WEBVTT - Froomy’s Wild Formal Story! 💃 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:05.480 The Flex and Frooms Daily podcast brought to you. 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:07.320 Flex and Frooms Podcast Edition. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:12.520 Today's episode is a cautionary tale, one that inspires us 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.239 to love us and almost like recalibrate our brains. I'm 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:20.599 talking about this podcast that I forgot I listened to 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:24.560 months ago, came to me in a vision. Not sure 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.120 what it's called, but I do remember that doctor Anna 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.520 Lemke was a guest and not talking about the effects 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:33.520 that dope mein or in particular overdosing and dope meine 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.519 does to our brain, and interestingly that pain and pleasure 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.320 exist on the same mental. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:45.440 Seesaw, mental seesaw. Okay, let's get into it. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.040 Let's go flex and fs. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.160 It's been about ten years since we were in high school. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:59.240 Yeah, facts maybe eleven eleven for me. Heavy Remember when. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.959 You're in high school thinking, Wow, my ten year reunion, 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.959 going to be married, my have a child. 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:07.840 I'll definitely I'm going to be married with a kid 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:08.640 at twenty six. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:11.120 That was the narrative going around. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.000 And I went to an all girls high school, so 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.840 you can only imagine how just like delusional we all were. 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.360 The shared delusions to scale. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.480 What percentage of girls are married and have. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:26.000 A kid, I'm not that involved. I think more more 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:31.720 than I anticipated. Like I would say my main friend groups, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:36.360 so three of them, I would say, haf are married? 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.240 Far around couldn't. I can't even imagine it. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.880 But it got me thinking about what actually was the 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.000 most demonic high school experience. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.240 What you're thinking about that? 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:48.600 You know what? 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.080 It was? Actually like a gratitude exercise, Like sometimes I 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.280 feel really down about my life or no, I actually 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:53.840 don't feel down. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:54.880 I just feel really stressed. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.800 And I'm like, my life has never been more stressful. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.240 Would you rather feel stressed or down? You sounded happy 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:01.200 about being stressed. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.120 I don't want either. Okay, they go hand in hand 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.480 for me. I get too stressed. I'm freaking out. I'm 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:13.320 getting down. But I had this memory, this moment of 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.399 going back to high school and thinking, oh my god, 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.160 I never have to do that again. And that is 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.080 ask somebody to the formal. 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.160 You did that? Yeah? 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.640 Whoa, yeah, because at our school I went to a 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.840 boy girls school, but the boys had a formal and 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.680 the girls had a formal. So I was like, whoa, 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.200 that feels like a waste of resources. Oh yeah, you're paying, 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.760 You're paying top dollar. Went I went to a school 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.040 which was kind of more like a multinational corporation. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.160 Yeah, kind of vibes that's the way you're for the corporates. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.280 How much think you paid. I think we paid like 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.120 one fifty ahead maybe, yeah, probably something similar. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:50.560 Yeah, and yeah, just the thought of actually needing to 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.680 ask somebody in that social setting, I think it's more 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.160 intense than asking someone to marry you. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.480 Did you was it customary to ask someone from the 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.800 boys side of your school? 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:03.360 Wait? 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.200 You boys were in your class but you had separate formals. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.919 Yes, no, boys weren't in my class. This is like 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.120 a very convoluted way of this saying the story. But 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.560 essentially we had play lunch and lunch with boys, but 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:19.160 then just didn't have boys in the classroom, like separate classes. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:19.880 It was. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:20.480 It was weird. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.320 I think I get what they're doing there to like 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.800 normalize the idea that you can interact with other people. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:29.600 Yes, it's called parallel learning. Oh anyway, thank you. So, yes, 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.799 we had some interaction with the boys, but not enough 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.520 to like, you've still got to put your neck out 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.720 to find someone to go to formal with you. Of course, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.840 some anxious avoidance. So I didn't have a boyfriend in 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:38.440 high school. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:39.880 Anxious avoidance. 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.880 That's that's so much is going on in this segment. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.120 I feel like, anyway, I asked a guy to my 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.240 formal from the year above. He was like the last 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:53.400 person that was that was free and why they do 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:53.960 them like that? 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.920 And I just remember being so stressed about it. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:01.160 How did you ask? 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:02.800 I think on. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:06.920 Facebook messenger or no messenger? 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.000 Yeah, I actually probably find the message you want to 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:11.960 do that you actually will right now? 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.520 Yeah, okay, I guess you haven't said much to him since. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.120 Not at all. So we actually spoke a lot. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.320 Now I'm he's like a secret boyfriend and are looking 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.240 back like, actually, I think we did date. Actually he 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:26.560 was the love of my life. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:32.600 Talking about the recession. Now we're talking about Rangers, studio arts. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:37.159 What have we been doing these holidays? One legged horse? 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:38.799 You seem compatible? 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.799 He actually was quite funny anyway. 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.480 He said in twenty thirteen, Lucy, you're gone to Hollywood 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.839 yet Golden Globes, And I said, no, I'm stilling out Waverley, 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.640 but I do want to go to Hollywood. 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:52.360 So you're not going to find the message. 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.240 I can't remember, can't remember the coolest thing ever was 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.280 he had an injury to his arm, so we had 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.000 this like bionic armshell over his arm. So in all 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.000 the photos we're po together two little friends, like absolutely 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:02.760 no chemistry. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.520 Calm down, don't air him like that. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.960 So you said he was funny and when he's holding 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.240 me this little bionic. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.240 L that's hot and sweet. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:16.280 It was very twenty twenty two, so there was no 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.120 romantic element for the whole thing. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.360 You didn't like, have a little chicky kiss. Nah, pretty sure. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.039 I had a boyfriend at how you invite Tyler not 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.440 your own boyfriend. My boyfriend was like twenty five. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:30.800 Oh yeah, this one surf diavon Ski thongs to the wedding. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.440 So yeah, I don't want to say anything. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.479 Because I'm absolutely demonic. And if you're currently in school 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:38.760 and you got school form more coming. 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.200 Up, don't worry. Life cats better. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:46.520 Oh okay, this is flex and frooms on kDa. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:53.920 I have been gagging. That is fairer, but I guess 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:54.400 I started. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:57.359 I've been gagging to tell you about this, so I 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:04.040 mentioned earlier that I know enough for me, stop it gagging. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:05.760 I can't take that seriously. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.120 I hate to use my mind's I yet again, but 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.680 I can't hear the word gagging without picturing things I 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:11.520 wish not to picture. 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.720 Really, yes, when I say the word gagging, I think 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:15.840 of brushing my tongue. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.040 I'm thinking about the tongue, mean brush? 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:21.919 Whose dad did we know? I do this? 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:25.520 Anyway? 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.760 So I found that for the last month or so, 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.840 when I get up in the morning, I feel really 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.640 overstimulated and overwhelmed when I listen to music, listen to podcasts, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:37.800 which is unusual because I. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:38.800 Used to be my morning routine. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.760 You get up, put on music straight away, go to 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.520 the bathroom, take a shower, get ready. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.960 Music is a car music. When I land wherever I am, 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.080 just music with me with them. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.000 Then I think, I don't know what happened, maybe the 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.080 weather change, and so I got gloomy and I was like, 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.320 I just need a second with my thoughts or Bettyett 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.279 with nothing, no stimulation. 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:58.159 It all needs to stop. 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.839 So these days I've been get up using my phone 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.479 as an alarm and then putting it down, doing the 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.200 whole getting ready process without it. And when I get 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.000 into the car, obviously is my gtail. Yeah on my phone. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.160 I start my car and then I do my daily 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.200 rounds and then I do no music, which feels a 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.040 bit Patrick Bateman of me, and then I just drive 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.239 to where I'm going, no music, no sound, windows down, 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:25.440 empty head. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.679 And what I'm finding. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.400 Is that it's actually working well in terms of me 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:35.400 easing into stimulation and easing into the day, because usually 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.440 I find that the first thing that I interact with 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.200 in terms of like the type of music I'm listening 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.960 to or the news article I read, sets up the 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.800 tone of my day, and sometimes in ways I'm not 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.560 prepared for, Like I listened to something really hard and 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:48.880 be like, oh, I'm having the best day. 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:50.360 No, you just stimulate it. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.120 So now that I'm listening to no music, no stimulation whatever, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.560 and easing into the day, it's making me feel much 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.800 more aware of my body and how much anxiety I 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.200 just carry regularly that I was just drowning out with tech. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:10.680 It gets better. I was listening to a podcast months 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:15.200 ago about this thing called dope mean overdose, and it's 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:16.960 I guess what you would imagine, the fact that we're 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.440 so inundated with so many different forms of things are 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.000 going to spike out dope mean that it gets really 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:25.400 difficult for your brain to level out what is an 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.520 appropriate response to something that would. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:28.600 Regularly give you heaps of dope mean. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:30.920 So if once before, like I don't know if you 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.760 remember or if you were using TikTok back in twenty twenty, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.920 but I used to use that app and laugh at 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:41.040 every video. I was like, this is hilarious, goblin mode. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.440 I could not we're all laughing. Two years later you 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.240 are here a peep out of me. It's just not 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:51.280 getting the same And it's a cultural thing because people say, well, 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.200 TikTok change, it hasn't You just got used to getting 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:59.199 laughter on tap incessantly. And so in a second, I 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:00.920 want to talk to you about This podcast was listened 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.880 to a couple of months ago, all about Don't Mean 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:08.280 Overdose by doctor Anna Lemk Real Doctor, Real, Doctor Good, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:13.880 who talks about how dope mean is inextricably linked to 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.000 pain and pleasure. 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:21.040 Hectic, Yes, so don't mean overdose? How do you define 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:22.560 that the. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.040 Phrase dope mean overdose? 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.360 I'm just making it a I don't really think it's 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.080 an overdose in the traditional sense. I'm just saying we 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:34.079 just have too much of the thing. This person basically, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.000 so that using social media can lead to a physical 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.040 and psychological addiction because it triggers the brain's reward system 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.600 to release. Don't mean, of course, dope mean is actually 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:42.520 a neurotransmitter. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:43.280 No, we don't need that. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.559 So this podcast, I need to find out what it's called. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:49.800 But I can't only remember the doctor's name. It's not 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.280 her podcast. She was just a guest, but she was 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.120 talking about the dope mean sea saw and how it's 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:56.800 inextricably linked to pain and pleasure. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:57.400 Listen to this. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.560 Our brain fights to restore the balance to dope mean 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.720 in our brains. In our brain, we have a balance 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.280 system like a sea saw in a playground. So remember 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:10.040 that seesaw two ends, like when one end goes down here, 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.640 then it goes up vice versa. So when we experience pleasure, 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.040 it tips one way, when we experience pain it tips 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:17.600 the other way. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.200 It's all making sense. Yes. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.200 One of the fundamental rules is that it wants to 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.840 remain level. So with any deviation from neutrality, the brain 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.560 will work very hard to restore balance, which is homeostasis. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.400 The reason why you don't have to think to blink, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:36.560 or to breathe or to cough. Your brain just does that. So, 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.280 for example, having a piece of chocolate or a glass 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.400 of wine will provide a tip to the side of 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:42.040 pleasure and. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:42.840 A release of dope. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.120 Mean, but as soon as that's happened, our brain adapts 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.920 to that phenomenon by down regulating our dope receptors and 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.959 transmitters a little like a gremlin hopping on the pain 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.400 side of the seasort to balance it out. So that's 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.040 the reason why every time you do something and it 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:57.960 feels really good, gets to the point where it doesn't 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.800 feel good anymore. Like you eat something you really like, 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.720 gorge yourself, now you're in pain and you're like, ah, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.640 don't anymore. Or when you sleep too long before you 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.800 know it was really comfy. Now your back hurts and 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.559 like you be uncomfort crazy d yes, and so recognizing 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.800 that as soon as you're tipping the sea swaw to 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.240 one side, little goblins in your body and brain are like, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.720 we got to do work. We need balance at all times. 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.400 So the challenge is with little gremlin goblins is that 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:28.080 they lack balance and they stay on there until balance 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.520 is tipped in equal and opposite amounts to the side 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.719 of pain. This is called the opponent process reaction, and 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.160 this is the moment when we want another piece of chocolate, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:42.040 another glass of wine, another little cheesyburger grew. However, if 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.000 we wait long enough, the gremlin hops off and balance 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.160 is restored. But if we continue to consume in even 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.040 larger amounts to overcome the tolerance, then the gremlins multiply 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.360 and we're in a dope mein deficit state with the 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.439 balance of the seas or tipping to the side of pain. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.760 So if you don't naturally stop yourself from over indulging 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:05.040 so the balance goes to level, then the little goblin gremlins, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.440 the ones that live on pain side, will be more 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.560 of their mates over. Hey, she's not listening. We need 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.280 to help her out. Bring more pain, bring more discomfort 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.360 so she knows it's time to stop. Is the pain 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.920 just physical in this we'll get to it, okay, because 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:25.160 pain can be just think the opposite of pleasure for 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.000 whatever you're dealing with. So pain in the context of 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.840 social media usage is working harder to get a laugh 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:33.199 or a response. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:34.280 Okay. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:39.600 So now we need to keep drinking, not to feel 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.760 good but just to feel normal. Yes, Or we need 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.520 to keep eating terribly not to feel good, but just 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:49.280 to feel normal. When we stop using the balance tips 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.400 hard to the side of pain and brings on irritability, anxiousness, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.240 bad sleep, I eat, a withdrawal of some kind because 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.439 we're talking about addiction, overdosing that whole thing. So this 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.280 is what Anna Lemki, who an MD at Stanford, was 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.680 explaining to us. And so if you use this in 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.880 the context of like social media or our phone usage 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.600 or internet usage, we're not even using our devices now 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.880 to feel good. We're just using them to sustain a 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:19.520 level of like comfort or entertainment, just to get. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:20.760 To a point of feeling normal. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.840 And if like twelve hour day's screen time is what 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.079 we need to feel normal, how much you think you'll 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:31.280 need to start feeling fantastic amazing? And also what I 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.360 did learn but this is from TikTok, so it's not 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:37.360 fact checked or sided. Is that the first dope mean 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:41.760 spike you have for the day sets up the relative 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.200 dope mean spikes for the rest of the day. So 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.040 if you peek in the morning by going from sleeping, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:51.960 resting state to like that TikTok, then your brain's like, okay, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.199 we're trying to catch that high for the rest. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:54.360 Of the day. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:58.559 But you cannot and that's really because yeah, allegedly who's 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.040 this guy? I don't know, but sound w going from 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.920 zero to one hundred. You can't sustain that, so you crash. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:10.080 So what they're saying is like, ease into it, entertainment, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.480 indulgence or whatever, so at least you can sustain it 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.760 for longer and have more control over it. 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.720 Apparently interesting, has it making you feel? 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.160 I'm just wondering how it works with people who have 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.240 actual addictions, Like, is that how addictions start? 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.120 No, because it's like a this is like a euphemism. Okay, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.040 it's a phrase they view so we can understand the 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:33.120 concept a little bit better. 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:33.640 But I don't. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.200 It's a look addictions. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.320 And there is social media addiction. 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:38.640 Do we have it? 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.080 Probably? But I think I don't think it's comparative to. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.480 Alcoholism in the same way, Like it is an addiction 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.360 of some sort and you have withdrawals and you want 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.600 to consume the substance, but we're not like having the 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:53.280 shakes and shit. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.440 Yeah facts, hmm, food for thought. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:58.640 I mean, let it simmer. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.400 I'm still trying to figure out up how I'm meant 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.480 to like apply what we're learning, But I'm gonna keep 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.600 learning and come back to you. In the meantime. Try 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.240 to not use your phone when you first wake up. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:12.360 See it feels you're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kita. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.520 This is a segment I call frum his face where 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.960 I bring in some food. It's usually like a pasta 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.160 based dish for FLEXI to try. More often than not, 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.360 she will refuse to eat it, or if she does 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.280 eat it, she'll come in with a closed mind and 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:24.880 roast meat. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:26.400 That's not true. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.120 I have eaten cold rosotto for you, and everybody knows 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.600 I like my rice, our dentate undercooked. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:32.960 Well, this is the thing. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.600 I made this lasami last night, and I purposely didn't 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.080 cook it all the way through because I thought you'd 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.520 like the sheets nice and. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.320 That's really sweet. I don't feel like eating. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.560 That's okay. I won't force you to do anything, but. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.040 Tell us about it. Do you have any tips? 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.440 I do actually have tips, because with this segment, I 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.760 try to come in with some sort of like cooking 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.400 helpful moment tip because you're a Michelin star ches. Some 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.040 would say definitely gearing up, like I definitely. When I 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.120 have my own show, I want to have a cooking 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.080 sex for sure. That's got to be a big part 0:15:59.080 --> 0:15:59.320 of it. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:15:59.920 Gordon Sha. 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.920 Before we started working together twenty twenty, I devised this 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.280 show called Froom's World, and you were going to be 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:06.920 one of the guests. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:08.000 So that'll happen. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.320 It's happening that it is happening. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:15.160 AnyWho. Lasagna. I was making veggie lasagna walking around the supermarket. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.320 There's no spinach. Oh, there wouldn't be in this Dayna. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.760 Zucchini's twelve dollars fifty a kilogram? 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.080 How many zucchini's gonna killer? You reckon? 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.400 Two? No? 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:25.040 Three? 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:26.120 Ten? 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.640 Whoa? That seems like a good deal. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.080 Yeah, oh well I got two and it came in. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.560 Wait, how big is zucchini? I'm thinking this big. I 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.840 think a cucumber. I think cucumbers are heavier. Zuccini is 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.600 a kind of light, but they're bulky vibes. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.400 Anyway, So no spinach, you didn't get any Well. 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:46.080 This is my hack. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:46.600 Okay. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:52.920 The lasagna that I made called for not cottage cheese, ricotta, ricotta, 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.680 and spinach, so spinach was definitely necessary. 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:57.600 I was like, where am I gonna get the speech? 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.000 I'm gonna have to go to the other supermarket. 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:05.200 No, go to the freezer ale you dummy frozen spinach chunks. Yes, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.680 for smoothies, yeap, because as we know, we all need 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:09.600 our leafy greens. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.640 But there's none that the souper market right now. Who 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:12.399 would have ever thought? 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.159 But there is some apparently independent grosses. A lot of 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:16.600 them are covering the charge. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.280 Okay, small business, A small business owner, she got a 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.440 bitch share in IgA. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:24.080 Nah. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.200 But if you can't go to your local independent, ready, Taylor, 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.760 go to the frozen You've got frozen cakes. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:33.199 Support the corporation you can't get down to your local. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.240 I'm a fresh fruit person and that's all I'll say. So, Yeah, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.600 frozen spinach works for most things. You just drain it 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.919 under hot water. And that's actually a fun thing to 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.040 do because you got to like mushed up with your fingers. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.439 That's a great hack. And how was it? 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.040 On a scale of one to ten? This is a 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.600 bit like the dope mean thing. I was eating a 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.600 loan last night, so, as you can imagine, it got 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.280 a little bit out of hand. Oh, Corley, Yeah, I 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.679 gorged on lasagna, so I would say first serving delicious, 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:03.840 second serving. 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:05.720 I couldn't finish it. 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.760 By the third I didn't actually go that far. Maybe 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.320 we'll try it, try it like that a lot. I 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.480 also do like your commitment to cooking. I think it's 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.440 going to serve you well till Kingdom come or something. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:17.840 WiFi. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.120 This is flex and froomsa FLEXI. 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.480 I know that you are obsessed with many things. We 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.879 have hashed it over on multiple episodes. I know that 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.720 you like technology and you're not afraid to talk about death. 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.240 One of the first experiences we had working together was 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.160