if something's 333 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: not right you physically. I felt fine, I felt all good. 334 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: It was just there's a massive lump on my neck, 335 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: and so I don't know, like knowing I couldn't do 336 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: anything to hurry up the process and just literally been 337 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: in the hands of the testing people or whatever it was. 338 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: It was really hard, and I think once I did 339 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: get the final results, I was just like, at least 340 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: I know now, Like it was kind of relief, like 341 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: I know what it is now I can go and 342 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: fix it. 343 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: And so you were in hotel quarantine when you finally 344 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: got the official results. 345 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 346 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so were you in a hotel room on 347 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: your own trying to process this information. 348 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: I had my friend there, which was good. Okay, so 349 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 4: at least I had someone with me, which was good. 350 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 4: I mean I was one hundred percent sure that I 351 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 4: had cancer at that stage. I had talked to the 352 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: oncologists in Peter mack here in Melbourne, and they were 353 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 4: actually really good. They put me at these they were like, Okay, 354 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: this is fine, you're an athlete, You're going to get 355 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 4: through this, no worries. So I think talking to them 356 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: also helped, and they were Yeah, they were just extremely helpful, 357 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 4: and they just gave me a bit of clarity and 358 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: just sensive comfort that they were going to look after 359 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: me and I'd be absolutely fine. 360 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 361 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 362 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: So coming out of hotel quarantine, what were the next 363 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: steps from there in terms of treatment. 364 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: Actually, one question they asked me when I was in 365 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 4: hotel quarantine because I did like a tallyhealth and they 366 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 4: were like, oh, do you want to have babies? I 367 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: was like, what, I got cancer, what are you talking 368 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: about babies for? And so once I got out, I 369 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: had to go start with IVF, so just in case 370 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 4: if I lost my fertility during treatment, that I would 371 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: have that option. 372 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: So I started IVF and did a whole cycle of that. 373 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: I luckily had really good results and I got to 374 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: freeze twenty seven eggs. 375 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: Wow. 376 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: And then after I had finished that, that's when I 377 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 4: started with the chemo, which was about four months long. 378 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I left that far out. 379 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: And what does a typical day look like when you 380 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: have to hit in and have your chemo treatment? 381 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 3: So I would have a twenty one day cycle. 382 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 4: So the first week it would be three days in well, 383 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: not hospital, but like I would go in for the 384 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 4: day one, I'd get three different types of chemo. 385 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 3: That was my hardest day. 386 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 4: It would be five to six hours sitting there and 387 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 4: you get different types and then yeah, I'd feel pretty 388 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 4: quick after that one, especially the last drug that would 389 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: go in you'd get this massive hold head cold across 390 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: the front of your head and just was not fun. 391 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: Like you'd feel so sick after that one, and then 392 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 4: pretty much get home and just sleep all night. Like 393 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: I mean the first the first cycle, I was extremely 394 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: sick that night. Once I got home, I tried, I 395 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: felt okay, and I tried to eat them host ten 396 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: minutes later I just went white and I was like, nah, 397 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 4: I need to go throw up. 398 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: And then that was not fun. Yeah, not good. 399 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 4: And then the next day I had to go back 400 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 4: in to get more. But that one was like an 401 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: hour or two, so it's just a fifteen minute two 402 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: different times, which was okay. I felt a lot better 403 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: that day, and then third day the same thing. Then 404 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 4: you have a few days off, and then the next 405 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 4: week on Tuesday, you come back in. 406 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: And then you're pretty much that's it. 407 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: So four days in and then you wait until you're 408 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: twenty one day is up and then you start again. 409 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's pretty crazy. They told me that the 410 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 4: third week would be my better week, but it was 411 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: definitely not. 412 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 3: That's when. 413 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: It's weird because you're not in the hospital at all, 414 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 4: you don't you don't have any appointments or anything. 415 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: It's just your levels. 416 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 4: Your body is so shook and you're right down here, 417 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 4: and then you. 418 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: Just you just feel like absolutely crap. 419 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 420 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: And I've heard you describe hodge chicken slimphoma as kind 421 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: of like the good cancer because it's treatable, and you 422 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: obviously had incredible support through petermac and things like that. 423 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: So even though you had that confidence from that end, 424 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: was there, like did you have moments where you're fearful 425 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: and kind of questioned whether it was working or it 426 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: was going to work? 427 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 428 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: I mean I think everyone's going to question that and 429 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: be like, oh, what if it doesn't actually help me. 430 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: I think there was a time where my lump wasn't 431 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 4: going down and. 432 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: I was like, uh, like is it working? 433 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 4: And I think I had a pet scan after my 434 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: second cycle and I was like waiting for those results 435 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: to see if it had kind of like made a difference, 436 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 4: and I was just like, I just felt like it's. 437 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: Not going to have worked. 438 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: And so that those moments were really scary for me, 439 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: just not knowing if I was getting better. And then 440 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: I got the results and they said like it's actually 441 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: really working, Like there's not much left, which was a 442 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: big relief. 443 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely scary moments for sure. 444 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: Now for a quick half time break. 445 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: Workplace Law is a law firm focused on supporting and 446 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: empowering for athletes to take control of their careers. 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Will be able to 456 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: do any much exercise while you're going through your treatment? 457 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: Not really. I think it's different for everyone. 458 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: They say, like, some people can jog and still do stuff, 459 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 4: but I couldn't. They say that keep your heart rate 460 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: below one sixty and walking around the block, I would 461 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: be dizzy. 462 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: And if I tried to walk upstairs. 463 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: My heart rate would shoot up to one sixty one 464 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 4: seventy and I was like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. 465 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 4: I think going from like being an athlete to being 466 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 4: able to keep your heart rate really high and then 467 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: working hard and then been walking and your heart rates high, 468 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: it's like whoa, Like, how am I ever going to 469 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: get back to being okay? 470 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 471 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: How did that feel? 472 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: Because as an athlete, it's always about like the work 473 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: that you've put in enables your body to perform and 474 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: do all these things and have fitness, and then something's 475 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: thrown at you where you don't have any control over 476 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: being able to like alter your body. 477 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: How did that feel? 478 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: It was really hard. I don't know. 479 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 4: I feel like I've always thought, oh, my body's amazing, 480 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 4: like it's it's got me through everything. But then to 481 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 4: go from that to literally struggling to go for a 482 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 4: walk around the block was it was really hard. 483 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: I was like, what is wrong with me? 484 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: Like obviously there's a lot wrong with me, but. 485 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 486 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: It was so hard. 487 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 4: Even like after I was finished with treatment, trying to 488 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 4: get back to an okay level, I would still walk 489 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: and shoot up, and it's just like, oh my gosh, 490 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 4: how am I ever going to get back? 491 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: This is crazy? 492 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's just trusting the process and 493 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: giving it time that's really helped me. 494 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: I read one of your blogs about your zoom call 495 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: when you found out that you were in remission. Can 496 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: you can you talk to that call a little bit 497 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: and how that felt. 498 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing. 499 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: I was pretty certain that I was going to be 500 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: in remssion just from previous meetings and stuff. But he's like, yeah, no, 501 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 4: you're you're in complete remission. He's pretty casual, my doctor. 502 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: He's pretty funny. And I was like, oh my gosh, 503 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: this is the best news. I was so happy. It's 504 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: just like this is over, even though it's not really over, 505 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 4: but it's like, at least now my body is healed. 506 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: I don't have any cancer left, Like I'm fine, I'm good. 507 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 4: It was just so much relief. 508 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's huge news. 509 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: And then I wanted to read a quote of something 510 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: you wrote. I think it was your following blog post 511 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: about kind of getting back to normal life after that. 512 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: You said it's hard to return to normal life. And 513 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: once you're in your remission, I feel as though, not 514 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: only do others expect you to be fine, but you 515 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on yourself to be too. 516 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: I think the best way to describe it is being 517 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: stuck in a hole, and while it takes some time 518 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: to return to normality, you can dig yourself deeper into 519 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: that hole bay putting pressure on yourself. That's like an 520 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: incredible way to articulate that feeling. How did you kind 521 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: of process that and eventually get yourself out of that 522 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: hole without putting pressure on yourself to be okay and 523 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: to feel good all the time. 524 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like I wasn't expecting that time to 525 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: be hard and as hard as it was, Like I 526 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 4: really struggled through those months after being in a remission, 527 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: like I don't know, your brain doesn't work. Like I 528 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: can be talking to someone and then I totally lose 529 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: the focus of what I was talking about and then 530 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 4: I'm like what. 531 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: And So to really. 532 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 4: Get myself out, I think I just had to be like, well, 533 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: you know what, this is going to be hard. I've 534 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: just got to be patient. I've just gotta not put 535 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 4: too much things on in my day. I just need 536 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 4: to focus on myself and just really be patient. And 537 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: I had a lot of help from PFA and my 538 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 4: friends and family, Like the support has been unreal, But yeah, 539 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 4: I think it's just all about patience and just being 540 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 4: kind to yourself. 541 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: I guess i'd love to chat about your return to training. 542 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: How did that go? So kind of that process to 543 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: prepare yourself to play soccer again. 544 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was really hard. 545 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: I would run, I would try do jim, I would 546 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: I would do all the stuff, and I'm just like, 547 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, this is so hard. And so I 548 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 4: went to see my doctor and an exercise physiologist, and 549 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: he really helped me put a program in place where 550 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 4: I would build up my heart rate but not not 551 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 4: take it too far and kind of get some shorter 552 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 4: intense stuff going. So I was like week one, I 553 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 4: couldn't get it over one sixty my heart rate, and 554 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: then the next week I could go one seventy, then 555 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 4: one eight, and then once I like got to one 556 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: ninety or whatever, I was like free to go. But 557 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: it was it was really hard because obviously my whole 558 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: body has not done anything for a long time now, 559 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 4: and so I had no muscle, I had no fitness, 560 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: no nothing. So it was it was really hard to 561 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: try and be patient with but then also know that 562 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 4: I need to get back, I need to get fit. 563 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: I need to get stronger. But yeah, I mean once I. 564 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 4: Got into training at Melbourne City it was a bit easier. 565 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 4: But I mean each week it's like, oh now my 566 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 4: calf's pulling up. Now my other ones go on, and 567 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 4: now my hamstring. Like each week it's something new, and 568 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 4: I'm just like, this is so annoying. But I think 569 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: it's kind of showing me the importance of JIM. I 570 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 4: don't really like Jim, so I often take it quite easier. 571 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 4: But now I'm like, I really need to get in 572 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 4: there and it's actually going to help me. So I 573 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 4: think the fact that I know it's going to help me, 574 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay. 575 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: I gotta do it. But it's been a struggle, that's 576 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: for sure. 577 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: Did you struggle to balance between like wanting to push 578 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: yourself but then having to recognize that your body just 579 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: wasn't ready for some things yet? 580 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like I was trying not to push 581 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 4: myself too much because I knew that my body different. 582 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: Now it takes me a lot longer to recover. 583 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: From things, Like say, beforehand, it would take me one 584 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: or two days to recover from a game. Now it 585 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 4: takes me a good three four days and I'm like, 586 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: I think it's shown me that I need to really 587 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 4: be careful and need to recover right. I need to 588 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: be doing all the right things that I can possibly 589 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: do to make sure that my body can recover and 590 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: put me in the best position to keep training and 591 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: to keep playing. 592 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: And how have Melbourne been just in terms of adapting 593 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: that to allow you to kind of have a more 594 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: individualized approach to what you're doing and your return to play. 595 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been really good. 596 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: I think it's really hard because I don't think really 597 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: many people have had to deal with or manage someone 598 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: who's come back from chemotherapy. 599 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: It's very different. 600 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,719 Speaker 4: It's very rare in the kind of football world or 601 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: just athletes in general. 602 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: I talked to one of my friends who had. 603 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 4: Breast cancer in England who plays for Arsenal, and she 604 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 4: was like, one of my biggest struggles was people don't 605 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: know how to get you back from it, and so 606 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: it is hard. And I think we're both like the 607 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 4: club and myself are learning what needs to happen to 608 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 4: manage me. But they've been great, Like they're like, you 609 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: need a day off, you take a day off. 610 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: They're really really good with that. 611 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 4: So it's it's been helpful that we're on the same 612 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 4: page with that. 613 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, every week I have a question from my grandma 614 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: and from a six year old. Okay, might go the 615 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: question from Freda first six year old Freda. 616 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: Hi, Rebecca, did you wear any fun whigs when you 617 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: shaved your hair? 618 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: No? I didn't wear any funny wigs. 619 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: I did, however, when I when I had my greatest 620 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: shave party, I made every one where weird as stupid 621 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 4: wigs so that I didn't seem like the idiot shaving 622 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: my head. 623 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, it was actually really cool. Made 624 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: me more comfortable, which was which was amazing. 625 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: That's really cool. Was there one point where you had 626 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: a mullet as part of that shave? 627 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was awful. 628 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 4: I think I did like trivia and whoever got the 629 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: most like points got to choose a haircut, and so 630 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: it was my best friend, and so she chose the 631 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: mullet and I was like, you're an idiot, but it 632 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: was actually really cool. 633 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: How long did the mullet last? 634 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: For? 635 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: Ten seconds? 636 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: Oh? 637 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: Okay, it wasn't a long. 638 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: Term no, no, no, just as we were cutting it off. 639 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: Question from my granny. 640 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: Hi, Rebecca, how has the past twelve months changed your 641 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: perspective about life? 642 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: I think it's changed. 643 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 4: No, this is hard because I tried to like not 644 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 4: change too much, but I think it's definitely made me 645 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: want to really enjoy my life more in terms of 646 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: experiences and doing really just what I want to do. 647 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think just just enjoying life more. 648 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. 649 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: Moving forward, So we've got World Cup. It's going to 650 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: be on home soil both in Australia and New Zealand. 651 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: So you're a big part of that bid having played 652 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: for both countries. What does it mean to you, Like 653 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: if you look back to you as a little kid 654 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: that didn't get to see any role models from your 655 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: own country, what does it mean to have the opportunity 656 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: to play on home soil of both countries. 657 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be incredible. 658 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 4: I don't think some people realize how huge it is. 659 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: Like this is literally one of the biggest events in 660 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: the world world a World Cup. There's going to be 661 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 4: so many people coming from internationally COVID allowing, but no, Like, 662 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 4: it's going to be massive, and I think it's going 663 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 4: to show New Zealand in particular, like how big woman's 664 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: sport is getting and I think we have the Cricket 665 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 4: World Cup and the Rugby World Cup as well, and 666 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 4: so women's sport in the in the country is just 667 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: going to explode. 668 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: So it's it's going to be so massive. 669 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: What has your experience been as a female athlete heading 670 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: over to play overseas? Has there been anything in particular 671 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: that you've noticed in terms of inequalities that exist. 672 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: Definitely, Like I think every every place is different, but 673 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think we're so far behind the 674 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 4: men's game still every every place you go to you 675 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: experience that you can be in one of the best 676 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 4: leagues in the world and still you don't get anywhere 677 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: near what the guys are given in terms of the 678 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 4: environment the training grounds. I think it's come a long 679 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 4: way and a lot of clubs are doing it right 680 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 4: and they're striving to get the same to get the. 681 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: Same kind of situations as the boys. 682 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, the same environments as the boys, but yeah, they're 683 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 4: so far to go and to get to get all 684 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: the clubs up to that level. Like you've got the 685 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea all those clubs, they've got the 686 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: same facilities and everything, And I thinks as the game grows, 687 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 4: it's just going to get better and better, and most 688 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: clubs will be affiliated with the boys and it will 689 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 4: be the same standards. 690 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 3: It'll be amazing. 691 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: Do you think that it's almost lagging a little bit? 692 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: Because if you look at women's soccer on the whole, 693 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: Like if you look at how dominant the US women's 694 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: national team have been, not just on the field, but 695 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: in their ability to create change away from the field. 696 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: You look at the way Matildas have performed, the way 697 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: you guys as a country have performed in New Zealand, Like, 698 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: how do you do you think it's kind of like, 699 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: all right, guys, like time to catch up, Like women's 700 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: sport is actually making moves here and we're drawing big crowds, 701 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: getting good broadcast numbers because I think traditionally that's what 702 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: we would hear, right, Like I know for me as 703 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: a female athlete, I'm always here, like no one comes 704 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: to watch, no one watches it on TV. But the 705 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: stories change, right, Yeah, and it's kind of when's the 706 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: point you guys are going to kind of catch up 707 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: and get the ball rolling on that? 708 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I think I think people are starting to realize. 709 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 4: I don't think they're realizing fast enough. But the yeah, 710 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 4: I mean, we get the numbers in the crowds, we 711 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 4: get the views. So I think it's just businesses coming 712 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 4: to the table, federations come into the table and really 713 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 4: giving female athletes what we deserve and making it better 714 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: for us. 715 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 3: And I think that. 716 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 4: Will help grow the sport, grow women's sport, and inspire 717 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 4: young girls and boys that damn, these girls are amazing. 718 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to be like them. 719 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. 720 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: I like that. 721 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: What are your biggest goals over the next. 722 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 3: Twelve months twelve months? 723 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 4: I think getting fit and healthy is my number one 724 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 4: priority at the moment. Getting to a stage where I'm 725 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 4: better than I was before all this happened. 726 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: I think that's one huge one. I really want to 727 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: become better. 728 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 4: I want to be better than I left it kind 729 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 4: of thing. I want to win w League, sorry A League, 730 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 4: w A League Women. 731 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, I just want to grow and also I 732 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: want to go beat it. 733 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 4: I really want to help inspire more people and really 734 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 4: give back to all the support that I got when 735 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 4: I was going through it all. 736 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 3: So those are my personal ones at the moment. 737 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 2: Really actually, yeah, I really wanted to touch on beat it. 738 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: So that's where you obviously were writing your blog post. 739 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: But you've also created these cancer bags and packs to 740 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: help people who are going through cancer. Can you tell 741 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: us a bit about how the idea came about and 742 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 1: what it involves. 743 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was going to the hospital and everything 744 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 4: and I was so unorganized. I had all my paperwork everywhere, 745 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, this is a nightmare. So 746 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 4: I need a bag where I'm like, this is my 747 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: specific cancer bag. I can take it to all my 748 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: other appointments and I deserve it. I'm going through something, 749 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: you crap, so why not. So that's where the idea 750 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: came from to make a specific bag, And so I 751 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 4: filled it with all things that helped me go through 752 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 4: when I was going through it, so like body, body 753 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 4: soap and really really good stuff. And so yeah, you 754 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,280 Speaker 4: can buy it for your friend who's going through cancer 755 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 4: or something similar, or you can just buy one and 756 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 4: we'll distribute it to a cancer patient. So yeah, I 757 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 4: think just trying to have something for people who are 758 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 4: newly diagnosed so that it gives them a sense of 759 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 4: comfort and just helps them kind of go through what 760 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 4: I went through. 761 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, And what are your like, what's your personal 762 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 2: goal to as you talk about growing beat It, what 763 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 2: do you want to keep doing in that space. 764 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 4: I just want to, I guess, give awareness but also 765 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 4: help people see the positives to their bad situation. 766 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a craft time. 767 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 4: It sucks, but if you can find the positives and 768 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 4: try and have a good mindset around it, then it 769 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 4: makes it easier. 770 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, it helps you. Yeah, I think, yeah for sure. 771 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: So we're going to be doing We've got a summer 772 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: merch third drop, which I think by the time this 773 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: episode goes live, we'll be live, and we're going to 774 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: be also donating ten percent to these packs. So we're 775 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: going to donate and then you guys will be able 776 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: to distribute those to cancer patients. We'll be able to 777 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: use the bags, which is really cool. So I make 778 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,959 Speaker 1: sure we've got the link for that, and I'll also 779 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: make sure we've got the link for beat It in 780 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: the show notes as well, so people can check out 781 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: the incredible work that you're doing there too. Before we 782 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: finish off, I wanted to come back to what you 783 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: were just saying before about being better. What is it that? 784 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: What's it going to take for you to be better 785 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: than what you were before. How do you measure that? 786 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 4: I think just making an impact on the field, really 787 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 4: really looking after my body, making sure I'm in the best, 788 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 4: just making sure I'm in the right possible state to 789 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: really play my best football I've ever played. 790 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, just be stronger and really dominate. Yeah cool? 791 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: I like that. 792 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 2: Getting swollen the gym too, Yeah, definitely. 793 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 3: As much as I hate it, I'll really try. 794 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: Yeah cool that. 795 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: I finish off every interview with three would you rather questions? 796 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: Here? 797 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 1: We get all right, so a couple of you good 798 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: mates Ossie or Matilda's Steph Catley and Lydia Williams. So 799 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: my first one is would you rather have to beat 800 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: Steph in a one on one race for the ball 801 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: or score a goal with Lydia in goals? 802 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 3: I think I'd rather score a goal against Lydia. Face. 803 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 4: I like that. 804 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 2: Number two? 805 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: Would you rather toast with veggiemite or marmite? 806 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: Definitely marmite, of course. 807 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, of course that's your answer. It's no good, 808 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: it's not so much better. 809 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: And number three would you rather win a World Cup 810 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: on home soil or win gold at the twenty twenty 811 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: four Olympics. 812 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 4: I think World Cup. I think that's the pinnacle of 813 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 4: our sport. That's the biggest one, especially because it's at home. 814 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 3: I think that would be done. Life's over. 815 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: It's perfect cool, very cool, tick that off. I love that. 816 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Dottie for coming on for a 817 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: chat today. It was really cool to hear a bit 818 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: about your story and about your childhood and about your 819 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: last I guess twelve months and everything that you've been 820 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: through and the way that you've I guess stayed positive 821 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: through it but also then being able to launch beat 822 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: it and helping other people go through something similar is 823 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: really incredible. So yeah, congrats on everything that you're continuing 824 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: to achieve in that space. 825 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: It's really really cool. 826 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me, and thank you 827 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 4: so much for donating that ten percent. 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