WEBVTT - SAM TALKS EX'S INCLUDING. JOSH, DREW & EVEN BIG BROTHER

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week The Light. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>and streaming services today. On the podcast, I have the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother love bird Sam the latest DIVICTI has been

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<v Speaker 1>dating good guy turned bad boy Drew. The twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two love story has been blown up officially with Samming's

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<v Speaker 1>second eviction. The series was promoted heavily with this year's romance,

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<v Speaker 1>as fans were keen to see how this relationship would

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<v Speaker 1>play out. After all, Drew from twenty thirteen was back

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<v Speaker 1>living with his ex Tully, also from twenty thirteen. The

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<v Speaker 1>two have been quite the talk of the Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>world for nearly ten years. So how was Sam going

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<v Speaker 1>to fit into that dynamic? Well, if you ask me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was always going to be front and center. Well

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<v Speaker 1>until now we will talk new and old alliances, ex

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriends now Drew and Josh. How Sam was cast on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, and well, so many rumors that I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Santa Claus ticking off a Christmas list. We did

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<v Speaker 1>have a few glitches along the way, so I do

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for any frustration, but I think I have cleaned

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<v Speaker 1>it up as much as possible. However, let's get started

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<v Speaker 1>with today's guest. I'd like to welcome Sam Minofski to

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really hurtful. You know, I've put so much

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<v Speaker 2>of my trust in this person this year. It's my

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<v Speaker 2>twenty first birthday. Those three guys definitely feel like my rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've invited housemates both new and legendary. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>just can't live together. We'll experience enough to take on

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<v Speaker 2>the next generation of housemaids. There was still a few

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<v Speaker 2>things that were a bit sticky between the two of

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<v Speaker 2>them and the new contenders.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll git big Brother royalty.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of emotional connections and I played

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<v Speaker 2>from my heart, this is big brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Sam, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you very well? Thank you thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all the fields well, congratulations on your time on

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother. Was the experience anything like you thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would be?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. You cannot prepare. You cannot prepare for that experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Big Brother just doesn't allow for that. Big Brother is

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<v Speaker 2>just unpredictable. So yeah, there's nothing that I could have

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<v Speaker 2>done to prepare myself for what I experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was an interesting start for you because Josh

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<v Speaker 1>really blew up your game very early on. What has

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship been like with Josh since Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have unfortunately we discontinued our friendship. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that it's for the best for both of us at

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<v Speaker 2>this stage. My feelings for Sam, to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>haven't changed.

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<v Speaker 3>She's my dream girl and I want her back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. There was a few rumors that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>floated around because of him, and he was telling everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia that he got you onto the show. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you got a different version of that story? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is it true that he got you into the series?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. As far as I know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not part of the casting team. I received a phone

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<v Speaker 2>call from the producers and they shared with me that

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<v Speaker 2>they loved what they saw on my Instagram account. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well I'm aware of is that they loved me from Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got myself on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a couple of other rumors floated around that

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<v Speaker 1>you may have met Drew prior to the show. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it true that you'd exchange numbers Withdrew in Melbourne at

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<v Speaker 1>a chance meeting?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like when I I did not know him before

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<v Speaker 2>going into the show. My friends told me that there

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<v Speaker 2>was one night back at the Saint in twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>or I don't know. I can't even remember when I've

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<v Speaker 2>just been to the Saint once. I remember the birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, you've given Drew your number before. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I gave a lot of guys my number that year.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, like when he fits into it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't even know what Drew looked like

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<v Speaker 2>in this year going into the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So when did you know that Drew was

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<v Speaker 1>going into the series? Because there was this other rumor

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<v Speaker 1>going around that you'd found out that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>into this series while you're in lockdown? Is that also

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<v Speaker 1>not true?

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<v Speaker 2>That's not true. No, I found that Drew was coming

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<v Speaker 2>into the house when he popped his head out of

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<v Speaker 2>the deck. That's when I found that Andrew was coming

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<v Speaker 2>in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if Drew wasn't in the show, would things have

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<v Speaker 1>played out any differently between you and Josh. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like that ship at it resale from your perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>No, nothing would have changed my feelings towards Josh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Drew came in after Josh, so Drew has nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They're too separate. But I hope that he does what

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to do, take down the ultimate player

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<v Speaker 2>of the game, Tim. If Drew is the one to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, oh my god, that would be the best, like.

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<v Speaker 1>The best outcome. When you left, you seem pretty confident

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<v Speaker 1>that Drew would try and take Tim out of the competition.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is the opposite of what's kind of happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that put a strain on your relationship after you

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<v Speaker 1>left the show?

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<v Speaker 2>The way Drew played the game and the way I

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<v Speaker 2>played the game was very different. I had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of emotional connections and I played from my heart. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in the end didn't really influence the way

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<v Speaker 2>like our relationship after the show. We have different lifestyle choices,

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<v Speaker 2>We're very different people. He's a very busy guy, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here on the Sunshine Coast, and we weren't. Neither

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<v Speaker 2>of us were wanting to move for each other. So

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<v Speaker 2>those are the sorts of things that impacted our relationship

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<v Speaker 2>posts Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean it's like the movie Speed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where Sandra Bullock says to Keanu Reeves. You know, relationships

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<v Speaker 1>based on extreme situations never work out. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brothers kind of like the movie Speed, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. Big Brothers like a vortex. It's a completely

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<v Speaker 2>different world. It's not the same as what it is

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<v Speaker 2>out here. It's just not reality. Even though it's Reality TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything inside the house is real. The emotions are real,

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<v Speaker 2>the experiences are real. The context is not real. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have TVs, we have mobile phones, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>whole world out here that is not what Big Brother is.

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<v Speaker 1>The viewers and some housemates have all weighed in on

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship with Drew. What do you say when people

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<v Speaker 1>had made comment that you know you were more into

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<v Speaker 1>Drew than he was into.

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<v Speaker 2>You think, I think that you know, people are entire

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<v Speaker 2>their opinion, and I guess I know what's true, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know what Drew and I shared. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really pay too much of stuff like that because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's not true. But for those people who are

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<v Speaker 2>questioning the relationship between Drew and I, look like it

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<v Speaker 2>was reciprocated and it was very Yeah, it wasn't one

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<v Speaker 2>sided at all. Definitely not and you'll get to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been reading the comments online? Like how are

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<v Speaker 1>you coping with you know, now being in the spotlight

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I have been reading some of the comments. I

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<v Speaker 2>really don't have a lot of time. I'm busy, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a lot of clients to deal with. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of stuff happening in my life. I

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<v Speaker 2>do receive a lot of beautiful feedback and I do

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<v Speaker 2>have time for that. And sometimes I respond to the

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<v Speaker 2>fans and thank them. Then I see the phade kise

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, you have gone to the nth

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<v Speaker 2>degree to actually get onto my account and share some

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<v Speaker 2>really horrible things and you don't know anything about me.

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<v Speaker 2>For those people, I just don't allow time and space

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<v Speaker 2>for them in my world. Like, I've got better things

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<v Speaker 2>to do than worry about people who don't know me.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the one thing that people come up and say

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<v Speaker 1>to you on the street. So when you're walking around

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<v Speaker 1>up on the Sunshine Coast, you know, what are people

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<v Speaker 1>coming up and saying to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've flown back and forth from Melbourne, so I've been

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<v Speaker 2>seen at the airport a bit. They love me on

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<v Speaker 2>the show asking about Drew and I. It's just like

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<v Speaker 2>positive feedback, really happy to meet me. Just really beautiful people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the conversation with Joel was pretty hectic that

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<v Speaker 1>Drew managed to have. Were you disappointed to see that

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<v Speaker 1>Drew was having that conversation. I mean he seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be the instigator in that conversation with Joel, making a

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<v Speaker 1>pact that you know, they would both get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>their girlfriends. I mean, how did that play out for

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<v Speaker 1>you when you finally saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Look, when I saw that, it was really hurtful.

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<v Speaker 2>My heart did sink and I did feel quite triggered it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just gave me a proposition that he would take

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<v Speaker 1>out Alicia down the track if I can get Sam

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<v Speaker 1>be evicted.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bottleneck. It was really hurtful. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>put so much of my trust in this person, and

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<v Speaker 2>that completely changed my experience in the house, and had

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<v Speaker 2>he been honest with me from the Gecko, I probably

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<v Speaker 2>would have had my own independent space and gain to

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<v Speaker 2>play rather than being merged with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, you'd have been able to make some

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<v Speaker 1>great relationships inside the house. Who has been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the strongest relationship that you've built in your Big Brother

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<v Speaker 1>experience long term.

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<v Speaker 2>So I expected Tim and to us regularly. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just spected Johnson regularly. And it has been really beautiful dad,

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<v Speaker 2>just to have that support. You know, Tim has had

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<v Speaker 2>the experience of being in the house. To Rus is

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<v Speaker 2>just so truthful and honest and we'll just call me

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<v Speaker 2>into integrity and and you know, speak so many beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>words to me. And Johnson's just amazing for a laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>So those three guys definitely feel like my rocks in

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<v Speaker 2>this in this experience hosts the Big brother have. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in regular contact with Alisha as well. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>been nice just to have that support.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting that with Tully, you know, she really wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>redemption storyline coming back into the show. You know, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that she went. Do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>she was able to redeem you know, a different storyline

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<v Speaker 1>for herself being in the show this time around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, I think it would have helped that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Drew was preoccupied, so that would have kept the whole

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<v Speaker 2>story separate.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it feel living with your ex boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I'm not gonna lie, it's a bit awkward. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're actually very well suited and it's quite sweet

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<v Speaker 3>most of the time, but being all cute and romantic

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<v Speaker 3>literally directly opposite me, it's just like, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>a creep.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that she was still dragged into the storyline

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<v Speaker 2>a bit, and look, it was really cool just to

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<v Speaker 2>watch her stand on her own two feet, and as

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<v Speaker 2>she evolves in the show, she does really find her

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<v Speaker 2>feet away from Drew, because there was still a few

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<v Speaker 2>things that were a bit sticky between the two of them,

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<v Speaker 2>where she didn't vote for me to leave Andrew's birthday

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<v Speaker 2>and that that just sort of shows that she's still

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, you know, in connection with him.

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<v Speaker 1>She still has a friendship with him, She still has.

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<v Speaker 2>A friendship with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, the Ogs seemed to be imploding at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of tonight's episode. You know, we really got

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<v Speaker 1>to see a tease of you know, Estelle and Tim

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<v Speaker 1>starting to lock horns. You know what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>has made the Ogs lose grip on the competition?

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<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I feel that you have two people

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<v Speaker 2>playing very different games, and you know, too many cooks

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<v Speaker 2>spoil the broths. So I think that Tim is very

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<v Speaker 2>strategic and he has such a brilliant mind and he

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<v Speaker 2>has this ability to see people's gifts and see, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what works with them and what doesn't, whereas Estelle I

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<v Speaker 2>think plays more into the emotions. I think, yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>just a difference there. You know, Tim's quite straight up

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<v Speaker 2>and transparent, and I think that it can be quite

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<v Speaker 2>triggering and an explosive blow up. You know what, Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>just shut up.

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<v Speaker 3>You push people, and you push people and you push people.

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<v Speaker 1>Has the original housemates on the verge of collapse have

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of decorum?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you could just leave it for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Game.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you push people when they're already dealing shit?

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<v Speaker 1>The Ogs are imploating and it's about time. Interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>you were saying about, you know, the dynamics of Tim

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<v Speaker 1>and a Stelle. You know, do you think that they

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<v Speaker 1>are controlling the OG's game? Do you think that they

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<v Speaker 1>are the people in charge of how that whole system

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<v Speaker 1>is running.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Tim and no Stelle are definitely leading

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<v Speaker 2>the park for the Ogs. Team's playing his own game,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely playing his own game, and Estelle is attached to

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<v Speaker 2>this like pack mentality. He's got to go, He's gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>We cannot twist it was someone removes the Tully question

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<v Speaker 1>the question marks gone. Yeah, and Alicia was really emotional

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<v Speaker 1>in the elimination room. Did you know where her vote

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<v Speaker 1>was going at that stage?

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard, Toll. It's really hard to predict what

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<v Speaker 2>will happen in an eviction ceremony because we are still

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<v Speaker 2>scrambling at that point, We're still fighting for our position

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<v Speaker 2>in the house. I could see Alicia was struggling and

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<v Speaker 2>she had to make a choice that was better for

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<v Speaker 2>her game. So may being so vogue and unpredictable in

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<v Speaker 2>my own game, Yeah, I think that she was really

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<v Speaker 2>struggling to choose because we did have a really solid

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<v Speaker 2>friendship in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Has your relationship changed with what now seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>the real world versus Big Brother? I mean, you're inside

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<v Speaker 1>a social experiment, and I know this for myself. Some

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<v Speaker 1>relationships feel stronger in the house, and then they seem

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<v Speaker 1>to disintegrate after the show. You know what has been

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest evolution of friendship since the show has come

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<v Speaker 1>to an end.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest evolution of friendship has definitely been with Tim Trass.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Trass and I had this one conversation at

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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning of the game and I just remember thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is a legend. I love him. I felt

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<v Speaker 2>an instant connection with him, and I just thought, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really need to put much effort into this friendship

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<v Speaker 2>because it was just this knowing that we just get

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<v Speaker 2>each other. So I think, to my detriment, not having

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<v Speaker 2>put enough energy into that friendship obviously caused me issues

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<v Speaker 2>later on in the game. But since leaving the house,

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<v Speaker 2>we have just become such solid friends. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I share some of my deepest fears with him and

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<v Speaker 2>he just gives me some of the best advice. And

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<v Speaker 2>same with Tim. You know, Tim and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>very similar or. We had a really beautiful start. We

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<v Speaker 2>were really close. I was sleeping on the og side

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<v Speaker 2>of the house, and we just really connected spiritually and

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<v Speaker 2>mentally and yeah, emotionally. We had some really deep conversations

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it helps that I didn't know him

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<v Speaker 2>from Big Brother because I didn't have that like star

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<v Speaker 2>kind of I didn't have stars in my eyes when

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<v Speaker 2>I was having conversation. I wasn't starstruck, that's the word.

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<v Speaker 2>And Yeah, since the show has ended, he's been a

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<v Speaker 2>massive support as well, and I'm probably going to collaborate

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<v Speaker 2>together in the future with some work. And we've just

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<v Speaker 2>had some really great conversations. Like I said, he has

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<v Speaker 2>a brilliant mind. He's really good at helping people better

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<v Speaker 2>understand themselves because he sees things for what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's a really beautiful skill. And

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<v Speaker 2>it obviously served you well in the game because he

0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.280
<v Speaker 2>was able to use that to his advantage. But in

0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the outside world, he doesn't use it in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>He don't use that skill in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Tim really seem to have it in for

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<v Speaker 1>you during the show. You know what made you his

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<v Speaker 1>biggest target? Do you think it was just simply that

0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you were taking away his mate from him and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the problem fell down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think history has a way of repeating itself,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Like I took away Drew's attention. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that for Tim's game it would have been

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<v Speaker 2>more fun to have just his best mate back in

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<v Speaker 2>the house, and unfortunately he didn't have that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>instead made an enemy out of his friend by coming

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so strange, you know. I was reading yesterday online

0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.160
<v Speaker 1>people were saying, maybe Tim has the secret hots for Drew.

0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that there's any truth in that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody would secretly have the hots for Drew.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very charismatic and charming. He's just got those beautiful

0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.640
<v Speaker 2>blue eyes, and he's very dreamy.

0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm like I think everyone, I mean, even myself,

0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes when I've been out with Drew because we're friends,

0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll be like, this man is just so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Only human, Ben really human.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that your second chance to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>the house was fair gameplay? Because you know, you were

0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.160
<v Speaker 1>eliminated fairly and you kind of walked out and then

0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.000
<v Speaker 1>just pulled the streamer and then all of a sudden

0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you're back into the show. Do you think some of

0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.960
<v Speaker 1>those twists that Big Brother plays with the housemates are

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<v Speaker 1>fair because not everyone got a second chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean definitely. It was an opportunity for me

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<v Speaker 2>to come back, and I had this master plan to

0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.920
<v Speaker 2>get Tim, and unfortunately I didn't. I didn't get enough

0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.440
<v Speaker 2>people behind it. I didn't realize that Johnson and Tim

0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.600
<v Speaker 2>had made a deal, and that makes sense now why

0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.640
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't in support of it. So yeah, I did

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<v Speaker 2>really try to utilize my second chance challenge or not challenge,

0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.720
<v Speaker 2>so just my second chance. But yeah, we don't get

0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.440
<v Speaker 2>to see all that sort of stuff. We don't get

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<v Speaker 2>to see what happens behind the scenes, you know, where

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<v Speaker 2>I was really rallying up this strategy, working with a

0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.520
<v Speaker 2>few people in the house, like to rass. We had

0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:09.160
<v Speaker 2>had a few conversations around some strategies around that, but yeah,

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.920
<v Speaker 2>it didn't it didn't, unfortunately work out that way. Turns

0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:15.480
<v Speaker 2>out I'm not that great at playing your brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's one way of looking at it. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time as well, you know, hindsight is a

0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 1>beautiful thing. You know, watching the show back is a

0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.480
<v Speaker 1>completely different thing to what it's like to be in

0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.639
<v Speaker 1>there twenty four hours a day. It's a completely different

0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.800
<v Speaker 1>experience and you can think, oh, wow, I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>would have done that differently, but that's just isn't how

0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.560
<v Speaker 1>it happens. That's not how it falls down, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally, And like the emotions, the adrenaline, the sleep deprivation,

0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the filip through deprivation, all of these catalysts for drama,

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.959
<v Speaker 2>which is what happens. You know, they're just fires, are

0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.439
<v Speaker 2>just setting off left, right and center. So it's like

0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.520
<v Speaker 2>really hard to hold your ground and stay centered it

0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:04.040
<v Speaker 2>when you have so many moving parts in a small

0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 2>space with a lot of people, and then you have

0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:14.440
<v Speaker 2>big brother who's just sate. It's so sadistic. So yeah,

0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 2>of course it's it's amazing looking from the outside in.

0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.679
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, being in the house is just a completely

0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.280
<v Speaker 2>different experience to watching myself.

0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Now, how are you going watching it? Like do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to drink a bottle of wine? Do you have

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.720
<v Speaker 1>to do yoga beforehand? And afterwards? Like how has the

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<v Speaker 1>experience been for you?

0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Watching the show back, I'm literally screaming at myself. I

0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 2>know what happens, but then I'm just like, don't do it,

0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:43.680
<v Speaker 2>don't do it. Sometimes I've had wine and sometimes I've

0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.919
<v Speaker 2>done yoga. I've done both. I'm a bit of a

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.160
<v Speaker 2>libra like that. I like to keep things im balance.

0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I've watched it with friends. Sometimes I've watched it alone.

0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 2>It's been a really interesting experience watching back and just seeing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just seeing how I hold myself. I'm pretty proud of myself,

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.639
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, I think that I like

0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.160
<v Speaker 2>just the work that I've done. I'm not the same

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.879
<v Speaker 2>person I was many years ago, and I just feel

0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.679
<v Speaker 2>like the way that I stood up for myself, the

0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>way that I backed myself, I've never had that before,

0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and Big Brother gave me that. I've never had self

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 2>belief in the way that I experienced in the house.

0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.159
<v Speaker 2>So even though I wasn't playing the best game, I

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 2>played my best game and I was my best self.

0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 1>It's also strange because I mean, you know, you did

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 1>really end up kind of playing this game with Drew.

0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, in hindsight now, do you wish that you

0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 1>had parked the relationship with Drew. Do you think that

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it would have been better for you to play your

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<v Speaker 1>own game and not be in that relationship and then

0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe have a cheeky patch with them at the after party.

0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 2>The issue with Drew and I is that, like we

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.199
<v Speaker 2>had this little love bubble that we were in, but

0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:53.560
<v Speaker 2>we didn't actually play the game together. I wasn't really

0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.239
<v Speaker 2>voting the same way he was. I was voting in

0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.679
<v Speaker 2>a way that was sort of like who I connected with.

0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I was playing with my heart, playing a social game.

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.920
<v Speaker 2>He was way more strategic. And I think that we've

0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 2>clashed there. But being in a relationship in the house

0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.560
<v Speaker 2>definitely hindered my game, and it, you know, was something

0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:12.639
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't want to do. My intention was not

0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:17.560
<v Speaker 2>to get involved with anybody coming into the house. However, Yeah,

0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.240
<v Speaker 2>we just clicked. We had so much fun together. We

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 2>just laughed all day every day and it was great.

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 2>So I wouldn't change it, but it did, it did.

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.440
<v Speaker 2>It did impact my experience for sure.

0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that he doesn't get along with

0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Estelle in the house? I mean you would expect that

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.160
<v Speaker 1>because those who had met outside of the house and

0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>had a friendship, and you know, they're both Big Brother alumni.

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're the ogs. You know, why do you

0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>think they clashed so much inside the Big Brother House?

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Ah? I think they clashed because a Stell is quite

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 2>driven by her emotions and Drew. Yeah, Drew just really

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 2>wasn't available for that, and he just he doesn't like

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a winge and a complainer or anything like that. And

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I think they clushed because you know, they had misinterpreted

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 2>each other. Stelle had something to say about a lot

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 2>of things in the house, and then Drew had a

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 2>lot to say about what a Stelle would say about

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:12.879
<v Speaker 2>all the things in the house. So some people just

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:13.679
<v Speaker 2>can't live together.

0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 1>What sort of advice are you going to give to

0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 1>people when they come up and say, I want to

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:18.919
<v Speaker 1>do a Big Brother? Have you got any advice for

0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 1>future housemates?

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? For future housemates, I would advise staying true to yourself,

0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 2>don't compromise on your integrity whatsoever, and play a smart

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 2>game by doing that, Like, just make alliances, build friendships,

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.120
<v Speaker 2>create a solid crew of people who you can trust.

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Trust is the currency of the house, as is truth.

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.120
<v Speaker 2>And have fun. Have so much fun, don't get too

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:47.000
<v Speaker 2>caught up in your head.

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yep, easy said than done, but I reckon that's definitely

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>some good advice, you know, to celebrate twenty one years

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>of you know, Big Brothers. Since Big Brothers been on television,

0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been on the podcast using retel Colleen's top ten

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 1>questions that she would ask housemates when they would leave

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the original Big Brother So I'm going to run through

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 1>these questions with you. Are you prepared?

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I am?

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>What did you miss the most while you're inside the

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Big Brother House?

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I missed my family support most whilst I was in

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the house.

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Who was your favorite person inside the house?

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 2>My favorite person in the house would have to be Johnson.

0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>What was your Who was your least favorite person?

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Lara?

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Who had the most annoying habit inside the house?

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the most annoying habit? JC? He left his like

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<v Speaker 2>beard trimmings all over the sink.

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<v Speaker 1>So annoying, That's disgusting. Who was the funniest person in

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<v Speaker 1>the house?

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<v Speaker 2>Tim? Actually sorry, I'd take that back to Ras is

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<v Speaker 2>the funniest in the house hands down, because he has

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<v Speaker 2>a dark sense of humor and I just love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. What was or who was the laziest

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<v Speaker 1>person in the house?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably on Park Gabs and Leash.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone says those two, They must have been really lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your greatest regret now that you've left the house.

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<v Speaker 2>My greatest regret was not playing my own game and

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<v Speaker 2>getting swept up in a love story.

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<v Speaker 1>And who will be out next? Not what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but like when you left the show, who did you

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<v Speaker 1>think would follow you after your elimination based.

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<v Speaker 2>On the conversations that I had, I think the next

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<v Speaker 2>person to be eliminated is potentially Stell And who do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think will win Big Brother twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I was, yeah, look, I really connected with Johnson and

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<v Speaker 2>him being a super fan. You know, I just love that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard. It's really hard because there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>amazing people in the house. But yeah, leaving the house Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson and I really clicked and I really saw a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful side to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing. Well, they're the questions. But the last question

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<v Speaker 1>I asked everyone who joins the podcast is what's something

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<v Speaker 1>from behind the scenes that we as an audience didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see and that we won't see. But something is behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes secret of your time on Big.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother three way love Affair that Drew and I had

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<v Speaker 2>this Big Brother. So when Drew and I were having

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<v Speaker 2>moments like we do a lot of kissing, but we

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of kissing in private rooms like the

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<v Speaker 2>tree house, but no one was around, and Big Brother

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<v Speaker 2>would always liked to join the conversation and give us

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of who tease us a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Australia we will see that. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that would have been really weird for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean not everyone's had a three way with big brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey no, no, yeah, you walk that was great though.

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<v Speaker 1>You can walk away with that. You can walk away

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Maybe not the winner of Big Brother, but

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<v Speaker 1>the winner of having a three way with big brother

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<v Speaker 1>who's not your real brother. So that's less creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, less creepy, and way more sexy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Dam I absolutely love being able to catch up with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were fantastic on the show, probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most talked about housemates this year, especially inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Newbie Realm. Thanks for spending the time unpacking your

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<v Speaker 1>big Brother experience. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Ben. I really appreciate having having me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just been such a great conversation.