Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 2: Just before nine o'clock last night, the jury returned guilty
Speaker 2: verdicts against all three defendants. It was absolute shambles, to
Speaker 2: tell you the truth, just absolutely really put his blood
Speaker 2: on his clothing. The day after the alleged a time.
Speaker 1: On a showow mud Bank and it fits Roy River basically.
Speaker 3: I think most of the people are used to me
Speaker 3: are good people.
Speaker 1: I think a really important question we need to ask
Speaker 1: is how many Indigenous prisoners in Australia are innocent.
Speaker 2: This is Kurtain, a podcast where we pull back the
Speaker 2: blinds to shine a light on the darkest parts of
Speaker 2: our justice system and ask who are the victims. I'm
Speaker 2: Amy Maguire and.
Speaker 1: I'm Martin Hodgson, a senior advocate for the Foreign Prisoner
Speaker 1: Support Service. And a warning, this series contains the names
Speaker 1: of deceased peoples and has distressing content that might upset
Speaker 1: some listeners.
Speaker 3: Welcome to a special episode of Curtain, the podcast. We've
Speaker 3: been working on keV Henry's case for more than four
Speaker 3: years now, and you've followed us over sixty episodes through
Speaker 3: a long journey that dates back to the year nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety one. Over recent months, people around the world have
Speaker 3: been socially isolating to protect themselves, their families, and their
Speaker 3: communities from the deadly coronavirus. We've also heard many people
Speaker 3: complain about being in hotels, luxury hotels, five star hotels
Speaker 3: for just fourteen days and claiming its like prison conditions. Well,
Speaker 3: Kevin Henry has spent ten thousand, three hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: five days in prison. But this year, on January twenty,
Speaker 3: why the rest of Australia was battling the bushfires and
Speaker 3: before the coronavirus had hit, something very special happened. Amy,
Speaker 3: can you tell the listeners what happened on January twenty
Speaker 3: this year?
Speaker 2: Sure, Martin, So, on January twenty this year, around nine am,
Speaker 2: I think it was, I received a call and on
Speaker 2: the other line was Kevin Henry. And that's not in itself,
Speaker 2: because over the past three years we've been talking quite
Speaker 2: regularly on the phone while he's been incarcerated in the
Speaker 2: Capricornia Correctional Center. But what was different the fact there
Speaker 2: wasn't the message at the beginning of the call you're
Speaker 2: receiving a call from an inmate from the Capricornia Correctional Center.
Speaker 2: It was actually just a call because Kevin Henry had
Speaker 2: just been released and he was a freeman. I'll buy
Speaker 2: it on parole conditions. So Kevin Henry, for the first
Speaker 2: time in nearly three decades, was actually leaving the confines
Speaker 2: of prison without handcuffs, and I remember just thinking, Wow,
Speaker 2: that's amazing because he actually made that point that you know,
Speaker 2: this is the first time he'd been outside without handcuff
Speaker 2: for nearly twenty eight twenty nine years. I remember just thinking, Oh, God,
Speaker 2: imagine how that feels. And he was talking about how
Speaker 2: it was so amazing to see the mountain and so, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was sort of it was such a special day
Speaker 2: for myself, for you and o Martin, for everyone who's
Speaker 2: helping Kevin's fight, everyone who's known his story around rock Hamton,
Speaker 2: all of his family, but most importantly for Kevin himself.
Speaker 2: And that's something that we haven't been able to tell
Speaker 2: our listeners for a whole host of reasons, which we
Speaker 2: may be able to discuss today. But as of now,
Speaker 2: Kevin Henry has been a free man for the past
Speaker 2: four months, but still obviously under parole conditions. So Martin,
Speaker 2: can I ask you a little bit about that day
Speaker 2: January twenty How did it feel like, you know, for
Speaker 2: the past three years working on Kevin's case, trying to
Speaker 2: get him out because we know he's an innocent man.
Speaker 2: From your perspective, what were your feelings on this day?
Speaker 3: Just a huge relief and happiness for Kevin and his family.
Speaker 3: I think it's a huge justification for Kevin's fight for
Speaker 3: thirty years that he walks out of there in civilian clothing,
Speaker 3: no handcuffs, and you know, is able just to look
Speaker 3: around and take everything in for the first time since
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one, and just thinking about Kevin that whole
Speaker 3: day and how much the world has changed, how much
Speaker 3: he's been robbed of, you know, watching his family grow
Speaker 3: up and everything that we all take for granted. And
Speaker 3: perhaps people because of the coronavirus have a little bit
Speaker 3: more insight, only a tiny bit into what it's like
Speaker 3: to miss the things we normally do day to day,
Speaker 3: and you have to remember that for the best part
Speaker 3: of thirty years, Kevin has been robbed full of that.
Speaker 3: So for me, very emotional day, just so happy for
Speaker 3: Kevin and his family and that vindication for Kevin to
Speaker 3: have stayed so strong for so long and to find
Speaker 3: we walk out of there from out behind the bars
Speaker 3: is just an incredible thing. So, and you know, to,
Speaker 3: like you say, to speak to him under just completely
Speaker 3: different conditions. We're so used to being listened to whenever
Speaker 3: we speak to Kevin, having those conversations recorded, only being
Speaker 3: able to speak to him for sort of six or
Speaker 3: seven minutes at a time, and often being cut off
Speaker 3: or trying to ring back. And yeah, it's just this
Speaker 3: new beginning after a very long fight. And obviously we
Speaker 3: knew that day was coming, and as we will explain
Speaker 3: a little bit, we had to keep that secret and
Speaker 3: we've still kept a lot to ourselves and we won't
Speaker 3: reveal everything today. But even knowing it was coming, you're
Speaker 3: just still waiting for that moment to happen. So I
Speaker 3: definitely didn't sleep well for a few days leading up,
Speaker 3: but Eavan slept like a baby and has just been
Speaker 3: doing incredibly well. And I guess, Amy, you've spent time
Speaker 3: with Kevin since he's been out. How has that been
Speaker 3: and how's he doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So the thing, the other thing, amazing thing is I
Speaker 2: hadn't been able to see Kevin for about a year
Speaker 2: face to face, So I hadn't been able to go
Speaker 2: to the jail, So it really has been amazing to
Speaker 2: just be able to catch up with him and just
Speaker 2: as you said, talk free of surveillance, but just talking
Speaker 2: a friendly setting over a couple of copy. The thing
Speaker 2: I think is most amazing is just how he has
Speaker 2: been so quickly able to reconnect with his community, his
Speaker 2: family and a Wrribinda, but all of the mob he
Speaker 2: grew up with, and he's come out, and there's been
Speaker 2: the recognition immediately since he's come out that he's innocent,
Speaker 2: that he was done wrong. For so many years, there's
Speaker 2: not been one person his approach, you're a criminal, not
Speaker 2: But I think that's been the really amazing thing for
Speaker 2: Kevin to know he's come out with the knowledge that,
Speaker 2: you know, the majority of people who know about the case, no,
Speaker 2: he's innocent. And I think that's been being very special.
Speaker 2: It's very different, even though he hasn't been exonerated yet
Speaker 2: and obviously that's the flight we're going to continue. We
Speaker 2: know he's an innocent man, and that's something that's been
Speaker 2: stressed by a lot of the mobs he's seen just
Speaker 2: around the shops, you know, in Rocky and I think
Speaker 2: that's been really hardening for him. And has helped in
Speaker 2: the healing process. I can tell you that Kevin Henry
Speaker 2: is very strong persons, a very strong man, and yeah,
Speaker 2: he's definitely going to get through this. So the past
Speaker 2: few months, you know, there's always going to be struggled,
Speaker 2: as anyone who has been through such an adult a
Speaker 2: deal will have. But he's really taking it really well.
Speaker 2: And the first time I threw him, he had his parameter,
Speaker 2: Eels Jersey on straight away, so he's really doing well
Speaker 2: to just continue his life. So yeah, I think that's
Speaker 2: what's been the really great match support. And I'll just
Speaker 2: give one example. I was in the local shopping center
Speaker 2: with Kevin and I saw a local Aboriginal man who
Speaker 2: I knew had been listening to the podcast and I
Speaker 2: hadn't met Kevin before. He come out straight away and
Speaker 2: said a load to me and immediately started talking about
Speaker 2: the podcast and how, you know, how disgusting it was,
Speaker 2: what's happened to Kevin, and how he was I think
Speaker 2: thirty or forty episodes in and then I said, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: this is Kevin here, and the look on his face
Speaker 2: and it was just amazing and what he said to
Speaker 2: Kevin then and hopefully kind of been near future, you
Speaker 2: will be able to hear Kevin's own story from his
Speaker 2: own voice, and that's where it's incredibly powerful. But for now,
Speaker 2: he's doing really well, better than I think anyone else
Speaker 2: given the circumstances, because you maybe just informal listeners about
Speaker 2: why it was important for Kevin to get out in
Speaker 2: for all first before exonerating, because I think in other cases,
Speaker 2: obviously people have been cleared and been completely exonerated when
Speaker 2: they've walked free. Why was it important for us to
Speaker 2: go down that pole route?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And I think most people's understanding comes from
Speaker 3: the American system, and obviously the Australian legal system works
Speaker 3: very differently. And I also think most people's understanding comes
Speaker 3: from the movies. And very rarely do you have this
Speaker 3: clear cut where you spend decades in prison and then
Speaker 3: one day you just walk out. So the exoneration process
Speaker 3: is a very lengthy one and it's an unusual one
Speaker 3: in Australia, unlike in the United States, for example, where
Speaker 3: someone for example, sentenced to death will be able to
Speaker 3: appeal all the way up until literally the last minute,
Speaker 3: and you have appeals to appellate courts, Circuit courts, the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court of the United States, you petition the governor
Speaker 3: right up to the last moment, either for clemency or
Speaker 3: for a stay in Australia. That's just not how it works.
Speaker 3: And so what we've been in the process of doing,
Speaker 3: and we're preparing a second round of material, is to
Speaker 3: present that material to the Governor of Queensland for an
Speaker 3: official pardon for Kevin. But in the meantime, while all
Speaker 3: that goes along, Kevin's been sitting in prison. So what
Speaker 3: we began to do quite a long time ago, a
Speaker 3: number of years ago, was enter into negotiations for parole
Speaker 3: for Kevin. And clearly that there's two options you can take.
Speaker 3: You can stay in prison and never know how long
Speaker 3: it might take and whether you will be granted a pardon.
Speaker 3: And I should state that not a single living Aboriginal
Speaker 3: persons Land serving a life sentence has ever been granted
Speaker 3: a pardon. So when you're trying to make history, you
Speaker 3: can't play with someone's life. So the very important thing
Speaker 3: to us was that we got Kevin out of prison,
Speaker 3: and for that I think we need to understand that
Speaker 3: that means that Kevin is still under parole conditions. Which
Speaker 3: he absolutely accepts and he's doing really well with that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of details we won't go into because
Speaker 3: they're just not necessary on any of that, but the
Speaker 3: idea was really that to allow Kevin to be out
Speaker 3: on the outside and begin to enjoy his life and
Speaker 3: reclaim his freedom while we continue to fight for his
Speaker 3: full exoneration and a complete pardon. So that's also part
Speaker 3: of the reason you won't hear Kevin's voice today. Part
Speaker 3: of parole conditions in Queensland is that a person doesn't
Speaker 3: speak to the media, and for now, obviously Kevin isn't
Speaker 3: doing that, and I will state that we won't tolerate
Speaker 3: media approaching Kevin. Any media questions can come to me.
Speaker 3: It's very obvious to contact through Curtin the podcast website,
Speaker 3: which is freely available on Google. There's our Twitter page,
Speaker 3: our Facebook page, which are all very well known, so
Speaker 3: any media thinking of making contact can just forget about that.
Speaker 3: But the main thing was to ensure that more days
Speaker 3: weren't lost for Kevin and for his family. Kevin's been
Speaker 3: in prison for the best part of thirty years. His
Speaker 3: father has passed away in that time. Many of his
Speaker 3: friends and family have passed away in that time and
Speaker 3: it just wasn't fair or right for him to spend
Speaker 3: any longer in prison than he needed to, so we
Speaker 3: had to make a strategic decision. And getting parole wasn't
Speaker 3: easy either, and that was a long drawn out process
Speaker 3: that we put thousands of hours of work into with
Speaker 3: Helen Blabber, who we need to think a lot from
Speaker 3: Prisoner's Legal Service, and I would encourage people to support
Speaker 3: the work they do. So really where we sit now
Speaker 3: is Kevin is out and on parole, and we are
Speaker 3: continuing to push and do all the work we need
Speaker 3: to do to have his name cleared once and for all.
Speaker 3: But as I say, given that no Aboriginal person has
Speaker 3: ever been pardoned while they've been alive in Queensland, we
Speaker 3: are trying to make history here and that's not going
Speaker 3: to happen overnight.
Speaker 2: Martin. I has also wanted to stress the vital work
Speaker 2: of Helen at the Prison of Legal Service and much
Speaker 2: been unsum work as the majority of the work she
Speaker 2: and the prison as Legal Service do, and she has
Speaker 2: just been She's been Kevin's lawyer for the past I'm
Speaker 2: not sure how many years, but she has been so
Speaker 2: instrumental to what we're seeing today in Kevin being able
Speaker 2: to free book out of those walls on for all.
Speaker 2: I just really want to thank Hellen and the Prisoner's
Speaker 2: Legal Service and the people who do it without any
Speaker 2: recognition and also without the majority of its compensations. Unders
Speaker 2: do it because they know that this is the right
Speaker 2: thing to do. And I think that's shown what I've
Speaker 2: seen in helping Kevin and campaigning for Kevin is that
Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of those people in Queensland
Speaker 2: or nationally. I just really want to stress how important
Speaker 2: and vital the work of Palen Blabber is in the
Speaker 2: prison of Legal Service and how it should be supported
Speaker 2: mad And I guess some of our listeners maybe thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, like Kevin is under prole conditions in which
Speaker 2: he can't speak to media, why are we actually why
Speaker 2: are we actually informing our listeners of this now currently?
Speaker 3: Well, I think as people might understand that once someone
Speaker 3: gets out, word travels fast, and we wanted to give
Speaker 3: Kevin a few months to settle in and to adjust
Speaker 3: to being in the outside world. But also there's been
Speaker 3: a lot of chatter on social media about his case,
Speaker 3: obviously because there's been a lot of media, primarily through
Speaker 3: the podcast, and for that we have to thank our listeners.
Speaker 3: Everybody that's listened to this podcast has helped play a
Speaker 3: role in getting to the point that you know, as
Speaker 3: we speak, Kevin is sitting in his living room and
Speaker 3: not in a prison cell. But it was important to
Speaker 3: us and I think it's important for Kevin that there's
Speaker 3: no misinformation out in the public domain, that also people
Speaker 3: have followed this case very closely, and that people be
Speaker 3: informed of what's been happening, because I think it's important
Speaker 3: that we understand that there's many, many other Aboriginal people
Speaker 3: like Kevin Henry in prison. Derek Bromley is obviously someone
Speaker 3: we've spoken about a lot who is approaching nearly forty
Speaker 3: years in prison for a crime he clearly did not commit,
Speaker 3: as you've heard on an earlier episode of Curtin. And
Speaker 3: so we also want people to understand the process that
Speaker 3: these are very drawn out procedures. This is not something
Speaker 3: that happens overnight. So it's as much about keeping people
Speaker 3: informed about the way things work as it is about
Speaker 3: avoiding misinformation. As we've stated, Kevin's not going to give
Speaker 3: any public comment until he's cleared and allowed to do so.
Speaker 3: But I also should add too that the people that
Speaker 3: have known and supported Kevin, known been out and supported Kevin,
Speaker 3: have been wonderful not only in their love and support
Speaker 3: for Kevin, but in making sure that Kevin wasn't harassed
Speaker 3: by the media and that his transition after all this
Speaker 3: time into regular life has been made as easy as possible.
Speaker 3: And for that, I really want to acknowledge the strength
Speaker 3: of the war Abinda community and thank the elders and
Speaker 3: all the people in Worabinda for their support for Kevin
Speaker 3: and what they've done to help us get to this day.
Speaker 3: You know, it's more than just us, and also the
Speaker 3: Aboriginal community of Rockhampton. There's just been this tremendous amount
Speaker 3: of support. And one thing that's really telling for me
Speaker 3: is that what people really need to understand is Kevin
Speaker 3: has served more time than almost any other prisoner in
Speaker 3: this circumstance in Australian history. And yet you're not going
Speaker 3: to hear of any QC or any amous lawyer, or
Speaker 3: anyone who has got to this point to get Kevin
Speaker 3: out breathing the fresh air on the outside. That has
Speaker 3: simply not happened. There's been no large amounts of money
Speaker 3: to do this. This has all been thousands of hours
Speaker 3: of volunteer work of people, whether it's Amy and myself,
Speaker 3: whether it's Helen who you've heard about, and whether it's
Speaker 3: the members of the community in Warabinda and people in
Speaker 3: Rockhampton who have done incredible things to do what they
Speaker 3: can to support Kevin. And most importantly, we often hear
Speaker 3: that lawyers and well known people are centered in these fights. Well,
Speaker 3: there's really only one person that has led this from
Speaker 3: start to finish, who was wronged more than anyone will
Speaker 3: ever understand, and who has maintained strength for the best
Speaker 3: part of thirty years, and that's Kevin Henry. And Kevin
Speaker 3: Henry never quit on Kevin Henry, and without him we
Speaker 3: could never have got to this point. We've always been
Speaker 3: working for Kevin. Helen's been working for Kevin, I have Amy,
Speaker 3: has the whole community who have supported him without money,
Speaker 3: without the usual things that any other case gets. Kevin's
Speaker 3: strength is what has kept us all going when we've
Speaker 3: thought we were doing it tough in trying to overcome
Speaker 3: this huge hurdle of seeking Kevin's freedom and most of all,
Speaker 3: it's Kevin who I want to pay the greatest tribute
Speaker 3: to for his incredible strength to overcome something none of
Speaker 3: us will ever understand and ever be able to comprehend.
Speaker 3: And I think people really need to think about that
Speaker 3: long and hard. When you hear of not only Kevin's case,
Speaker 3: but all of the other Aboriginal people you've heard about
Speaker 3: who are wrongly in prisoned around Australia. The enormous strength
Speaker 3: and dignity that they show behind bars every day to
Speaker 3: fight for their own freedom, years and years and years,
Speaker 3: not locked in bloody five star hotels for two weeks
Speaker 3: knowing they're going to get out, and with all the
Speaker 3: luxury and support, but tens of thousands of days. And
Speaker 3: I think people should just sit on that for a
Speaker 3: moment and think about the strength and residience of Kevin,
Speaker 3: of his family and his community, and of Aboriginal people
Speaker 3: more broadly. Forget about the QCs. They don't win these
Speaker 3: cases and they haven't contributed a single thing here. This
Speaker 3: is about the strength of one man and the culture
Speaker 3: he comes from.
Speaker 2: Money. He did briefly mention these generation fight and that
Speaker 2: it will be continuing. What can I guess listeners expect
Speaker 2: next or what are the next steps that we are
Speaker 2: able to tell our listeners.
Speaker 3: So I think one thing we can say is that
Speaker 3: now that we've made this information available, we will be
Speaker 3: able to update our listeners more regularly on where we're
Speaker 3: up to with the exoneration. As people will probably understand
Speaker 3: a crime that took place thirty years ago, with many
Speaker 3: of the witnesses tragically no longer with us, and with
Speaker 3: a seriously botched police investigation, it's very difficult to unravel.
Speaker 3: So not only are we having to collate witness statements
Speaker 3: and present everything in what is a huge document, It's
Speaker 3: the size of a textbook to be put together on
Speaker 3: this case. To present all the evidence, it's really important
Speaker 3: that no stone is left unturned, and so we're really
Speaker 3: going through the process of drafting all of that up
Speaker 3: in a legal framework and putting all the evidence together
Speaker 3: that not only shows Kevin's innocence, but shows what really
Speaker 3: happened and in that period in nineteen ninety one that
Speaker 3: tragically took the life of Linda. And what's really important
Speaker 3: to us is that the truth is ultimately known and
Speaker 3: comes out. So that process is where we put all
Speaker 3: collate all this information, as I say, into a huge
Speaker 3: document and I have some assistance with doing that, and
Speaker 3: then it is presented to the Governor of Queensland for
Speaker 3: their consideration and they hold the sole power to grant
Speaker 3: an official pardon. But now that we've made this information
Speaker 3: available today that we have will update our listeners and
Speaker 3: also we could share some more information through our Facebook
Speaker 3: page and on Twitter as we go so people are
Speaker 3: aware of what's going on, because this is going to
Speaker 3: be a process that many other Aboriginal prisoners are going
Speaker 3: to need to go down. Derek Bromley, as I mentioned,
Speaker 3: is in South Australia, and there are hundreds of others
Speaker 3: who faced this similar situation where appeals processes ran out
Speaker 3: and were wasted years ago through no fault of the
Speaker 3: prisoner themselves. And this is the only process available to
Speaker 3: us in Australia is to appeal to the Governor, and
Speaker 3: it's an exhaustive and long process, but we are absolutely
Speaker 3: committed and will not stop until the records are amended
Speaker 3: and Kevin Henry is marked a free and innocent man.
Speaker 2: And I also want to think another very important factor
Speaker 2: in Kevin's recent release from prison, and that's obviously the
Speaker 2: audience for Curtain, and all of the support is for Curtain,
Speaker 2: but articularly those who have stuck with the podcast as
Speaker 2: we've continued over the past three years. Your support has
Speaker 2: been so important in so many different ways that hopefully
Speaker 2: one day we'll be able to tell the full story
Speaker 2: of how you know, important international and national support but
Speaker 2: also local supporter really helped. And then it's the man
Speaker 2: who's been wrongly convicted for the past twenty I mean
Speaker 2: getting up to thirty years now. So I just want
Speaker 2: to thank for our listeners as well, all across the
Speaker 2: world and all across Australia physically in rock Camden, because
Speaker 2: there have been a lot of supporters at a local
Speaker 2: level and very important sorry I won't say that, and
Speaker 2: very important supporters as well. So I want to thank
Speaker 2: our listeners. And I also want to echo the sentiment
Speaker 2: of Marden in which he you know, talked about the
Speaker 2: most important person in this who's never given up the fight,
Speaker 2: and that's Kevin himself. And I can tell our listeners
Speaker 2: that he is not going to quit any time soon,
Speaker 2: that this fight will be continuing, not only until this
Speaker 2: injustice is reversed and you know, his colleagues, but also
Speaker 2: for other Aboriginal prisoners and for other young Murray kids
Speaker 2: growing up today who are going through the same things
Speaker 2: that Kevin went through it when he was young. So
Speaker 2: I want to thank not only our listeners, but Kevin
Speaker 2: himself for being an inspiration as we continue to work
Speaker 2: with his case.
Speaker 3: So just as we close out this special episode of
Speaker 3: kurtin the podcast where for the first time our listeners
Speaker 3: have been able to hear that Kevin Henry is no
Speaker 3: longer behind bars, that the journey you commenced with us
Speaker 3: when we started the investigation to see what the evidence
Speaker 3: was in this case and what really happened, that now
Speaker 3: we've come full circle and that what was once a
Speaker 3: podcast about a man inside prison for a crime he
Speaker 3: did not commit, is now about a man who sits
Speaker 3: inside his own home for the first time in three
Speaker 3: decades and helps us work to clear his own name.
Speaker 3: I want to pay particular thanks to those who have
Speaker 3: supported us on Patreon, and if you'd like to do
Speaker 3: that as well, the link is on our website, and
Speaker 3: that small amount of money that through makes a huge difference,
Speaker 3: because this is a very expensive process. As I say,
Speaker 3: will be revealing a lot more of what has happened
Speaker 3: in the last six months to a year's stuff. We
Speaker 3: haven't been able to talk about the exciting twists and turns,
Speaker 3: the highs and lows that we've ridden just to get
Speaker 3: to this particular moment. As you'll hear, some of it
Speaker 3: really is like it's straight out of a movie. And
Speaker 3: we will continue to work. This is more than just
Speaker 3: a podcast about one human being. This is about an
Speaker 3: entire system that we all know is broken. Everyone who's
Speaker 3: listened and contributed on our Facebook page with their own
Speaker 3: stories of family members beaten in prison, wrongly convicted, beaten
Speaker 3: by police, deaths in custody, these are the things that
Speaker 3: we have to change. And we always said when we
Speaker 3: started this podcast. First we have to get one right,
Speaker 3: Kevin Henry has to walk out and breathe fresh air
Speaker 3: for the first time in decades. We've reached that moment,
Speaker 3: and from here we want to build a platform where,
Speaker 3: with your help, we change this whole system that caused
Speaker 3: these disgusting and despicable suffering for so many and has
Speaker 3: done for so long. So we hope you'll join us
Speaker 3: on the ride. Like I say, there's more to come.
Speaker 3: There are a lot more cases we're going to be
Speaker 3: talking about. There are a lot more issues we need
Speaker 3: to expose and we need to talk about and we
Speaker 3: need to bring change. But we've really shown as a podcast,
Speaker 3: with the strength of Kevin, his family, the people of
Speaker 3: Wuabinda and Rockhampton, and with all of you our listeners
Speaker 3: right around the world from over one hundred countries, that
Speaker 3: just this small little team that we've put together, that
Speaker 3: we can make a huge difference and do things that
Speaker 3: haven't been done before. So I hope you'll support us
Speaker 3: and stay with us. Chat to us on Twitter at
Speaker 3: Curtin the Podcast, the same on Facebook at our website
Speaker 3: curtinthepodcast dot com, and be part of this process. There's
Speaker 3: no point simply looking at what's going on and not
Speaker 3: doing something about it. Lives can be changed, but it
Speaker 3: is up to you to listen, to share this information,
Speaker 3: to support us if you can, and to support all
Speaker 3: those people right around this country who are in prison
Speaker 3: and their families who are all doing it incredibly tough
Speaker 3: and have done for decades and decades. That was episode
Speaker 3: sixty seven of Curtain the Podcast.