1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Now I always love hearing about great things happening in 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory and an innovative Darwin business is planning 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: to manufacture and commercialize unique water purification systems. They're then 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: going to be used by the Australian Defense personnel in 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: military operations as well as disaster response and humanitarian aid efforts. 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Now Life h. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Two and the Northern Territory Government are co investing two 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: point five million dollars in the project, allowing the company 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: to scale up, creating fifteen full time jobs over the 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: next five years. And the founder joins me in the 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: studio right now, Charlie Feros. 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Morning. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: I've just had a bit of an issue with my 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: microphone there, Charlie. I'm not too sure what's gone on. 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to try and sort that out 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: very quickly. Just bear with me a moment. I don't 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: think I'm going to be able to sort that one out, 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: So Charlie, if I can, I might just get you 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: to pop over there. Nothing like a bit of behind 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: the scenes while we're on air. Let's try that again. 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: Good morning, Charlie, Good morning Katie. How are you. 23 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: I've been better my microphones to smallen off its off 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: the desk. 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: But don't worry about that now. 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: Charlie tell us a little bit more about this project. 27 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 4: Well, we're a family owned business, an innovative startup, and 28 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: we've created be working with this trained Defense Force on 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: a concept to fill capability gaps. So basically, at present, 30 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: the ADF have large scale, containerized water treatment systems and 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: nothing below that. So we've there's been a lot of 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: instances where we've spoken to excerving members that have dealt 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: with major events such as the tsunami in Java and 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: places like that, and they've admitted that they've had all 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: this great equipment, i haven't been able to get it 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: in all the heavy equipment into where it was needed. 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 4: So we've actually developed off grid man portable water purification 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: equipment that can travel with you know, travel with men 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: or on light vehicles, or be air dropped all that 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 4: sort of stuff. 41 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: And look, it sounds like pretty phenomenal stuff because, as 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: you've said there, you know, in some of these situations, 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about defense or whether you're talking about 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: humanitarian aid situation, you would need to make this process 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: pretty mobile and be able to get it there. Really 46 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: rather quickly, you know, even if you're talking about a 47 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: tsunami that needs to happen pretty fast, doesn't it. 48 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: And the current response in a lot of areas is 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: to use bottle water, so goodles a bottle of water, 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: which obviously creates a plastic waste issue and all that 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: sort of stuff. So if you've got light, you know, 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: self sustaining equipment for floods, for cyclones or a lot 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: of events, then you've got a lot of water, but 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 4: you can't drink it. Yeah, we can actually treat the 56 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: water on site and be able to administer that water 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: without having the logistic movements and the plastic waste and 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: all that. 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: Now, Madam'm not expecting you to share your trade secrets, 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: but how exactly does this system, like, how does it 61 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: sort of work? 62 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 4: Basically, there's a Yeah, I won't get into the technicalities, 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 4: you'll probably fall asleep on me. Yeah, basically, we've taken 64 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: a number of different processes to be able to treat virtually. 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: Any type of water. So you know, borewater the in the. 66 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: Territory, or surface water or seawater can be all dealt 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: within the one system. So, for example, the first Combat 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: Engineer Regiment have had systems in service for the last 69 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: two years and they've deployed overseas to team or and 70 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: dealt with salt water or they've had exercises with the 71 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: US Marines out in Bradshaw, YEP where they're dealing with 72 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: you know. 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: Pretty bad boarwater. 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: I'm told I've actually been thanked by a lot of 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: the serving members out there saying that the water quality 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: was much better when they were using my system. 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: And so the systems obviously already in place in a 78 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: number of locations, is that. 79 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So we've worked directly with the first Combat Engineer 80 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: Regiment at Robinson. The idea was to take the pain 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: early and do a user based design, where we're designing 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: system with the boots on the ground they have to 83 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 4: use it. So that does a lot of things as well, 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: where it creates barriers to entry as well, because we're 85 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: fit for purpose systems for the people who need to 86 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: administer the technology and use the capability. 87 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: So really trying to make it as practical as possible 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: by the sounds of things. 89 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 4: That's right, Yeah, and we can translate into many different 90 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: sectors as well. And you know, obviously you know people 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: have thrown scenarios at me for remote communities. Obviously, ecotourism 92 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: in remote locations as well. What tends to make the 93 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 4: grain nomads move on is. 94 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: The water quality. 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: If you want them to stay lone, you improve the water. Yeah, 96 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 4: so we've got there's a long way to go. That way, 97 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 4: we can even move into We've had talks with government 98 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: and others about water. Pure water or deionized water is 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 4: a crucial element for hydrogen production as well, so we're 100 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: able to achieve that also. 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: Now, how did you come up with this concept? 102 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: How did you decide that you were you know that 103 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: you were going to go down this path. You're having 104 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: a couple of beers and thought, I'm going to come 105 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: up with a purification process for water that's mobile. 106 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: Years and years ago. 107 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: I used to when I was a fitter man. I 108 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: used to do a lot of checking in South America 109 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: and things like that. And if you're on a three 110 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 4: or a week long track, you can't carry enough water 111 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: to sustain yourself. So you need to be able to 112 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 4: use methods to treat water. So I guess that's where 113 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: the fascination started. And then I used to spend my 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 4: previous career was in property development where we dealt with 115 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: water quality, leaving development sites and things like that. 116 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: So I worked. 117 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: Closely with environmental engineers and the like, mentioning the drinks. 118 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 4: The Probably the move to Darwin was probably over a 119 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 4: few too many red wines with my wife, my lovely 120 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: wife who supports all my hair brain schemes. Yeah, we 121 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: sort of recognized my wife's from South America, South Africa. 122 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm from regional Australia. 123 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: And you know, you can build a kilometer high skyscraper 124 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: in Jubai, you can take a passenger flight into space. Yeah, 125 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: but not every man, woman and child on the planet 126 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: can have clean access to clean drinking water. So we 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: feel that that is a bit of a failure. 128 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: On mankind's past. 129 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 130 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: And for my little three year old turns around one 131 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: day and says, we love what mum and dad did 132 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: with life. 133 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: H two A. That would be that would be absolutely fantastic. 134 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: Good on you guys. It sounds like an incredible concept. 135 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: And then you know, being able to actually put this 136 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: into practice, particularly in some of those humanitarian AIDS situations, 137 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's a fantastic thing to do. Tell me, 138 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: like at the moment, again understanding that you're running a 139 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: business and that there is some stuff you can't go into. 140 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: But whereabouts are you currently sort of doing this? Do 141 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: you have a number of you know, of the purification 142 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: systems already in place around the territory. 143 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: Mainly in defense at the moment. 144 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: And we've just the announcement from the Chief Minister on 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: Monday was enabled us to move in last month to 146 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: a larger. 147 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: Facility at Winnelly the golf center. 148 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, we're actually creating a production facility there and 149 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: we've already started creating a handful of jobs and where 150 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: you hope to move that forward and gain a lot 151 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: more momentum. 152 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: Well, all the very best. 153 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Like I say, I think it sounds like a wonderful thing, 154 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, to be able to do that, And as 155 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: you pointed out that you know it is so it's 156 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: so bizarre, isn't it that you can have a building 157 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: that's a kilometer high, but we can't have drinking water 158 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: for everybody. 159 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: So it does sound like a fantastic thing to be doing. 160 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming into the studio this morning 161 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: and having a chat to us about it. 162 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: Thanks very much. 163 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks so much,