1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Now it is understood that the Darwin Volunteer Coast Guard 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: is set to close following a decision by the Australian 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Volunteer Coast Guard in July. The National Body wrote to 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: the Darwin Flotilla notifying them of the closure last week, 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: sparking concerns that capabilities on the water are going to 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: be significantly reduced. The Darwin flotilla commander, Simon Dorman joins 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: me on the line right now, get a Simon. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: Good morning. Here you going, Katie? 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Not too bad mate? What's going on? Why does the 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Darwin Volunteer Coastguard have to close? 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: Well, that's the mean dollar question, isn't it. We were 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: left in a little bit of shock as well, having 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: a meeting on last Wednesday. We had that piece of 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: paper that you've probably just read out slid across the 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: table to us and it's gone from there. Basically the 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: next day our bank assets were these and basically all 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: our assets are now in control of the National Board. 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: So when you're saying our services are compromised, our services 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: have seats. They're not compromised. They're not operational as we 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: speak today. 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: So what is this going to mean for Territorians. 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Well, what it's going to mean for Territorians. 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: You're out on the harbor and you break down, you 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: basically rely on the resources of the water police. So 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: that's going to tie them up now from already their 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: business schedule to now come out and find people up 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: creeks or whatever, you know, whatever situation arise. It's now 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: up to them and any other service that services Darwin 29 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: Harbor and in surrounding waterways. 30 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: We look in terms of, you know, the impact that 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: this is going to have for territorians. I mean, just 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: yesterday we were talking about how how many people fish 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory. I've no doubt that the Coast 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Guard has helped so many locals. It's going to be 35 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: a big. 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: Void, exactly exactly. And the thing that gets us is. 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: In the last five years we've received money from the 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: Anti grants. So the Anti government has given us grants 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 3: and our main rescue boat, the Pete Davies, has undergone 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: a total refit. So excuse me if you can imagine say, 41 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: restoring an old car and then getting its Christine condition 42 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: and then just wait to jump in and go for 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: a drive down the highway exactly. Is what happened with 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: Pete Davies. It's now ready to. 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Go, new motives, new everything, and we've just got this 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: notice that we can't even use it. So how devastated 47 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: do we feel? 48 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: So? What like, is this bureaucracy gone mad? What's going on? Look? 49 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: Who knows? 50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: I mean I know that on the East Coast there 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: has been a major shakeup, so I don't know if 52 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: this is part of that. I know it's left everyone 53 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: at coast guarding darn shaken up. So we're just volunteers. 54 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: We're mums and dads our time. We're not after any 55 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: fame or glory or anything like that, and we basically 56 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: we just don't know what to do. I think this 57 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: decision has probably been coming for. 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: A long time. 59 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the flotilla is actually run by and volunteers and 60 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: it always has been, so we're always trying to find funds. 61 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's beggas beliefs. Basically, I've come on lost. 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: For words, and it sounds like it's come as a 63 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: complete surprise, and no doubt I would imagine it's going 64 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: to put additional pressure on our water police. 65 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: Oh you got that right, I mean they're stretched at 66 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: the moment already, So imagine them getting called out to 67 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: go and pull international goodies in and do this and 68 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: do that, and when when there's someone around at Dundee 69 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: or there's someone around in show Bay or whatever, they're 70 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: gonna be over worked now to the max. 71 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: My biggest worry was the grant. 72 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: We've received this money from the anti government, So that's 73 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: you and me paying the government and the government walking 74 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: out taxpayers money to get these vessels up and going 75 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: to save people's lives. 76 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: And now. 77 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what their future holds. 78 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: So simon, you know, I buy the sounds of it 79 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: on this occasion. It's no fault of the government or 80 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: anybody else. This is a decision that's been made by 81 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: the Australian Volunteer Coast Guard exactly. 82 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: It's out of our hands. 83 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 3: This is a decisions and look, when it comes to 84 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: search and rescue, it's not like it's not like you 85 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: break down on the side of the highway in a 86 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: car and you can jump out and walk away or 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: flag down someone to go the lift. This is this 88 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: is out on the water, so if you break down, 89 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: there's no there's no boats right beside you. 90 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: Everyone goes your own way, so you're isolated. 91 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: It's just gonna it's just gonna make things a lot worse. 92 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: It sounds like it. Honestly, it sounds like madness. And 93 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: I tell you what, Pete Davies would not be happy 94 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: that he's not out on the water. I think that 95 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: this is it is. It sounds like it's bureaucracy gone mad. Simon. 96 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Let us see if we can get any kind of 97 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: response from the Australian Volunteer Coast Guard. I just think 98 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: the community's got to stand up here and go hang 99 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: on a second, this is not okay. I'm I'm tipping 100 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: that you know, if if a few of us get 101 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: in contact with them and say, what on earth are 102 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: you doing in Darwin and they get some letters from 103 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: members of the public and maybe even a few of 104 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: our politicians, that they might turn around and reverse this decision. 105 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: Well, I have been in contact and Paul Kirby's are 106 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: a proud supporter of Coast Guard and has been for 107 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: many years. So it is out there and they are 108 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: trying to access avenues of why our assets are going 109 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: maybe going into state like who knows, this could be 110 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: like a truck arrived in the middle of the night 111 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: loads up there our assets and away they go. 112 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well can you please keep in contact 113 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: with us and we'll do our best to contact the 114 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Australian Volunteer co Guard mob as well. 115 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Any assistance would be grateful. Yeah, 116 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: we just don't know where to go. We are all 117 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: volunteers like yep, yeah, well this. 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Is the thing. You're all good people trying to do 119 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: the right thing, trying to help others out on the water, 120 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: and this is what happens. 121 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's time. 122 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: It's time the government anti government put on a big 123 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: boy pants and find out what's going on and help 124 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: us out. 125 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you. I don't 126 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: know if they've got that i'll give. I'll give them 127 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: a loan of my big boy pants, or we can 128 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: give them a loan of yours if you want, you 129 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: know the way, I agree mate, I agree. It is 130 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: like to me, this is just a joke. It sounds 131 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: so ridiculous. You've got the volunteers ready to go, you've 132 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: got the vessel that's needed, you've got everything that's needed. 133 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: So wild on Earth, you know, are you in a 134 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: situation where you can't help other people. 135 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: I think, you know, we all know, okay, but shake 136 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: a lot of things up. 137 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: But since then, you know, like we've lost our demandable Yeah, 138 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: we based homeless. I think I came on your radio 139 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: station a while ago and put out support and I 140 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: did get some fantastic local support yep. 141 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: And but it only goes so far. We need more 142 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: than just the very basics. We pay for everything. 143 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: We have to find our own money to pay for birthing, rent, 144 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: boat maintenance skills, and we do have a couple of sponsors, 145 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: so we're not broke. Our sponsor money is minimal, and 146 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: out of that we have to do boat maintenance, fill 147 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: everything else, all the rents for our two boats, and 148 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: it just it just wears everybody down. And the handful 149 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 3: of volunteers that have been trying to keep display till 150 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: the going have all got volunteer at fatigue, myself included, 151 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: and we have been waving our hands for a long 152 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: time and funding has never been forthcoming for us. 153 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: Well, Simon, we are going to chof off. We've got 154 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: a chough off to the national news. But I really 155 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: appreciate you speaking to me this morning. We'll try our 156 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: best to get in contact with the Australian Volunteer Coast 157 00:08:59,120 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Guard as well. 158 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank