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Speaker 1: Three sixties, the week that was the most listened to

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Speaker 1: hour in Territory radio.

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Speaker 2: The Territory Leaders break down this week's big issues.

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Speaker 3: The top ends weather. First, it is mostly sunny out there.

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Speaker 3: We are heading for thirty four in the city, thirty

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Speaker 3: In fact, as I say that, mostly sunny out there,

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Speaker 4: And today's top.

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Speaker 3: tide of three point four meters at eleven o'clock this

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Speaker 3: morning in Darwin.

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Speaker 4: Right now, just taking.

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Speaker 3: A closer look at the temperature, and we are currently

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Speaker 3: sitting on twenty four degrees, twenty six in the rural

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Speaker 4: And of course it is Friday morning.

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Speaker 3: It is time for the week that was at a

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Speaker 3: socially distanced well in a socially distant studio, I am

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Speaker 3: joined this morning by the Deputy Opposition Leader, Jered Mayley.

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Speaker 4: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 3: We've got Kate Warden, the Minister for Territory, Families and

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Speaker 3: Urban Housing and various other things. Good morning to you, Kate.

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Speaker 5: Good morning Katy.

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Speaker 3: And we have got Kesier Puick, the Member for Goida,

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Speaker 3: the Independent Member for Goida.

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Speaker 4: Good morning to.

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Speaker 1: You, morning Katie, Morning rural people and Kezyer.

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Speaker 4: Just on that weather, I do want to ask. I

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Speaker 3: Property and some others were obviously threatened by bushfire.

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Speaker 4: It is a pretty bad afternoon.

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Speaker 6: It was a shocking afternoon and I thank all the

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Speaker 6: fires volunteer as well as Anti Fire Service. They told

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Speaker 6: and fifty acres of our collective properties and all the

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Speaker 6: past and all the paddocks. But thankfully no structures did

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Speaker 6: within twenty feet of one person who looks on the property.

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Speaker 6: And thankfully it was blowing. The wind was blowing towards

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Speaker 6: the north. If we'd been blown the other way, we've

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Speaker 6: all been in trouble. But it just goes to show

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Speaker 6: there's fuel loads, and it just brings home to me,

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Speaker 6: you know the importance of neighbors. Like few neighbors came

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Speaker 6: up to see if everything was okay, blokes, because you

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Speaker 6: know they can they can do things.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I had a few thank you. No

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Speaker 1: girls can. But if there's a big bush for off,

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Speaker 6: We're using wet brooms and leaf blowers to blow flames

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Speaker 1: But the fire is they were just everywhere and they

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Speaker 6: One of the first things you do on a big

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Speaker 6: place like collective families got is you just open every gate.

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Speaker 6: You worry about the stock ladder, You just get all

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Speaker 6: It didn't look like they we could see what they

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Speaker 1: That's how serious it was. There was three fixed.

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Speaker 6: Wings dropping water and two helicopters were the spotters. And

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Speaker 1: But it's they said it was up there. It's not

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Speaker 1: one of the worse fires we've had in the top end.

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Speaker 5: And the.

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Speaker 6: Wet last year, so of course the fuel load was

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Speaker 3: And yeah, big thanks to our fires everybody and those

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Speaker 4: Sounds like they did a.

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Speaker 6: Phenomenal maxine way from Howd Springs and Steve Russell and

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Speaker 6: He's a fireing with Anty fire Service and he came

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Speaker 3: And doesn't show you, yeah, that sense of community when

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Speaker 4: I think you'd have to say.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the COVID lockdown, we do know that Catherine residents

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Speaker 3: Greater Darwin and Palmerston were released from lockdown.

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Speaker 4: At noon yesterday.

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Speaker 3: While we know that Catherine is still awaiting some test results.

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Speaker 4: I think Kate, is that right.

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Speaker 7: I think they're waiting a meeting this morning of SEMPSEI,

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Speaker 7: and I think that's happening right now, so post that

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Speaker 5: So mostly phenomenal amount of test results.

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Speaker 7: We're talking about over two thousand to come through, so

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, to say that they just take

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Speaker 5: There's people working flat out to get those.

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Speaker 6: I have a friend up here, a couple who are travelers,

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, she had no.

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Speaker 1: Diligently every three or four hours.

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Speaker 6: They rang them on their mobiles just to because they

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Speaker 1: But I thought it was phenomenal. I didn't know how

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Speaker 7: I was walking out with my dogs during the lockdown

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Speaker 5: There's lots of the job that police have been doing.

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Speaker 7: And the people across all of our agencies are welfare

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Speaker 5: That the job that they've done, they just stand up.

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Speaker 7: And we just talked a moment ago, Katie about territory

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Speaker 5: So the work that people like the Larakir have done, the.

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Speaker 7: have the option for testing if they're within that contact,

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Speaker 7: getting the message out there. The body of work, I

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Speaker 4: We're continuing to get asked.

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Speaker 3: Is if a people are asking at the moment, if

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Speaker 3: to wait for those test results to come back from interstate,

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Speaker 4: Do we not?

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Speaker 7: My understanding is that they're done here done here, they've

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Speaker 7: So I had to have a test and I had

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Speaker 2: I just want to give a big shout out to

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Speaker 3: Than Look, there is always so much to cover off,

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Speaker 3: I think when we go through something like a lockdown,

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Speaker 4: No doubt about food. Yeah, we all understand that.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're trying to do it for the greater

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Speaker 7: This is a balancing act and I think everybody acknowledges that.

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Speaker 7: I think that is what quick fast lockdowns do. It

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Speaker 7: You know, I've got a family member that literally has

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Speaker 7: position we've taken about what's essential, what's not essential and lockdowns.

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Speaker 7: It's interesting how just yesterday I was able to do

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Speaker 7: a launch online of disability. Disability Yeah, and it's the

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Speaker 7: We can sit here and we can say no more lockdowns.

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Speaker 2: Not saying that. I'm just saying that we need to

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Speaker 7: Can I point out that the territory has this rule

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Speaker 7: Heart Katie, Can I say really clearly to your listeners

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Speaker 4: Are going to have to take a short break.

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Speaker 3: works in the frontline services for Border Force and they're

444
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Speaker 3: questioning why their children aren't actually eligible for that vaccine. Kesier,

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Speaker 3: I think you also had something come through.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got a constituent down Beastcriept. Virginia Way who's

447
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Speaker 6: got five children and he over twelve and he wanted

448
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Speaker 6: to have them vaccinated. So he rang the clinic and

449
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Speaker 6: was told that no, he can't because or can't because

450
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Speaker 6: they were not a original descent. But having said that,

451
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Speaker 6: Cakes just clarified it's not that their original kids or families.

452
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Speaker 6: It's more than they're an invulnerable situation.

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Speaker 5: So clarified because I've got the words here and.

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Speaker 6: I thought that's okay. But this gentleman, I'm not sure

455
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Speaker 6: where he works, but I think if the parent or

456
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Speaker 6: parents are essential workers, I think they should be allowed

457
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Speaker 6: to have their children vaccinated, if the family wants the

458
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Speaker 6: children to be vaccinated, because, as you said, people who

459
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Speaker 6: are hesitant about it.

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Speaker 7: Can I say that overarching approach has been that this

461
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Speaker 7: it's a flexible system and we respond where we can,

462
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Speaker 7: so you know, and it's changing all the time.

463
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Speaker 5: I remember a time you had.

464
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Speaker 7: To be over sixty to get the first wave, or

465
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Speaker 7: you're a frontline worker, so you can see that this

466
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Speaker 7: is an evolving a program. And at the moment, what

467
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Speaker 7: we've changed to is that if your children of aged

468
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Speaker 7: between twelve and fifteen, they're eligible if they have a

469
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Speaker 7: medical condition that increases the risk of severe COVID nineteen,

470
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Speaker 7: so you were talking about it, severe asthma, diabetes, if

471
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Speaker 7: they're aboriginal or Tory Strait islander, and that comes to

472
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Speaker 7: your point before the information they were given. So at

473
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Speaker 7: the moment, that's the new that's the next roll out

474
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Speaker 7: if we want to say that, And I can imagine

475
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Speaker 7: that as we go forward and as we have available vaccines,

476
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Speaker 7: because I can tell you last night, I've got a

477
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Speaker 7: house of six or five teenagers.

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Speaker 5: And we had the conversation last night.

479
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Speaker 7: They're all over sixteen and we booked Some of them

480
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Speaker 7: are booked in, but some were not.

481
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Speaker 5: I went through and tried to book them in.

482
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Speaker 7: It's hard because there's very few appointments left because territories

483
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Speaker 7: are snapping up appointments. And we've even talked about okay,

484
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Speaker 7: well maybe we'll go to the doctors or.

485
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Speaker 5: Even you know, like places like chemists to consider they

486
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Speaker 5: can just do it.

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Speaker 7: That's so if they're the considerations that we look.

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Speaker 3: If there are frontline if there are children of frontline workers,

489
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Speaker 3: or if there are people who are wondering whether they

490
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Speaker 3: are indeed going to be able to get their kids vaccinated,

491
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Speaker 3: is the best thing I'm suggesting at this point in

492
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Speaker 3: time is to bring that COVID hotline and try to

493
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Speaker 3: try to source it or try to sort it out

494
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Speaker 3: on there. Look, we are going to ford your head

495
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Speaker 3: because there's so much to or off on this morning. Now,

496
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Speaker 3: it seems as a bit of a political a staush

497
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Speaker 3: has erupted on social media overnight. The Northern Territory Police

498
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Speaker 3: Association has jumped on Facebook and said this is barely believable,

499
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Speaker 3: what a complete insult to those a political hard working

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Speaker 3: government and non government employees out there actually keeping us safe.

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Speaker 3: Now it's relating to the Chief Minister, Michael Gunner posting

502
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Speaker 3: on his Facebook page that there will be a by

503
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Speaker 3: election for the people of Daily on Saturday, eleventh of September,

504
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Speaker 3: following the resignation of CLP member Ian Sloane. Michael Gunner

505
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Speaker 3: says this by election will offer the people of Daily

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Speaker 3: a choice a territory labor government who will protect the

507
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Speaker 3: people of Daily from the COVID pandemic, or a CLP

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Speaker 3: who would open up the borders and give our vaccines

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Speaker 3: to see them.

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Speaker 7: He's like a broken records own Facebook page.

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Speaker 4: That is still.

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Speaker 2: Point of exactly.

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Speaker 3: Well this week, this week I will step in here

514
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Speaker 3: because this week the Chief Minister use that same Facebook

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Speaker 3: page to communicate zero cases of COVID.

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Speaker 4: Now we've got to clarify.

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Speaker 3: Here is the Chief Minister's page an emergency page where

518
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Speaker 3: communication around a pandemic goes out or is it a

519
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Speaker 3: page where he has political spin because those lines were

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Speaker 3: crossed throughout the week and discussing page.

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Speaker 5: Jared has a Facebook page.

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Speaker 7: We all have a Facebook Facebook pages. And I tell

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Speaker 7: you what, I have a right mix of everything I

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Speaker 7: talk about my family.

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Speaker 4: You didn't get out.

526
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Speaker 3: Throughout the week and put out pandemic information that.

527
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Speaker 4: People are waiting for information, then come out throw not

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Speaker 4: before it goes out on those official channels. That's the

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Speaker 4: big difference.

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Speaker 2: Really, Michael going to can't use his Facebook page to

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Speaker 2: point score on this COVID thing. We all know that

532
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Speaker 2: COVID is here, and he needs to make sure that

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Speaker 2: he uses the channels because there's lots of people who

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Speaker 2: don't follow his Facebook pages. There's lots and lots of

535
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Speaker 2: people who he's blocked from following his Facebook page, and

536
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Speaker 2: yet this information comes out. And I think he even

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Speaker 2: come out and said he used that because the government

538
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Speaker 2: is too slow. Do you want to insult to those

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Speaker 2: government works people out there trying to put the information out?

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Speaker 1: And Michael Gage, we're.

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Speaker 2: Going to go out and puts on his own Facebook

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Speaker 2: page for spin and political points.

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Speaker 5: Totally disagree with you.

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Speaker 7: I have blocked people off my page because if someone

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Speaker 7: wants to call me the C word online, that's very.

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Speaker 2: That's very different. But we're talking about very important all territories,

547
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Speaker 2: about zero cases. This is a very very important issue.

548
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Speaker 2: And he's his own Facebook page for spin he should

549
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Speaker 2: he should.

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Speaker 5: Think about half an hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about people listening. I'm talking about people who

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Speaker 2: want to know about what's going on in the terror.

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Speaker 7: I think the Chief miss has been really really clear

554
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Speaker 7: in this. He made the presumption very clear point scoring

555
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Speaker 7: it's out before him. He then put that post up.

556
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Speaker 7: I put that post up, I share those toasts.

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Speaker 4: Health put that information out before him.

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Speaker 7: No, no, he had presumed that it had gone out immediately.

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Speaker 4: He well that was not the case.

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Speaker 7: Well it didn't happen, Katie, and we know that now.

561
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Speaker 7: But if we're.

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Speaker 2: Explain put because he said that the Health are too slow, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you're wrong.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you're really wrong, because we're not going to

565
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Speaker 7: quibble over a half an hour distance between who put

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Speaker 7: out what information.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately that he came out before the official catles he

568
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Speaker 2: needs to make sure that people are getting information as

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Speaker 2: soon as possible.

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Speaker 5: As we all will.

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Speaker 6: Its not the first time the Chief Ministers used his

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Speaker 6: for locial media issues critical amounts of.

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Speaker 3: If the Chief Minister actually hadn't have done that earlier

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Speaker 3: in the week, then maybe he could have gotten away

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Speaker 3: with this, you know, with this post overnight sort of

576
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Speaker 3: having a crack and pointing out those political differences. Because

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Speaker 3: I take the point that you've made Cake that it's

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Speaker 3: his it's his politic call Facebook page.

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Speaker 4: We all get that.

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Speaker 3: But so then when you take that into account, you

581
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Speaker 3: can't actually use that same Facebook page earlier in the

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Speaker 3: week to put out very important, you know, information prior

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Speaker 3: to it going through those official channels. It would be

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent different if he was sharing a post

585
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Speaker 3: that you know, had come out from the Health Department

586
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Speaker 3: and saying we've got zero new cases overnight. But when

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Speaker 3: you're then directing people to that Facebook page to get information,

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Speaker 3: so they're feeling as though they've got to be following

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Speaker 3: that Facebook page to get that information on you know, Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: through the week, and then by Thursday you've turned it

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Speaker 3: into a political point scoring page. I just don't think

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Speaker 3: that that's fair. And I know that politics isn't fair often.

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Speaker 3: I know that, but you know, but then when you've

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Speaker 3: got this situation that's now unfolding now, the Chief Minister

595
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Speaker 3: has said he said that that the Northern Territory Police

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Speaker 3: Association statement was outrageous and that they're flabbergasted that a

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Speaker 3: man claiming to represent the Police has again entered the

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Speaker 3: political arena to tell the Chief Minister not to not

599
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Speaker 3: to be political for highlighting real comments he reckons. Now,

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Speaker 3: the Chief Minister says, I will not be bullied or

601
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Speaker 3: silenced by a union on how we protect Territorians from COVID.

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Speaker 3: The COLP, he says, made the political decision last year

603
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Speaker 3: that we should open our borders during Victoria's second wave.

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Speaker 3: The Chief Minister goes on to say the CLP made

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Speaker 3: the political decision this year we should give away our

606
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Speaker 3: vaccines to Sydney. And he goes on to say these

607
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Speaker 3: are political decisions by the COLP and it's a failure

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Speaker 3: of leadership by the COLP.

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Speaker 4: But can I just say the government actually did open

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Speaker 4: the border. So I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I sat right here next to Leo Finocchiaro last year

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Speaker 7: who said and gave you even that day on the

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Speaker 7: twentieth of June. She was if it was up to her,

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Speaker 7: she would open the borders. She said that right here,

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Speaker 7: and see actually I'm sitting in now. So that is

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Speaker 7: a failure of leadership when you don't listen to expert advice.

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Speaker 2: But that's not expert advice. The expert advices and expert

618
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Speaker 2: advice is to open the borders and then do hotspots.

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Speaker 2: So what you're doing, what you're doing, now, that's expert advice,

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Speaker 2: which is what that's what people would be following. We'd

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Speaker 2: follow experts advice expert.

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Speaker 3: What I actually find quite disturbing about then, the chiefness

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Speaker 3: of statement that's come through is it says the Northern

624
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Speaker 3: Territory Police Association choosing to support the CLP's decision to

625
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Speaker 3: open our borders and give away our vaccines is a

626
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Speaker 3: failure to protect every serving officer and the Union should

627
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Speaker 3: apologize to them. I think that is that's a step

628
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Speaker 3: gone too far.

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Speaker 8: That is not I see union has questioned is whether

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Speaker 8: that page you know, whether we should be using a

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Speaker 8: pandemic for political gain.

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Speaker 4: Now, I am firmly of.

633
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Speaker 3: The view that if you are performing well politically, you

634
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Speaker 3: do not use a pandemic to points your policies.

635
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Speaker 4: And your and your results themselves.

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Speaker 7: That the post that you're complaining about that Michael Gonna

637
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Speaker 7: put up half an hour before the health advice came out,

638
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 7: was simply to assure Territorians those that are on his

639
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 7: page where we were in that.

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Speaker 3: Lockdown everybody about it.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time.

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Speaker 7: I did not get the notification that they'd gone up

643
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Speaker 7: onto Michael's page, only those people on Facebook.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable that he didn't tell the remainder of his ministry.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't even tell the ministry that were you're

646
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Speaker 2: saying that you don't even know what's going on. That's

647
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Speaker 2: just shows really really poor leadership.

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Speaker 5: I did not see that Facebook post.

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Speaker 7: We have regular meetings and we are updated, but there

650
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 7: was a sensey and that information went out. It was

651
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 7: to assure territorians. That's not political. That's telling you where

652
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Speaker 7: we are in the lockdown and where things are headed,

653
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Speaker 7: to give them some assurance. There was no political it was.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't thirty minutes before. It was hours before, so

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Speaker 2: you've got it. It wasn't thirty minutes. Okay, so you're

656
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Speaker 2: actually a misleading public here. It wasn't thirty minutes. It

657
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Speaker 2: was ours the.

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Speaker 5: Bottom of your problem here that you've got a problem.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, should correct you misleading territory and instead

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Speaker 2: it was study minutes. It wasn't thirty minutes, it was

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Speaker 2: hours before.

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Speaker 1: They because the difference between us is only clear.

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Speaker 2: So you've stop misleading territory.

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Speaker 7: And we use political points scoring all the way through COVID,

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Speaker 7: and then you just want to call it out and

666
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Speaker 7: you're just a total hypocrit.

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Speaker 3: I said, well, the other thing is, though, obviously the

668
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Speaker 3: seed of daily is going to be an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: Now I understand Labor have actually announced who they're running,

670
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Speaker 3: or my understanding that missus Young, that.

671
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Speaker 7: You Young a wonderful candidate and set out and spent

672
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Speaker 7: a lot of time out in that area.

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Speaker 4: Do we know yet, Jared, who's running for the CELP.

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Speaker 2: I know that the CLP have made the advert in

675
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Speaker 2: the paper and that they're doing a precession. I think

676
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Speaker 2: it's this weekend, so I expect that they'd be announcement

677
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Speaker 2: in the.

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Speaker 3: Next few I'll tell you what, if the last twenty

679
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Speaker 3: four hours or fifteen minutes is anything to go by,

680
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Speaker 3: it's going to be an interesting It's going to be

681
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Speaker 3: an interesting bite.

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Speaker 7: And I will repeat the words of the Chief Minister.

683
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Speaker 7: The choice is clear, oh we're not this is not

684
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Speaker 7: a political to do that.

685
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Speaker 3: I think the choice is we're going to take a

686
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Speaker 3: very short break because I then want to talk about

687
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: something that a lot of people are very concerned about

688
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: throughout the week, and that was the situation that unfolded

689
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: in Alice Springs through the week and further, yeah, further

690
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Speaker 3: things that had happened as well when it comes to

691
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Speaker 3: some crime out in the Palmerston region. So more on

692
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: that in just a couple of moments. You are listening

693
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Speaker 3: to Mix one oh four point nine three sixty. You

694
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Speaker 3: are listening to Mix one oh four point nine and

695
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Speaker 3: it is the week that was brought to you by

696
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Speaker 3: the Silver Hebron Lawyers and also broadcasting on eighth in

697
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Speaker 3: Alice Springs. Now, speaking of Alice Springs, we know that

698
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: throughout the week will Police arrested a man who appears

699
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Speaker 3: to have doused himself in petrol after allegedly ramming a

700
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Speaker 3: vehicle into the Todd Tavern in Alice Springs. Now, the

701
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Speaker 3: thirty four year old was arrested in the CBD on

702
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Speaker 3: Thursday morning after.

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Speaker 4: He allegedly fled the scene.

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Speaker 3: Police said they received reports of the incident following an

705
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Speaker 3: altercation inside that tavern at about eleven thirty in the

706
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Speaker 3: morning yesterday and there are where there was a male

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Speaker 3: who was asked to leave the premises. Now it follows

708
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Speaker 3: on from pretty shocking incident a couple of days earlier

709
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Speaker 3: inside the Coles car park in Alice Springs, where a

710
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Speaker 3: drunk driver allegedly rammed into other vehicles.

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Speaker 4: A person was injured.

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Speaker 3: I know, you know, obviously these incidents are not don't

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Speaker 3: appear to be related in any way.

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Speaker 4: But Robin Lamley earlier in the.

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Speaker 3: Week, when she spoke to us, she she actually sounded

716
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Speaker 3: pretty shattered and at her wits end.

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Speaker 7: Can I say, Katie, I look, you know these two

718
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Speaker 7: and I've seen both of the incidents. You know they've

719
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Speaker 7: been widely spread online, and that they are not your normal.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's not what you would.

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Speaker 7: Get, would get up and coming, that these are not

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Speaker 7: normal for Alice Springs. I've been down there regularly. I

723
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Speaker 7: do talk to Robin, I do talk to other stakeholders

724
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Speaker 7: and other springs. These are not normal. Please don't say that, Jared,

725
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Speaker 7: because that's just I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, they had said though they're like they She literally

727
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Speaker 3: said to me on it the other day.

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Speaker 4: Katie, we are crying out to the government to help

729
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Speaker 4: us if you.

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Speaker 5: Knock back on those factors.

731
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Speaker 7: The two driving factors in both of those was alcohol,

732
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Speaker 7: and I have to tell you we have to continue

733
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Speaker 7: to do more in that space. I don't know if

734
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Speaker 7: any of you stood outside. I'm in a shopping center

735
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 7: when the lockdowns came this time. At last time, there

736
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 7: were more people in the bottle shop than they were

737
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 7: in coals And I think we need to continue to

738
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Speaker 7: work on this space. It is something we have been

739
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Speaker 7: committed to. We know that before COVID we did see

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Speaker 7: a reduction in crime related to alcohol related crime, but

741
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Speaker 7: during COVID and post COVID, well not post COVID, because

742
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Speaker 7: we've still got the pandemic.

743
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Speaker 5: That is the area we need to really.

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Speaker 7: Focus on, concentrate on because that's what influences domestic violence.

745
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Speaker 7: And as that minister with the carriage of that, we

746
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Speaker 7: need to do better.

747
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Speaker 5: I'm not going to sit here.

748
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Speaker 4: We don't like we keep hearing this.

749
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Speaker 3: You know that some of the alcohol measures are working,

750
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Speaker 3: but is it time to go back to you know,

751
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Speaker 3: to look at these things a bit differently. There's not

752
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Speaker 3: actually mandatory rehab as I understand it at this point.

753
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Speaker 3: My understanding is that you know, if that there is

754
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Speaker 3: somebody who is highly intoxicated, obviously it's different.

755
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Speaker 4: If you commit a crime you have to go into.

756
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Speaker 3: The watch house and they're you know, then I'm assuming arrested,

757
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: charged to go through those.

758
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Speaker 7: Processes pick both of these offenders up really quickly.

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Speaker 5: I think that's really cool.

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Speaker 3: But we also have a situation though, where you know,

761
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Speaker 3: there's literally you you either if you are somebody who's

762
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Speaker 3: intoxicated on the street and behaving not overly, well you're

763
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Speaker 3: either taken to the watchhouse is my understanding, or you know,

764
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Speaker 3: if you if you are visiting town here in Darwin,

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming the same in Ola Springs. If you're not

766
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Speaker 3: taken to the watch house, then where is there to go?

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Speaker 5: You get taken, Katie.

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Speaker 7: There's a process and the police are doing a superb

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Speaker 7: job at our Larakia.

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Speaker 5: It depends on the level of intoxication.

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Speaker 7: If the person's living rough, they will be picked up

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Speaker 7: often by Larikiir. I went out the other night on

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Speaker 7: patrol with the Larakire. They take them to the sobering

774
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Speaker 7: up shelter. But it's not where it ends. We say

775
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Speaker 7: that quite glibly. When they're in that well, they have

776
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Speaker 7: a sobering up sell to there. So what happens is

777
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Speaker 7: if it's a crime that occurs and there's alcohol and

778
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 7: revolt involved, they go with police. If they're just drunk

779
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Speaker 7: and just not just but they're drunk and perhaps disorderly.

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Speaker 5: They go then and it's not.

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Speaker 7: A crime being taken. They go to the sobering up shelter.

782
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Speaker 7: In the sobering up shelter, they are filled with experts

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Speaker 7: at try and get these people into a program.

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Speaker 5: You also forget.

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Speaker 4: When you don't there.

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Speaker 7: The bands Drinkers register. If you get yourself on the

787
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Speaker 7: band drinkers Register, you absolutely need to do with the programs.

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Speaker 4: And so there's the difference.

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Speaker 3: Istill actually stay in that sobering up shelter or you're

790
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Speaker 3: forced to do some kind of rehab or.

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Speaker 7: Else you stay on the band drinkers register. Absolutely you

792
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Speaker 7: are way to get.

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Speaker 1: On, except for everyone on the band Drinkers Register being forced.

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Speaker 7: It depends what you're on there for. So you go

795
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Speaker 7: on the band drinkers register. If you actually for drink driving,

796
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Speaker 7: for example, you go on the band drinkers Register. So

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Speaker 7: what that means is then the court when they're giving

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Speaker 7: you a sentence around you know you've got to find

799
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Speaker 7: they actually may mandate you have to do that as well.

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Speaker 2: That should get your license back. Remember, crime out here

801
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Speaker 2: in the territory is out of control. Look at the

802
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: last speaks. The crime stacks are going up through the roof.

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Speaker 2: You know, just to name a few alcohol rated assaults

804
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 2: forty percent in Darwin, twenty seven percent in Catherine, seventy

805
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: five percent in Parmesan, sixty four percent outside that major center.

806
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: So territory is are crying out for crime and that

807
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: needs to be more work in this space. Remember they've

808
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: been in the powerful last five years and then to

809
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: see the last twelve or so years before that, so

810
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Speaker 2: our the last twenty odd years, the government have been

811
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Speaker 2: in government for to sixteen out of twenty years. How

812
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Speaker 2: much time do they need to be able to fix

813
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Speaker 2: the problem. They're just going back, going down. They're getting worse,

814
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: and it's territory territory.

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Speaker 4: If they're going down.

816
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Speaker 3: I challenge anybody you know to listen to that interview

817
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Speaker 3: that I did yesterday with Shelley who owns the Coli

818
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: I g A and was in that situation yesterday where

819
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: their business was broken into again. She was in tears

820
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: on the show as she spoke about the impact that

821
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Speaker 3: it has. This follows on from them having around fifty

822
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars worth of dammage earlier in the year, when

823
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Speaker 3: all of those glass. All of the windows were smashed

824
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Speaker 3: and alcohol obviously stolen. We also know earlier in the

825
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: week Peewee's was targeted in a separate, very separate incident

826
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Speaker 3: where they were broken into.

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Speaker 4: Now I know that some people listening will.

828
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Speaker 3: Go, Okay, well, it's property damage, you know, it's you

829
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: could say that, it's not the end of the world.

830
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Speaker 3: But it is absolute kick in the guts for people.

831
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Speaker 4: It is bloody hard and this time to start.

832
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Speaker 2: Listening because we're talking about alcohol related assaults. You're talking

833
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Speaker 2: about alcohol. That's what we're talking about. Figure and I

834
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: must say, the figures to do out today for the

835
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Speaker 2: next month so interesting to see what they are. But

836
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Speaker 2: I'm just going on to figure something.

837
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Speaker 7: In the last right across overall in the Northern Territory,

838
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Speaker 7: housebreakings are down there.

839
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Speaker 2: About alcohol related Why are you trying to change some

840
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: much the subject talking about alcohol related assaults?

841
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 6: Shelly on Shelley on the show, Look this this, I've

842
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 6: sat here before and said things most likely will get

843
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 6: worse and we'll get we'll see real harm and hurt

844
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: and people getting killed. Now we've seen that in Alice Springs.

845
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Speaker 6: You know, the the.

846
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Speaker 1: Fellow, the care worker.

847
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Speaker 6: Who was I think on the motorbike, the man on

848
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Speaker 6: Ross River Highway.

849
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Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying.

850
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Speaker 6: They're all related to alcohol. Maybe they are, maybe they're not,

851
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 6: but they were hit and runs. People have died. We've

852
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 6: had someone go on a rampage in a car park.

853
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's it's a weapon of choice these days,

854
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 6: when you can't get access to you know, sharp instruments

855
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 6: and goodness knows what else, so you get behind the

856
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: wheel of the car. And I think that does exceptionally

857
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 6: more damage as we've seen down in Melbourne and places

858
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Speaker 6: like that. So you know, forget all the good work

859
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Speaker 6: that agencies do and and police emergency service.

860
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it puts that to aside.

861
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Speaker 6: And that's a given, all right, that's a given very

862
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 6: difficult circumstances. But I agree with Jared to a certain extent.

863
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 6: And I hee you what Kate's saying. It is getting

864
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 6: worse now. They're not necessarily drinking more or they're not

865
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Speaker 6: necessarily taking more drugs, I don't think, but something is

866
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 6: fundamentally wrong and everyone is working hard to address the

867
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Speaker 6: fundamental problem. I get all that, but it is still

868
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Speaker 6: getting worse in those smaller towns I mean, if it's

869
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Speaker 6: ethnic Darwin, it's obviously not right on Smith Street more.

870
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Speaker 6: But these smaller communities where there's perhaps not as much

871
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Speaker 6: opportunity for jobs or entertainment or recreation.

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Speaker 5: So this is this is enough of it.

873
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Speaker 6: This is the recreation of choice, is getting the car

874
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Speaker 6: and run around town and create that.

875
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Speaker 7: You're getting to the number of it. And I said

876
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Speaker 7: at the front, and Jared clearly wasn't listening, that alcohol

877
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Speaker 7: is the space that we need to do more work

878
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 7: in because we've clearly.

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Speaker 5: You had your rant.

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Speaker 2: You've had sixteen years to do the work.

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Speaker 1: You know that.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, give you one example.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to get exciting right now?

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Speaker 7: So in twenty sixteen, when I became elected and all

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Speaker 7: the shops was being absolutely end of four years of

886
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Speaker 7: the COLP was being ravaged by crime. I worked with

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Speaker 7: all my local shop owners. We went in and we

888
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Speaker 7: did bit secure. I had a shopkeeper that very much

889
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Speaker 7: like this one with you're highlighting their kadium. My heart

890
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 7: goes out to them, but was sleeping in his shop

891
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Speaker 7: over night. We have worked with those shop owners now

892
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Speaker 7: and that level of crime no longer occurs and we

893
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 7: have to keep working at it. There is no silverbuller,

894
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Speaker 7: and what Kesier says is utterly correct. Overall, a lot

895
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Speaker 7: of these statistics are going down and they're trending.

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Speaker 5: You have to look over years.

897
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Speaker 7: You can't just look at it compared to last month

898
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Speaker 7: because that's unfair.

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Speaker 4: But we all get that.

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Speaker 3: But like again, I'm just going to say that, it's

901
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Speaker 3: like it's real cold comfort. If you are somebody who's

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Speaker 3: the absolute of these crimes.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I've had my home broken into it's cold comfort. Yeah,

904
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Speaker 7: I know those business owners, it's cold comfort. What we

905
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Speaker 7: have to do is keep working. But we have to

906
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Speaker 7: have the big picture at the same time, and Keyser

907
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Speaker 7: hit it on the head. We have got people that

908
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Speaker 7: are generationally in poverty.

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Speaker 1: Poverty, drug generations.

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Speaker 7: Two generations minimum. We need to do this and and this.

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Speaker 7: You have to do that hard work in the background

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Speaker 7: and doesn't give you an instant outcome.

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Speaker 5: It just as.

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Speaker 7: Well there's also one yes generation, because will.

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Speaker 3: Alice Springs listeners are going to be getting irate if

916
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Speaker 3: I'm to give you one.

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Speaker 4: There has to be a stop point, like there.

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Speaker 1: Has to be a circuit breaker, that's right.

919
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Speaker 7: And if there's not, we are targeting with operations down there.

920
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Speaker 7: We are looking at lots more alternatives to get kids

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Speaker 7: out of the city at night.

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Speaker 5: It's not all crime. These two ones you've.

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Speaker 7: Highlighted there were both perpetrated by our adults. We do

924
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Speaker 7: need to look and work harder in the alcohol space.

925
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Speaker 7: But can I tell you, I want to make sure

926
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Speaker 7: today that nobody thinks that any of this lies with police,

927
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Speaker 7: because both of these offenders were picked up quickly. If

928
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Speaker 7: you compare this tris of Ala Springs to a town interstate,

929
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Speaker 7: the same sized town has around average eighty. We've got

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Speaker 7: over two hundred and fifty police officers in our springs,

931
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Speaker 7: so it's not a matter of resources. We need to

932
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Speaker 7: keep working in this space. We will keep working.

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Speaker 5: Space I speak.

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Speaker 7: We have plenty of leadership down there, and I'll tell

935
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Speaker 7: you he's a good leader down there, and that's Robin Lamley.

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Speaker 2: He does a good job.

937
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Speaker 3: Come here, going to have to take a very short break.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine.

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Speaker 3: It is well, it is the week that was brought

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Speaker 3: to you by the Silver Hebron Lawyers, and we are

941
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Speaker 3: just about to wrap up.

942
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Speaker 4: This morning for the week that was.

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Speaker 3: We're in the studio with us Jerreed Melee, Kate Warden

944
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Speaker 3: and Kesey Epuric. But before we do this morning, we

945
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Speaker 3: have spoken throughout the week with both Tourism Top End

946
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Speaker 3: and also Tourism Central Australia about the impact of lockdowns

947
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Speaker 3: on tourism, not just here in the Northern territory, but

948
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Speaker 3: the impact that the lockdowns interstate are obviously having on

949
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Speaker 3: tourism around the territory. And I know that in New

950
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: South Wales well, they've announced a bit of a plan.

951
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Speaker 3: We spoke briefly about this earlier about those well, a

952
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Speaker 3: plan for vaccinated Australians and you know, involving a COVID

953
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Speaker 3: passport to dine out and circulate freely etc. It's once

954
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Speaker 3: they get to seventy percent of the population having those jabs.

955
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Speaker 4: I know that the Chief Minister had.

956
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Speaker 3: Flagged the possibility of needing a COVID passport. I guess

957
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Speaker 3: you'd call it or a bit of a you know,

958
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Speaker 3: whether we need that vaccine certificate to be able to

959
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Speaker 3: show that. It's also something that Anastasia Palachet's spoken about

960
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Speaker 3: in Queensland and also.

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Speaker 4: McGowan in WA. I mean, is that the pathway forward here?

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Speaker 4: I think?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know about a lot of people listening,

964
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Speaker 6: and I don't know about caden jery. But I've got

965
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Speaker 6: a medical booklet because I've been to Kenyon. You've got

966
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Speaker 6: to have yellow fever and a whole lot of other vaccinations,

967
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Speaker 6: and you've got to be able to prove and show it.

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Speaker 6: So you know, a lot of people have got these

969
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Speaker 6: vaccination booklets that you take with you when you go

970
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Speaker 6: overseason in your pass. And I don't think putting a

971
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Speaker 6: vaccine from the COVID is any different to hepatitis B

972
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Speaker 6: A and bloody whatever else we have to have. And

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Speaker 6: what you do is you go, I know, you can

974
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Speaker 6: go onto that my guv site thing. Oh and you

975
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 6: could probably download it and stick it in your book.

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Speaker 6: And I don't have an issue with that, you know, like,

977
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Speaker 6: let's be honest. I mean, when I haven't had children,

978
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Speaker 6: but I know when we were kids, you know, every

979
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 6: so often we have to get sent to the clique

980
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 6: to have your triple antigen and had our polio and

981
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Speaker 6: had this and had that so and that was put

982
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Speaker 6: in a little book.

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Speaker 2: There's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: I know there are other people that are saying, you know,

985
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Speaker 3: it's my body, it's my choice, and why should I

986
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Speaker 3: be made feel that I'm not allowed to do different

987
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: things because I choose to not have that VACA.

988
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: That's fine, you choose to vaccine, but Quantus CEO and

989
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 6: the shareholders, they choose not to let you fly on

990
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Speaker 6: our aeroplanes because that's going to be our policy position.

991
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: We're a private enterprise. We want vaccinated people.

992
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 5: On aeroplane leadership.

993
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: So if you don't, and there's another company, some company that.

994
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: Does can SPSPC SPC, here means you have a right.

995
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Speaker 1: I also have a right, and your right is not

996
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Speaker 1: greater than my right.

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Speaker 6: But if I've got if I've got an electoral office,

998
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 6: and I've got staff who you know up in the

999
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 6: age brackets, and I want them to be protected, plus

1000
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Speaker 6: everyone else who comes into my office, and then if

1001
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Speaker 6: we made a rule for electoral offices.

1002
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Speaker 5: We have at the moment we have coming in or

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Speaker 5: you must do.

1004
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Speaker 1: That, then that's my right.

1005
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Speaker 6: You have rights too, but you know yours are not

1006
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Speaker 6: greater than my right. So tough luck to that person

1007
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 6: who says my body, We've got.

1008
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Speaker 2: To think about show you white. And then worldwide as well,

1009
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Speaker 2: because we can't continue to lock down. We can't continue

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Speaker 2: to keep ourselves separate from the world. We need to

1011
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: be able to get ourselves actiate, get through this and

1012
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: get back to what we can.

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Speaker 6: All those stupid anti vaxes, they're going to die off,

1014
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 6: So t about that.

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Speaker 1: Ass and they die.

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Speaker 7: And if anybody grew up, you know, with people that

1017
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Speaker 7: had polio, and you see the damage it's done to

1018
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 7: people that we now vaccinate our children against that this

1019
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 7: is no different. We need to get vaccinated, you know,

1020
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 7: everybody needs to get vaccinated so that we can go

1021
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 7: back to somewhat of a normality. I don't know that

1022
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Speaker 7: we'll ever go back to being completely nor what I

1023
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Speaker 7: don't know that the gyms will ever stop wiping down

1024
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Speaker 7: their equipment.

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Speaker 6: Because it's probably stopped the spread of other journeys.

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Speaker 5: We just keep polio in mind people.

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Speaker 7: If you know anybody, certainly my generation, my parents generation

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Speaker 7: up with people with well.

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Speaker 4: We are going to have to we are going to

1030
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Speaker 4: have to wrap up. Can I just dance very quickly?

1031
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Speaker 5: Though?

1032
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Speaker 3: Before we wrap up this morning? Are we rescheduling the

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Speaker 3: week of parliament that was lost?

1034
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: Look at me, I think I think we should definitely

1035
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Speaker 2: do that, which we only work for about thirty days

1036
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Speaker 2: a year and my school, my school kids are uniform.

1037
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Speaker 2: So we need to get to parlism and get I think.

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Speaker 7: Just said he only works thirty days, sixty five days

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Speaker 7: a year.

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Speaker 5: I can I qualify this. It should be purpose of parliament,

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Speaker 5: you'll agree.

1042
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: Easier is to get legislation correct.

1043
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Speaker 7: We need to look at the legislative and if we

1044
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Speaker 7: need more days, let me be clear. If we need

1045
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Speaker 7: more days to get legislation through, those days will be

1046
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Speaker 7: called on or I don't mind sitting until eleven, you know,

1047
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Speaker 7: ten eleven o'clock at night. I don't whatever it takes

1048
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Speaker 7: to get that legislation through. I'm not afraid of hard work.

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Speaker 7: I'm happy to do that. Working more than thirty days,

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Speaker 7: ye could cay.

1051
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 6: What we could do, what the Parliament could do is

1052
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 6: we've got a week in September. We can must make

1053
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Speaker 6: that a two week session and I think that would

1054
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Speaker 6: everyone comfortable.

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Speaker 4: All right, We better wrap up. Gang. Always great to

1056
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Speaker 4: have you all in the studio.

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Speaker 3: Jereb Mailey, the Deputy Opposition.

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Speaker 4: Wait, thank you so much for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank everyone.

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Speaker 3: Kate Warden, the Minister of Territory, Families and Sport and

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Speaker 3: various other portfolios.

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Speaker 7: Your time, and if I can just plug to everybody,

1063
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Speaker 7: make sure you get your run with because Katie can't

1064
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Speaker 7: do it. I'll get your run with Dad application and

1065
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Speaker 7: because I'll be sitting there really cold and in the

1066
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Speaker 7: morning and watching you ring for.

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Speaker 3: Everybody to get into it, get onto it, and Kesier Puic.

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Speaker 6: Thanks you, big shout out to all our fieries again,

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Speaker 6: thank you, thank you all telling me one and volunteers.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to Mix one oh four point nine's

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Speaker 3: three sixty.

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Speaker 4: It is the Week that was