1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm really reaching out to the LGBTQI community here because 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: I want to know people who have hid this sexuality 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: or their gender, no matter for how long? 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: What do you cover up stories? 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: How long did it go on for, how hectic was it, 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: what lengths did you go to? And like, I know, 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: this is obviously probably the most hectic time in your life, 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: So I realized it's a pretty sensitive thing. 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: To be sharing. 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Caitlyn Jenna has been on I'm selebt to get Me 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: out of Here in the UK talking about a time where, yeah, 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: as he said, or she was Bruce Jenner for thirty 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: years and she would go out in these outfits and 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: stuff and then have to come up with hurried stories 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: for what she was actually doing. 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: A cross dress running around all that kind of show. 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: She's cross dress in your car, jove around town. I 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: had at that time a turbo Porsche and it was 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: like a day before Halloween and this car pulls up 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: beside me and it's my next door neighbor. How'll just 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: start that one out, I said, I just wonder a 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: Halloween party. 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: Quite quick thinking actually from amazingly quick thinking, but geez, 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: imagine doing that the whole time We've got Taylor, who's 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: called on thirty and one six five. 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: Taylor, what's your story? 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: Hi, I'm fairly young, so I'm eighteen at the moment, 28 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: and as a kid, I would watch TV as my family, right, yeah, 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: so like just to give you a picture, like ta 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: wolfs and stuff. Yeah, So they'd always point out, like 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: due today, thought that we're attractive, and they say, hey, Taylor, 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 4: do you do you like this person? Is that I'm 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 4: just attractive to you? And I just go yeah, yeah, whatever, 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: just to keep keep them off track, leave them away 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 4: from the thought that I may or may not be straight, 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: or that I may or may not be by I 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: mean anyway. 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, when I did come out finally to my parents, 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: I had aversation with my dad and he was just like, oh, yeah, 41 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: you really threw off the curveball when you said that 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: you like to fill it O'Brien, and I was like, yeah, 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: that's kind of the point. I just threw riddom names 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: at them. 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: You would just say that you like this person and 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: that person. Taylor. 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Wow, I can't imagine doing that. Thank you so much 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: for the call, and I hope you're feeling a lot 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: more comfortable now we've got Sky here on third and 50 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: one oh six ' five. Sky, you're a lesbian, yes, correct? Okay, 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: welcome to the show, Thanks for joining us. We're talking 52 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: about people having to hide their sexuality or their gender. 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: This is about your partner, though she had a cover 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: up story. 55 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 5: Yes, correct. So back before they transitioned from male to female, 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: they used to order clothes to their family house. 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: And if they were caught or if they wanted to 59 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 5: know what the package was, they used to say it 60 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 5: was for me, so their family didn't know what was 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: for themselves. 62 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, So how long was this going on? 63 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 3: Force? 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: Sky? 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 5: Probably like true use, maybe a little bit longer. 66 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, were the ever in any fight? Sky when 67 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: the clothes were particularly good and she's using you as 68 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: the excuse, was there a fight they were? Well, hang 69 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: on a second, maybe I deserve the pants very lucky. 70 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 5: We're both kind of the same size, so we just 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: kind of swap out stuff. 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah right right. 73 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 74 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: I always thought that would be super handy being in 75 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: a same sex relationship. 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: You can share clothes, Sky, can I can I ask 77 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: you so your partner did you say transitioned from a 78 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: man to a woman? 79 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: And that's why it was they were in that period. 80 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: Is that what you're talking about? 81 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? Correct, So they're still going through the process now, 82 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: but they were originally male and they're now female. 83 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: So you met them as a man. 84 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, within the first month, they told me that 85 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 5: they wanted to be female. 86 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: So were you heterosexual when you met them? 87 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 5: Though not necessarily? I actually didn't one hundred percent know 88 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 5: what gender they were. 89 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Okay, right, and then they were a guy and they 90 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: wanted to become a woman, and then you just love 91 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: them so much that you just wanted to stay with them. 92 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much. 93 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: That's so nice. And what's been the hard can I? 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: Sorry? Guy? 95 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: I sorry to delve into It's just I think it's 96 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty amazing that because I'd find that 97 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: really hard obviously as a heterosexual. But what's been the 98 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: hardest part about the whole transition? Like, is it has 99 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: it been difficult at all? Is it has it been. 100 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 5: A it's hard to tout and downs. Probably the hardest 101 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 5: part is watching them come out as obviously wanting to 102 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 5: be female to their family and their friends, and watching 103 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 5: some relationships that just couldn't take it. That's probably the 104 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: hardest part sitting there as a partner being like, I 105 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 5: can't do anything about this, but I still. 106 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: Love you so so and are they a completely different person, 107 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: like are they just forgetting who they were before in 108 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, the things that they'd associate with 109 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: as a guy. 110 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: Is have they got a new name, et cetera. 111 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 5: So they do change names, but it's very very similar 112 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 5: to than yeah, yeah, their birthname. Sorry. Yeah, in regards 113 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 5: to everything else, they kind of already had a very 114 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 5: could be female male. 115 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: Style, So that was pretty That was all right, okay, but. 116 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 5: They still kind of have these moments that there like 117 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 5: I don't like how I'm talking, I don't like how 118 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: I'm acting, I'm too masculine. Yeah, they struggle with. 119 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, R Scott, thanks so much for sharing. Yeah, 120 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: thank you, and yeah, yeah, good luck with the rest 121 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: of the transition. 122 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're yeah, I think you. 123 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 124 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: It says a lot about you. 125 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I think if you meet somebody and they say they 126 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: want to change their gender and you're like, I'm one 127 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: hundred percent and you guys have obviously got something pretty 128 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: special between you. 129 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: So thanks for sharing. Mate, really appreciate a lot of 130 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: problem Scott see what you're hearing. 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