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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day says goodbye to

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Speaker 1: her cooking app. Olivia Rodgers is set to tell us

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Speaker 1: more Taylor Swift's lyric change up, and Kayla at Zenas

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Speaker 1: is the reluctant hen Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's

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Speaker 1: your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kate Torbert and it's feeling quite lonely in here.

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Speaker 1: It's just you and me, Amy. It is poor Sophie.

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Speaker 1: She's been struck down by what she thinks is COVID.

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Speaker 1: She's not testing positive, so it could be some random

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Speaker 1: thing that's going around. Everyone seems to be sick at

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Speaker 1: the moment. I know, it's terrible. She did miss out

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Speaker 1: on a really good weekend though, because our business, Hula Media,

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Speaker 1: we do the pr for the Handpicked Festival in South

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Speaker 1: Australia and it was finally back after COVID after storms

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Speaker 1: and I was down there filming all day. I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 1: You forget what a big day some of these music

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Speaker 1: festivals are. You must be shattered because you got home

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Speaker 1: really late and then you stayed up editing to like

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Speaker 1: three am. Yeah, Well it was all worth it. Because

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Speaker 1: Melcy from The Spice Scales was DJing, which I think

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Speaker 1: was the most random thing I've ever seen, but it

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Speaker 1: was so cool. Over the weekend, I was actually watching

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Speaker 1: the Robbie Williams doco Have you seen that? On Netflix?

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Speaker 1: I really want to? It is pretty good. I think

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Speaker 1: he would be disappointed that it came out just after

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Speaker 1: the Beckham one because it's not up to that standard.

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Speaker 1: But I just thought of it then because Jerry Halliwell

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Speaker 1: was in it and I didn't realize that they were

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Speaker 1: an item for a couple of months. So she makes

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Speaker 1: a feature in the doco. I was tossing up weather

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Speaker 1: it was time to put on a Christmas movie, but

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Speaker 1: I don't have my tree up, so I don't feel

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Speaker 1: it's appropriate. However, I am in the Christmas spirit because

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Speaker 1: Reese actually put lights on our house last night. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. Because Reese is not a grinch, but it's

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Speaker 1: more you have to inject the Christmas spirit into your house. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked. He actually suggested it and he got

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Speaker 1: up on the roof. It's quite funny. I put it

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Speaker 1: on my Instagram story. He looked like Clark Gruswold from

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Speaker 1: Lampoon's Christmas vacation. That looks so dangerous. So for those

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Speaker 1: who haven't seen it, he's basically lying on the top

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Speaker 1: put the lights on the house. Wouldn't you've used a ladder.

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Speaker 1: It's actually sparked him to be more competitive and actually

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Speaker 1: go and buy more lights. And he's already ordering. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I want some candy canes that come up this path,

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Speaker 1: and I want a projector onto the garage. Well I

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Speaker 1: did tell Dale, I said, be prepared. Kate and Reese

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Speaker 1: have already started putting up lights. We need to get

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Speaker 1: our act together. If you've ever said the sentence I

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Speaker 1: cannot do a chin up, I'm going to get you there.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Over the weekend, Kayla had seen us was

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Speaker 1: the reluctant hen, so despite telling her bridal party that

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Speaker 1: she didn't want to celebrate her hens, she ended up

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Speaker 1: caving and having an intimate hen celebration in Adelaide. So

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Speaker 1: she wrote over the weekend, I'm so weird like that.

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Speaker 1: I'd happily do nothing and not complain once haha, but

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Speaker 1: I did it. I found this really refreshing for someone

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Speaker 1: like Kayla to actually come out and say that she

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Speaker 1: didn't want to celebrate her HENS. I get it after

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Speaker 1: having my HENS. I mean, I was obviously keen to

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Speaker 1: it feels all a bit weird. I wonder if that's

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Speaker 1: that's what it was. Well, I suppose with us being triplets.

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Speaker 1: I actually said that at my hands that I don't

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Speaker 1: so I found it rather daunting. I do think some

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Speaker 1: And I think HENS parties are so synonymous now with

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Speaker 1: someone that doesn't do that to work out what to do.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like there has been a bit of

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Speaker 1: go guarding. Yeah. I definitely think there is a push

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Speaker 1: as Kayla's sister put on an epic platter. I was

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Speaker 1: I don't think it was his bucks. There wasn't a

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Speaker 1: just reminds me of Sof and Brandon, because Brandon was

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Speaker 1: saying how he wants to meet up with Sofa after

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Speaker 1: I did love that Kayla opted for pants for her

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Speaker 1: Hen's party. So, for those who haven't seen the photo,

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Speaker 1: she had these beautiful white linen pants on and this

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Speaker 1: come across as really relatable even though she is a

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Speaker 1: her sister Leah online as well. So Leah was in

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Speaker 1: it's just because they're Adelaide girls. I've got a spot

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Speaker 1: for them. Yeah. Well, Leah actually ended up wearing this

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Speaker 1: Leah ended up sharing a photo of Kayla looking down

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Speaker 1: at her with her sunglasses tilted and wrote, if I'm honest, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I think she secretly liked it with laughing faces. Kayla

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Speaker 1: I'm just impressed that Kayla got dressed up for her hens.

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Speaker 1: Though she could have done a meet and just done

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Speaker 1: a tennis theme so she could wear active. Yeah. True,

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Speaker 1: I wonder could she possibly do what her sister did

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Speaker 1: around the eleventh of December. My name is Olivia Molly Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Tell Me More. Olivia Rodgers has announced

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Speaker 1: she's launching a new podcast, tell Me More. She revealed

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Speaker 1: So one of the headlines said new podcasts set to

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Speaker 1: launch this month tell us More, while another confirmed the

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Speaker 1: date of the podcast launching, which is the twenty first

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Speaker 1: was dropping Easter egg clues. Like Taylor Swift, like you

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Speaker 1: didn't really have to put them together. Yeah, but there

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Speaker 1: were other headlines which said candid conversations about grief and

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Speaker 1: another one that said from Surviving to Thriving, So it

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Speaker 1: kind of tells you a bit more of what kind

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Speaker 1: There was also a picture of a figure which appears

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Speaker 1: a caption with exclusive guests. The whole phone thing made

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Speaker 1: me think that she'll be giving advice on topics that

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Speaker 1: another podcast with an influencer interviewing her famous friends. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: of November, However, she's done the announcement nine days earlier.

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Speaker 1: So normally, in terms of a marketing strategy, you'd want

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Speaker 1: it's just a little teaser of it. Yeah, So I

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Speaker 1: feel like maybe she's been pushed to announce this based

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Speaker 1: about her relationship ending with Morgan Waterhouse. Maybe she's kind

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Speaker 1: next week they'll put out more of a teaser video

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Speaker 1: which actually makes people want to click on it. For example,

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Speaker 1: teaser piece where she teases about the relationship. So maybe

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Speaker 1: though that doesn't immediately like work. You know, you want

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Speaker 1: then have a call to action. Like the staggered approach,

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Speaker 1: this is part of a Shameless media production. I don't

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Speaker 1: a week. I did have a laugh when I read that,

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Speaker 1: recipes so some weeks that it will be something really

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Speaker 1: simple like avocado on toast. In hindsight, it was pretty

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Speaker 1: surprising that she committed to three recipes a week because

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Speaker 1: I think every month for every couple of months, with

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Speaker 1: is quite baffling. Well, I wonder if this will now

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Speaker 1: more sense, But I don't think she will because she

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Speaker 1: said that she wants to work very much project based

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Speaker 1: in the background that she's doing. Let's be real, she

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Speaker 1: obviously makes a shit ton of money by releasing her

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Speaker 1: ebooks and then obviously this cooking book, and it must

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Speaker 1: be so much more beneficial for her to do it

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Speaker 1: as a one off project. If literally she could be like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I want a new house, so I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: release an ebook and that's how much money she'd make. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or a second cookbook that would probably sell out straight away.

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Speaker 1: You think about how much time and resources and money

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Speaker 1: you'd have to put into an app compared to printing

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Speaker 1: a cookbook yourself. I'd also love to know how many

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Speaker 1: subscribers were left on Sonny. It could have been a

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Speaker 1: case of it just wasn't worth continuing on. Well, Sarah

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Speaker 1: claims that the app was still highly successful. So she said,

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Speaker 1: the hard part or the thing that doesn't make sense

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Speaker 1: to a lot of people within my team, like within

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Speaker 1: the financial team, is the app is successful. You guys

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Speaker 1: love it and my team love it, and it's a

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Speaker 1: great platform. It's a great app. With that in mind,

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Speaker 1: why was it not sold? Yeah, We've seen so many

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Speaker 1: fitness influencers who have sold their apps. They've remained the

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Speaker 1: face of it, and they've had a whole team who've

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Speaker 1: been able to come up with the content. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think Sam would think Kayla had seen us, Like, literally,

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Speaker 1: if the app was so successful, surely someone would have

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Speaker 1: come in and bought it. You're not just going to

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Speaker 1: make a terrible financial decision and go, oh no, it's

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Speaker 1: so successful, we're just going to get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: I would love to know if anyone listening is a

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Speaker 1: subscriber of Sonny, can you keep us posted on how

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Speaker 1: it all goes, Like do you get a refund? What's

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Speaker 1: the communication been? Like we did pay Sophie out because

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Speaker 1: she did sign up with it initially launched, and she

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Speaker 1: was very underwhelmed by it. Yeah, well it's hard to

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Speaker 1: do gluten free, dairy fee, sugar free recipes, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Now before we go, you may already have heard that

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Speaker 1: we are shaking things up this summer, so we are

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Speaker 1: releasing a new series called Unspoken. Okay, great name you

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Speaker 1: came up with that I did. I was pretty toffed

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Speaker 1: with myself. So we are going to be going behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes of the unspoken stories from the nineties and

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Speaker 1: early naughties that you think you know but probably don't

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Speaker 1: know all the details about. The first episode is dropping

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, and it is about Victoria Beckham. The spy scales,

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Speaker 1: that cheating scandal. I'm so excited for it. I am

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Speaker 1: very excited too. And for our Outspoken Plus subscribers, subs

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Speaker 1: episodes will now be dropping on a Friday, and those

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Speaker 1: episodes will be focused on pop culture and influencer news.

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Speaker 1: So if anyone is missing their double dose of that,

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Speaker 1: they can sign up to Outspoken Plus now. This episode

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Speaker 1: was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people

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Speaker 1: of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past

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Speaker 1: in present,