1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Gardening Australia will teach you how to grow that fruit 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: for a nice cocktail. The Gardening Australia Christmas Specials on 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: seven thirty this Friday and ABC and ABC I View 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: and Costa Georgia is joining us now. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, Lisa Clazie. How are you vote? 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: Very well? That friend? Is this the time? Can you 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 3: believe it? If you were chimber. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: Planting a fruit tree for a cocktail? Is this the 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: time of year you would do it? 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Oh? Look, you know ideally you probably would have got 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: it in and get it get it established in the 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: slightly cooler months. 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what sure. 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of one of those things. If 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: you're going to be at home and you're able to 16 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: look after it, well, then I say, you know you 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: can go there. And you know. The thing the thing 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: with thin with gardening that people sort of don't don't 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: always adhere to, is it's it's kind of it's a relationship. 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, you don't have dinner, you don't have 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: dinner one Saturday night, thought, spend time in the garden 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: full tilt over the weekend, you know, putting all your 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: all your your cookies in the one bakeroom and then 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: don't go or do anything for three weeks and then wonder. 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: I get it now It's not it's not you, it's me. 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: So you know that that's kind of that's kind of 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: the thing, regardless when you're talking a tree, whether you're 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: talking your seedlings, you know, and then and then you know, 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: you don't you don't sit your your love interest on 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: the side of a major highway to dinner in the 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: belting some nice nice a nice position that that's that's 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: amenable to grow and connection. 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: It's a lovely metaphor. I'm enjoying. We like profound bring 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: you back in now. 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: There is a Christmas theme to Friday's episode, tell Us 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: about your garden bed gifts. 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look this. I've been talking to a few 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: people about this, and I reckon this is probably one 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: of my favorite stories, not twenty three, but forever. This 40 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: was a lady who her name's really She lives in 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: the Blue Mountains just west of Sydney, and she's been 42 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: basically going blind over the last you know, thirty years, 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: and it's got to the point now where it's really 44 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: she's sort of literally classified as blind. She sees a 45 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: little bit of light. So the local group up there 46 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: called farm at Forward, who grow food and provide food 47 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: boxes for the community. She gets her food through them, 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: and she's part of that community, and so they wanted 49 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: to give her a gift, and so we were going 50 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: to give her a herb and sensory garden. And so 51 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: we built this garden down. We found an area down 52 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: in her backyard and we built it and put all 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: different sensory and herbs in there, because she loves herbs 54 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: and using them for cooking and for making teas and things. 55 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: So we built it. And then you imagine walking someone 56 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: out who's, you know, very heavily visually impaired. And so 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: we approached it and I had to sort of talk 58 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: about it so that she could see what was going 59 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: on in that sense. And I said, all right, now 60 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: that you feel underfoot, we've made it to the mulch. 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: I said, now put your hand down. And she put 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: her hand down and she smelted, and she said, oh, 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: that's lemongrass. I said, all right, when you feel the 64 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: lemon grass, you're at the top side. And then what's 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: on this side and she put her hand out. She said, oh, 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: that's that's you know that's mint. And I said, okay, 67 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: so you're oriented now. And then what she did, and 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: this was the moment, This was that you know, this 69 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: is what giving and connecting is about. She dropped to 70 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: her knees, like straight down onto the ground and started 71 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: crawling and reaching for the plants and smelling them, and 72 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: that the look on her face was just pure joy 73 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: and it made all of us, like the whole production, 74 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, the four of us that were there, like 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: everyone had keys in their eyes because it just made 76 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 2: you realize that gardening is evy for everyone, just because 77 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: you can't see, but also just that thing that we 78 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: take it for granted, but just going if I'd have 79 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: just filmed that and we didn't have Reary there, you 80 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: would have looked at it and gone, oh, yeah, you know, 81 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: I can see that it's about eight square meters and 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: there's ten or twelve plants in there, and I'd see 83 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: a lot of molts and you would have gone to hum, 84 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: Whereas she just gave us that pure joy and said, 85 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, there's more to just seeing. There's smelling, there's tasting, 86 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: and there's a love that gardening brings. It was one 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: of those moments I'll never forget it. 88 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: That's a goosebump moment right there. I love that a cost. 89 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: So we have to ask you the question this time 90 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: of the year, do you personally have a real Chrissy 91 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: tree or have you got the fake you at home 92 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: like most of the rest of us. 93 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'll just tell you an interesting thing. I'm growing 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: a real Christmas tree, which is the Wooly Bush. And 95 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: I went out to Murdock the other day to the 96 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: UNI to speak to the amazing team out there who 97 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: are doing work to help the Carnabi's cockatoo and the 98 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: Wally Bush, the Wooly Bush on campus there. I'm telling you, 99 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: I needed a si a lift to get to the 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: bloody top of it. It was incredible. So I'm growing 101 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: a Wooly bush as my long term Christmas tree. But 102 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: I have our original family Christmas tree, which is like 103 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: this one where you pull the you can fold it 104 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: by pulling all the branches in, but then you fold 105 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: the branches out and it's got like fake little greenery 106 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: on it. But we've had that since I was like 107 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: since I was zero, and I've still got all the 108 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: old family decorations, like dating back to the seventies and 109 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: even earlier to the sixties. And yeah, so I get 110 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: a lot of joy at putting that one up because 111 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: it brings back so many memories. Now I'm also crafting, 112 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: and I give these other trees sometimes Norfolk Island Pine 113 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: is a nice one to have a Christmas tree. You 114 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: can have it outside and then bring it in over Christmas. 115 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm kind of encouraging people to go beyond 116 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: just the traditional tree, to go to a living tree 117 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: and then build memories around a plant, because that's what 118 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: gardening's about, as memories. 119 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: It's amazing how much stuff connected to gardening does invote memories. 120 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: When I think of Christmas, I think of point setters. 121 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: Obviously we have this. You would be familiar, I'm sure 122 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: with the flowering Mudja tree. I remember driving as a 123 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: kid coming down from les Murdy to and we'd drive 124 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: down Welshpool Road and each side you probably don't know 125 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: this road, people are single. 126 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: Each side of the road, it was just a lot. 127 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: The two sides of the road was lined with these beautiful, 128 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: vibrant orange things that just flowered at Christmas time. 129 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: That is incredible because this time last week I was 130 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: driving down from Calamunda. You were staying up there driving 131 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: Downder Murdoch and I along and I was gone, hey, 132 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: what did the parking breaks? Although I can't do a 133 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: parking brake slide these days, little switch just ruined it 134 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: for generation. So my storage live. I just pulled to 135 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: the curve back that up. I said, what is that? 136 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: Is that fake? Like those flowers fake? And I pulled 137 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: up and and I'm sure if the people were inside 138 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: they would have begun, who's this fruit? Loop out of 139 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: photos and talking to himself making videos? But yeah, that 140 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: was literally on Welshpool Road. 141 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: So they're still there. 142 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: God, I might have to go for a little drive 143 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: this weekend and yeah, throw it all back. 144 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can vouch for it. 145 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: Definitely fantastic. 146 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: You've been in Perth just last week, so you know already. 147 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: I mean, by the time we get to October, it's 148 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 4: pretty dry with our sandy sandy soil here and all 149 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: the limestone and all the rest of it. So it's 150 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 4: not Somerset soil is it here in Perth? 151 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: Now? Look, that's it's kind of a it's really interesting 152 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: that that concept because your soil has given you the 153 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: most amazing plants on the planet. And even though people think, 154 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: you know, the tropical rainforest, so this incredibly rich and 155 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: by diverse, and you covered plant community what you've got 156 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: in WA and the more I come over, the more 157 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate. And it's not a biodiversity, it's not an 158 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: acclaimed and registered by diversity hotspot for nothing. And it's 159 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: all growing on these most depleted soils on the planet. 160 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: And that's what makes the plants even more sit back 161 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: with awe because they've struck out a living they've eked 162 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: out a living off and mechanisms within the plants to 163 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: get what they need. So I just feel like the 164 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: more I see your plants, the more I love them, 165 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: and the more I want to share just how incredible 166 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: they are. So no, I just think, you know, And 167 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: I went around and I visited some areas down at 168 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: White Gum Valley where the community down there is doing 169 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: amazing work with street gardens, the verge gardens, and you know, again, 170 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: like I went to a couple of them where they're 171 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: starting to prepare them and it's just pure sand. But 172 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: when you put the right plants in the right place, Oh, 173 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 2: the bio diversity that's growing on some of these street 174 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: guns and they're capturing the water and making little little 175 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: little ponds to rehydrate those landscapes. So once you get 176 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: to know it and you plant for it, that the 177 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: soil is not you know, you're not in rich volcanic soils. 178 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: You're in soils that will grow the right plants. 179 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: So do you care? 180 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: I use it appropriately, don't try to make it do 181 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: something that's not going to do. The Gardening Australia Christmas 182 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: Special is on seven point thirty on Friday on ABC Costa. 183 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: You know what. 184 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: The other thing that we are soil. 185 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: Gives us a really good one of is Christmas cherries 186 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: from down south. 187 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: I hope you got some of those while you are 188 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: in town. 189 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: Cherries. I just from Sydney to Melbourne because we've got 190 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: our final bit of filming down here at our Christy 191 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: pater At party, and I had some cherries for the 192 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: drive and I tell you I was dosing them out 193 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: at about one cherry per five kilometers, so you can 194 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: imagine bloated, bloated, flatulent mess by the time I got ways. 195 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: Costa. Have a fantastic Christmas. We'll talk to you in 196 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: twenty four. 197 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: Can't wait. 198 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: Mary Willie Bush 199 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: This morning,