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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing hot Seat. In this app, I

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Speaker 1: fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. Ps,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be answering you. I'm not so good at

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Speaker 1: the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the awesome answers.

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Speaker 1: Now a new app is going to drop every Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so enjoy this shortest style episode of fearlessly Failing Hot Seat.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the hot seat. What is your full name,

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Speaker 1: my friend?

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Speaker 2: My full name is Jenny Valentish.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful sweet or savory?

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Speaker 2: Savory?

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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite meal?

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Speaker 2: Yes, chicken tigering curry.

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Speaker 1: Yum, Yeah, that sounds real good. We are living our

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Speaker 1: late at the moment, but there's this tigreen curry we

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Speaker 1: love from Byron Bay, like the paste, and so we

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Speaker 1: get mates to send it to us with coffee. But

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Speaker 1: I love that lucks. It feels very lucks. Actually, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Do you have a favorite city?

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, oh god, maybe Seattle. I have very fond

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Speaker 2: memories of going to when I was twenty, which is

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Speaker 2: kind of at the peak of Seattle them.

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Speaker 1: Oh I like that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never been.

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Speaker 1: It's gone on the list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bit wet.

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Speaker 1: That's all right with Melves Right now, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I stopped. Do you have a favorite nature spot?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I live on the morning from Peninsula down the

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Speaker 2: pointy ends of Saint Andrew's Beach and be surrounded by

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Speaker 2: wild ocean beaches, highly dangerous, so I don't swimming them,

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Speaker 2: especially being English. But incredible. Still, these cliff walks every

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Speaker 2: day and it takes five minutes to get there. I

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Speaker 2: cannot believe my luck, especially coming from Slough in England.

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Speaker 1: I've heard you make a joke about Slough if you

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Speaker 1: want to know what Slough's like now, but you haven't

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Speaker 1: been since the seventies, or isn't.

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Speaker 2: It is Jimmy Carr, Yes, he's from Slough. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: if you want to know what Slough was like in

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Speaker 2: the seventies, go there now.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a fear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, death, either either my partner's death or a

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Speaker 2: way in which I might die, like they're not good

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Speaker 2: generally speaking. He's way, So I guess it's like it's

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Speaker 2: not like I've you know, it's not like I'm that old.

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Speaker 2: I'm fifty, but I feel like it's more and more

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Speaker 2: on my mind. I guess because my dad died and

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Speaker 2: more and more people around you die. Yeah, so my

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Speaker 2: mind's a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's the most common thing people say the same question. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well coming for all of us, and we don't know how,

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Speaker 1: when or what. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so many fears about my partner dying. We did

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Speaker 2: a whole podcast episode on it. And he doesn't feel

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Speaker 2: that back. He just he just assumes he'll die first

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Speaker 2: so he doesn't have to worry about it.

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Speaker 1: I would say my partner would say the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: I could absolutely agree.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely cop out.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing about yourself? Oh God, I feel

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Speaker 1: that's a hard question to ask a brit isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we're very self defrecating. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I kind of really like my awkwardness, which is funny

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Speaker 2: because it used to cause me a lot of anguish,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's turned me into hate the word quirky,

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Speaker 2: but like a quirky individual where people think, hm, she

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Speaker 2: looks interesting.

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Speaker 1: I also think, to me, you felt very real. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so I feel like if awkwardness is part of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so be it.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a pet peeve people walking too slowly

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Speaker 2: in front of me big in londoner really oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's fair. I would totally agree

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Speaker 1: with that one. Do you have a non negotiable.

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Speaker 2: For a relationship?

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Speaker 1: Can be for a relationship, it can be as a writer,

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Speaker 2: God, uh, that's so broad.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's so broad. Well, mine will be therapy, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that like gym for the mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, Well, fitness is my non negotiable. So

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Speaker 2: even when I've been grieving or when I'm traveling, it's like,

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Speaker 2: It's great? I love kettlebell Actually yeah yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: us for our paces. He looks like a Special Forces guy,

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Speaker 2: muscles and muscles and muscles, and he really makes us

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Speaker 1: I love I always envision like if I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Forces person is my teacher, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Even if there isn't one there, I imagine there's one there.

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Speaker 1: And you're in one of those like training camp in

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Speaker 1: Australia or something. Have you watched the tea I'm totally digressing.

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Speaker 1: Have you watched the TV show lions Oh? Watch it.

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Speaker 1: It's a special Forces all women and Zoe san Sandula

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say her last name is

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Speaker 1: the head of the Lionesses, and she's badass.

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Speaker 2: Would I want to be her?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? She's fit af They're all like in their off time,

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Speaker 1: like all training, they're all fit, like strong powerhouse women.

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Speaker 1: It is like flipping on and they're like saving the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I follow so many strong women on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: It's just that's my homework through it. No, but this

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Speaker 2: is really cook. It's all about like geo political stuff.

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Speaker 1: like really stopping bad stuff happening. But they're badass life. Yes, Lioness,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're going to be like Lola. You've

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Speaker 1: changed the game for me. I love it. What advice

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Speaker 1: would you have someone that's listening to this that might

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Speaker 1: be an aspiring author, writer, author for someone that's just

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Speaker 2: I am all about structure, and as you know chat before,

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Speaker 1: Is oh no, I'm your much more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Otherwise you can waste a lot of time sort

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Speaker 2: of going down a lot of rose. It is good, though,

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Speaker 2: They call it the vomit draft.

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Speaker 1: I've got a friend that when she writes painful chapters,

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Speaker 2: Okase she's kind of slightly dissociated, isn't.

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Speaker 1: That fascinating you actually a really good bass And then

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Speaker 1: For an introvert going to a party and they're just

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Speaker 1: really high and everyone's a someone, or you know, everyone

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Speaker 2: You might try and gamify it for yourself, like just

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Speaker 2: give yourself the task of finding out something really interesting

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Speaker 2: about anyone that you're talking to that will take you

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Speaker 2: make you listen more to what they're saying. And also

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Speaker 2: hopefully you'll have an inquisitive smile on your face, just

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Speaker 2: always encouraging for the other person.

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Speaker 1: I like the way you said gamify it as well,

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Speaker 1: because it makes it fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and give you a mission.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh yes, a missions. Final question my friend actually too,

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Speaker 1: because you've got a book, You've got books, so I

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Speaker 1: authors if they have a favorite book. Fiction, non fiction

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Holy Are you a fiction reader or do

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I tend to read more nonfiction because it

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Speaker 1: As well, of course it's working at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Look, it would probably be one of

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Speaker 2: John Ronson's books. He is a British journalist who also

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Speaker 2: people and gets to know them and yeah, frodster. But

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Speaker 2: his books are fascinating. He did one called them The

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Speaker 2: Men w Hysteric Goats, which was about weird cia. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: That sounds great? And then do yet this is your

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Speaker 1: final one? Do you have a hidden talent.

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Speaker 2: Apart from being able to burp on call?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't burp really, I can't, Like

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Speaker 1: I reckon I birth one?

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Speaker 2: See't you had a really fuzzy drink? Why? I'm jogged?

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Speaker 1: Like if if one comes, it comes, but like it

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I suppose I really love. I love teaching,

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Speaker 2: and I love sort of impassing information to people, and

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Speaker 2: because I used to work for book company book publishers,

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Speaker 2: and I can remember key things in my heads. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they've given me a little idiom, something that rhymes, or

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Speaker 2: just a little raw and so I love being able

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Speaker 2: to pass that kind of stuff on. You.

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Speaker 1: Can you chuck us one to close the pod? I'm

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Speaker 1: really throwing you on, throwing you curly ones, aren't I?

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Speaker 2: I actually came up with one of my own.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So people often can't remember the word cannon. Two meanings, right.

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Speaker 2: So there's a weapon and like a cannon of work,

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Speaker 2: and it's really hard to remember which is which. So

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Speaker 2: if you think about when it's got a double N,

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Speaker 2: it's like having two wheels of a cannon.

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Speaker 1: Got it? Love it?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I love it a little thing. Oh that's casey

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Speaker 2: ever needs to write that down somewhere.

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Speaker 1: No, I love it. Thank you You've helped me and

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Speaker 1: you've taught me so much today, and thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for bearing with me and making the pod happen

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Speaker 1: my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thank you