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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Seize seven of the Rise and Conker Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is.

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Speaker 1: The incredible Riley May. She is a female led sales coach,

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Speaker 1: If the word sales makes you feel a little bit

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Speaker 1: to love this episode. Let's get into it. Riley, welcome

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you here. We have been

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Speaker 1: Well. Also, so for someone who maybe struggles to grasp

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Speaker 1: this because they have been living in a masculine way

435
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Speaker 1: for so long and like conditioning from their parents, how

436
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: they were brought up very masculine. Something that I will

437
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: add to this is we know, for example, it's not

438
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Speaker 1: a correct let me try and articulate this. We know

439
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Speaker 1: for example that it's like I can do the same

440
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Speaker 1: you know, job as someone else and get paid ten

441
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: times as much because of this and that like we

442
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: know it's not like a direct transactional you do this,

443
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: you get paid that. Like, there's a lot more that

444
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: goes into that. There's energetics, there's who you are and whatnot.

445
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: And so I think a way to kind of explain

446
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Speaker 1: being in your feminine is even though maybe you're not

447
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: working as many days, the days you do work, you're

448
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: so intentional with your energy that it's like you are

449
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: maybe receiving tenfold on those days that it like makes

450
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Speaker 1: up for the other days.

451
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Speaker 2: Definitely does that kind of makes sense. I felt like

452
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Speaker 2: like we we got there to a vinal podcast, especially

453
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: when you happen all day. No, but that's it. And

454
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: I think women are made to receive. And it's like,

455
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: if we take the analogy of you know, a glass

456
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Speaker 2: of water, the glass is the masculine. It's the structure,

457
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: it's the stability, it's the support. We need to have

458
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: that to create safety for the feminine, which is the water,

459
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: and without the masculine, the water is everywhere it's got

460
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: no container to hold you know, the actual feminine, which

461
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: we need. It's like a relationship. We need the masculine

462
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: to create safety for the feminine, which is a very

463
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: erratic energy. It's very it's flowy like we're all over

464
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: the place. It's fluid, like we're all over the place.

465
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: And that's perfect. We're creative and we're intuitive, so we

466
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 2: can have such big impact. It's nonstructure. Yeah, but we

467
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: need the masculine. So it's like in business, Yes, we've

468
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: got the automation and the systems and the structure and

469
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Speaker 2: frameworks to create safety for us to be able to

470
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Speaker 2: come in and have a conversation without any structure. Because

471
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Speaker 2: if we sat here now and was like, okay, the

472
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Speaker 2: conversations going this, this, this, this, this this, that's so masculine.

473
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we just feel so clunky. Yeah, I just

474
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Speaker 1: put my phone away.

475
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like your hash there and then you're like whatever,

476
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: because we're just going to we're gonna yap anyway. So

477
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Speaker 2: I think it's just a really interesting conversation even for

478
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Speaker 2: anyone to consider, you know, even in an office environment, right,

479
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: Like sometimes as a woman you want to work from

480
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: the soft office, like you want to be on the

481
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: couch or you want to be in bed, and you

482
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: can be ten x productive working from a couch, then

483
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: you can an office desk. Because it's that time of

484
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: the month. I'm bloated, my pants are digging in, my

485
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: back's freaking saw, kind of got a headache. But if

486
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: you put me in a dark run a couch, I'll

487
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Speaker 2: probably get shit done.

488
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Speaker 1: And that's understanding that, yeah.

489
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Speaker 2: And letting that be okay, Like your hard work can

490
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Speaker 2: be working from the soft office, and that's an all

491
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: right thing to do. But we make ourselves so wrong.

492
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: So many clients I speak to with it, like I

493
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: just feel so lazy this week, and I'm not doing

494
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: anything this week, and I just can't focus this week.

495
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: And it's something that I just see so many women

496
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: battling with behind the scenes, especially female entrepreneurs, who feel

497
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: like they've got to be so on all the time.

498
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 2: We are just not made that way. No, and it's

499
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: okay to be completely off sometimes. And the most productive

500
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: thing you can do is go for a walk, have

501
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: a massage, and watch Gossip Girl. And I actually guarantee

502
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: you receive money in that time warranted you've done the

503
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: things that you need to do when you're on because

504
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: it's still execution, right. The feminine's not sit back and

505
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: do nothing and just hope it comes in. It's like, no,

506
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: we execute and we do the things we say we're

507
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: going to do. But then we sit back and we

508
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: let it, we let it cook. Yeah, yeah, receive.

509
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Speaker 1: And so let's go into like you said, you've definitely

510
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Speaker 1: done business in a masculine way. What's the kind of

511
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Speaker 1: difference and how do you do things in a feminine

512
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: way in your business currently?

513
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: Well? As women. I think something that's always important to

514
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: remember is we're not meant to pursue. We're not meant

515
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: to persuade, We're not meant to convince. We're not meant

516
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: to chase. We're not meant to beg We're not meant

517
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: to no desperate energy, no desperate energy. We're actually made

518
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 2: to sit back and receive. As silly as that sounds.

519
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: So in business, the way that I approach that, especially

520
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: in sales, is coming in with that energy of I

521
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: will execute and get things moving and happening to generate

522
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: that result. But no, I'm not going to convince you

523
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: to buy. No I'm not going to chase new leads. No,

524
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to persuade or convince you as to

525
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: why I'm a good person to buy from or you

526
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: should buy from me. So we think about it from

527
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: a marketing lens. Men are really driven by like fake urgency,

528
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: exaggerated authority, or competition. Like we know men are driven

529
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: by that. So if you're like I do a million

530
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: dollar a month, no, men love that. Or if it's

531
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: you only have seventy two hours to get in at

532
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 2: this price point, men love that. We're not driven by that.

533
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: Women are innately emotional beings and we're very intuitive. We

534
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: can see through bullshit so clearly and so quickly. So

535
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: if you're a woman selling a service to women or

536
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 2: selling anything to women, it doesn't land and it doesn't

537
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: work because we just call bullshit the minute we see it.

538
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: We want to trust you, we want to connect with you,

539
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: we want to know you, we want to really like you.

540
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: And women value things like style and ascetic and connection

541
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: and shared values and invitation. So when I think about

542
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: selling in business, for me, if I go I've got

543
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: to sell today, No, I have to extend an invitation today.

544
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 2: Do you want to join me in getting the transformation

545
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: that you're probably seeking a solution in amazing the invites here,

546
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: But it's like any in if you're having a party

547
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: and you put out you don't think about your email list.

548
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: You've got I don't know, ten thousand people in your

549
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: email list. You send out ten thousand invitations, you know

550
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: that some people will say yes, some people will say no,

551
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: and some people will say maybe. Either way, you're going

552
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: to be at the party. So it's up to them

553
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: whether or not they come. Am I going to follow

554
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: up and chase and push and convince you to come? No,

555
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: I'm not because I'm a woman of a maid to receive,

556
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: and there is nothing more repelling as a woman than

557
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: someone pursuing you. So true went to a woman.

558
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: Well, for example, if you send out an invite to

559
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: the party and someone's like are you coming? And you're like,

560
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: oh no, I can't make it because it's so and

561
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: so's birthday, And they're like, but why can't you come? After?

562
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: I please you, I'm gonna have the best cake there ever,

563
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god.

564
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, way stop, I's obsessed with me such

565
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: an eg So yeah, that makes complete sense, And.

566
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: I think what can then happen with a lot of

567
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: women is they feel then out of control. But if

568
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: I'm not chasing what people supposed to come to me,

569
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: and if I'm not always pursuing new leads or new

570
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: people or new clients or whatever, what am I supposed

571
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: to do?

572
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Like?

573
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: How am I going to receive clients? But this is

574
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: whereas when we have to think about our natural magnetism

575
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: and what makes us so magnetic by nature. If you

576
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: think about it in the dating world and not just

577
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: talk to like the polarity between you know, masculine and

578
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: feminine energy. It is so much more attractive to a

579
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: masculine energy when the feminine is secure, when she's grounded,

580
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: when she's focused on her and she's just doing her thing.

581
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: Like the masculine is way more likely to pursue you

582
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: when you're lent out than when you're leaning in. So

583
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: if you think about it from even an attachment style,

584
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: if in a sales conversation, marketing conversation, conversion conversation in business,

585
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: if we think about the two people involved, you, as

586
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: the seller will call it, are in your feminine because

587
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: you're receiving in this dynamic, and the buyer is in

588
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: their masculine because they're accessing logic, they're making a decision.

589
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 2: They're the ones that are like analyzing this person or

590
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: that person, this product or that product, this event or

591
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: that event, like whatever the comparison is. We know, to

592
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: create safety, we have to stay secure for the masculine

593
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: to lean in if we're anxiously attached in that process

594
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: and we're pursuing the masculine like hey, just checking in,

595
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: Hey just wondering, Hey, just they're out. Because to maintain polarity,

596
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,239
Speaker 2: one person has to lean out when the other leans in,

597
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 2: and we want that to go in our favor. So

598
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: if you're the feminine receiving, you have to lean out

599
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: to create safety for the masculine to lean in and

600
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: not the other way around. And a lot of women

601
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: will lose sales and you know, fail to kind of

602
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: close the sale or just struggle with conversion, whether it

603
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: is like a product based business or service based business

604
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: because they're too busy convincing, pushing, chasing, then actually creating

605
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: really high value content, sitting back and being deeply secure

606
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: in who they are and what they do and letting

607
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: clients come to knowing they move the needle in their

608
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: business and.

609
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Knowing they had the solution and knowing that they'll have

610
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: the transformation when they come to them.

611
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're so certain than that. How attractive is

612
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: certainty like in anyone because when you're certain in yourself

613
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 2: and your product, in your service and the transformation in whatever,

614
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: there's no proving. Drink it or don't drink it. I

615
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: don't care. I know it's so good. So it speaks

616
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: for itself because it exudes like so much confidence when

617
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: you're certain in something. When you're uncertain and maybe you

618
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: say things like I feel like an impostor you probably

619
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: are being an impostor. Maybe the product's not where you

620
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: want it to be, maybe the service isn't up to

621
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: the level you want it to be. Maybe you don't

622
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: feel embodied enough and what it is that you're teaching,

623
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: and that will impact everything you do from a front

624
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: facing perspective, whether it is your marketing or your messaging

625
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: or your content, because when you doubt yourself again, your

626
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: internal world will always reflect your external So it's a

627
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: huge part that we miss. It's like self esteem and

628
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: business is really important. I speak about it all the time.

629
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: Money loves self esteem. Sales love self esteem. Opportunity, love,

630
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: self esteem. You know, if I lacked confidence, I wouldn't

631
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: sit here because why would you want me on your podcast?

632
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: You wouldn't.

633
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: No, I think that was weird.

634
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: That was so.

635
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: Strange, right, But it's just little things like that, And

636
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: that's definitely something in you I'm attracted to. And because

637
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: you're embodied, you're confident. I know you practice what you breach.

638
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if I said yeah, like sales is good, yeah,

639
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: it's just not attractive. And I think that's something in

640
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: business too. I talk about it a lot, like the

641
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: halo effect and something that I copped really early in

642
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: my business. And I remember it was a bit of

643
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: a story for me, and I'm sure you've experienced this

644
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: as well. Being blonde and six ccessful and young and

645
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: entrepreneurial is the story around, like you're only successful because

646
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: you're attractive. And I remember someone said it to my face,

647
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: and it was kind of always a story in my head.

648
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: And then someone said it to me, you know, I

649
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: only feel like you built success because you're hot. It

650
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: was something like that, and as another girl said it

651
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: to me in the industry, so I was like, oh,

652
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: like that's a that's already a story and now it's

653
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: really a story. And I remember thinking, Okay, well if

654
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: that's true, if sex cells, if all of these things

655
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: contribute to success, fuck it. Yeah, why don't we leverage it?

656
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: You know, make it your superpower. The halo effect is real.

657
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: And this is less to do with physical attraction, way

658
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: more to do with energy. Like I say, I say

659
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: hot or confident or attractive, but I really am talking

660
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: energy because it's it's a frequency thing. Right. When you

661
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: decide to leverage everything that you are, shoulders back, you

662
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: sit up, you're confident in what you say, You're well,

663
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: like you've got articulation in terms of like this is

664
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: what I think and this is how I think. That's fell.

665
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's even. Like I was talking to someone

666
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: about like magnetism. They're like, but what is magnetism? I'm like,

667
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: you know those people who it's like they're not necessarily

668
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: the hottest person, they're not necessarily the most successful or anything,

669
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: but like they walk into a room and you're attracted

670
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: to them, like you want to talk to them, you

671
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: want to see whether they're like who is this person?

672
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: And you're like interested. It's because they're holding themselves and

673
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: they have a certain like magnetic charismatic energy that usually

674
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with looks or even sometimes they're

675
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: like a bit quirky looking or like, you know, there's

676
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: just something where you're like, there's something about this person

677
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: and I'm attracted to it. And a lot of people

678
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: think it's just about the physical, it's just about the intellect,

679
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: but it's like it's so much about how they be

680
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: and the energy. So that makes so much sense in

681
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: regards to being in your feminine being secure knowing that

682
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: you know you have the solution, you have the testimony,

683
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm not expecting everyone to buy from me.

684
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting everyone to come over here, and I

685
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: am so secure in myself and what I offer that

686
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm not worried and that's felt need it.

687
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: It's almost that and something else on self esteem. It's

688
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: like self esteem is really built through creating self trust,

689
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: and the fastest way to build self trust is to

690
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: follow through and execute. If you want what you say

691
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: you'll do, just do the thing you say you're going

692
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: to do. And it's the micro moments this is me

693
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: that I have to really really strengthen over the years

694
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: where it's something as simple as like when I get home,

695
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: so you go out for dinner, I'm going to have

696
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: a shower, brush my teeth before I hop into bed

697
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: and scroll. But then you get home and you like

698
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: in your bed and you scroll instead, and in an hour's passing,

699
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: you're like, fuck, I've gotta brush my teeth. They're going

700
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: a power. Still, you weren't your word. You lost trust

701
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: in that moment. So it's micro moments. We think it's

702
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: so much bigger than it is. It's like, where are

703
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: you not being your word in the smallest moments, like

704
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna charge my phone. I didn't charge my phone,

705
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: or I'm going to take the rubbish out when I

706
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: get home, And then you don't take the rubbish out

707
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: when you get home. You lose trust every single time

708
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: you don't do the thing you say you're going to do.

709
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: And I heard someone say it once, but it's like,

710
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: nothing is more damaging to self worth than not doing

711
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: the thing you say you're going to do, Like it

712
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: is the fastest way to lose confidence, it's the fastest

713
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: way to doubt yourself. It's the fastest way to feel

714
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: like you're not capable. When you write a list, and

715
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: not a list that's not achievable, just a list and

716
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: you just wake up and you do it. Just take

717
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: note of how you feel. You will be more confident.

718
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: You will feel better. In turn, you act better when

719
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: you act better. It's such a flow and effect. It's

720
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: like this beautiful web of like if you just do

721
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: what you say you're going to do, you trust yourself.

722
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: When you trust yourself, you respect yourself. When you respect yourself,

723
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: you like yourself. When you like yourself, You're confident when

724
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: you're you've got self esteem, when you have really high

725
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: self esteem. Your internal world is a reflection of owth.

726
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: And you want to attract so opportunities, money, success, it

727
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: all starts to come to you. But really it just

728
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 2: starts with follow through.

729
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: Well that's why like achievements feel so good because you've

730
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: said you're gonna do something, you wanted to achieve this thing,

731
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: and then you do. Like that's like and like you said,

732
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be these huge goals, these huge achievements.

733
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: You actually can do it in the micro moments and

734
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: still get the same effect that will have a flow

735
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: on effect to everything else.

736
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm moving at the moment and I said

737
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: to myself of the night, You're going to pack three

738
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 2: boxes with the kitchen before you sleep, Like just three boxes.

739
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: And I did it, and I went to bed feeling

740
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: so accomplished. And I'm just packing boxes for a move, right,

741
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: It's not contributing to anything. But I wake up the

742
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: next day knowing I've already ahead. I've done what I

743
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: said I'm going to do. Now I have time for

744
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: my walk. When I go on my walk, I'm a

745
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: better person. When i'm a better person, I show up

746
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: in a better way. It's it is in the mind

747
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: chrome moments, and I think we underestimate that massively, where

748
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: it's like we need to do this big thing. It's

749
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: like focus on the one percent, as cliche as that is,

750
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: and just watch and witness how differently you start to

751
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: feel and then in turn show up. It's the biggest

752
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: life hack. I love that so much.

753
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,319
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764
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774
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Speaker 1: for all the details. All right, let's get back into

775
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Speaker 1: the episode, jumping back to feminine why and like feminine

776
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: in business, feminine in sales why? Because something I've noticed,

777
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: like why do you think women struggle so much to sell?

778
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Like they find it. That's like saying they're like, oh

779
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: I feel really eky? You know, why do you think

780
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: that's the thing? I think too, so like men don't

781
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: know nuh.

782
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: I actually have posted on this month where I was like,

783
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: have you noticed how men will never apologize for selling?

784
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, there's something to that. A man will

785
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: never apologize for being too much.

786
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: One second, I literally remember I was listening to like

787
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: Jenna Kutcher's podcast and I remember once she like did

788
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: this whole thing where she's like, I'm not putting ads

789
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: my podcast for a whole three months just to give

790
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: you guys like value and content and I don't want

791
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: you guys to feel like there's just a whole bunch

792
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: of ads my podcast. And then you listen to someone

793
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: like like Stephen Bartlett or something, Yeah, there's just like

794
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: he's never gonna be like, guys, I'm not doing ads

795
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: and do you know.

796
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: What I mean? Completely? Why do we feel like that? Yeah,

797
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: it's so annoying. Isn't annoying annoying? Because yeah, but we

798
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: do apologize. And I think if there's so much to

799
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: be said for it, I think it comes back to

800
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: a lot of like good girl conditioning and a lot

801
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: of women and you might relate listening. I've definitely been there,

802
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: and I'm sure you've been there. It's you know, women

803
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: can't be selfish, Women can't be greedy, women can't be

804
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: too much, women can't be obnoxious, women can't be outspoken,

805
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 2: women can't have an opinion. Like it goes into all

806
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: of this stuff where sales, really you're asking for something, Okay,

807
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: so that makes you selfish and greedy? What are you

808
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: asking for something that's going to result in money? What

809
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 2: does money make you? It makes you greedy, it makes

810
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: you this, it makes you that. So we've got a

811
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: lot of stories tied up around wealth and success and

812
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: money and asking for things. It's definitely been a lot

813
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: of my work, But ultimately I feel women are mimicking

814
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: the masculine way of doing things and then wondering why

815
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: are met with so much resistance. But if we come

816
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: into I actually get to sell like a woman, which

817
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: is a huge part of my brand and what I

818
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: speak to. But selling like a woman is selling in

819
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: a way that women actually respond to. It's selling in

820
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: a way that we feel really good to sell. Like

821
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: maybe when we're integrating and add in a podcast, it's

822
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: not plugging in with this script that the company has

823
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: potentially sent, and it's very you know, like line by

824
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: line and it feels very clunky. But the way we

825
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: could integrate that is sharing a real life experience and

826
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 2: connecting over something that is real for us or true

827
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: for us. I hear that, and I'm like, yeah, sold,

828
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: like kind again, I hear you. So it's a lot

829
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: in a lot more in the delivery, and I think

830
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: the perception of it then the story around whether or

831
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: not we should be selling. I love that.

832
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: And even what you described before about like selling in

833
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: a feminine way, like you said that and I was like,

834
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: that feels so easy. And I feel like a lot

835
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: of people if they're selling in the feminine way, they're

836
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: not gonna feel ekey, They're not gonna feel like they

837
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: can't sell. They're not gonna feel like they can't show up. Yeah,

838
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: and that's even like I remember speaking to one of

839
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: like my content my previous content creators, and she even

840
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: said something to me like, oh, but we've done you know,

841
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: three posts this week about the Abundance Academy, Like are

842
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: you sure you don't want to do some more personal content,

843
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: and I was like why, like, yeah, I'm selling my course,

844
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: but it's like we can do it in like a

845
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: really iron you sell in a personal way, like and

846
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: she was kind of saying like, oh, people are gonna

847
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: get annoyed, and I'm like, well, no, it's like if

848
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: they don't like their content, they can just simply unfollow me.

849
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: But it's like I'm still gonna like show up and

850
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: like tell people what I've got going on, like this

851
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: is why I'm on social media, and yeah, of course,

852
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: but it's like I'm not like for me, it can

853
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: feel a bit manipulative to be like sale content, personal content,

854
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: sale content. Put some content in there of like my child,

855
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: you know, do you know what I mean?

856
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: Like you're just ticking a box and like, oh, I'm

857
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: up to personal or I'm not up to educational or not.

858
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: And like it shouldn't feel like that, because I think

859
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: that's when it's going to feel like key yeah. Whereas

860
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: for me, it's like if I want to do nine

861
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: posts on like naked Harvests creatine, I will like because

862
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: it's like if that's what's coming through me, and that's

863
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: what like feels good because I need to sell in

864
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: a way that feels good to me. That's what I'm

865
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: going to do. And so it's like very interesting when

866
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: people in the path has like been like oh, but

867
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: it feels like hey or whatnot. I'm like, but why

868
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: if you're selling your authentic self? And also I sell

869
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 1: in a very like emotional way because I'm an emotional buyer,

870
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: like and so I very much I love how you touch.

871
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: On that because I was like, oh that makes sense.

872
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it is very interesting and it's very much

873
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: often it's not so much like it's ecky to sell.

874
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: It's like our perception and why we think and then

875
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: navigating it like.

876
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: Backwards through that. And I think a lot comes down

877
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: to money beliefs that we hold, especially as women. I

878
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: think it's still interesting to have the conversation around like

879
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 2: it is new for women to be making money still

880
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: like we are at the we are at the beginning

881
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: of it. To an extent, yes, it's not it's not

882
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: that long ago that this was nowhere near the norm.

883
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: So for women to be making not only money, but

884
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: a lot of money in a way that doesn't require

885
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: us to actually work that quote unquote hard, it's a

886
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: really jarring concept because we were raised by a generation

887
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: where it wasn't normal.

888
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: Well that's even like this is going off for a tangent.

889
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: I find it.

890
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: We love it so interesting how triggered, especially men get by,

891
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: for example, an influencer earning a lot of money through

892
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: social media, who she's just showing up being herself, posting content,

893
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: and like, people are so triggered, and I'm like, that's

894
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: like that actually explains a lot. It's because it's so

895
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: jarring to see a woman because usually content creators are

896
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: women in they're feminine, doing their thing, being authentically themselves

897
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: and making bank. And it's like people find that so

898
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: triggering because they're like, no, but you've gotta work really hard.

899
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: Even like we recently bought a new house and the

900
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: comments section on TikTok was wild where people were like, oh, well,

901
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: she's just an influencer, that's why she can afford it.

902
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: It's like babes, I literally like multiple businesses. If you

903
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: even watch my social media, yeah, like you see the

904
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: determination and drive and yeah, like you also see like

905
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: the fun tiktoks they do, and like the fun content

906
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: I have on my team and my life is really

907
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: fun and easy. But that doesn't mean I'm not deserving

908
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: of what I earn. And so I just think it's

909
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: so funny because I'm like, your perception of me will

910
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: be the reason where you're not successful.

911
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: Well, what makes me so annoyed about hearing that, which

912
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: of course it's happening, but it makes me so annoyed

913
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: because this is actually the issue. Right. We reward people,

914
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: I've yeah, I could go on about this but no,

915
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: but we reward hard work and success, Like if someone

916
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: has really hustled for a result, we reward the hustle.

917
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: It's like, you grinded for that and your story was

918
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: so insane and X, Y and z, And then when

919
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 2: someone does it in a way that it's never easy.

920
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: But let's just say now it's like easy and you're

921
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: actually artist living your best life and there are no issues.

922
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: That's when like the tall Poppy syndrome comes in and

923
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: it's like, you can't have that if you're not working hard.

924
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 2: You can't have that if it hasn't been you know,

925
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: this really horrible journey to get there, And like you said,

926
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: from a perception lens, they then create that for themselves

927
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: and that's the thing that keeps out so many people

928
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: stuck because I promise you for you listening, it probably

929
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: could be really, really easy. But if you're married to

930
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: it being hard, you're going to create hard systems. Yeah,

931
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 2: just so that can be your story and in turn

932
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 2: you might never get there.

933
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: Well, this is even just came to my brain. I'm

934
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: not sure if we'll leave this in or not a

935
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: bit controversial, but even like the topic of only fans,

936
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: people are so mad that a woman can be in

937
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: the safety of her own home not necessarily participate or

938
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: be like a porn star. Bit she can do whatever

939
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: content she was maybe going to do anyway, or like

940
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: whatever she wants to do, and make so much money

941
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: for it, and people like, obviously there is like other

942
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: sides to it, and we won't get into that, we

943
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: won't comment on that. But I even think it's so

944
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: interesting with that because I'm like, there's always been porn.

945
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: There's always been women who show their bodies and you know,

946
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: do certain acts, and there's always people watching them, buying it.

947
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: There's a fucking porn industry. Likes that's always been a thing,

948
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: but it's in this new way which makes it easier

949
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: for specifically female content creators and safer, and people are

950
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: so mad at it. Like again, I know there's other

951
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: issues that come into it when we're not like talking

952
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: about that, but even that concept, I'm like so interesting

953
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: from like a mindset perspective.

954
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: And we've never lived in a time whether it be

955
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: only fans, online, business creations, right whatever, Like there's a

956
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: thousand ways to make money now in many capacities, but

957
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: we've never lived in a time where it's actually so

958
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 2: easy to leverage something that you are naturally incredible at

959
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: and turn it into income. And I think anyone right

960
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: now that isn't doing that or has being negative to

961
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: say about it, like aka the old men and your

962
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: TikTok comment section is because they one can't and two

963
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: never will be able to. So it's very jarring to

964
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: see so many young women succeeding because it can never

965
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: be their reality based on the limitation they placed on themselves,

966
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: based on their mindset, based on the way they see

967
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: the world. So we you know, when our kids one

968
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: day are in their twenties and thirties, it's a different world,

969
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: Like this will be the most normal thing in the

970
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: entire world. It's just not normal yet. And I think

971
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: sometimes we forget that we are we are sort of

972
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: the first wave of this. Yeah, we have to walk

973
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: the path. Yeah's and there's a lot of projection.

974
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: In that, and you gotta hold the projections. And look,

975
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: I always go to like, who would I rather be

976
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: the person commenting on my TikTok or me in the TikTok?

977
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: And I'd always rather be b So yeah, you know,

978
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: you just allow it. But it is so interesting and

979
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: you can clearly see someone's comments, someone's judgment, someone's criticism

980
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: is such a projection of their own limiting beliefs always

981
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: literally nothing to do with you.

982
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just, oh, the judgment conversation, I think

983
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: is so big. It's like, if there's anything to take

984
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 2: from any conversation ever, I just don't let judgment win.

985
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: Don't let the fear that you're experiencing like override the

986
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: life you know you deserve to experience. It's like, we

987
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: all have a better beliefs that don't serve us, and

988
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: we all have fears that hold us back. But the

989
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: ones that succeed, the ones that get really good at

990
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: just having that fear and moving anyway and knowing those

991
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: beliefs are there. But then just choosing to create or

992
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: rewrite those beliefs because they exist. Like it doesn't matter

993
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: who you are. You fear judgment, you fear criticism, you

994
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: fear being misunderstood, you fear failing, but you just get

995
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: really good at moving anyway.

996
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's wanted to discomfort because it is.

997
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: Uncomfortable, but then someone's being told what to do. So

998
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 2: for Pear, I'm just gonna keep going literally, you know,

999
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: like it's just choose your heart, always choose your heart. Yeah.

1000
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: So something I want to shift gears and just talk

1001
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: about again like the feminine being feminine your business, because

1002
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 1: this is something that I have struggled with. Again, it's

1003
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: very easy for me to be masculine, like I find

1004
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: it very easy. It's honestly harder for me to be feminine.

1005
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: But I know when I'm always in my masculine, I

1006
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: do get burnt out. And I have had so many

1007
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: periods of burnt out like previously, and it's something I'm

1008
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: very conscious of. And so for you, what do you

1009
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: think is like, how can a female scale her business

1010
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: want that extra output while still being in the feminine

1011
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: and not reaching burnout.

1012
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: I think there's a big conversation and something to be

1013
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: said around home life and your support outside of business

1014
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: because your business now you're like another conversation I think

1015
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 2: one in business, there's always going to be a level

1016
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: of masculine that's required to scale, Like there is no

1017
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: denying that. Like I said before, do you have automation

1018
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: in place? Do you have systems in place? Do you

1019
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: have frameworks in place? An example of this can be

1020
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: do you have sales funnel set up? Do you have

1021
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: social media scheduled? Have you about created your podcast episodes

1022
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: for the month ahead? Do you have team to support

1023
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: you with admin and outsourcing those tasks? Do you have

1024
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: you know, like automated email sent out when it's the weekend?

1025
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: Like what are different things that you have set up

1026
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: to support you so you can be in your feminine

1027
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: Like business is moving when you're not. This is a

1028
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: really big thing from a business perspective. So it's like

1029
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: you feel really held in your business because it's just

1030
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: like this well oiled machine, whether or not you're actively

1031
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: doing anything that day or not, Like can you sit

1032
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: back in business still moves? If no, then some masculine

1033
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: needs to be implemented in whatever capacity that looks like and.

1034
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Does it look like, yeah, there will always need to

1035
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: be masculine, and it's like figuring that out and doing

1036
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: that first and then understanding that it's not like masculine massular,

1037
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: masumaze mass and messine burnout. It's masculine feminine. Masculine feminine.

1038
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: Is that kind of what you're saying.

1039
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: Completely because you want to be integrating all of this

1040
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: obviously as business progresses and builds, but in a way

1041
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: that allows you to be in your feminine. So if

1042
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: I'm outsourcing to team and I hire a team, amazing.

1043
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: Now I freed up all of my morning admin. I'm

1044
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: no longer touching payments, I'm no longer touching emails, I'm

1045
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: no longer touching back end. Incredible, So what can I

1046
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: do in that time? I can go for a walk,

1047
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 2: I can answer my clients. I can create content. It's

1048
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: having a structure around the thing that you need to

1049
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: do so it moves, you can create and you're supported

1050
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: in both parts. If I had none of that implemented,

1051
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: how can I be in my feminine? I have to

1052
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: do things automatically. I've got to manually send out things.

1053
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: If I don't sell, I can't sell Like it's all

1054
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: of these different things where it's like, can you sit

1055
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: back and still receive money without actively doing anything that day?

1056
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: If no, you need automation in place. Our email is

1057
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: going out, Like for an example, my BM does all

1058
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: my emails, so I'll wake up and now like get

1059
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: an email from myself and I'm like, oh, hi.

1060
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: Sam, and my first subject line so and what's this?

1061
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, A good one.

1062
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like a lot of it's my copy from

1063
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: either things that I've written or done on programs, but

1064
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: it's not ever I'm not the one curating the email.

1065
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: So I'm always like the subject saying how to blah

1066
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: blah blah, and I'm just like, oh what did I say?

1067
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: And then clicking it, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm an

1068
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: I remember, I know same and I'm not one Georgie.

1069
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: I look.

1070
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: But it's like that's the system. So you might have

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Speaker 2: like all your podcasts batch you like, okay the next

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Speaker 2: six weeks of contents being rolled out. So if in

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Speaker 2: one of those weeks, so I'm tighten them on the couch,

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Speaker 2: I'm still posting content that day. Things are still selling

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Speaker 2: that day, Everything's still moving that day, even though I'm

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Speaker 2: not moving, and that's a feminine lad business. What's very

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Speaker 2: masculine is like I create and posts that day. I

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Speaker 2: do everything this day. I have to write the email today.

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Speaker 1: So, for example, if you're absolutely not, for example, if

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Speaker 1: you're launching, so is it called sales academy, your sales academy.

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Speaker 2: Do you have launches or do you We're watch of

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Speaker 2: one right now, but technically speaking, yeah, it is always open. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So let's say you're in a launch for sales academy.

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Speaker 1: Are you, for example, three weeks ay, three weeks out? Wow, sorry,

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Speaker 1: been a long day. Are you, for example, three weeks

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00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: out batching? Okay, today I'm going to do six Instagram posts. Today,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do blah blah blah. Are you kind

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Speaker 1: of doing that for a launch or like what does

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Speaker 1: that look like?

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Speaker 2: Give some tangible so yes, in short, yeah, like we'll

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Speaker 2: always have a plan months out. Typically I would say

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Speaker 2: two months out from anything moving or happening.

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Speaker 1: Not too far because you never know how you feel.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, I'm out a week. I'm the

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Speaker 1: worst of that. Like Jamie will ask me, she's asking

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Speaker 1: me about like my maternity leave, which is in August,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, ask me in a month, just

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Speaker 1: I can't I kind even go there.

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm not. Yeah, even two weeks aheads, like

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Speaker 2: even what's for dinner is huge. I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what I feel like in it out wait wait,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, always a plan in place. So it's like

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Speaker 2: we've got notion and things in place where we will

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Speaker 2: map out literally copy for everything, the email funnels, marketing

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Speaker 2: side of things, modules and everything's done down to email

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Speaker 2: templates are done, so come launch, it's all just set

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Speaker 2: up and ready to essentially roll out. I'm not doing

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Speaker 2: it in real time, but I will allow space for

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Speaker 2: creation in the moment. So if I'm like I just

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Speaker 2: want to create for TikTok in the moment, I just

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00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: crept in the moment. But that feels really good totally

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Speaker 2: because I but if you don't when it's not going

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Speaker 2: to like saber charge, no, yeah, I'm not relying on

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Speaker 2: it that day, and that's really important, I think. And

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Speaker 2: just circling back to the home life part, I feel

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Speaker 2: very lucky and grateful that when I think about my partner,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't I don't cook and clean. I

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00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: don't cook. I don't clean, No, but it's something for

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Speaker 2: me where I'm like, well, if i'm you know, because

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Speaker 2: we are in our masculine quite a lot, there's things

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Speaker 2: that I like to be looked after in that are

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00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: maybe not traditional, but that does feel good for me.

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Speaker 2: Like if I don't have to worry about the groceries like,

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Speaker 2: that feels good for me. If I don't have to

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Speaker 2: think about the washing being done, that feels good for me.

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Speaker 2: So in ways, I get to receive and I feel

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Speaker 2: like I can turn my brain off. Like when I'm

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Speaker 2: with him, I don't if I'm going on a walk

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Speaker 2: in the morning, He's like we're going on a walk,

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Speaker 2: I'm like what am I wearing? Like is it a

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00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: beach walk? Is it a path walk? Is it going

1132
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: to the gym? After? You just tell me? And I

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01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: personally I know not everyone loves that. I just love

1134
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Speaker 2: to be told where I'm going, when I'm going, and

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Speaker 2: what I should be wearing. I love it too, And

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Speaker 2: then I'm like cool, I can just hick to my

1137
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: brain off.

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Speaker 1: Tim literally like yep, cooks cleans and even like my

1139
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: favorite thing is he just knows where everything is. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm like, do you know where my apods are He's like,

1141
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: yuh in the third draw blah blah blah, do you.

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Speaker 2: Know what this is?

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Speaker 1: And like I probably know, but it's like the feels good. Oh,

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Speaker 1: someone just like knows where everything is. And even like

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Speaker 1: he was away in his trip and I'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like, do you know where this thing is?

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, I need like no, and I'm like, oh,

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: I probably like just needed that, Like yeah, yeah, you're

1149
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: like actually have my head, but I check that.

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Speaker 2: I had to check that you need. It's so true,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's just nicer as women. We again,

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01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: we're living in a different world, and if you're working

1153
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: and your partner's working, it's it's coming into all how

1154
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: do you want to be supported in other ways? Because

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01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: maybe it is just being able to turn your brain

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Speaker 2: off when it comes to what meals you're having that

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Speaker 2: week or life add mean, like, yes.

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Speaker 1: Tim's very good like cooking, cleaning, life admin. But even

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Speaker 1: something I realized the other day, we me and Tim

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Speaker 1: just don't talk about business. Like I will tell him

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Speaker 1: very like top line things, but we're not talking strategy.

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Speaker 1: We're not talking those sorts of things. And he honestly

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Speaker 1: never asked me and someone the other day was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just like found it so basically saying

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Speaker 1: like their partner, and she found it like she wanted

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Speaker 1: him to ask her questions about business. And I was

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Speaker 1: reflecting and I was like, yeah, he doesn't really ask me.

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Speaker 1: But it's like in a way of like I can

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Speaker 1: just come home and I switched my brain off and

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Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about work. I'm not thinking about a

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Speaker 1: strategy for a launch, you know, creaty or whatever it's like.

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Speaker 1: And that feels so good to me, and I'm very grateful.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's like we have set that boundary,

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Speaker 1: we have set that container, and he knows when I

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Speaker 1: come home. I yeah, I don't want to like obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: It's just like healthy separation too, yes, And I think

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Speaker 2: as women too. I don't know if you find this,

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01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 2: but I love getting completely ready for my day and

1180
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: then getting unready for my day because when I'm ready,

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01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm working, and then the minute my hair's up, jewelry

1182
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: is off. Yes, and I get into an oversized T shirt.

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01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: I'm not working anymore. I think having that separation, especially

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Speaker 2: if you work from home. I work from home. I

1185
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: need to be like i'm working, I'm not working, yes,

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01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: and I come on a form of like I just

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01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: want my rings off at night. I don't know about

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01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: you when like get my rings off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I can't. I'm like that, even timsake, but you

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01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: don't whar you're like winning at my I'm not married

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Speaker 1: on this house.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, there's certain like ritols and routines round

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01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: like wash the day off, like I have a shower

1195
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: straight away, those sorts of things.

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01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: It's like little cues to create separation and you to

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01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I was in my masculine, now in

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01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: my feminine. Yeah, and I'm receiving.

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Speaker 1: I love that so much, Riley. I have loved this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.

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01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This is like we've gone in

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01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: a lot of different directions, but standard all the mess

1203
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: podcasts do that. Where can people find you work with

1204
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: you learn more about feminine sales?

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01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: So I'm over at Instagram, my personal at the Riley

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: May and you can also follow the academy page at

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01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: Women that Sell And if you want to, I guess

1208
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: like dip your toe in and start this work, you

1209
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 2: can always DM me the word sell on Instagram and

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: that will send you directly to a master class of

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: mine which dives into all things feminine led sales, particularly

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01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: if you're a service provider. It is honestly game changing

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01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: and it's just the way forward in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: I'll go watch it.

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: He DNA, all right, you get out of my dfs.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my love. I appreciate that, and

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Speaker 1: of course we will link everything in the show notes.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much for listening to this

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Speaker 1: episode of the Rise and Conquer podcast. If you and

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it and want more, connect with us via Instagram

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Speaker 1: or continue the conversation on our beautiful Facebook community page.

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Speaker 1: All the details are in the show notes, and I'd

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Speaker 1: love to hear more about your journey. Also, we're in

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Speaker 1: an independent podcast with a small but mighty team, so

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Speaker 1: we really do appreciate your support. If you have a

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Speaker 1: spare moment, please click the follow or subscribe button to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, and if you leave a review, you'll help

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