1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily os. It's Thursday, 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the twenty second of April. My name is Sam Keazloski, 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: and helping me make sense of today's news is Zara Sidelin. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Making news today, Chauven found guilty, Super League meltdown, some 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: good news about Venezuela. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: And a deeper look at yesterday's conviction. Here's today's daily digest. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: A jury has found former police officer Derek Chauvin guilty 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: of the murder of George Floyd. Chauven was found guilty 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: on all three charges against him, second degree murder, third 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: degree murder, and second degree manslaughter. Judge Peter K. Hill 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: revoked Chauven's bail after the verdict. He will await sentencing 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: now in jail, Chauven will face sentencing in eight weeks, 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: where he could face up to forty years behind bars. 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: Now to the story that Sam has been trying to 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: make me care about all week, The future of the 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: European Super League proposal is uncertain, with all six English 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: Premier League teams announcing their withdrawal after intense backlash from fans, commentators, 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: former players, and the wider community. 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: And Sam. 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: The super League wrote in a statement. Given the circumstances, 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: we shall reconsider the most appropriate steps to reshape the project, 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: always having in mind our goals of offering fans the 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: best experience possible while enhancing solidarity payments for the entire 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: football community. 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: Chad's President Idris Deby, has died of injuries following clashes 26 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: with rebels in the north of the country. His death 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: comes a day after he was announced winner of the 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: country's election. The government and parliament have now been dissolved, 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: while a curfew has been put in place with borders shut. 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Devi's son has been named interim president by a transitional 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: council of military officers. 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: To the good News, the United Nations World Food Program 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: and Venezuelan officials have reached a deal to provide food 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: to one hundred and eighty five thousand school children this year. 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: Humanitarian groups have previously urged Venezuela's President Nicholas Maduro to 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: allow WFP to distribute food aid there. The program aims 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: to reach one point five million children by the end 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty two to twenty three school year. SAM, 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: it would be remiss of us to talk about anything 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: other than the Derek chauvint trial. Given how monumental it 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: was both for the US and for the world, we 42 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: were both up watching it at six am our time, 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: just glued to the TV, trying to understand what would 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: happen and what the ramifications would be for the US, 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: mostly in the criminal justice system and the way the 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: justices served. When I was watching coverage of the case yesterday, 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: it was referred to as a landmark case and that 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: it was a major breakthrough. Is this when we'll start 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: to see convictions for those in law enforcement for the 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: overuse of power like we saw in the Derek Chauvin case. 51 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Law enforcement experts noted yesterday how very rare it was 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: that police officers involved in a high profile and sometimes 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: deadly on duty incident actually faced criminal charges and then 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: was convicted, And I thought it'd be interesting to chat 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: through some of the parts of the US justice system 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: that make it really hard to get convincetions for police 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: officers who are involved in the deadly incident on duty. So, 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: if you're to take away one key idea from today's podcast, 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: it's this police are allowed to use force on duty 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: in the US. The keyword that the jury and the 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: judge explore in cases like the George Floyd murder trial 62 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: is excessive use of force. The current standard in the 63 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: court for police use of force is from nineteen eighty 64 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: nine a U. S. Supreme Court decision, and that says 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: that force must be objectively reasonable and it notes that 66 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: officers are often forced to make split second judgments in 67 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: circumstances that are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving. This is 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: why it's so hard to convict a law enforcement officer 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: in the US, because it's very easy for the defense 70 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: to plant a seed of doubt in the jury that 71 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: the use of force in this rapidly changing environment of 72 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: an arrest or of an incident was reasonable. There's another 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: really interesting factor that came into play in the Derek 74 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Chauvin case, and that's called the blue wall of silence. 75 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: The blue wall of sign is essentially an idea that 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: police officers and law enforcement professionals protect other police officers 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: and law enforcement professionals, especially when they're called to the 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: stand in a criminal trial. The blue wall of silence 79 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: is unwritten, but, as the head of the Duke University 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: Law School Brendan Garrett says, in past cases, the blue 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: wall of silence provides cover around an officer accused of 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: using deadly force, inhibiting cops from speaking out against others 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: in their police department. In this case, however, the Minneapolis 84 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: Police chief testified that Chauvin should have stopped kneeling on 85 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: George Floyd's neck when he stopped resisting and became non responsive. 86 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: He even went as far as saying that he was 87 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: wrong to apply that level of force to a person 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: prone doubt handcuffed behind their back. It was a reason 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: the prosecutors highlighted as a major part of their successful case. 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: So, if we're to go back to my initial question, 91 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: do experts and commentators think that now that we've had 92 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: this major conviction, that this will lead to more convictions 93 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: in the space. So last week we saw an unarmed 94 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: black man, Dante Wright, killed by a policeman. The experts 95 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: in the field now see this as a turning point 96 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: or just one case of many. 97 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: Sam Agua, one of the attorneys representing the family of 98 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Briona Taylor, who was killed in her home by police, 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: believes that the George Floyd chapter of American police history 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: is indeed a turning point and the reason why he 101 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: says that is because we saw over the last eleven 102 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: months police chiefs and police departments themselves coming out and 103 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: noting that the excessive use of force is not okay. 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: Do you think that's because of how much media and 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: world detention there was on this case. I just don't 106 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: see how they could have said anything other than what 107 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: they did say. What a case that was perhaps less 108 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: high profile have resulted in the same outcome. 109 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: The Washington Post estimates that about five thousand people in 110 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: America have been shot and killed by police since twenty fifteen. 111 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: So the answer to your question really is no. This 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: case and the media that was associated with it was 113 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: unique because its secured conviction in the bright light of 114 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the world's attention. 115 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: And if you're interested about how the Australian justice system 116 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: deals with desthline custody, head to our Instagram. Yesterday we 117 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: wrote an explainer on why there have been zero convictions 118 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: on Indigenous deaths in custody since nineteen ninety one. That's 119 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: all we have time for today. It's been a very 120 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: big twenty four hours in the news cycle. 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