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Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with Jones.

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Speaker 2: Robin Lawling is a supermodel who came through the modeling

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Speaker 2: world in the era of the waif. Therefore, she was

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Speaker 2: branded a plus size model. In fact, she's the first

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Speaker 2: so called plus size to grace the cover of Vogue Australia.

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Speaker 2: She's really been one of the women to pave the

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Speaker 2: way for change in the industry and how everyday women

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Speaker 2: can finally see themselves represented. This week is Australian Fashion

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Speaker 2: Week in Sydney. She is modeling a new line called

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Speaker 2: the Curve Edit. For fashion week. She joins us now, Robin, Hi.

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Speaker 1: Hi, how are you guys going good? Thanks?

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Speaker 3: Robin. So you're at a barbecue and someone says, hey,

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Speaker 3: what do you do for a living? Robin? What do

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Speaker 3: you say? Do you say supermodel? Do you say I'm

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Speaker 3: a model? Or how do you answer that?

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Speaker 1: You know? I constantly I just say model, I'm a model.

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Speaker 3: And I'm How do people respond to that? Do they go?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: Model is quite a big state.

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Speaker 3: That's a big state, you know.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could say that, but yeah, I get

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Speaker 1: intimidated by saying that. I think of Naomi Campbell when

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Speaker 1: I think supermodel.

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Speaker 2: And then they look at what's on your plate at

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Speaker 2: the barbecue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you should be eating an ice cuban.

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Speaker 1: A sunflows like, why are you eating? Lady?

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Speaker 2: I threw down another cheap day robin. So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It probably gets up your nose to be called a

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Speaker 2: plus size model. But you're tall, you're broad shouldered, but

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Speaker 2: what size are you? You're still, you know, incredibly beautiful

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Speaker 2: and shapely, but you're not big by any means.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm actually part of the national average

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Speaker 1: size fourteen. You know, sometimes I can squeeze into twelve

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Speaker 1: and sometimes I have to fit at sixteen. So it

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Speaker 1: kind of ranges from twelve to sixteen.

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Speaker 2: And it must have been so hard for you early

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Speaker 2: on when now clothes can are made for real women.

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Speaker 2: But all the sample sizes that you would have had

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Speaker 2: to model, Well, how did you go about that? Did

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Speaker 2: you bulldog clips holding them at the back. I've had

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Speaker 2: photo shoots like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that's the thing, you know, when I first

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Speaker 1: started the sample sizes, I mean I couldn't even get

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Speaker 1: them over my leg level. And then now fortunately that's

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Speaker 1: you know why they had this whole industry past sized fashion,

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Speaker 1: because it was only starting from a size twelve and

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Speaker 1: up and so you know I can fit into the

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Speaker 1: close now it's fine.

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Speaker 3: And when you see a model walk down the catwalk

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Speaker 3: and they look so expressionless, do they do that on purpose?

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Speaker 3: Because my theory is because I'm high fashion, as you know,

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Speaker 3: is that you're walking down the mad and if you're

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Speaker 3: beaming like a loon, everyone's going to look at your

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Speaker 3: crazy face and not the outfit.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Does that have some credence?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, they tell you the vibe. You know, the

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Speaker 1: designers have a feeling. You know, you're just doing what

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Speaker 1: they want, so they'll tell you how to like look.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, I always try to have

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Speaker 1: some kind of expression on my face, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's so photographed and filmed and everyone's staring. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I think the blank face look is so in

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Speaker 1: fashion right now. But I feel like I can't help

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Speaker 1: but do a look. It's like my thing.

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Speaker 2: And what's the curve edit? So we're seeing this for

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Speaker 2: the first time at the fashion week? What does it mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a huge opportunity because we've never had

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Speaker 1: a runway like this and it's all models actually over

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Speaker 1: a size twelve, So all the excluded girls are finally included,

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Speaker 1: and we're just modeling a range of different designers that

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Speaker 1: have sizes from twelve and up, so they actually go

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Speaker 1: to you know, a size twenty or a twenty two.

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Speaker 1: So there's you know, beautiful design to the gowns, and

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Speaker 1: there's cool fashion and a swimwear and I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: all this time, it's so hard to go shopping in

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Speaker 1: a certain size. Sometimes there's nothing available. You never see

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Speaker 1: your body represented. You don't know how the fashion looks.

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Speaker 1: And we're just going to change all that.

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Speaker 2: How brilliant because that right so often you see something

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Speaker 2: you think that's gorgeous, but I have no idea what

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Speaker 2: that's going to look like on a body that has hips.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and you want I mean, I've always wanted to

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Speaker 1: see my body represented. And as soon as I did

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Speaker 1: see a curve model, my life changed. You know. I

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Speaker 1: saw my body on a runway and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't have to starve myself. This

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Speaker 1: is such a stupid ideal, And you know, it was

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Speaker 1: such a revolution to me. It's such a pivotal moment

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Speaker 1: in my teenage years. So I want other women to

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Speaker 1: feel that way.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever worn something and you thought this out

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Speaker 3: it's nuts?

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Speaker 1: I like the nuts. I want the crazy. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm always upset because I always kind of make me

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Speaker 1: wear boring stuff. I'm like, give me the crazy, the crazier.

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Speaker 3: Because I was looking at that Meghan with me. What's

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Speaker 3: the name you know, Meghan? You know Meghan Fox, Megan Fox.

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Speaker 3: When she wore that thing with all the motorcycle mirrors

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Speaker 3: on it and stuff, I thought that looks crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I love art and modern art, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm also the crazy. I think runways should be crazy.

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Speaker 2: More cook on the catwalk next year for fashion week.

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Speaker 3: That's cookie catwalk. I think that's the.

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Speaker 1: Thing we need, a runway, a cookie catwalk.

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Speaker 3: I'll be there grinning like an idiot. The Curve Edit

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Speaker 3: with Robin will take.

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Speaker 2: Place tomorrow and today today and today.

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Speaker 3: As part of After Pay Australian Fashion Week. Robin Lawley,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys get to see the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Robin,