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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to fearlessly failing with Lola Berry. Right,

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Speaker 1: if you're on Insta and you're into fashion, travel, beauty, lifestyle,

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Speaker 1: there's a high chance that you will be following Lisa

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Speaker 1: Hamilton aka seawawn Shop.

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Speaker 2: She's really awesome, super down to earth.

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Speaker 1: She shares how her dream came about really organically and

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Speaker 1: just kind of being an outlet for creativity, but she

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Speaker 1: also shares the Archeesides, she talks about trolls and how

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Speaker 1: those kind of yuckier times are harder to hand or

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Speaker 1: She was really open, really generous and I hope you enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Hamilton aka Sea Want Shop.

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Speaker 3: How do I do that?

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Speaker 1: Keep it on? Who cares?

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Speaker 3: Sounds? Found it? Vibrate on, silent off.

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Speaker 1: I love that I've started recording and your I love that, alright,

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Speaker 1: I know, I love it. This is welcome to the

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Speaker 1: world of a very successful It's just I love it.

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Speaker 3: Disrespectful to have my phone going.

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Speaker 1: On, No, man, I don't even care and I hope

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Speaker 1: Pretzel gives us a little bit halfway through.

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Speaker 3: Hope he stays quiet, but you never tell with puppies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you so, first of all, very excited

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Speaker 1: to be here.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited to be here too.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm having a bit of a fangirl

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Speaker 1: moment because I've researched you so much. For people listening,

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Speaker 1: I am sitting opposite the incredible Okaya Lisa Hamilton, Yes.

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Speaker 4: That is my name, not to see some people there like, Hi, see,

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Speaker 4: how are you do you get that?

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, we're clearly not reading properly. But yes,

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Speaker 4: it has happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get Yumo because my yeah, FA's the same.

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Speaker 2: They have never thought anything of it.

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Speaker 1: I always thought people were taking the shit out of

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Speaker 1: me when they said it. No, I there is. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how to introduce you because you do

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Speaker 1: so much. I feel like like initially I was like

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Speaker 1: a successful little go getter and we always The reason

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Speaker 1: why I wanted to talk to you is we always

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Speaker 1: have a good chat, like when we know each other

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Speaker 1: at events. I'm like, ah, real human, thank you. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to think I'm pretty real, totally so for those

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Speaker 1: people that don't know too much about you, which I

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Speaker 1: think everyone probably wouldn't if you don't jump online sus

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Speaker 1: out Sea one shop. But we're talking fashion, travel, lifestyle, beauty, Insta, Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and I I've watched all your YouTube VIDs now.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm trying to get into that a little

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Speaker 3: bit more.

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Speaker 1: It's a beast.

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Speaker 2: YouTube is a beast beast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of time and effort, and I've

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Speaker 4: always I keep telling myself, oh, I'm going to really

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Speaker 4: and yeah, it's slowly getting that.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to build it up. But it's a lot

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Speaker 1: It's completely different to the other and I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: So there's so many things I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: I looked at like I went all the way I

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Speaker 1: literally went all the way back through all your Insta photos,

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Speaker 1: like so many trips. Dude, You've been to the Melder

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Speaker 1: And then I'm looking at you on YouTube with Emirates

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I've had some very spectacular trips. I

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Speaker 4: feel very lucky to do what I do, very lucky totally.

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Speaker 1: But you are just a real person too, and that's

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Speaker 1: what my favorite thing about you, and that's what I

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Speaker 1: I also feel like in the way that you write

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Speaker 2: Does it feel like that?

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Speaker 3: I definitely. I try to keep it real.

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Speaker 4: I think for a long time Instagram, I know it

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Speaker 4: really nice inspiring content, but yeah, maybe make my captions

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Speaker 4: all my stories. I think stories, the integration of stories

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Speaker 4: I am a real person, and yes, I like to

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I take bloopers and know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love watching yeah into stories of like sweat life, Like,

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Speaker 1: holy Mac, you train you just said that two minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I did a double session this morning.

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Speaker 3: I did. I did.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get I had a little bit of

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Speaker 4: a break because I play AFL. Yeah, so this is

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Speaker 4: I was traveling heaps. But this year I really committed

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Speaker 4: I just said, yeah, I mean, I know I'm no

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Speaker 4: But now I'm just getting back into it. X. I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hearing you. I think the body needs breaks.

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Speaker 3: Though, Like, well that's what it felt like. It felt

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, footy is it's the most challenging thing

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Speaker 4: it's the it's the I shouldn't say violence, but the

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Speaker 2: And the mentality behind that as well. In warrior moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it really does take a lot out of you,

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Speaker 4: Like you get home on a Saturday afternoon smashed, absolutely

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Speaker 4: you've been on a four day bender. It's incredible really,

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Speaker 4: So that's yeah, So that's why I took that little break.

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Speaker 4: But now I'm feeling like fresh again. The body feels

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Speaker 4: really good, so I'm really hitting it. Yes, I did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just try.

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Speaker 1: I love the story myself, and you put your little

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Speaker 4: Ah yeah, my music taste and my fiancee thinks my

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Speaker 3: It's like atomic Kitten and it's so good, so good.

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Speaker 4: But I get a lot of people saying like, gosh,

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Speaker 3: I hold onto those little comments I get.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we've had combos about eaty or music

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Speaker 3: And porridge that we yeah, yeah, love it so.

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Speaker 1: Before we get in. As you know, this is about

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Speaker 1: like the icky stuff that no one really talks about

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Speaker 1: But for those people that are like, how on earth

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Speaker 4: It's been a very step by step organic process and

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Speaker 4: one that was completely not planned or it was never

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Speaker 4: a goal of mine. I guess when I started this,

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Speaker 4: wasn't established. So I have always loved fashion.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we both have the same fashion crush as Mary,

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Speaker 4: I love Mary and Kate Bosworth like the old school, yeah, always, totally.

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Speaker 4: I studied fashion at school, like I did all those

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Speaker 2: She was one of the ogs.

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Speaker 3: Og she started it while she was still at school.

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Speaker 4: And then the followers grew and then yeah, I guess

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Speaker 4: went part time with Physio and then started dedicating more

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Speaker 4: So I went casual with physio and then full time blog.

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Speaker 4: So that's where I am.

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Speaker 2: Now sure, and I love about that.

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Speaker 1: It feels super organic, very just like let it naturally unfolds,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that's the way for long term

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Speaker 1: a lot of fake you can swear on this, by

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Speaker 1: There is a lot of fake out there. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's why I've really enjoyed watching your journey, because

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I really enjoy sharing it with everybody, and I still

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Speaker 3: But it was incredible. I was just like star struck.

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Speaker 1: I think in Queensland? Was the Grace the great love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the bride looks like a Bohemian.

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Speaker 4: I've got to do some incredible bridle shoots since getting engaged.

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Speaker 4: That's honestly be my favorite thing, trying on dresses and

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Speaker 4: I was actually very surprised at how well fitting they were,

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Speaker 1: I saw you wrote this on your block. This is

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Speaker 3: It's very very common.

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Speaker 1: Pina, that's my word for tiny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not going to work.

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Speaker 1: So but you're small, like That's what I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: So oh Okay, so failures stuff ups. There was something

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Speaker 2: So you mentioned trolling.

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Speaker 4: They congrab this is obviously how I look and things

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Speaker 4: Very I think I'm very comfortable with who I am

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Speaker 4: And look, the police, they were as helpful as they

442
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 4: could be, but their hands are tied. They literally don't

443
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 4: have any power over that. And that's what really frustrated

444
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,959
Speaker 4: me about the whole process was that, yeah, that this

445
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 4: person could keep doing it and that they really had

446
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 4: nothing that they could do about it. I gave them

447
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 4: all this evidence and yeah, I wrote this long statement

448
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 4: and then it went to the Cyber Crime Division, and

449
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 4: she like, she contacted Twitter, she contacted inter she did

450
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 4: everything she could, but she's like, I'm gonna be honest

451
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 4: with you that there's highly likely this isn't going to

452
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 4: get results because these places are in America, where you know,

453
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 4: this isn't really a high priority for them, which is shit,

454
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 4: because I feel like they need to lift their game

455
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 4: when it comes to that, because if I'm copying it,

456
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 4: then there's a lot more people out there probably coppying it.

457
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: And I just think, I don't I don't understand.

458
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 4: Why they should be allowed to be nameless and faceless

459
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 4: and not get any blame for what they're doing total,

460
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 4: And like I just kind of like makes I just

461
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 4: get I do just get really angry about it because

462
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 4: at the same time, I'm like, this person, yeah, is

463
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 4: just able to continue and not feel any consequences for

464
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 4: their actions, And like, I don't know, surely that person

465
00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 4: is someone's sister, someone's daughter, maybe someone's muther.

466
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: How do they feel.

467
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 4: I don't understand how they think that what they're doing

468
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 4: is I imagine how that's making anyone that loves them

469
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 4: proud of them as a person.

470
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,719
Speaker 1: Also, they probably wouldn't talk to their sister or their

471
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: daughter or their mother.

472
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 4: That just gets me, Yeah, No, like just gets me

473
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 4: really angry. I'm like, you're some you're someone's child, or

474
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: you're someone's someone loves you and you think this is

475
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: okay to do this to another person like a shamed

476
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 4: They would be if they knew what you were doing.

477
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: But I think you've hit the nail on the head

478
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: by saying it's shamed, because I think themselves to.

479
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what they've.

480
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 3: Said, but I'm trying to find some good.

481
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: But I think they would have a sense of self

482
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 1: shame in order to be bringing another human down like

483
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: you'd have to be a bit of a knob.

484
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how you can be productive when you

485
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 4: don't actually work. Your voice are so annoying, but as

486
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: annoying as your head. Where you get your ugly looks from?

487
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, they remember they took a dig at

488
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 4: my dad once. That filter does nothing, you ugly troll

489
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: an example how photoshop can be, but still needs work

490
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: with the face and could have reduced your thighs somewhere.

491
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, we can tell where those.

492
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: Huge thy thighs of yours. Yeah, you are fat, you

493
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: are ugly.

494
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: You flaunt yourself on social media, so what else do

495
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 4: you expect? And the forty five snaps and the hood

496
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: skin and body snaps are pathetic. When you photoshop everything

497
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: that is pathetic, you ask for all of this comes

498
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: with the territory.

499
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: So take it, like, the man you look like.

500
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 2: Is this one person the same person?

501
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 4: I believe so because they always had very Yeah, I'm

502
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: very confident it's the same person. I'm very confident I

503
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: know who this person is really. And when I found

504
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 4: out who this person is, it stopped.

505
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: Really as in a person in Australia.

506
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: H oh, yeah, that's so messed up.

507
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so strong for you to be clear,

508
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: Like a lot of girls would read that and be

509
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: really upset, like if that was about them. With the upset,

510
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: I got fat shamed just two weeks ago, and they'd

511
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 1: seen an instant story and they'd sent it to their

512
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: friend about me.

513
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: But I haven't said to you, yeah, saying that happened.

514
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: She hasn't put any body length photos up. Yeah, she's

515
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 1: holding weight around your stomach. She looks pregnant. Oh my,

516
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 1: I'm presuming I was pregnant, which I wasn't. And I

517
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: wrote back, going, hey, clearly this is about me. For

518
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: the record, I'm not pregnant and I really don't think

519
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: you should talk about another woman like this, and then

520
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: I wrote.

521
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, I haven't posted any full length photos and.

522
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: Then they responded with sorry, that wasn't meant for you

523
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: and it wasn't about you, And I said, even worse,

524
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: you're saying that about somebody else. Yeah, I see a

525
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: therapist once a week. I'm like, you're saying that about

526
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: someone else that doesn't have a therapist, that can't unpack this,

527
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: Like you just handled that like a true chance.

528
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: I am, Yeah, I think because I was just like,

529
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know why I feel resilient

530
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: when it came to it, but I was just like

531
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 4: reading and I was like right, like, I don't know,

532
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: maybe because they was I don't know. I felt like

533
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: they were just so horrible that they couldn't be true.

534
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: On my head, well, no, no, they.

535
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: True, And it was like, oh, this person obviously just

536
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 4: has a beef with me. Maybe if it came from

537
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 4: lots of different people or more than one source, then

538
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: maybe that's when it would like, Oh, but I think

539
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: because annoying I was just coming from one person. It

540
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: was their opinion and they obviously have a lot of

541
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: time on their hands. But this person doesn't like themselves,

542
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: Like that's one hundred percent.

543
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: That's like a sense of like self loathing and definitely,

544
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: and then it's just like, what can you well done

545
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: for your hand? So initially before you went to the police,

546
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: did you respond to the first I.

547
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 4: Did at the start because I was at first I

548
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: was like, oh, this is like really full on, and

549
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: I was like, I think I wrote back things like oh,

550
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 4: you know, you know that's so nice.

551
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 3: What would you know?

552
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure your mum would love You've passed this on

553
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 4: to another human being. What a precious person you must be.

554
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas. I remember they started coming around Christmas and

555
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: I was just like and then like they wrote back,

556
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 4: like and just like never stopped.

557
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: Was like, you know what, I'm not even gonna bother

558
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: running back to you anymore.

559
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it is I love to write.

560
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is fun to write back to kind of

561
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 4: just be like, I don't know, I feel like I'm smart,

562
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 4: I know this, I know this myself, but it just

563
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 4: just feels. And then I even posted a couple of

564
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 4: times about it my stories, but which is like, obviously,

565
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 4: you know, everyone is so supportive and gets around you,

566
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 4: which is lovely, but again it just makes it worse.

567
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think as well, when someone's really unhappy

568
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: and you kind of like piece off in a funny way.

569
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: Correct, they're kind of like, you know.

570
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: You're going to listen to me. I'm right, you know this,

571
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: you're that. Yeah, I'm well done for the way that

572
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: you handled it.

573
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: By the way, thank you. Well that's something I was

574
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: just like, well, this isn't right.

575
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: I'm going to go to the place about it. And yeah,

576
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: unfortunately it didn't really get very far. They tried, they

577
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: did contact, like I said, all the social media places,

578
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: and but it just didn't end up.

579
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: Uh, and so it stopped? When did you didn't confront

580
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: the person who thought it was.

581
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 4: I stopped after a while, Like it did eventually stop

582
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: with that, and then it kind of was happening like

583
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: this was happening literally every single day, and then it stopped.

584
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: And then it was just coming happening very sporadically. And

585
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 4: then and then I think I found yeah, well I

586
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 4: believe I found ot who the person is. And then yeah,

587
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: and haven't had anything in a while now years.

588
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: Have you had any on the flip side of that,

589
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: have you had any like crazy fans that like send

590
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: me photos of your feet or anything really weird like that.

591
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I've got one. It doesn't ask for photos of much.

592
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 4: He always proposes to me and like just says I

593
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: love you, yeah, I want to marry you.

594
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: How do you respond to that?

595
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: Oh I don't yeah, I just I used to it at

596
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: the start, like that's really nice, actually sweet, But then

597
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: I stopped writing back and he's just like, I love

598
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: you so much, Lisa, and just like love hearts to everything.

599
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: Good morning, have a sweet day, Lisa, good night my love.

600
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 4: Oh wow, no one in this world loves you as

601
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: much as I do.

602
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's probably.

603
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of heart emojis and flying a lot

604
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: of my love, I love you so much, engagement ring

605
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: emojiagent ring emoji.

606
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: Wow. He likes to find other dogs that look like

607
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: my dog, and.

608
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: Like wow, okay, he's invested. He's very invested. Yeah, I

609
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: think as well, Like.

610
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: That's the only oh yeah, that's any one really.

611
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: There's a beautiful lightness to the way that you are

612
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: and and the way that you have handled both situations,

613
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: like both sides of the coin. I think the reality

614
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: is there are dickheads out there. You're always going to

615
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: bring other people down just because they're unhappy. And I

616
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: can see that you're like mate and I can.

617
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: I say, I have seen all.

618
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Your beautiful photos in tulip fields and all your photos

619
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: beautiful wedding wedding dress photos. You're fucking stunning for anyone

620
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: that wants to have like they can take it up.

621
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: With me absolutely. You know, well, I think everyone is.

622
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: Everyone's beautiful, and like I said, I just struggled to

623
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: comprehend how anyone could be like that to another person.

624
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: It's their own shit, it really really is.

625
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 4: That's why I said, Oh, yeah, for sure it is

626
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: there and shit, fuck thank you.

627
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So another thing you sent me was.

628
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: About losing a client.

629
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's always a tough one.

630
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I lot got dropped from a gig recently,

631
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: so I want to learn from this.

632
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes it's like a natural thing, but yeah, the

633
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: other times you have jobs or clients that just go

634
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: really sour. I remember once a few years ago, I, yeah,

635
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: I did this job and I thought everything was fine,

636
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: and then yeah, I got this email from my agent

637
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: being like the client thought you were like really rude

638
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 4: and disengaged, and I was like, oh, well at the

639
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: same place, Like, I was so confused, and the only

640
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 4: thing I could think of was that like when I'm

641
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: trying to get a shot or I mean the moment,

642
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: like I might be focusing on my camera and trying

643
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: to set things up at the zone.

644
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in the zone.

645
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: And so I was like, oh, yeah, maybe when I

646
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: was taking the photos, I was, but I don't believe

647
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: I was for the rest of the time. And the

648
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: client had only got there right at the end, so

649
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: I'd been there already for like an hour shooting everything,

650
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: and they weren't introduced to me as the client.

651
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

652
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: I just felt that there was a whole lot of

653
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: miscommunication and I was just very confused.

654
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: That was actually one time I actually was like hurt.

655
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 4: Like I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe it,

656
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 4: and like, yeah, I think sometimes I do, like I

657
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: focus or a zone out, or I can be vague

658
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: and maybe that doesn't Let's just talk about.

659
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: An event for a second. There's so much going on,

660
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Speaker 1: it's like a sensory overload. Yeah. Plus, if you're being

661
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Speaker 1: paid to be there or get a photo capture the moment,

662
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: you've got a job to do.

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Speaker 2: Small talk is hard a really good job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it did shake me that. I was like, oh

665
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: my gosh, like yeah, I need to like to know.

666
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Speaker 2: Oh for mactionally better.

667
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: I did to shoot for a company and they're like,

668
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: we need to reshoot this because lowl looked so bad

669
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: and I had to and I had to like do

670
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Speaker 1: it all again with full hair for makaha.

671
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Speaker 3: Oh god.

672
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had so I've had fairal ones. I get

673
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: I've been dropped from so many deals, but.

674
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: It's nice to know that other people go through the

675
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: same stuff.

676
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: So I think, So this is what I was so

677
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: excited to talk to you about because I think when

678
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: we see like Instagram and all these amazing campaigns and

679
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: travel and you.

680
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: Know that I hear about the time that the claim's like, yeah,

681
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: can you reshoot this because you know that wasn't really

682
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: on brand for us, or you're not meeting the brief

683
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: or yeah, you don't look like how we want you

684
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: to look, or your makeups the wrong makeup or yeah.

685
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: And also I think as well, like even to get

686
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Speaker 1: that perfect shot that you for, like if it's for

687
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: a collab with it, a lot of work actually into that.

688
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: And sometimes I come up with these super creative ideas

689
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: and I'm like so proud of them, and I go

690
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: and shoot in the brands like, actually, we're not really

691
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: wanting to go down that path.

692
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: Just give us a flat light.

693
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not I'm not the influencer that goes in,

694
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: you know, in front of a brick wall and takes

695
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: a photo that you like in like a tiny little bikini.

696
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: That's because I'm really like, I don't get my engagement

697
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: from that. I'm not that that really beautiful Barbie looking girl.

698
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I like, very beautiful, Oh thank you.

699
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: But like I like to make my content like interesting

700
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: and dynamic, and.

701
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: There's an ethereal nature to your content too, and so

702
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: there's that real wonder lusty yeah, kind.

703
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 4: Of try and make it like yeah, wonder lusty inspiration

704
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: also like attainable and relatable.

705
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: Actually, it's it's a kind of a.

706
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: Fine line, and like always feel like I'm always walking

707
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: the line and trying to get that. But that's that's

708
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: why I love stories as well.

709
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: But so I read this quote that you gave probably

710
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: is I've read pretty much every.

711
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Speaker 3: Oh my god about it, I said.

712
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Speaker 1: And it was like, my goal is to instill a

713
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: spark of inspiration into your day every day that I've

714
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: been on.

715
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's on my website. That's still true.

716
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: And I and I and I kept coming back to

717
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's writing to the every girl, like I

718
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: could relate to you. I was like, as soon as

719
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: I watch all the YouTube VIDs, I was like, subscribe, subscribe,

720
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: Like You're like, if you want to know more about me,

721
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: if you want to, here's my ten questions. But like

722
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: I was just like, you're very relatable.

723
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: I feel like I am just the everyday girl.

724
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: And I feel like maybe it's because I did go

725
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: to union, I did work full time. I haven't just

726
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: gone straight from high school into this strange digital world,

727
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 4: and I have worked in the real world, and I

728
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: just feel like I'm still that same person. I just

729
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: get to do this incredible job now.

730
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Speaker 1: On the note of the incredible job, And we haven't

731
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: talked about this as a failure, but I was just

732
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Speaker 1: I was learning it. I'm a virgo, so I very

733
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: much over prepare you, suy. I've got my little notebook here,

734
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: but how do you go with Like, obviously, Instagram is

735
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: a changing landscape and it's saturated now every man and

736
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: their dog, I know. And obviously there was the stage

737
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: where followers would drop and then people buying followers and

738
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: was obvious who was But then they were getting jobs

739
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: because they had more fault like and like, how do

740
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: you stay like solid within your message yourself?

741
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough.

742
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough gig with all the changes, and

743
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: it is tough to stay true and keep on brand

744
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: and keep doing the same thing you're doing if it's

745
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: not resonating and your likes are going down. And I mean,

746
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: I won't complain about the fact that likes have been

747
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: removed in Australia. I think it's great. I almost think

748
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: they should just get removed altogether. Instead of just hiding

749
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: them for everyone else, i'dre for not even to see

750
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: them myself. Yeah, because you're still always comparing.

751
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: That's That's the one thing in this.

752
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 4: Job that I I hate the most is how much

753
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: I compare myself to what other people are doing or

754
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: what other you know.

755
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, see I look at yours and you're so yourself,

756
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't compare you to someone else because I'm like, yeah,

757
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: I know, but that's your style.

758
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 4: Be like, oh they're doing that, or you know, they're

759
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 4: growing by this march and I'm growing by this.

760
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: Half of them are buying the mate, you know what

761
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean.

762
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: But I actually never think that in my head.

763
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: I always think that because I went down by like mazillion.

764
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I never think I feel right. You're

765
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: going do you want to grow foot to go likes?

766
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: And I'm just like delete, delete, delete. But it was

767
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: actually Tully that did. She I was really awesome. Tully

768
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: Smiles did a screen grab of them going do you

769
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: want to grow your followers and get x amount like something?

770
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: And she wrote, no, thank you. I would much rather

771
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: have an organic, real community and have an engaged community

772
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: that's smaller than a huge community that is all engaged.

773
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Speaker 1: And I was like, good on you, because I think

774
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of rare the people that are like sticking

775
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: to their and sticking to like what I love about you,

776
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: which is organic.

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00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: Thank you.

778
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: No, You've just got to keep being I just have

779
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: to keep telling myself, you know, keep doing what you're doing,

780
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 4: keep doing what you love, and keep creating content that

781
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: you love and the rest you can't control. So stop

782
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: freshing about it, or stop comparing yourself, or stop worrying

783
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: about the likes or the followers or what's happening. Because

784
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: it is out of your control. And I know as

785
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 4: much as they say, well you can post it this time,

786
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 4: you can post this kind of content. You can you know,

787
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: do this kind of engagement and that'll all help with everything. Yeah,

788
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: but does it really I mean exactly?

789
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Does keep doing you?

790
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: Just just keep doing you and honestly just try not

791
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: to worry about the rest.

792
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: And that's what I try and do.

793
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: And you've just hit the nail on the head with

794
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: a common theme with pretty much every guess and they're like,

795
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: stayin in your lane, like just do your thing, ye,

796
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: do it well, work hard, be kind.

797
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, staying your lane. That's a very good motto, like

798
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: that simple yes it.

799
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: Is question, what is it? Oh? Well I know the

800
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: answer this because you've told me. But it's is it

801
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: true you failed a subject?

802
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, yeah it is, it's half true.

803
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 4: It's half true. So I get I did a course

804
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: where you it's very different to other court It's kind

805
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 4: of like school. You have to pass every subject every year.

806
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 3: To then go to the next semester. It's unlike ticking off.

807
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like those like standard arts business commistrator.

808
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: You can pick up subjects and do then whenever you're

809
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: like or whatever, no physio, it's literally like yeah, level one,

810
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: US year one, level two, and it's like, yeah, you

811
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: move up the scale. So you can't go to the

812
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: next level unless you pass everything. And they only run

813
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: the subjects obviously once a year. So yeah, if you fail,

814
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 4: then you basically have to take you off. So yeah,

815
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: so I guess to counter that and to make sure

816
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: lots of people don't all fail, is you if you

817
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 4: if you were in that like bracket of just on

818
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: the fifty percent and maybe five percent each side, you

819
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: get another.

820
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Speaker 1: Go okay, Yeah, so that was what happened.

821
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: That was me.

822
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 4: So I got in that little bracket of they used

823
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Speaker 4: to call it SUP. I don't know what stood for

824
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 4: supplementary maybe, and you used to have to come in

825
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: for another test.

826
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you failed that then you to read it.

827
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you filed the first bit where you were

828
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: in the.

829
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 4: Sitwed that first bit. So I was in SUP and

830
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: then I had to go back.

831
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: But what did you get when you did?

832
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: I reckon? I must have been like I reckon.

833
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: It was either forty nine or fifty or fifty one

834
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: or something, and fifty I think fifty was maybe fifty

835
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 4: five was a pass or something.

836
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Speaker 3: I don't know it was.

837
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: It was it was like right on half. But and

838
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: at the time I was like so ashamed until anyone

839
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: into my parents, I was like, I'm just gonna work

840
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 4: really hard, make sure i passed the next one, and

841
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 4: then no one will eleven. Oh and you'll find And

842
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: that's what I did. So it worked out fine. But

843
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 4: then it was really funny. Then we came we all

844
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 4: came back because we used to do everything as a

845
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: year level. We all came back like the next year

846
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: or the next semester or what it was, and they

847
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: did they put the stats up and literally I think

848
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: it was almost half.

849
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Speaker 3: The course had failed or like forty this subject.

850
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like I was like, oh, it wasn't just me,

851
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: Like it was obviously it was the subject, it was

852
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: the teaching, it was an exam at the time whatever.

853
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: It was like a lot of people had to do

854
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: this up.

855
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 4: So in the end, I was like at the time,

856
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: I was like devastated because I've never found anything like

857
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: school wise, you a hard worker, yeah, yeah, yeah, and

858
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 4: I just I, yeah, I don't know, school always just

859
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: clicked with me.

860
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: Academics just clicked with me.

861
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 4: And I think that's why physio was a bit tricky

862
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: because it's not just academics. It is a lot of

863
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: you assess someone and then you use your clinical reasoning

864
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 4: to then go to the next step.

865
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: It's not like A plus A.

866
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: It's not just biology, no, because there are different There

867
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 4: are many different ways to treat a shoulder and man,

868
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 4: different ways to treat an ankle. You might focus more

869
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 4: on balance, you might focus more on strength, so like

870
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 4: there are Yeah, So it was it was getting my

871
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: head around that when I was doing physio, and it

872
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: took me a long time to get around that.

873
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: There is more all than one, just like that about physio.

874
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: And as long as you can justify what you're doing,

875
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: then you're doing the right thing. Yes, you can say, oh,

876
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm strengthening that, because when I assessed that it was weak, Okay, continue,

877
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 4: and I didn't quite get that.

878
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: And this, I think it was.

879
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: The failure was in my second year of UNIE, so

880
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 4: I was still just kind of get my head around yeah, yeah, everything,

881
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 4: And but it was devastating.

882
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: I was just like, I can't believe this.

883
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: I've never failed any school subject anything in my life,

884
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 4: and I can't believe.

885
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: I like, am I have to take a year off?

886
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: And I was freaking out, but thankfully Yeah.

887
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Do you know when you wrote that to me, I

888
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I got thirty one percent

889
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: on my one of my nutrition subjects.

890
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and i'd same thing. It was my mid semester exam.

891
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I put all the pressure on myself to pass,

892
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: so I had to get above seventy seventy five to

893
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: kind of know that I would pass it, and same thing.

894
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: I just scraped through it. And the next year everyone

895
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: was like, you went alone. You were, yeah, one of

896
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: the only five people end up getting through the subjects

897
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: exact same Yeah.

898
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, I know you think you think you're alone,

899
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: and I thought I was. I didn't tell anyone and

900
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: I thought it, and then I was like, oh, I

901
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: could have told that persically because they were all on

902
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 4: the same boat, and I didn't realize and I hear

903
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 4: I was just trying to get through this and study

904
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: you by myself, because I was like too scared to

905
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: even ask anyone to study with me because I was like, oh,

906
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: they're going to know it failed then, so I'm not

907
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: going to ask them.

908
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: So I was going to study on my own and.

909
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Young too, you know, when you're like shit dat like.

910
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: But it was just funny that it worked out that

911
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: a lot of people are in the same boat. And

912
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 4: I think that's important to remember that there are always

913
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: there's always someone going through the same thing that you

914
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: just don't realize.

915
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: And I think as well, like I speak at the

916
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: UNI I went to and I'm like, guys, I got

917
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: thirty one percent on my human biology exam and they're like,

918
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: why is she talking about failing? And I think people

919
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: need to know. And that's why this exists, this whole podcast,

920
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: is because you can be super successful and you will

921
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: absolutely fail along the way, and that's your part of it.

922
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: And I think it teaches all these ill things, Like

923
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: even as messed up as the troll thing was, it

924
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: probably gave you a sense of going, well, I know

925
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: who I am and I know that that's not true.

926
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, bloody sucks, but I'm not going to let.

927
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: It affect me sure for sure, And so it gives

928
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: you this strength and absolutely you're someone that's me as

929
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: like somebody that marches to the beat of their own drum.

930
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: That's good to see that. Again. I am very much.

931
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: I do live in lease land, that's for sure. Sometimes

932
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 4: good things, sometimes a bad thing.

933
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: No, it's a perfect thing.

934
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: You want to live in another land.

935
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: I do get in my own little bubble sometimes.

936
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think having a career that involves social media, though,

937
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: you almost need to be in your bubble because that

938
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: is what your world is and that's what your work

939
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: comes from as well. So you need to be quite

940
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: clear about that bubble of that's true.

941
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: That's true.

942
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: So it's very inspiring. I have a few more little

943
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: questions that aren't related to failure at all. Bring it on,

944
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: and please tell me about the Maldives. I knows I've been,

945
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: but I want to know your experiences. Is it the

946
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: Molded Well?

947
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 4: I asked when I was there, It's like, how do

948
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: I pronounce it? And they tell me it was the Moldives.

949
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: So I'm obviously being a bo again.

950
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah that's what that's what the local told me. I'm

951
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: going to go with that. Yes, so that I've been

952
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 3: there twice. Actually, no, you.

953
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: Know, it's like a bazillion dollars a night, right, isn't it?

954
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: I believe?

955
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: So?

956
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, one was completely paid everything. It was a

957
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: job and I just went to take social media content

958
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 4: for this swimwear brand. So state your partner, No, no,

959
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: this one. I just went on my own okay, well

960
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: and with the brand yeah, and.

961
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: The models and they had their team there or whatever.

962
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: But I got my own like over the water bungalow

963
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: and yeah, it was amazing.

964
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: So this is the thing I find. Did you feel

965
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: like you're in a dream?

966
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: The whole time? I was like, yes, I actually feel like.

967
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't get over how blue everything was.

968
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: And I know I sound like such an idiot, but

969
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: always on my Snapchat and all my stories, I'd be like, guys,

970
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 4: like I know this looks blue, but you.

971
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: Don't understand how blue it is.

972
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 4: Like I can't even open my eyes because it's so

973
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 4: blue and like bright, and like you walk outside and

974
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: you're like, this is just like your eyes are all

975
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: squinty and it's just so blue and looks like a

976
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: postcard in the postcard and it's so surreal. But it's

977
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 4: the most beautiful place I've ever been in the world.

978
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: The same I took my best mate, I said for

979
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: the job. They were like, can you come to Maldives?

980
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: And I was literally just talking nutrition and social media

981
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: to their team and I'm like, only if I can

982
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: bring my best mate, so I my.

983
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: Best but I was like, yes, well that's I'll take me.

984
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: When I think they thought we were a couple, like

985
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: a beautiful lesbian couple, and so with what come in

986
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: every day to have bed with, like heart.

987
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: Roast, I've had that a lot, Like when I go

988
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: on trips, they'll call my partner mister Hamilton.

989
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: Thank you, mister Hamilton. Was will you be changing its larious?

990
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: I will? Yeah, that's exciting, It is exciting.

991
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you say what you're going to become?

992
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be the sanctust I like has

993
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 4: a space in it, which I think is really cool.

994
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: I've always wanted to look nice on your My name

995
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: is just so like normal and like Anglo Saxon and

996
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: regular and you can say it, which is fantastic growing up,

997
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: best name ever. But now I'm like excited to have

998
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 4: something a little fancy. Yeah, so what's his back? It's

999
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 4: then you're right, yes, Italian is that surname?

1000
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: My boyfriend's Italian too, so that they reckon Italian.

1001
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: Boy's got this like passion. Yeah, the family, I would say, totally.

1002
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Totally Okay. So I know we're getting to the end

1003
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: where I'm like, ah, but I've got so much. I

1004
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: want to ask you, best trip you've ever done? What

1005
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: you would just say Malley's Yeah.

1006
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: But the second time when I went with my now fiance,

1007
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: my boyfriend at the time, because yeah, we went for

1008
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: a week and it was just insane, insane.

1009
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: It was just so lovely.

1010
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: You know, to swim with whale sharks there.

1011
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get to do that.

1012
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: There was a shark that little one of those little

1013
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: baby ones that swam, but I screamed and got out

1014
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 4: of the water.

1015
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: Oh you're not a water baby. With the sharks and

1016
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: shark I did the whale shark swim and it was

1017
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: literally like you go, it's so deep, it's super super deep,

1018
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: and I was I just did a prayer. I was like, please,

1019
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: don't some other show it was like organized and other

1020
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: people doing it like that jar you just like spam

1021
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: past me.

1022
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, don't get niar.

1023
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah totally okay, So.

1024
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: So that, yeah, I think that would have to be

1025
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: up there.

1026
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: What about in the fashion world, because I feel like

1027
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: you've done some big fashion stuff.

1028
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've done New York Fashion Week. I've

1029
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: actually done London Fashion Week too, but I think New

1030
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 4: York Fashion Week was not a few years ago. Was

1031
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: probably just.

1032
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: The energy of my favorite line.

1033
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the energy of New York. Again. My fiance got

1034
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: to come.

1035
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 4: So we stayed in this awesome little apartment in West

1036
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 4: Village and yeah, he'd come meet me before after shows

1037
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 4: and we'd like walk to Time Squares ago, get a

1038
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 4: pizza slice. You know, just live in New York. And

1039
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 4: it was awesome. It was a really really good trip.

1040
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: It is the city that never sleeps.

1041
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: There's something I always say to people, I might put

1042
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: it on your bucket list, just to feel the energy.

1043
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 4: Remember one night we got we literally, I don't know why,

1044
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: we had a massive sleep and messive gone out the

1045
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: night before, and then we just like potted around a

1046
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 4: little apartment and then it got to like then we

1047
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: had a nap and went back to sleep, and we

1048
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: woke up at like nine pm and we literally slept

1049
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 4: all day. And so we're wide away, so let's just

1050
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: walk and we just walked the Times Square and like

1051
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 4: and everything. It's just like it just never sleeps. There's

1052
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: always something on.

1053
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: Said to me on the plane from Los Angeles, New York.

1054
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: They said it's the.

1055
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: One part of the world where you can get or

1056
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 1: do whatever you want.

1057
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, and it.

1058
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: Does feel like that when you versus Los Angeles. Why, yes,

1059
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: you feel like this opportunity and stuff.

1060
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: But it feels very creative.

1061
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: Well, the good thing you can walk everywhere and get anywhere.

1062
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 4: It's all so close and so you can just wander

1063
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 4: and just discover places and it's great.

1064
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. So for fashion, I think your fashion week.

1065
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: Was was pretty good, and I do have a fashion

1066
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: question for you. Yeah, I got a bit nerdy. I

1067
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: think just watching all I actually.

1068
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: Don't know a lot about fashion. I think it's a

1069
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 4: common misconception about myself. I actually don't follow trends.

1070
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: Or I like, you're just proud at what I like.

1071
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: So hopefully it's not a it's so easy.

1072
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: It's so easy.

1073
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: So like for someone listening, that's just like I want

1074
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: it because I know you've got beautiful little pieces. I

1075
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: know it's like that kind of pop up every now

1076
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: and then. But for someone listening, that's like, oh, like

1077
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: I want what can be my one staple, Like what's

1078
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: that one thing that's like you'll go to and you're like,

1079
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: I've never thrown it out. I always go back to it.

1080
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: It comes in season in season out.

1081
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I have like ten, I'm trying to narrow it.

1082
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: Give me three, give me three faves.

1083
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I think a really great paower of jeans.

1084
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: It's very cliche, but usually spend some money and go

1085
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: get a pair of genes that fit you perfectly. It's

1086
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: such a good investment. And even if you have to

1087
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: spend lots, I don't know, just make it work and

1088
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 4: you'll have them forever and they'll never lose their shape.

1089
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: You always wear you look great in jeans, to wear

1090
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: rock the white tea.

1091
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: Jeans and a white tea can't be there. I love it.

1092
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: So I think I'm just a really really really good piece.

1093
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: Accounts is always always important. I'll say, a blazer, I

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00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 4: don't know, a blazer. Yeah, I have maybe three that

1095
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 4: I have really invested in, and yeah, I will never

1096
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Speaker 4: throw them out.

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Speaker 1: Because I guess it can be good for meetings, but

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Speaker 1: then if you've got an event, you can kind.

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Speaker 4: Of dress something that's more casual for sure, for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just I think blazers are great. You can Yeah,

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00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 4: and my third thing, this is tough.

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00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: What else I love that I've put you on the spot, Like, yeah,

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00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I know I'm getting inspired though.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's good, that's good. I'm going to say boots. Yeah, yeah, boots.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe its because I'm from Melbourne and you get

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00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: to wear boots a lot.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, that feels like a very

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00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 4: Melbourne Yeah, it is a very Melbourne answer.

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00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: But I like that. Yeah, I think some really Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love boots.

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00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm a real boots and again, a good way to

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00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: dress something up for sure.

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00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: Don't have to be healed, but just have Yeah, just

1114
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: have a really good pair of boots that you'll have forever,

1115
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 4: like Iron even some Ram Williams, so like that, just

1116
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: you'll have them forever.

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Speaker 3: There's there an Aussie staple pair of arms. I think

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So after this, I'm going to go out and

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Speaker 1: invest in a good pair of jeans, blazer boots.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a really good place in the city that

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00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: does custom fitting jeans. What's it, youllowed to say, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's called First Principles Okay, Yeah, and I have two

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00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 4: pairs now from them. And you go in there and

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00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: they measure you all up, I say, you know, what

1126
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Speaker 4: color do you want them? What hardware do you want?

1127
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 4: What stych do you want? What buttons do you want?

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Speaker 4: What style do you want? Then two weeks later, you're

1129
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: perfectly fitting jeans arrive.

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Speaker 1: And is it an investment pair?

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Speaker 3: Would you say?

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00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1133
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: Not cheat? Okay, it's definitely an investment pair.

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00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: Just get a little white tea and I'm sad.

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00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a black pair and a white pair

1136
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: and I wear them like constantly to dead and I

1137
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 4: get so many compliments and like verse genes from they

1138
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: like you so well.

1139
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why. Yeah, So that's my little tip.

1140
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: If you're in Melbourne, I'm sure they do it. They

1141
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 3: do elsewhere custom jeans.

1142
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: I feel like you're amazing this well, this has been

1143
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: in credits because thank you. I just you're really real

1144
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: and you've got there's no no bs, no bulls, no

1145
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: filters here, absolutely and I love that. So it's been

1146
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: an honor to chat to you today. And I can't

1147
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: believe we just popped your podcast. Cherry mate.

1148
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 4: I'm like waiting for someone to ask. I'm just waiting

1149
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 4: here in the corner. Someone will ask me to be

1150
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: on a podcast one day. Wow, and I'm very excited.

1151
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: It was you and your first and it was really

1152
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: nice to like just chat.

1153
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoyed it.

1154
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 2: You're doing great.

1155
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, so much.

1156
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 4: I think that's the other thing I love about this well.

1157
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 4: I mean constantly, everyone's just been like, you're amazing, You're great.

1158
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: Everyone's very supportive.

1159
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: And I've read how you are, Like, I've met some

1160
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: nice mates through this industry, Like you're friends with it.

1161
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: You've got like a bit of a clan, and.

1162
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: I love really good friends.

1163
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: I mean in saying that, I think it's really important

1164
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: to still have friends about in the industry, and I

1165
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 4: think that's one thing that has like for me. Like

1166
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 4: my three best friends and my bridesmaids, they're completely not

1167
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: in the industry at all, and.

1168
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: That's just great.

1169
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 4: Phones are never out when whenever. Yeah, it's just us

1170
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 4: when we're together, and that's the best.

1171
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: Obviously.

1172
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: I still love like my other friends that I've made

1173
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 4: through the industry because it's great because.

1174
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 3: They get it. They get it exactly. It's easy.

1175
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 4: But I think it's really important to keep people close

1176
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: to you that aren't trying to get likes or followers

1177
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 4: or whatever it is, because they're just they're the people

1178
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: that have known you since the start and all these

1179
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 4: girls have and yeah, they'll bring you back down to

1180
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 4: earth pretty quickly if you need it.

1181
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: I need say that. I thought I was going to

1182
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: say it brings a sense of grounding for sure, because

1183
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: I think that's actually where people shine. When you're grounded,

1184
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: your feet are on the ground, you're clear, you know

1185
00:52:59,200 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: who you are.

1186
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: And that's why I love.

1187
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: That's probably been my biggest takeaway today, Like you've got

1188
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: a sense of knowing, like you know who you are,

1189
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: You like who you are, you know who you are,

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00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: you love what.

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: You'm a little bit older and then and I always

1192
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: feel quite these events, what are you?

1193
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: Are?

1194
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: We the same? Do you know? I've just turned thirty four, mate,

1195
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: so I'm older than you you are.

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00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 4: I always feel Yeah, sometimes I feel a bit old

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00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: in this industry. But I feel like like I gravitate

1198
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: and you gravitate to the same kind of people. So yeah,

1199
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 4: in this industry, I gravitate to the people who I know,

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00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: like my people.

1201
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: You can pick the realies and the faith.

1202
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just funny.

1203
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: You just sometimes you meet someone you're like, you just

1204
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: know it's lovely to meet you, but we just we

1205
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 4: just don't have anything in common.

1206
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 3: Really, we're just not on the same page.

1207
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: That's just using your intuition too.

1208
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, when you meet someone you like, oh, wow,

1209
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: you're cool, like we can have a great Yeah.

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00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: But well, I think it's strange about these industries, Like

1211
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: in the real world, you'd meet that person, then you

1212
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: may not ever see them again. Did you see these

1213
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 4: people all the time, so you do have to like

1214
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 4: still you know, Yeah, it's bizarre.

1215
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: I learn off someone just Yestertage.

1216
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: She goes, be clear but kind, so you can be

1217
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: really kind to an absolute to kill people with kindness,

1218
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: like Selena Gomez says, kill them with kindness.

1219
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: So great, I'll send it to you after this.

1220
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 3: How bad is my music?

1221
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I always say, listen to Selena Gomez.

1222
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: Then when I see them, like.

1223
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: If someone's been a bit of a ding go to

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00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: or like just someone.

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00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: And I'm always like, it's it doesn't cost anything to

1226
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: be kind, doesn't cost anything, to be generous, doesn't cost

1227
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 4: anything to say thank you. And then so like there

1228
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 4: are all these things that are free in the world

1229
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 4: that we should all be doing.

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00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 3: And I think if you.

1231
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 4: Because yeah, I think again, having back in the day

1232
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 4: been working in retail and hospitality. When people bring in

1233
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: their bad moods and they just dump it on you.

1234
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 4: So I always try and just not be that person

1235
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: who walks into the store in a bad mood. And

1236
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: I think we could all do something to just make

1237
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 4: whoever we come across that day their day a little

1238
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: bit better or just like not bad anyway, saying hello.

1239
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: Are doing that? My friend?

1240
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: We'll have a really cute puppy and he helps with

1241
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 4: his own emoji. He has his own emoji planned. It's

1242
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 4: so good, so had like he's the best. He will

1243
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 4: just light up people's day. It's lovely.

1244
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: I love that.

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00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: It's nice and you're lovely and on that thank you

1246
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: for having me.

1247
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 3: It was really fun.

1248
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: I'm honored.

1249
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm honored.

1250
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1251
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm honored. I'm honored to be on a podcast. It's incredible.

1252
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: First of many.

1253
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: I bet oh, I don't know about that. We'll see

1254
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: t Thank you, beauty, thank you.

1255
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

1256
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

1257
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo, Lola Berry, this potty My

1258
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: Word for podcast is available on all streaming platform I'd

1259
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,080
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00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,919
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