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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: wants answers now. And I finally have got to a

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Speaker 2: place where I've just accepted she's seven and she's going

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Speaker 2: to have a meltdown and it's not because I'm a

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Speaker 2: bad parent, and it's not because she's a bad kid.

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Speaker 2: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom

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Speaker 3: I kind of want to celebrate the fact that it's

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Speaker 3: the end of the week because it feels good to

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Speaker 3: get to Friday. But I'm also mindful that anyone who's

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Speaker 3: in lockdown right now, it just feels like another day,

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Speaker 3: and tomorrow will be another day, and it's just another

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Speaker 3: day if you're in lockdown. So to the half of

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Speaker 3: Australia who is in lockdown, you have our commiserations and

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Speaker 3: our sympathy.

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Speaker 1: But we're doing our best.

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Speaker 3: To live our lives to the fullest because we're not

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Speaker 3: not because we want to rub it in, but because

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Speaker 3: we recognize what a blessing and a privilege that it

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Speaker 3: is to be able to have a life, and.

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Speaker 2: We have no idea when it's going to be taken

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Speaker 2: away from us.

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Speaker 1: See yeah, yeah, who knows?

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Speaker 3: By the way we are Justin and Kile course when

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Speaker 3: with the parents of six kids on the founder of

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Speaker 3: Happy Families dot com, dot I you, and every Friday

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Speaker 3: we press pause on our lives and even press pause

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Speaker 3: on the podcast content I guess, and we do this

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Speaker 3: thing called o'ld do Better Tomorrow. If you were to

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Speaker 3: summarize o'ld do better Tomorrow, Kylie, how how would you

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Speaker 3: sum it up?

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Speaker 2: It's really an opportunity for us to reflect on the

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Speaker 2: week that we've had and the interactions that we've had

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Speaker 2: as parents with our children and sometimes with ourselves, and

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Speaker 2: to tease it apart a little bit, yeah, to really

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Speaker 2: kind of work out you know, we did we nail that?

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Speaker 2: Do we need to kind of talk about this? Do

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Speaker 2: we need to do better? Is there a room for improvement?

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Speaker 3: We believe that the best way to be a better

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Speaker 3: parent is to be intentional about parenting, and so this

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Speaker 3: is our chance to reflect and say, hmm, if I

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Speaker 3: was to revisit this week, what would I do better

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Speaker 3: if I had to start all over again tomorrow. So

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Speaker 3: that's the purpose of I'll Do Better Tomorrow. We're going

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Speaker 3: to share one reflection each based on the week that

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Speaker 3: was and highlightly, what we or what we need to

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Speaker 3: do better tomorrow to make it work, and I'm going

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Speaker 3: to go first.

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Speaker 1: Do you mind? Never? Okay?

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Speaker 3: So last Saturday we had pretty much several days in bed.

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Speaker 3: Both had colds, both been fluey. We were still dealing

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Speaker 3: with a little bit of the residue of that. Pretended

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Speaker 3: not to be but it's been a really tough week.

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Speaker 3: Spent a lot more time in bed than normal, and

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Speaker 3: by Saturday I was just climbing the walls. It was like,

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Speaker 3: on and thought, we need to do something outside, away

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Speaker 3: The kids didn't want to everyone was moaning and complaining.

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Speaker 2: An hour and a half in the car is never well.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know where we were going to go.

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Speaker 3: want to do something. Ninety minutes later, we pulled up

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Speaker 3: out the front of a wonderful outdoor recreation area, not sponsored.

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Speaker 3: kids to Bellingham Maze. It's literally one of those hedge

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Speaker 1: And the wind with the kids exploring.

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Speaker 2: So it was probably a little bit adventurous for us,

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Speaker 2: extra energy required to walk around the maze. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how many times we walked in and out of

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Speaker 2: But the kids just loved it. And I know at

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Speaker 2: Because I had a really good look at the map

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Speaker 3: They still hadn't made it to the middle, and You're like,

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Speaker 2: Emily she worked it out. There was a little few

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Speaker 1: Crawl through, Like no, no, no, no, that's against the rules.

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Speaker 2: Well, not only is it against the rules, they'd worked

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Speaker 3: It took them about forty five minutes to get to

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Speaker 3: I learned something as well. I learned that a labyrinth

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Speaker 3: Like in a maze, you can get lost and there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole idea with the labyrinth is that it's

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Speaker 1: That's the way they're design. It's fascinating and so.

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Speaker 2: Well you did say that because as I walked in,

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Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing. Yeah, so labyrinth is not a maze.

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Speaker 3: A labyrinth is an ancient design that takes you from

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Speaker 3: maze that the kids explored. We learned stuff. The kids

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you destroyed her destroyed it. It's like you enjoyed.

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Speaker 2: Thought I was not going to get anywhere. But the

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Speaker 2: highlight of my day was we did a game of

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Speaker 1: End, and yes, are you going to skyte about.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just going to highlight Bellingham Maye does need

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Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna blame it on the surface now, Yes,

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Speaker 2: you were very, very surprised when I got my hole

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty cool. Anyway, I'll do better tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a bit of a travelog and we've

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Speaker 1: It just was a terrific day. So I'll do better tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Something again tomorrow that doesn't require a ninety minute car drive,

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Speaker 2: Happy Famili's podcast, the podcast for the time poor parent

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Speaker 2: who just wants answers now, and today we're sharing our

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Speaker 2: reflections from the week that was okay.

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Speaker 1: So I had a win.

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Speaker 1: What's yours, I'll do better tomorrow, Kyli.

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Speaker 2: So my reflection comes from an experience that we had

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Speaker 3: If you're a parent who gets really, really really really

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Speaker 3: that comes from relaxing, and this is where you're going, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So she had an absolute meltdown. So we invited

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Speaker 2: two families over. We haven't seen them for ages. With

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Speaker 1: Explosiveness massive.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I have struggled with over

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Speaker 2: the years is you have founded happy families and then

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Speaker 2: shared all of your parenting advice.

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Speaker 1: How to make families happy.

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Speaker 2: Is I have really really struggled with dealing with the

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Speaker 1: Well, when they're not happy themselves.

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Speaker 2: When they're not happy that's right, and feeling like there's

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Speaker 2: that why would our children be like that? Because our

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Speaker 3: So what you're saying is every parent experiences parent guilt

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Speaker 3: or embarrassment when the kids behave in ways that are

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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, a little.

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Speaker 1: So the meltdone happened in front of these two friends.

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Speaker 2: it's nine thirty at night. She should have been asleep

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Speaker 2: and so I let her have her little tantrum. I

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Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't. She was not interested at all in

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: I know I've just cut you off. I'm sorry to

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Speaker 3: And the reality is sometimes there is nothing that you

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Speaker 3: there's no connection that will be accepted. Sometimes it's nine

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Speaker 2: So I took it down to her room.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to put that out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I took it down to her room. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: As my dad would say, happy as Larry, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: as I would say, who's Larry and Dad would say

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Speaker 2: And so I guess my take home is that number one,

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Speaker 2: about Emily? Right now? This is terrible. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: I'm really glad you shared that one. I do remember

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Speaker 3: how calmly you dealt with her screams. You were so

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Speaker 3: why you feel bad, because she was like, come, I'm

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Speaker 1: Needed to figure herself out.

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Speaker 3: It's not a great story. I'll do better tomorrow. We

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Speaker 1: Hey, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 3: We hope that you get to spend some high quality

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Speaker 3: time with your family this weekend. Happy Families podcast as

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