WEBVTT - FACT: People Are Hotter In Melbourne 🔥❤️️

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Rooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Helloelo Or, welcome back to the podcast. It's Monday, the

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<v Speaker 1>tenth of July. We are back from holidays. Thanks everyone

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<v Speaker 1>for letting us live. I was in Melbourne chillin', drove

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<v Speaker 1>to Melbourne, got my car service. Shout out to whoever

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<v Speaker 1>serviced that I don't know something my dad organized. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be honest, that's still fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm want to learn how to change

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<v Speaker 1>my oil never.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need to learn that.

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<v Speaker 1>But on today's show, I think that nature is healing.

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<v Speaker 1>I did go on a walk when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales and I need to recap with everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex also says that people in Melbourne hotter.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no I have said that.

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<v Speaker 4>I take it back, but it's an assessment made by

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<v Speaker 4>a VIP listener who worries how I ever lived in

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<v Speaker 4>Sydney for so long, given that from the perspective, everyone's

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<v Speaker 4>ugly and I am not.

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go here's the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Babe, Mummy, can I listen to Flex and Frooms? Flex

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<v Speaker 2>and Rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm cat Flex.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that in eighteenth cent England, rich people

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<v Speaker 1>employed hermits as garden nomes. They dressed them up as

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<v Speaker 1>gnomes and made them sign seven year leases where they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't speak to anyone. They just had to potter around

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<v Speaker 1>the garden in a little noome costume.

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<v Speaker 2>Is your culture?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, you know what, it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we get some more information? Can we get some

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<v Speaker 4>more information? Can we get ethnicity of nomes? Is it

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<v Speaker 4>going where I think it's going? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, definitely not. But I did, I did wonder and

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<v Speaker 1>I brought in this break.

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<v Speaker 3>What was it called?

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<v Speaker 2>They're called.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, babe, I know what gardenme is.

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<v Speaker 1>They're called ornamental hermits. Ornamental hermits happening?

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<v Speaker 4>What if the definition of a hermit? Because I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 4>like a homebody, But what's the traditional root?

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<v Speaker 3>It's this.

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<v Speaker 1>So garden hermits or ornamental hermits were people encouraged to

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<v Speaker 1>live alone in purpose built hermitages, foils, grottoes, or rockeries

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<v Speaker 1>on the estates of wealthy landowners, primarily in the eighteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Such hermits would be encouraged to remain permanently on site,

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<v Speaker 1>where they could be fed, cared for, and consulted for

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<v Speaker 1>advice or viewed for entertainment. So you had your little

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<v Speaker 1>hermits for like looking at them like they're part of

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<v Speaker 1>the garden, and then the other hermits for advice, sage, advice,

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<v Speaker 1>the concept they were novelties and eccentricities. Quite like I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, the little tiny people that you follow in

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<v Speaker 1>your phone in the garden home not going to speak backs,

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<v Speaker 1>watching us be ornamental. We are the real garden homes

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<v Speaker 1>of the twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 4>There might be something there. Because I was gonna ask,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the modern equivalent we're doing it now? I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>that's just so odd and key. How could we view

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<v Speaker 4>people like that just for ornamental properties and advice.

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<v Speaker 5>And yet we do that every day. Guys, what a

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<v Speaker 5>few in the room with us? Yeah, you get paid

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<v Speaker 5>to look. But also, guys, just while we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Grotto's had become more popular during the eighteenth century, is

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<v Speaker 1>placed to withdraw for meditation, relaxation, and reflection. With an

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<v Speaker 1>increase focus on industrialism and production. Contemplative garden meditation was

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<v Speaker 1>viewed by some as an extravagance which should be now

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<v Speaker 1>with the lack of personal free time in combination with

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<v Speaker 1>an increase of disposal income. Again, it's kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>we feel the popularity of a natural garden landscaping and

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of neoclassical culture established an environment in which

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of garden hermits as novelty guests became popular.

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<v Speaker 2>This is wild.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to know how we got from actual

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<v Speaker 4>people to ceramic or even at this point plaster sculptures.

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<v Speaker 2>But at a different time.

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<v Speaker 3>That is absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, not your eyes glistening, you sick o.

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<v Speaker 1>We are garden nermits. That's a nomen a hermit as

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<v Speaker 1>one word nervets. Good night, you're inflexan forms on cateranermit.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've missed us.

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<v Speaker 4>We've just come back from our break, but the nonsense

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<v Speaker 4>and the cerebral talk continue today. Threw me a big

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<v Speaker 4>question for you. Do you talk to your neighbors?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I have a you to bee from the neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have an update from that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so guys, a little while ago, my neighbor across

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<v Speaker 1>the hall I walk into the house is a ransom scent.

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<v Speaker 3>I think who has passed away in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>They had left their stinky, wet garbage bag on their doorstep.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sensing some housemade animosity like.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get it because it's like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>do it tomorrow. I want to go outside you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in a carpeted venue.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, yeah, take it out, so alas it is quite

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<v Speaker 1>a friendly building this morning. I see you guys, so hello, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>but no further chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you keep it tired, you keep it lying.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred ccent.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a phenomenon happening. People do not speak to

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<v Speaker 4>their neighbors. You can attribute it to we live in

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<v Speaker 4>apartments not houses, people are inherently unsafe, or it's dangerous,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it might be, it's a widespread issue. I was

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<v Speaker 4>reading an article which was an exerpt from the Atlantics,

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<v Speaker 4>not off TikTok. That's incredible, not of TikTok from the

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<v Speaker 4>Atlantics podcast called how to Talk to People, which I

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<v Speaker 4>think for people think they're above listening to we all

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<v Speaker 4>need it because we're all suffering. And this episode in

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<v Speaker 4>particular was how to get to know your neighbors, because

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<v Speaker 4>this person was having a I don't know, an analysis

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<v Speaker 4>of some sort or hypothesis that because we all have

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<v Speaker 4>commitment issues, we don't want to get to know our neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought commitment issues all of us. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean?

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<v Speaker 4>And this person was speculating that because we're afraid of intimacy,

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<v Speaker 4>we're not prepared for We don't want to break the

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<v Speaker 4>floodgates and invite this relationship in because it's our safe space.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to be here every day, and if I

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<v Speaker 4>talk to you today and tomorrow and the next day,

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<v Speaker 4>are we obliged to have a friendship. Are we obliged

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<v Speaker 4>to escalate this relationship to the next level? Do I

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<v Speaker 4>need to invite you in? Do I have to build

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<v Speaker 4>on this relationship? Which is fair because that's my hesitation

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<v Speaker 4>of befriending my neighbors. I've had a few interactions in

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<v Speaker 4>my building that I don't know what to do with.

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<v Speaker 4>For example, I might be coming out of the lift

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<v Speaker 4>and someone might recognize me and say do.

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<v Speaker 2>You live here? You said no, Do I lie?

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<v Speaker 4>Do I invite this seemingly nice but potentially dangerous stranger

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<v Speaker 4>into my daily life? And he tells, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not a fan of dock sing. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 4>But as I was reading this excerpt of this podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>they suddenly got into this place where they were talking

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<v Speaker 4>about how they feel like we're all seeking this thing

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<v Speaker 4>that we fear, and they mentioned this phenomenon called the

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<v Speaker 4>prisoner's dilemma.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, what's the prisoner's dilemma?

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<v Speaker 4>It's this idea where in some ways we interact with

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<v Speaker 4>people and we say, I don't trust them, or I

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<v Speaker 4>think they might not trust me. Let's say you're a

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<v Speaker 4>prisoner in jail looking out to the fellow prisoners. You

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<v Speaker 4>know why you're there, but you don't really know why

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<v Speaker 4>they're there. You just know you're in the same place.

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<v Speaker 4>And so do you give them the benefit of the doubt,

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<v Speaker 4>knowing that they could be a serial killer murderer? Or

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<v Speaker 4>do you let them in and give yourself and them

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<v Speaker 4>the benefit of the doubt that you can behave in

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<v Speaker 4>a way that's safe for both of you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>The only antidocte of feeling like we can't trust people

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<v Speaker 4>or our neighbors is by like giving into it and

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<v Speaker 4>almost like suspending your disbelief and like showing that first

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<v Speaker 4>step of vulnerability, which I feel like every time I

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<v Speaker 4>do it, I'm like, am I going to live to

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<v Speaker 4>regret this?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I really want to become the person.

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<v Speaker 4>Who has given this neighbor this illusion of a friendship

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<v Speaker 4>that's not going to be there. Maybe I have talked

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<v Speaker 4>to my new neighbors once before, and the next time

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<v Speaker 4>was about a week later, and it was like really early,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, do they want.

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<v Speaker 3>To talk to me?

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<v Speaker 4>Until I didn't say anything, but then they said something

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<v Speaker 4>and I felt really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Point is, I don't think there's a good reason for

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<v Speaker 4>us not to know our neighbors. And I think that

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<v Speaker 4>any justification you could make as to why you don't

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<v Speaker 4>need to know them could be easily debunked with logic

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<v Speaker 4>and feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>I must say, I'm afraid because my neighbor has heard

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff that I've said online.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it will change our lives to the better, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Like neighborly relations. Yeah, you will need to keep up

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<v Speaker 1>the jones. It's and also, if you're a Sisters fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that there's some tension between Flanders and Homer

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<v Speaker 1>for certain.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll let you be the judge of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is flex and Rooms on Kaita.

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<v Speaker 4>Rumor has it people are hotter in Melbourne exponentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Not my words from the mouth of a flex and

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<v Speaker 2>frooms listener.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey Flex, Hey free me. I was just recently listening

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<v Speaker 6>to the podcast EPP where Flex goes to a Bunning's

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<v Speaker 6>in Melbourne and it's just taken aback by the sheer

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<v Speaker 6>beauty that is held under the Bunnings roof. And I

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<v Speaker 6>thought this was funny, like a funny mention because a

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<v Speaker 6>friend and I just went to Sydney and from touchdown,

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<v Speaker 6>like when we got off the plane, we were like,

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<v Speaker 6>why is no one in Sydney hot? So I was

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<v Speaker 6>just sort of interested in what you guys think. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, why does Melbourne feel hotter than Sydney? Is

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<v Speaker 6>there something in the water? Like is it just us?

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<v Speaker 6>Or do you guys agree? Like what's your feelings? And

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<v Speaker 6>like why is it that way?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us?

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps the question is are Sydney people inherently fugly and

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<v Speaker 4>Melbourne people inherently In this essay?

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<v Speaker 2>I will will I do want to put here?

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<v Speaker 4>We do have an excerpt that was not played, but

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<v Speaker 4>was written and sent with the voice memo. Confusing though, babes,

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<v Speaker 4>because I do know flexus from Sydney and she's a hottie,

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<v Speaker 4>must have been isolating for her there.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it was In fact, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>There is something in the water, and I'm just not

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<v Speaker 4>sure what it is. It's not that while I was

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<v Speaker 4>in Sydney I had perceived everyone to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>varying degrees of not heart. That's not what was happening.

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<v Speaker 4>But when I touched down and I went to the

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say it. I went to the Bunnings

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<v Speaker 4>in Collingwood, Oh, and I said, everybody here is a ten,

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<v Speaker 4>which is not what I want or expect at a Bunnings.

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<v Speaker 4>And it made shopping very difficult. Of course I felt

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<v Speaker 4>eyes on me, but they were just working and I

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<v Speaker 4>was into it. Listen, yeah, everyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>In a horny place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I run is hotter and I'm not sure why.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, but I'm going to reiterate the horniness that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel when I go to a Bunning's. Talk to us,

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<v Speaker 1>to me why last time I went? Not only did

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<v Speaker 1>I need a shit that's been established as a fact

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<v Speaker 1>that occurs when you're a Bunnings a phenomenon. Why am

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<v Speaker 1>I running into attractive people go?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's because we understand there is an inherent

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<v Speaker 4>sexiness in being helpful, applying yourself, building, alchemizing with two hands,

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<v Speaker 4>we get it, and we don't see it often out

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<v Speaker 4>and about.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you put that in a concentrated space with

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<v Speaker 4>all the tools and the resource and the people that

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<v Speaker 4>you need to get things done. It's a biological thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think all sorts to do with the smell of

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<v Speaker 1>the fertilizer, very earthy. I this weekend, froom's price went

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<v Speaker 1>away on a hike. I have recently been going on

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<v Speaker 1>little hikes. I was definitely a inside girly for my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life, big sim's energy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm surprised by that because you're extremely outside. That's one

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<v Speaker 4>thing I know about you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're outside, You're surfy and your rollablating. What happened, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>life humbled you.

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<v Speaker 1>Life humbled me pretty pretty bloody art, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get out of here. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>started moving my body, I went to the gym. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yet again inside. So I've let that go and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm letting the elements of nature hurt me and

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<v Speaker 1>excite me. Hated camping, but now I'm you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with a friendship group that.

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<v Speaker 3>Likes to go outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, healthway, my friend Michelle says, I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>go on a coastal walk. On Sunday, despite any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hangover, we go down to the Royal National Park,

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<v Speaker 1>New South Wales. I'd been there once or twice. I

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<v Speaker 1>must say everyone, this is a PSA. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>radio wide PSA. If you are in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, if you can find a way, drive down

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<v Speaker 1>to the Royal National Park and go to a place

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<v Speaker 1>called Burning Palms.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a coastal walk. You walk down.

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<v Speaker 1>They've engineery in such a way that they have not.

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<v Speaker 4>The engineered man made in all the right ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've got like a footpath that's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>grippy that they've put down there. Through a path, you look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big mountain, there's a sweeping beach with barely

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<v Speaker 1>anyone on it, and then you walk through it and

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<v Speaker 1>we're walking through this kind of like forest and there's

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<v Speaker 1>all these little tiny shack houses and I'm thinking, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? There's no roads, this is purely a bush walk.

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<v Speaker 1>Why these little houses all of their blinds are closed

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<v Speaker 1>right spooky. It looks like it's a house for gnomes.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's about twenty of them scattered and the literal

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<v Speaker 1>only way to get there is through this actual bushwalk

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<v Speaker 1>that would take you twenty minutes to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels spooky. I don't know if I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was bad jojo.

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<v Speaker 1>However, we're on the walk, we go for a swim.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. Just now, bras like loving life. We go

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<v Speaker 1>sits where the figure eight pools are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and this is what I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm frowning because I've made the mistake of thinking that

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<v Speaker 4>I too want to go on a bushwalk to figure

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<v Speaker 4>eight pools and every time it sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you done it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I hated it, I think three times in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>And the novelty of the drive gets you really pumped

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<v Speaker 4>and excited. Then you get out of the car want

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<v Speaker 4>you and if you find a parking spot, you're doing

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<v Speaker 4>the walk. And because it's destination based, I find that

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't enjoy the journey to go to the pools.

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<v Speaker 2>And once you get to the pools, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta walk back. I don't know. It's not for me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like that it's for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Did you see all the houses when you did it? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I must have gone a different alternate.

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<v Speaker 2>Route because I don't know what Burning Palms is.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say, guys, I had to get home

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<v Speaker 1>and once we got reception, I googled what are these All?

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<v Speaker 1>These houses are scary And it turns out in the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Depression in the nineteen thirties, a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>Australians moved and created shacks there because they couldn't afford

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<v Speaker 1>the city, and the government hasn't broken the houses down

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<v Speaker 1>or anything. So now it's just the descendants that use

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<v Speaker 1>them as holiday houses.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming full circle.

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<v Speaker 3>How incredible I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, you couldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Even do that these days though, if I started building

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<v Speaker 4>private property on public land.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because a national park at the time. Still it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the world's oldest national parks. Yeah, okay, older

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<v Speaker 1>only by Yellowstone, guys. So if you feel like going

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<v Speaker 1>into a slice of history Royal National Park in New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales, if you're coming up from Victoria or any

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<v Speaker 1>other state, check out Burning Palms. Super creepy, super fun.

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