Speaker 1: Flex and froods on Cata.
Speaker 2: Hello, my love, lies. I hope you're strapped in. I
Speaker 2: hope you're in a good mood.
Speaker 3: I hope.
Speaker 2: Literally get the strap on, because we're going to be
Speaker 2: talking about climate change. Don't leave, Do not leave because
Speaker 2: we have opinions.
Speaker 4: I have been told plenty of time that I can
Speaker 4: make historically boring things sound interesting, and I think that
Speaker 4: is true. This was a very interesting layer discussion about
Speaker 4: all the issues. Not with climate change is a concept,
Speaker 4: a concept. We can agree that it's climate change a conspiracy. No,
Speaker 4: just with the conversation around it, hyperindividualized versus community efforts
Speaker 4: about you know, making the world a better place? Are
Speaker 4: we too far gone? Where we always going to zoot
Speaker 4: into oblivion?
Speaker 5: Anyway?
Speaker 4: Does it matter if we get their three thousand years early?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think the operative word in this is that it
Speaker 2: is hypotheticals, and I think it's a broader discussion about
Speaker 2: individuality versus community and whether or not you need individuality
Speaker 2: for community to work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, individual effort, yes, no, pray tell it's going to
Speaker 4: be a juicy one. And look, it's a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4: We can't get to the bottom of the what's the
Speaker 4: Is it the bottom of an iceberg?
Speaker 5: There's a tit? What's the other side, the bottom of
Speaker 5: the ocean?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 4: Look, we just can't delve into every possible concept and
Speaker 4: theory and idea And most importantly for.
Speaker 2: Me, I don't like answers. I just like ideas. I
Speaker 2: want an answer. I want to not die in three years.
Speaker 2: That's my reason for living.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you really wanted to not die in
Speaker 4: three years, you'd be joining my.
Speaker 5: I can't get into this. I can't get into it episode,
Speaker 5: I promise.
Speaker 1: Okayay, this is flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: I want to tell you a little tiny story, so
Speaker 2: if you can just close your eyes and open your ears,
Speaker 2: this is the story about a man and a woman.
Speaker 5: Which look, all my stories are about that. I see
Speaker 5: you rolling your eyes again during Pride month.
Speaker 2: It has to start, okay, So the title of this
Speaker 2: one is made a really bizarre rule at the start
Speaker 2: of a relationship and now regretting it.
Speaker 3: Let's get it. You know what, you Pretend you're like chill.
Speaker 2: We have all ever do that that goes into your
Speaker 2: dating exactly.
Speaker 3: Start with high maintenance.
Speaker 4: Pretend you're just this tyrannical freak and then like when
Speaker 4: they find out you're just like an averagely high maintenance person.
Speaker 5: It's chill, pull it back, it's easy.
Speaker 3: So here we go.
Speaker 5: My name's Amy. I'm a female twenty three.
Speaker 3: Okay, too many details.
Speaker 2: Gey three year old Amy, let's go two year old Amy.
Speaker 2: She has been dating her boyfriend for three point five years.
Speaker 5: Her words.
Speaker 2: At the start of the relationship, we both liked each other,
Speaker 2: weren't head over heels for one another, due to which
Speaker 2: we made our relationship somewhat open. The relationship at the
Speaker 2: time wasn't serious, and honestly, we both thought it wouldn't last,
Speaker 2: but would give it a shot. One rule we decided
Speaker 2: on was that if we slept with somebody else, that
Speaker 2: the other partner would get a free pass to sleep
Speaker 2: around that amount of time. We made this rule so
Speaker 2: that we could try our best to see if this
Speaker 2: relationship works or not. In a few months, I developed
Speaker 2: major feelings for him, as one does, and the same.
Speaker 5: Goes for him.
Speaker 2: We never officially killed the rule. Today, at dinner time,
Speaker 2: I jokingly told my boyfriend how dumb we were at
Speaker 2: the start of the relationship to make such a stupid rule.
Speaker 5: I saw him going from normal to extremely frazzled. Within seconds.
Speaker 2: He told me that he thought we were still in
Speaker 2: an open relationship and that I had sixteen free pass
Speaker 2: According to him, he did nothing wrong since we didn't
Speaker 2: just otherwise.
Speaker 3: Have been racking them up to you for us.
Speaker 2: Literally, I think he cheated since we were in a
Speaker 2: committed relationship a few months in. I feel sick to
Speaker 2: my stomach right now thinking of what he has done.
Speaker 2: He's saying that he loves me and wants his relationship
Speaker 2: to work, and that I can use my passes and
Speaker 2: then we can close the relationship back up. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to sleep with Randow's, but I also
Speaker 2: want this relationship. But I'm also disgusted by my boot friend.
Speaker 2: What should I do? Doesn't count as cheating? I love Amy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gross out. What a feral beast, but also I
Speaker 2: love him.
Speaker 3: That's my man. I'm a stick beside him.
Speaker 5: She wants to know is this cheating?
Speaker 2: And am I okay to be disgusted because she's in
Speaker 2: a position.
Speaker 5: We've all been there.
Speaker 3: She doesn't believe me. No, no, no, no. If you've been there,
Speaker 3: say so.
Speaker 5: I haven't actually been there either. I'm just trying to relate.
Speaker 3: Okay, got it.
Speaker 2: Some people have been there where they find out that
Speaker 2: a partner's cheating. They are disgusted in them, absolutely foul,
Speaker 2: but they still love them, and it puts you really
Speaker 2: between a rock and a hard place.
Speaker 5: So do you think was he cheating?
Speaker 3: No, it's miscommunication.
Speaker 5: This is a pretty diabolical miscommunication.
Speaker 4: What were you talking about for three and a half years,
Speaker 4: we just didn't bring it back up, like things just
Speaker 4: don't peter out. I mean, you entered the relationship with
Speaker 4: a very specific dynamic, right.
Speaker 5: I feel like that would have been a couple of chats.
Speaker 4: Being like, let's just be open ish, and then you
Speaker 4: were just you continued being open with an extra layer
Speaker 4: of intimacy that maybe made Amy think that they were monogamous,
Speaker 4: which makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: Is it cheating?
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 4: But it all goes back to if she feels it's cheating,
Speaker 4: it's cheating. But I'm sure he could justify his way
Speaker 4: out of it to be like no, no, no no, because
Speaker 4: you said we were open. So if you if we're changed,
Speaker 4: didn't you tell me? I feel like, right now she
Speaker 4: just gotta have a conversation about like, so can we
Speaker 4: be close? Like do you want to just be with
Speaker 4: just me? But also I think for me personally, I'm
Speaker 4: trying to imagine what I would do. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I could come back from that. It's not just
Speaker 4: the cheating, it's being on completely different pages. She's like
Speaker 4: here being like me and my number one monogamous man
Speaker 4: and laying is just us together, And he's like, that's
Speaker 4: my amy.
Speaker 3: We date.
Speaker 5: But I'm dating Jesse and Becky and Shela and I
Speaker 5: love them.
Speaker 4: That's hectic. I would just have too many questions and answers.
Speaker 4: I don't want the answers.
Speaker 2: To I just say, dump him because if there was
Speaker 2: nothing like the whole reason why open relationships exist is
Speaker 2: for that reason. They are open, open channels of communication,
Speaker 2: open channels of routing.
Speaker 5: But they're twenty What do you mean they were twenty when.
Speaker 2: They had this chat, twenty three, they're twenty three now
Speaker 2: dating for three and a half years. I don't think
Speaker 2: you should be able to use your age as an excuse.
Speaker 5: I think she got a dump in.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on Kita.
Speaker 4: I do not trust people who get on the internet,
Speaker 4: especially TikTok and have all these pipe dreams about how
Speaker 4: to make money. Like people's one purpose is like, hey,
Speaker 4: did you guys know that if you do this you
Speaker 4: can make money? What is your end game? I don't
Speaker 4: trust it anyway? So do you know did you ever
Speaker 4: watch teen Mums when you're in high school?
Speaker 2: Yes? Farah Adams Abrams Abrams but close.
Speaker 4: So she was the ogten mum and that would have
Speaker 4: been almost fifteen years ago, if not maybe about ten.
Speaker 4: And she's been doing a lot of work to keep
Speaker 4: herself relevant. She is pretty much always in the tabloid's
Speaker 4: the press for doing something inane. But this she might
Speaker 4: have taken a bit too fast. So she uploaded a
Speaker 4: story or a TikTok or something video esque to social
Speaker 4: media where she's sitting, she's standing in the bathroom and
Speaker 4: she is alluding to essentially jarring up a vial of
Speaker 4: her thesis to sell online. And so people were like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this is a bit fun, and she was just like,
Speaker 4: you know what, in social media, you have to do
Speaker 4: what you need to do to like stay irrelevant, and
Speaker 4: you know, starting conversations is really important, and blah blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, Like you don't know what market I have
Speaker 4: for this, don't judge me. And it was like a
Speaker 4: one minute video clip of her being like, so she's
Speaker 4: kind of like turning her bum towards the camera, wearing
Speaker 4: pants obviously, and just kind of gesturing to putting a
Speaker 4: vial behind her and like sitting on it and being
Speaker 4: like afterwards, I'm gonna, you know, put the lid on,
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna sell it and.
Speaker 3: Whatever turns out.
Speaker 2: Though it was all elaborate ruse because her and her
Speaker 2: daughter have come out.
Speaker 3: With pooh slime.
Speaker 4: Oh genius, that's great. I think that's genius. So it's
Speaker 4: I can show you here. It looks like it's kind
Speaker 4: of like in a maple syrup type of bottle that's
Speaker 4: like bubbly like the poop emoji, and it says poop
Speaker 4: by Sarah Abram poopy slime. I don't know what it's
Speaker 4: meant to smell like. I don't know what it's meant
Speaker 4: to be like. I don't know how well it squirts.
Speaker 4: I just know that it's a brown colored slime. I
Speaker 4: don't know if she'll make any money from it. People
Speaker 4: love slime. They're a slime millionaires, So I have no
Speaker 4: doubt that there's some kind of market for it, and
Speaker 4: she's probably peddling it to her daughter's fan base as well.
Speaker 5: Genius has a daughter.
Speaker 3: Howld's her daughter?
Speaker 4: She looks like a ten, she looks like a child.
Speaker 5: But it's getting a bit of a cut. Come on, now,
Speaker 5: well that's slime slime chat.
Speaker 4: But again, there seems to be a very distinct theme
Speaker 4: with all the ways I'm finding that you can become
Speaker 4: a millionaire in twenty twenty two. And I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's like the bar to mine half effect where
Speaker 4: because I've opened the floodgates with making money through selling
Speaker 4: your bodily fluids. Now they just find me because we've
Speaker 4: done tears, tears.
Speaker 5: Far bath water. Pooh, what's next?
Speaker 3: What is next?
Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about it on air. Ooh,
Speaker 5: it's something else.
Speaker 4: So the market is fair and wide, and I just
Speaker 4: think that if you're trying to sell T.
Speaker 3: Shirts in twenty twenty two, you need to start good.
Speaker 5: Luck to try harder.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Cada.
Speaker 4: Okay, so me flex part time conspiracy theorists, but not
Speaker 4: in the tinfoil hat way. In the I just like
Speaker 4: talking about concepts I don't really care to believe them
Speaker 4: the whole way, Like I'm not joining any conspiracy theorist
Speaker 4: groups or doing rallies or like trying to make things
Speaker 4: make sense. But one that I don't talk about enough
Speaker 4: is predictive programming. You across it not okay. So it's
Speaker 4: a theory that claims that the government or like the
Speaker 4: elites are using fictional movies or fictional books as a
Speaker 4: mass mind control tool to kind of plant ideas about
Speaker 4: the future, so when it happens, they're really used to it.
Speaker 4: So you might have noticed around twenty twelve there was
Speaker 4: that conspiracy theory that the mind calendars of the world
Speaker 4: was going to end, and there were all these apocalypse movies.
Speaker 4: There was contagion that prepared everyone for this idea of
Speaker 4: a mass pandemic.
Speaker 5: But still we didn't learn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were like, what was that one thing
Speaker 4: they said?
Speaker 3: The masks.
Speaker 4: Anyway, you'll also notice that when movies do get released,
Speaker 4: or when popular when books become popular, there are certain
Speaker 4: themes just keep cropping up. Like you know, we had
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago bird by a quiet place,
Speaker 4: these monsters that hunted with sound.
Speaker 3: What is that about?
Speaker 4: You just all have these ideas at the same time.
Speaker 4: Come on, now, come on now. Did you watch on
Speaker 4: Netflix this movie called Don't Look Up And it was
Speaker 4: all over the homepage had Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer you'r Save
Speaker 4: Jennifer Lawrence, Timothy Shallow May. Don't Look Up is about
Speaker 4: these two like average Joe, low level astronomers who realize
Speaker 4: that there's this huge comet that's going to approach the
Speaker 4: like it's approaching Earth and it's going to destroy things,
Speaker 4: like cataclysmic event, the world is going to end, apocalyptic vibes,
Speaker 4: and so they start freaking out, like we got to
Speaker 4: go tell someone.
Speaker 3: And so the whole movie is about them first.
Speaker 4: Going to the president to be like, hey, there's a
Speaker 4: media coming, and they're like, okay.
Speaker 5: Shush, that's like very bad vibes. Don't say that kind
Speaker 5: of like not really good. It's not really a good
Speaker 5: time for that.
Speaker 4: And so they go on this like media tour trying
Speaker 4: to get people to listen to them, and what ends
Speaker 4: up happening is that every time they're on a talk
Speaker 4: show or speaking about what's going on, people think they
Speaker 4: are just this lunatic, like hysterical bunch of people who
Speaker 4: are trying to fear monger and nobody listens and plot twists,
Speaker 4: the media hits and everybody dies.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you actually miss that part of the film,
Speaker 2: so people, everybody dies in the end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so everybody watches that, we're like, well, that's really sad.
Speaker 4: Let's turn that off.
Speaker 5: Let's not do that.
Speaker 4: But I don't know if you've noticed, but for the
Speaker 4: past I don't know, six months or so, so many
Speaker 4: climate change activists have been.
Speaker 5: Doing really hectic things to.
Speaker 4: Try and get our attention about like the current state
Speaker 4: of the world.
Speaker 5: You had the people.
Speaker 4: Who recently in April parked their truck on the Harbor
Speaker 4: Bridge to block traffic, because once you block traffic, it's
Speaker 4: all over the news to talk about like the climate emergency.
Speaker 1: I missed that, you see.
Speaker 4: Then recently the French Open there was this woman who
Speaker 4: tied herself to the nets, like the poles of the nets,
Speaker 4: wearing a shirt that said, we have onenty twenty eight
Speaker 4: days left and we need to do something drastically.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I don't want to fear manger, Okay, I'm also just
Speaker 4: here for laughs and gags. However, I do think it's
Speaker 4: my civic duty amplify this message that they'll.
Speaker 5: Wear out is.
Speaker 4: No, but it's actually quite spooky. The exact format of
Speaker 4: the movie is what's happening right now and has been
Speaker 4: happening since, and people are not paying attention.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: I watched that movie and it wasn't fear mongering at all,
Speaker 2: because that's literally what's happening.
Speaker 5: But I think that's the point.
Speaker 4: I think it comes across as fear mongering because people
Speaker 4: will then say, well, for years like Nostra Dharma said
Speaker 4: the world was going to end and it didn't, and
Speaker 4: so and so said the world was going to end
Speaker 4: and it didn't, and well had no climate change is real?
Speaker 4: Like this is just what happened. We've never been alive
Speaker 4: in this time before. Maybe this is always what it
Speaker 4: was going to be like in twenty twenty two, and
Speaker 4: we're just freaking each other out for some mass agenda
Speaker 4: that nobody knows about or is sure about. What the
Speaker 4: elites and like the.
Speaker 5: What would they get out of that?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure and I don't doubt you know, there
Speaker 4: are tons of cooked things that are happening, and I
Speaker 4: don't think that we operate in the right circles to
Speaker 4: understand the benefit of any of these things that happen.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure these conversations are meant to have like
Speaker 4: a very clear cause and effect.
Speaker 2: I literally think that Australians now, especially considering how many
Speaker 2: people voted for the Greens, are taking it seriously and
Speaker 2: I think it's really important to understand. There has been
Speaker 2: conversations about climate change since the year two thousand in
Speaker 2: terms of in pop culture.
Speaker 4: Yeah, weren't we in primary school They're like, we're in
Speaker 4: a drought before that water this time of the year.
Speaker 2: We had Finding Nemo, which was all about the pollution
Speaker 2: in the ocean, Like that's the year two thousand, So
Speaker 2: you and I've grown up that we've grown up with
Speaker 2: plastic in the ocean, like picking up plastic off the beach.
Speaker 2: The drought, then the rains, the fires sounds like the
Speaker 2: Book of Revelation, it does.
Speaker 4: I think that we have always been too far gone
Speaker 4: for the amount of self sacrifice everybody would need to
Speaker 4: do for things to change. I have no doubt the
Speaker 4: big dogs and the six richest corporations in the world
Speaker 4: were like, Okay, we totally get it, but if we
Speaker 4: make these adjustments that we don't have money, do you
Speaker 4: see the issue? And so they're probably like, okay, well
Speaker 4: let's say we take the brunt, right, because I'm sure
Speaker 4: the six largest corporations are like personalizing it. Well, fine,
Speaker 4: we'll take the brunt. But then if we have to
Speaker 4: take the brunt, what about everybody else? Who else is
Speaker 4: pulling the weight? If we only have a finite amount
Speaker 4: of time left, I want to enjoy, you really think?
Speaker 5: That's what I think.
Speaker 4: So the way that people justify the habits that they
Speaker 4: have that contribute to the climate emergency, they like compare
Speaker 4: and contrast, Well, I don't shop fast fashion, so like
Speaker 4: it's fine that I drive my car five minutes down
Speaker 4: the road, and it's fine that I use Uber eight
Speaker 4: to every meal, and it's fine that I still use
Speaker 4: straws because I don't do this one thing. And that's
Speaker 4: just on an individual level. You have almost eight billion
Speaker 4: individuals making these micro justifications for behavior. I'm sure the
Speaker 4: individuals that run corporations can do the same thing and say, well, hey,
Speaker 4: like wherever, he're doing this one thing, but them over there, they're.
Speaker 3: Fucking up the oceans.
Speaker 5: All right, We're just fucking up the sky.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying or like we're just sucking
Speaker 4: up one continent, they're fucking up seven. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: So you make these adjustments, and then I think the
Speaker 4: fundamental issue is as much as everybody accepts responsibility, I
Speaker 4: don't think anybody wants to take accountability for it. So
Speaker 4: they're all like, it is my fault, but like me
Speaker 4: personally anything about it. And I remember reading this one
Speaker 4: theory or justification that was like this US human race
Speaker 4: has to end at some point, just like we had
Speaker 4: the I say, it's just like we had all those
Speaker 4: other ages where shit existed.
Speaker 3: And now it doesn't.
Speaker 5: Our time is bound to come right.
Speaker 4: So people kind of have this thought of like maybe
Speaker 4: we're just rushing ourselves there a little bit. Maybe we're
Speaker 4: just like not taking a chill road. We're like foot
Speaker 4: on the gas cranking it into oblivion. But it's going
Speaker 4: to happen anyway, So what.
Speaker 3: Is there to do?
Speaker 2: Overpopulation is obviously the thing that's driving it. I think
Speaker 2: we can all agree on that. Because the more people do.
Speaker 5: More things like.
Speaker 2: What's it called goodness of living, standard quality of life
Speaker 2: growing more, that means more food, more this moor that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe maybe I hadn't thought about it that way,
Speaker 2: that we're going to be cranking into oblivion regardless. Yes, however,
Speaker 2: I would be cautious sharing that because I think that's
Speaker 2: the kind of rhetoric that people who've denied climate change use.
Speaker 2: Flex and frooms people are always saying, like, don't pop
Speaker 2: pimples because they'll scar.
Speaker 3: We get that.
Speaker 5: What's wrong with scars?
Speaker 3: Right? That batt'll loan It shows you've been through something.
Speaker 4: But apparently there is a section on your face that
Speaker 4: if you pop pimples and they get infected, it can
Speaker 4: become lethal.
Speaker 5: As in, you could.
Speaker 6: Listen to this, okay, So she's referring to this part
Speaker 6: of your face called the triangle of death or the
Speaker 6: death triangle, and we give it that name because if
Speaker 6: you have a skin infection here, it can spread pretty
Speaker 6: quickly to your brain and cause some really bad symptoms,
Speaker 6: like a stroke. That's because in this area of the
Speaker 6: face there's question of blood vessels that can spread infection
Speaker 6: pretty quickly to the brain. Thankfully, getting a really bad
Speaker 6: infection is pretty rare, but you may want to think
Speaker 6: twice before you pop a pimple in this area.
Speaker 5: Do you know what I hate? Femon green. Yes, it's
Speaker 5: every day.
Speaker 3: I don't do this because of this, don't do this
Speaker 3: because of this. It's really unsafe.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Okay, so why do pimples show up in those areas?
Speaker 3: They have a death fish exactly? You know what?
Speaker 5: I think? How bad would you feel?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: It's like I want to bring it back up, almost
Speaker 2: drowning in BALI you did.
Speaker 5: You don't think you're gonna be the one.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be.
Speaker 4: Me though, I'm not swimming in any kind of.
Speaker 3: Rogue open water.
Speaker 5: Number one.
Speaker 4: If it wasn't the rip, it would have been some
Speaker 4: miscellaneous creature. I don't even know if this is real
Speaker 4: or if it's just in a movie maybe had about
Speaker 4: the megalodon. I don't it's like a megasquid. No, it's
Speaker 4: like that huge shark or something. Honestly, I can't tell
Speaker 4: you if this is real or like I thought dragons
Speaker 4: were real the other day, Like I'm.
Speaker 5: Not the one.
Speaker 4: But something happened where they the scientists went too far
Speaker 4: down beneath the ocean floor. They thought they reached the bottom,
Speaker 4: but it was just like this gaseous lege. So they
Speaker 4: penetrated it and then let out all these like spooky creatures.
Speaker 5: What literally, we.
Speaker 3: Don't have to google that it was in a movie.
Speaker 4: But I feel like all movies are like based on
Speaker 4: true life.
Speaker 5: Like when did this happen?
Speaker 3: Jason stave them? He did it? If he saved us.
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