1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: We would be seeing a man at work, song said, 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: twelve hundred people. The men at work began the road. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: I don't need to the people party in the venues, 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: but the bands. It was a wave of Clearzy and 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Lisa's to Pub. 6 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: Crawl ninety six a FM Claresy and Lisa and Lisa 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: have continued trek through the We're doing. 8 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: The Perth pub Crawl, aren't weah. 9 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: And when you throw in names like the Paddo, the 10 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: Shen's and the Warwick, we speak of the Paddington Dale House, 11 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: the Shenton Park Hotel and the Warrick Hotel. You're talking 12 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: about some great live music venues. And we're going this 13 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: time off stage into the other side of the bar, 14 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 3: or at least into the manager's office and the man 15 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 3: who had a lot of those businesses. Neil Randall joins 16 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: as Neil, welcome mate. 17 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 2: How a thank's Clarzy, great to be. 18 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming into reminiscent with us. Neil is such. 19 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: It was such an active live scene at this in 20 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: this period during the eighties, when you were at the 21 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 4: thick of it owning these clubs, well pubs. 22 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look it was I wish to every deck 23 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: it could be like the eighties. Yeah, well he just 24 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: used to have so much fun. 25 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 26 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: In ICEX rock and roll, the beers flowed and everyone 27 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: just had fun. There's plenty of money around. I mean 28 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: that era that decade. We won the America's Camp, West 29 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Coast Eagles came in and Clearsy won two premiers that 30 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: the rock and roll scene was incredible. 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: I used to pour over that gig. 32 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 4: Guy that had come out on it came out on 33 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: Wednesday afternoon or Thursday morning, I'd pour over it like 34 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 4: a gambler. 35 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: With the tab guide it you would map. 36 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: Out your Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night, and Sunday night. 37 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, there was so much choice. I remember in the 38 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: day there was a raffles going off the windsor the 39 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: the fly was just starting at Scar. Yeah, incredible, and 40 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: we were lucky to have such a great room at 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: the Shens. It only feel it to be four or 42 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: five hundred, but Jesus, we used to stack them in there. 43 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we were part of it. We're in the 44 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: crowd that was usually of it. It was just the right 45 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: size crowd hub gig. 46 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: The acoustics there, sensation absolutely, and just a band that 47 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: it was a great place to work. 48 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: Some of the bands that performed there Gurus of course 49 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: in excess, Paters and Dockers cruel see Paul Kelly Off, 50 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: the Indie, the Stems, the Triffords. 51 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: The jam Tarts. 52 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: We I mean, even back then in the eighties, we 53 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 4: had such a healthy scene of local music. 54 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: It was not an ego touring bands. Yeah, as you said, 55 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: the locals, you know, Dave Warner and the suburbs. 56 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 3: Comes to mind, absolutely fantastic, the suburban boy himself, Yes, exactly. 57 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you just a little added note to this. 58 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: My son Ben we lived at the Shed's, my wife 59 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: and our two boys at the stage we went down 60 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: there one sand diavo, I can hear this tingering and 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: there was Ben on in excess as drums. How far it. 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: You lived at the sheds? You mean literally? 63 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: Okay, to escape work there. 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: For the world. 65 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: But I remember when I was too young to get 66 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: into the Warrick, so mate and I would sit on 67 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: our bikes on the roof of the Warwick shops and 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: watch the fights after getting on a Sunday session getting 69 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: the one the Warwick. It wasn't all fights. There was 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: a lot going on there and some great bands drawing 71 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: huge crowds. 72 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: Thursday nights was it was out of control and there 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: was about seven or eight hundred room. People drown and 74 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: Thursday Nights Danion used to play there. Yeah, yep, we'd 75 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: have seven hundred inside. At twelve o'clock there was fourteen 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: under that in the streets fighting watching casis. You're on 77 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: the road watching. 78 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: You could have come down and give the bounces a hand, 79 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: skinny kids, but we're watching the people spilling out on 80 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: the beach road. 81 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: That great days. 82 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: What are some of the gigs that you really remember 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: some of the memorable ones. 84 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: Oh, Painters were huge and they had a real good act. 85 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: The fires were going and they jump off the stage 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: into the crowd in excess was sort of just breaking out. 87 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: The hoodoos were fantastic, and the locals for audience seventy 88 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: knights mentioned and the farilies like they're own little following, 89 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: and it was just the memories were so incredible. And 90 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: we even had my biggest problem. We had the Rodney Rude. 91 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: It was fantastic and ostentatious was not Austin Satious. His 92 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: crowd was really disappointing, so I gave him the money 93 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: from the door, and he said, no, no, no, no, 94 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: Now you guarantee me two thousand. I said, yeah, but 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: you started forty minutes. The crowd is still coming in. 96 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 2: You're finished. Well. I walked upstairs and Austin he's about 97 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: six weeks. Yeah, they followed me upstairs. He's gonna run 98 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: me down the stairs. So I we sorted it out right. 99 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 100 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, some of those good, good stories, some of those 101 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: great stories I tell from a business point of view, 102 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: who drank more, people who'd come into pubs like the 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: Paddle and watch the footy or sport, or people who 104 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: would come and see bands. 105 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: Bands for sure, Yeah, you know the other Jim Beam 106 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: and Bourbon Ground. Okay, you know, even more so than 107 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: in those days. Jack. Do you know that used to 108 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: fly Now are a far bigger drinking grounds tax while 109 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: they needed pouncers. Yeah that's right. 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Pa, did you have to deal with backstage riders 111 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: for the talk about that? 112 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: It was amazing and I used to every time you 113 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: saw on some of the agents. You saw, now, this 114 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: is what they need. They need two fellows to sit on, 115 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: they need champagne with four blocks of ice. They're not 116 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: nun I settled down boys. This is what you're getting, 117 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Take it or leave it. 118 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: How about that thing where we used to see that 119 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: the looking busters are big gigs out of a nook 120 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: and borrow. But some of the pubs you had, you 121 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: must have seen it where you would get a band 122 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: like a big bree right, so you have all girls 123 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: like four hundred was down the front and all the 124 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: jealous boyfriends up the back. 125 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you must have said that a bit. 126 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm dissured because he did attractor the Vika leads, but 127 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: we didn't really go for that. They sort of did covers, yes, yeah, 128 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: and you know Faddy Lumpkin. There was some great beings, 129 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 2: great local talent around those days. 130 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: A lot of these places, the Shenks, for one, were 131 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: very much in residential areas. 132 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: Did you have to deal with noise complaints? 133 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: That was just as bad as bad as the Riders. 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: It was horrendous. We had to put out a lot 135 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: of bush fires there. And in fact that's why after 136 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: I left, I went over to the Paddington and they 137 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: actually closed a pub down because the neighborhood just closed. 138 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: It was it was a game, but a lot of 139 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: those good old rock and roll pubs just went by 140 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: the bye because you know, a digital music and all 141 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: the local stuff now they have and just made it 142 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: impossible to run. 143 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: My perstors had a really big blues fraternity. We love 144 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: the blues here in the West and Dave Hall and 145 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: Steve Tallis and John Mayer. 146 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: Do you have some well, you had a lot of 147 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: local blues music. Yeah, brick Towns and he had a 148 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: band they did blues John Marray, as you mentioned, that 149 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: was a great scene for that. 150 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a time of course where it was 151 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: hard to get a look in as a Perth. 152 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: Band and and a lot of them just had to 153 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: leave and go to the Eastern States to advance their 154 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: you know, their careers. 155 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Did you did it break your heart sometimes when some 156 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: of them had to. 157 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: That is so true. That is amazing. Our local bands 158 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: are going to Melbourne geeks. So but that's how popular 159 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: it was in those days. 160 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: Times of change. 161 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: Sure. But I'll tell you what one thing we still 162 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 2: do down to the Sandbar used to have live music 163 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: three nights a week. 164 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: Awesome. 165 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: So I've never really lost contact with live music because 166 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: it's just the heart and soul and the heartbeat of 167 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: my blood. Phones anyway. 168 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolute, do you feel a bit like a proud 169 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: papa sending them off to. 170 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: I said, you're always welcome back. Sorry, we're going in 171 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: for six months. But they learned as well. Yes, they 172 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: went and found a new scene, you know, educated themselves 173 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: more and came back better. 174 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: Man. Well, I have to learn the crap because let's 175 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: be honest, Ossie pub fans over the years, the whole 176 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: Lossy pub rock thing, it was a tough ground grounding 177 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: for them and if they were crack they got boot 178 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: off stage or choosels and angel and they got so 179 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: good that's dry. 180 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: They really learned their craft and to have one degree 181 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,479 Speaker 2: where they became, you know worldwide. 182 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: We were laughing before about the irony the senses. 183 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: I may still end up there where I started because 184 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: it's a retirement volution. Now, why do you think there's 185 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: not many live venues around Perth anymore? 186 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: What what happened? What changed it? 187 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: Look, it's just it's hard to put your finger on 188 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: the policy. Even in the two thousands at the Paddington 189 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: we had a big shorts Cheeky Monkeys. Cheeky Monkeys played 190 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: there for six years, I said, and were man turn 191 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: in the crowd until about two thousand and eight. Now, 192 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if the GFC affected things like that, 193 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: just it fell away so quickly. And you know, the 194 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 2: modern music situation. 195 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 4: Now, the way it's done, it's cut out that middle man, 196 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: you know, where you pay your your dues. 197 00:09:53,880 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: I want to survive like Clezzie your age magic someday. 198 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: But you know, like you think about how diverse it got. 199 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: But there's also a lot of choice for people now, 200 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: so that seemed to affect it as well. So many 201 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: choices for people to do with their entertainment time, and 202 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 3: the Internet change the world as well. 203 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: You get people like Boober and Swift and there there 204 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: one people bends. Yeah, that's so much a coming around. Yes, 205 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: it's just yeah, it's quite hearted, complete with. 206 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 3: Really yeah, and so many options online as well for 207 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: people forget into music. Yeah, mate, it's unreal to catch up. 208 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, good now, just with my voice, sorry about this. 209 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: I do blame the eighties talking over beds, yeah, drinking 210 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: cold there and the cigarettes from the folk, the passive 211 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: smoke in the air at the time. 212 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: It certainly sounds pretty right, and I think you're a 213 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,119 Speaker 1: method actor. 214 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: Randomly. 215 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sound good to me. Oh gosh, I missed 216 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: those times. Thank you, Neil. 217 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Pleasure, absolute pleasure. 218 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: I miss it more than you kicking bloody goals for 219 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: super You. 220 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: You don't, Clare's your God. The seventy three grand for 221 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: Thanks mate,