1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: A very good morning to you all. Today is Thursday, 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: the eighth of July. As always, I'm joined by Sam Kosloski, 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: co founder of the Daily Os and today what are 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: we talking about here? 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: In New South Wales lockdown was extended. We're going to 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: catch you up on that. There is a big push 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: from businesses to help with the vaccine rollout. We're going 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: to chat through good news about a shorter week and 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: break down some media jargon. It's particularly important this week 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: and we'll tell you why. 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: Not. Great news out of New South Wales yesterday with 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: the state recording twenty seven locally acquired COVID nineteen cases, 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: eighteen of which were connected to existing cases, but importantly 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: seven cases were infectious while in the community, and Gladysbury 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Jicklian has made clear that that is the number that 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: health authorities are really focusing on. A how many people 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: are connected to existing outbreaks, but b how many people 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: are out and about in the community while infectious. So 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: we know that the lockdown will be extended until next Friday, 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: July sixteenth, and Gladysbury Jicklin said this about the delta 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: variant yesterday. Now, the reason for this is as we've 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: been saying this stilter straining is a game changer. It's 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: extremely transmissible and more contagious than any other form of 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: the virus that we've seen. We have shortened our script 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: nowadays on the states that we have to report on 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen numbers. So it's just Queensland who recorded a 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: single locally acquired case yesterday and that person was already 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: in home quarantine, So good news all around. For the 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: rest of the country. 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: You might be going to Bunnings for more than just 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: a snag. You might actually be going for a vaccine. 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: And that vaccine and a snag. 33 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Of course, you cannot get one without the other, and 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: that's because Treasurer Josh Fridenberg said that various big businesses 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: are willing to host vaccination hubs in Australia. Besides for Bunnings, 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: there's also Cohle's, Commonwealth Bank, Telstra, Virgin Quantus and Office 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: Work and all of these companies representatives met with the 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Treasurer and health officials yesterday morning. Fridenberg said there were 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: many exciting and interesting ideas brought by the businesses to 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: help with the vaccine rollout. 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: The first of the funerals has been held for victims 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: of the tragedy in Florida. Overnight yesterday, a ten year 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: old and her four year old sister were buried in 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: the same white coffin alongside their parents. This occurred at 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: the same time as rescue crews continued to work into 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: the night to search for survivors of the tragedy. Officials 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: did say yesterday though that there were no new signs 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: of life. 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: And today's good news, which had a massive reaction on 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: social media. Two and a half thousand employees in Iceland 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: have trialed a four day working week, with researchers finding 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: that worker well being dramatically increased a range of indicators 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: from perceived stress and burnout to health and work life balance. 54 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: So this trial involved employees moving from forty hours of 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: work a week to thirty five to thirty six hours 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: over four days, and they still received the same pay. 57 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 2: According to the study, productivity amongst most of the employees 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: remained the same or actually improved. We found ourselves in 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: an interesting situation yesterday morning where we put up a 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: piece on Instagram that said the new South Wales government 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: is set to announce the extension of lockdown at eleven am, 62 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: and this was at about seven am, and we started 63 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: to get questions on social media as to how did 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: we actually know what the government was going to say. 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: So what we wanted to chat about on today's podcast 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: is the idea of briefing out and backgrounding and some 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: other kind of media lingo terms that are big in 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: the worlds of journalists, but they actually shape the news 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: that you read every day. What did we see happen 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: yesterday with the media. 71 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: It was really interesting. So, as you said, we woke 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: up to news that there was a lockdown coming, and 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't just one media organization was reporting this. If 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: you opened the Sydney Morning Herald, if you read the ABC, 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: if you listened to the ABC, if you read the Australian, 76 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: if you read the finn Review, it was on the 77 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: front page of every single major newspaper in this country. 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: And to the naked eye, it would have been a 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: bit confusing as to how all of the media seemingly 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: knew about this lockdown hours and hours and hours before 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: it was announced. So what we saw last night, or 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: actually earlier yesterday, was the Premier and her cabinet briefing 83 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: the media on what the outcomes of their cabinet meeting 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: had been, So in this case, it is extremely likely 85 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: that a representative from the premier's office or the Health 86 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: minister's office or someone in the government spoke to specific 87 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: members of the media about what was going to happen. 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: And this can be done for a number of reasons. 89 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: In this case, the premier was announcing pretty bad news. 90 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: She was a premier who hadn't wanted to put her 91 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: state into lockdown, not that any premiers want to do that, 92 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: but she'd been pretty strongly worded about the way that 93 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: she wanted to handle this outbreak, So it could be 94 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: assumed that the story was briefed out to the media 95 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: so as to take out the oxygen from her announcement, 96 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: meaning that when she announced it, it wasn't this shock horror, 97 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't unheard of, it wasn't massive. Everyone was sort 98 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: of emotionally prepared for what was coming. And we see 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: this happen quite often with big announcements of this nature. 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Another reason that government can brief out to journalists is 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: to basically gauge where public sentiment is at. So you 102 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: might see this, say, for example, from the treasurer if 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the Treasury Department is looking to introduce some sort of 104 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: fiscal reform, the Treasurer's Office might brief out the idea 105 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: to media to then gauge how the public responds to 106 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: it before deciding whether or not they pursue it. And separately, 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: there's another reason or why the government might choose to 108 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: brief out to the media, and this could be to 109 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: nurture relationships. It is commonly known that the Prime Minister 110 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: right now has an extremely good relationship with journalists at 111 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: the Australian and so it's often at the moment that 112 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: we see the Australian leading coverage of government announcements. But 113 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: in Victoria, for example, there is an ABC journo who 114 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: is the journal of choice per se, who always knows 115 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the COVID numbers well ahead of everyone else. So it 116 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: could be a matter of nurturing and strengthening relationships between 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: the government and journals. 118 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: Well. One other way that politicians, particularly and journals interact 119 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: is this idea of backgrounding, and we talked about backgrounding 120 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: a lot when Britney Higgins was in the news. Basically, 121 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: backgrounding is when a source talks to a journal on 122 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: backgrounds and that means that the source knows that this 123 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 2: information can be published, but only under conditions, and often 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: those conditions are some sort of vague label placed on 125 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: the source. So a good example could be a senior 126 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: memory of the Prime Minister's Office told the Daily Odds 127 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: that they are amazing. So we know that that information 128 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: came from a reliable source. We just don't know which 129 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: member of the Prime Minister's Office that information came from. 130 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: And more recently than the Brittney Higgins story, Julia Banks, 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: who we spoke about the other day, also claimed that 132 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister's Office backgrounded against her after she announced 133 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: her resignation. 134 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: So what do you mean by backgrounding against somebody? 135 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: So, and this is Julia Banks's own accusation. It has 136 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: not been proven and there has been no investigation into it. 137 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: But what she claimed was that the Prime Minister's Office 138 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: was pursuing a narrative so speaking to journalists about Julia 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: Banks's mental state, basically implying that she had had some 140 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: mental breakdown and that she was as emotional as she 141 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: says delicate flower, and that that's why she was resigning. So, 142 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: according to her, the Prime Minister's Office spoke to journalists 143 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: and ed this narrative so that when she announced her 144 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: resignation it was against that background. 145 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: Even in the last couple of minutes, we've discussed two 146 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: really different examples of briefing out and backgrounding, one to 147 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: seemingly give members of a state the heads up on 148 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: a really massive announcement, and the other to allegedly achieve 149 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: a political aim. It's really interesting to note the different 150 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: ways that journals and politicians interact with each other. Part 151 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: of our mission at the dailyi ODS is to make 152 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: you feel more comfortable with how these systems work and 153 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: give you a little bit of insight into the weird 154 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: ways that journalists and politicians get along. That's all from 155 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: us today. We really appreciate your support. If there's any 156 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: feedback you have for this podcast, we'd love to hear it. 157 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: Slide into our dms on Instagram at the Daily Ods. 158 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: Tell us what you'd like us to explain. We are 159 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: willing to get into the nitty gritty for you and 160 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: we can't wait to take you through the rest of 161 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: the week's news