Speaker 1: You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leono.
Speaker 2: People are delusional, so is it any surprise that the
Speaker 2: world is filled with fights, disputes and petty grievances. When
Speaker 2: you've had enough and Nita Rowse settled once and for all,
Speaker 2: you come to my courtroom. I am Judge Gina, and
Speaker 2: my decision is final.
Speaker 3: They say it's best to catch flights, not feelings, but
Speaker 3: the two dating show alarm in Judge Gina's courtroom today
Speaker 3: seem unable to do either. Michael Brunelli has brought Josh
Speaker 3: Moss to Judge Gina after he made a series of
Speaker 3: careless mistakes on travel bookings. Michael is seeking a public
Speaker 3: apology from Josh as compensation.
Speaker 4: My name is Michael Brenelli and I am a co
Speaker 4: host on The Bags podcast. I have come to Judge
Speaker 4: Gina today to settle a beef with my podcast co host,
Speaker 4: Josh Moss, who is blaming me for a mistake that
Speaker 4: he made with flights.
Speaker 5: My name is Josh Moss.
Speaker 6: I've come to Judge Gina today to solve a deep
Speaker 6: rooted problem in me and Michael's relationship.
Speaker 4: Josh and I have known each other for around two years.
Speaker 4: We are quite good friends, but we do have disagreements
Speaker 4: at times.
Speaker 6: I want to fare an even trial and all the
Speaker 6: relevant information presented, and I want a totally non biased verdict.
Speaker 4: What I want out of today is the truth. I
Speaker 4: want Judge Gina to prove to Josh that I am
Speaker 4: right in this situation that he needs to take responsibility
Speaker 4: for his mistake.
Speaker 3: Court is now in session. Please rise the Judge Gina.
Speaker 2: Michael Brunelli, why are you in my courtroom today?
Speaker 4: My beef is with Josh Moss, my podcast co host,
Speaker 4: and it's got to do with a flight from Sydney
Speaker 4: to Melbourne. He booked a flight to Avalon Airport when
Speaker 4: he was meant to be going to Tullmarine. And as
Speaker 4: you know, there are two airports in Melbourne. Avalon is
Speaker 4: out near Geelong. I'm near the city where marine. Yes,
Speaker 4: I told him that I was going to pick him
Speaker 4: up from the airport. When I texted him and I
Speaker 4: said where are you, I'm on my way. He said,
Speaker 4: I'm an Avalon airport.
Speaker 2: So you went to Avalon.
Speaker 4: I did not go to Avalon. I made the executive
Speaker 4: decision that that would be too far from me to
Speaker 4: go Okay.
Speaker 2: So he told you he was at Avalon Airport and
Speaker 2: you decided not to go.
Speaker 4: So he is blaming me for his mistaken airport arrival.
Speaker 2: Okay, and what does that equate to? How can I
Speaker 2: help you?
Speaker 4: I would like you to show him to open his
Speaker 4: eyes to see that he is at fault here. He's
Speaker 4: an adult, he booked his own flight. He should have
Speaker 4: known which airport he was going to and where it
Speaker 4: was located.
Speaker 2: But he did tell you he was at Avalon. So
Speaker 2: what's the issue?
Speaker 4: My issue is that I'm getting blamed.
Speaker 2: Okay, And what do you want me to do?
Speaker 4: What I would like is a public apology from Josh
Speaker 4: Moss posted on our Handbags Instagram page, our podcast page.
Speaker 4: And I would also, just as a kicker, as a
Speaker 4: little bit of a lesson here, I would like him
Speaker 4: to post one of his photo shoot photos that he
Speaker 4: took a few years ago, which are quite provocative. Personally,
Speaker 4: I think he looks amazing in them, but he doesn't
Speaker 4: feel the same, and I'd like him to post that.
Speaker 2: Okay. So does the public know what he's apologizing about
Speaker 2: or do we have to tell the public the whole story?
Speaker 2: And then there's an apology. That makes sense because otherwise
Speaker 2: you're going in mid sentence telling the audience something that
Speaker 2: they don't know about.
Speaker 4: Depends how you define public.
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you define public?
Speaker 4: I define our public as the people that know us
Speaker 4: and our social media following.
Speaker 2: Raise see you on your podcast? Okay? And if you
Speaker 2: had a vote from your viewers or anything like that,
Speaker 2: we have and what do they say?
Speaker 4: The vote was titled whose fault is it? And the
Speaker 4: vote came out seventy percent Josh and thirty percent Michael.
Speaker 2: This is out of how many people who? How many
Speaker 2: people were polled?
Speaker 4: I can find that out for you.
Speaker 2: Well, you need to know is it more than three?
Speaker 4: It is more than three? I don't have the exact numb.
Speaker 2: So you want an apology on handbags and your Instagram page,
Speaker 2: and you also want you want Josh to post a
Speaker 2: photo from a photo shoot from when.
Speaker 4: From I'd say four or five years ago on.
Speaker 2: Your Instagram page? Which one. I'm sure there's been photos,
Speaker 2: many photos from four or five years ago, and multiple photo.
Speaker 4: Shoots that he does, like a photo shoot the one
Speaker 4: I'm talking about in particular, and Josh would know this,
Speaker 4: but I'll explain to you is a photo shoot that
Speaker 4: he took in his underwear. Personally, I think the amazing
Speaker 4: photos and he hasn't allowed me to post them before.
Speaker 2: Right, and you want the permission to do that, correct,
Speaker 2: as part of your compensation.
Speaker 4: For him blaming me for him catching an.
Speaker 2: Uber from Avalon because you wouldn't travel there because you
Speaker 2: live closer to Tullamarine.
Speaker 4: Because I wasn't able to travel there within my schedule.
Speaker 5: Oh it's changed now, No.
Speaker 4: It's okay.
Speaker 2: So I want to hear from you NW Josh go on.
Speaker 6: So when I organized to come down to Melbourne, your honor,
Speaker 6: I hadn't been to Melbourne in years, so long this happened.
Speaker 6: This has happened about seven months ago, thisent. I hadn't
Speaker 6: been to Melbourne about fifteen years before that. Okay, So
Speaker 6: I'm a Sydney boy through and through. I organized to
Speaker 6: come down to Melbourne out of the goodwill of my
Speaker 6: heart to record an episode. Michael didn't come to Sydney.
Speaker 6: I came down to Melbourne to help out.
Speaker 2: And where do you normally record?
Speaker 6: We were recording at Sydney at the time, and then
Speaker 6: Michael picked up and moved to Melbourne, and so you
Speaker 6: were living in Sydney.
Speaker 4: I was living in Sydney at the time we started
Speaker 4: the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yet, okay, and where do you called the podcast? Now?
Speaker 4: We either record Melbourne Sydney depending on where one of
Speaker 4: us are or remotely.
Speaker 2: Okay, so one of you can be in Sydney, one
Speaker 2: can be in Melbourne. Okay, So go on.
Speaker 6: And I booked a flight down to Melbourne, and I
Speaker 6: saw that there was one that was slightly cheaper.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, times are taf your honor, And.
Speaker 6: It was a flight that was about eighty bucks cheaper,
Speaker 6: and I decided to book it because I wanted to
Speaker 6: book something and I had to get down cheaper than
Speaker 6: what let's say that it was about eighteen.
Speaker 2: Not quantity cheaper. So you're saying there were two options
Speaker 2: to fly in, one into Tellermarine, one into Avalon. Yes,
Speaker 2: and the one into Avalon was eighty dollars cheaper, and
Speaker 2: you understood that one was a different suburb to the other.
Speaker 5: No, I thought it was different like wings of the
Speaker 5: airport or something.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, yeah, yeah, I thought it was a bit daft,
Speaker 2: wasn't it.
Speaker 6: But go on, Oh, but like who has two airports
Speaker 6: in this like so close proximity. Sydney only has one airport,
Speaker 6: so booked the flight. Michael had agreed to pick me
Speaker 6: up and landed from.
Speaker 5: Just from the airport. No which airport though, well, he
Speaker 5: didn't specify whatever you needed.
Speaker 2: To specify, Well, not him, because you're the one flying in.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: So if I say I'm going to dinner Darling, can
Speaker 2: you pick me up? And he thinks Darling is a
Speaker 2: restaurant and I'm not at Darling, then it's my fault, really,
Speaker 2: isn't it, Because I should have said where?
Speaker 5: But what if you did?
Speaker 2: You say where?
Speaker 5: I said I was going to Melbourne, getting the flight
Speaker 5: down to Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Melbourne, okay, but there is you know, Avalon's in Geelong.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that at the time.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you certainly knew when you landed because you
Speaker 2: were not in Melbourne.
Speaker 5: No, when I landed.
Speaker 6: It all looks the same, okay, go on, because as
Speaker 6: I said, I hadn't been in Melbourne since I was.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you rang him from where the airport or
Speaker 2: you told him before you left.
Speaker 6: When the plane landed, I thought I'd give him a
Speaker 6: lot of notice and I said, hey mate, I'm landing.
Speaker 6: I'll probably be twenty minutes until I get out of
Speaker 6: the airport. Can you please pick me up? And he said, yep,
Speaker 6: I'll come now. He goes, whereabouts A you gu I've
Speaker 6: just landed in Avalon?
Speaker 5: Okay, so you told him Avalon there? I told him
Speaker 5: Avalon then and he said what he said? You're fing
Speaker 5: kidding me. You did not land in Avalon. You're an
Speaker 5: absolute idiot. That's not where you should be landing.
Speaker 2: Okay, and what did you say?
Speaker 6: I was offended at first, and then I said, Michael,
Speaker 6: can you pick me up? I may have you know,
Speaker 6: I'm an Avalon. I don't know what that means, but
Speaker 6: I'm here. And then he said I'm not picking you
Speaker 6: up and I said why and he goes, because you've
Speaker 6: gone to the wrong airport.
Speaker 5: I'm too busy to pick you up. You can get
Speaker 5: your own way there.
Speaker 6: Keeping in mind, the uber was about one hundred and
Speaker 6: eighty dollars, was it? So the eighty dollars I saved
Speaker 6: on the flight, I could have flown business class.
Speaker 2: So it cost you one hundred and eighty dollars in
Speaker 2: an uber? Yes, okay, what are you after?
Speaker 6: I want Michael to post on the Handbags page yep,
Speaker 6: that he apologizes forever doubting my intelligence and that he
Speaker 6: openly admits that I'm the smarter handbag, and then he
Speaker 6: says that's not up for debate anymore.
Speaker 2: What's not up for debate now?
Speaker 5: Who's smarter?
Speaker 2: Well that's almost self explanatory, isn't it. If someone's trying
Speaker 2: to get an admission like that, that automatically confirms who
Speaker 2: the daft one is, doesn't it. I would think if
Speaker 2: I'm chasing someone to validate how smart I was, that
Speaker 2: I would be the daft one.
Speaker 5: Intelligence is in the eye of the beholder.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: I thought that was beauty?
Speaker 5: Well, I can.
Speaker 2: I like to intelligence is in the eye of the IQ,
Speaker 2: I'd say, so, I want to know what you're claiming.
Speaker 2: So you just want Michael to post apology for ever
Speaker 2: doubting and admitting you're smarter?
Speaker 5: Yes, and and I want Michael to post I want
Speaker 5: Michael to Is that your compensation, Michael? I want Michael
Speaker 5: to get me a massage.
Speaker 2: Voutcher, a massage voucher to value.
Speaker 5: Eighty dollars because I was very stressed in this situation.
Speaker 5: I feel like a massage would calm me down.
Speaker 2: Message voucher for eighty dollars and you one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty dollars for the uber. Are you claiming that?
Speaker 5: No, I won't claim that.
Speaker 4: Okay, may I say something?
Speaker 2: Yes, you can go on.
Speaker 4: So I've got more evidence, just I wanted to show
Speaker 4: you this is not a one off sort evidence or
Speaker 4: more of a story. I've got a story with evidence.
Speaker 2: Okay, go along with it, all right, I'm listening.
Speaker 4: So after we recorded the podcast on Friday, the fifth
Speaker 4: of August, Okay, Josh was at my house. He was
Speaker 4: getting in an uber too Avalon Airport to fly back
Speaker 4: to Sydney. I received a text from Josh aroundabouts an
Speaker 4: hour later saying I've gone to the wrong airport.
Speaker 2: Being where did you go?
Speaker 4: Avalon?
Speaker 2: But you just told me he had to return flight
Speaker 2: to Avalon. So so he went to Avalon. Oh he
Speaker 2: made a mistake.
Speaker 4: The second mistake, yes, okay, So he was actually leaving
Speaker 4: from Tullamarine.
Speaker 2: So you flew into Avalon and you were departing via
Speaker 2: Tallomarine to Sydney, but you thought you had to go
Speaker 2: back to Avalon. I think that's a valid mistake. Most
Speaker 2: people think they're flying in and out of the same place.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I think if you've made an error on your I
Speaker 4: need you to think, my person, that's my job today
Speaker 4: is to think that you should check your return flight
Speaker 4: if you've made a mistake on the inbound flight.
Speaker 2: Just he didn't make a mistake.
Speaker 4: He did he flew to the wrong airport.
Speaker 2: No, he didn't. He flew to Avalon. It was a
Speaker 2: wrong airport for you, okay. So and then he fixed
Speaker 2: the problem by catching an uber and you let him
Speaker 2: do that, okay. So, Josh, you've gone back to Avalon, yeh,
Speaker 2: thinking you're flying back? And how did you get to Avalon?
Speaker 5: I got another uber?
Speaker 2: Okay, so another one hundred and eighty dollars? Yeah, the
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty dollars? Yeah, okay. And so then
Speaker 2: you were meant to be at Tallamarine. How did you
Speaker 2: get from Avalon to Tallomarine?
Speaker 5: I had to get another uber? How much was that
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty dollars?
Speaker 2: So it's another one hundred and eighty three sixty plus
Speaker 2: one eighty? Who's got quick math? Five forty? But you
Speaker 2: don't want to claim that, h okay? That one so
Speaker 2: five point forty and not that he would necessarily be
Speaker 2: responsible or liable for your stupidity, if that's what you
Speaker 2: would call it, And I probably couldn't think of a
Speaker 2: better word than stupidity, your mistake, I should say so.
Speaker 4: The following day, yes, Josh was scheduled to fly out
Speaker 4: to Spain for work. Yeah from Sydney, and I received
Speaker 4: a text message saying, dude, I didn't even tell you
Speaker 4: I missed my flight to Spain. He said, I had
Speaker 4: a few too many drinks at Sydney Airport.
Speaker 2: So why is this relevant?
Speaker 4: Just to show you with Josh in flying that he's
Speaker 4: the smarter one, Mistakes that are made.
Speaker 2: So he's saying that you're not the smarter one, and
Speaker 2: that he can't admit that you're the smarter one because
Speaker 2: he's actually got evidence that you certainly not.
Speaker 5: But he doesn't know about the situation in Sydney Airport.
Speaker 2: What was that?
Speaker 6: So Sydney Airport's become a quiet airport after COVID quite Yeah,
Speaker 6: they don't do announcements anymore. The safety blanket of them
Speaker 6: calling your name out, which I've always had, has it's changed.
Speaker 2: So you rely on the call.
Speaker 5: Well, it's there as a safety blanket.
Speaker 2: You're at Sydney airport. You've had a few too many drinks.
Speaker 2: What did you fall asleep?
Speaker 5: No? No, no, oh, you.
Speaker 2: Just didn't check the time you were hoping, they would say,
Speaker 2: mister moss Gate forty five.
Speaker 5: Yes, I thought that was always a last resort safety k.
Speaker 2: And is it something you would normally rely on?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so this is wearing thinner and thinner, this
Speaker 2: little post apology post. Okay, so you want a public
Speaker 2: apology from him on handbags.
Speaker 4: Because he was blaming me for to blame flying into Avalon.
Speaker 2: Why are you blaming him for flying into Avalon?
Speaker 6: Well, if I was in Michael's shoes and I knew
Speaker 6: that someone hadn't been to Melbourne for a long time,
Speaker 6: I would just say friendly reminder, you know, makes you
Speaker 6: go to right airport? Like if if me and you
Speaker 6: were at the beach Gina, I would say friendly reminder sunscreen,
Speaker 6: We've got to protect ourselves from the sun.
Speaker 5: Like just a gentle reminder.
Speaker 2: No, sorry, were you flying to Melbourne or Geelong? That's
Speaker 2: the question, all right, So Michael, you wanted a public
Speaker 2: apology on handbags for Josh blaming you for flying into Avalon. Correct,
Speaker 2: And you've you've run the polls. Seventy percent think Josh
Speaker 2: is to blame. What do you think about that? Do
Speaker 2: you think that's fair enough?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Tell me why I need to be persuaded, because I'm not.
Speaker 5: How do we know the quality of the thinking of
Speaker 5: the vote?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: I want to know what do you think if seventy
Speaker 2: percent believe you are to blame for your own error?
Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?
Speaker 5: No? I believe if I can.
Speaker 2: You don't think you're responsible for your own error?
Speaker 5: No? No, I don't. Okay, I'm really standing by that.
Speaker 2: Okay, And what about you, Michael?
Speaker 4: I feel Josh is responsible for his own error, much
Speaker 4: like the eleven hundred people that's voted in.
Speaker 2: Eleven hundred people.
Speaker 4: Yes, as you can see by the evidence on Instagram. Legitimate.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not sure I'm buying that one. All Right,
Speaker 2: I've heard enough. I'm just going to take a moment
Speaker 2: to deliberate, and I will come back with my decision.
Speaker 3: Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Speaker 3: Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2: So, Michael, your claim today is that you would like
Speaker 2: a pubublic apology on handbags your podcast for Josh blaming
Speaker 2: you for flying into Avalon Airport. And you'd also like
Speaker 2: him to post a shot from a photo shoot from
Speaker 2: about four or five years ago where he's in his
Speaker 2: underwear on the Instagram page for your Handbag podcast. Now, Josh,
Speaker 2: what you would like to happen today is you're not
Speaker 2: claiming any money or the compensation for any of you ubers.
Speaker 2: But what you would like is for Michael to post
Speaker 2: an apology for ever doubting your intelligence, and you would
Speaker 2: like him to admit that you are the smarter out
Speaker 2: of the two of you. And you'd also like a
Speaker 2: massart voucher for eighty dollars. So Josh, all right, So
Speaker 2: my decision is that Josh, you will need to make
Speaker 2: a public apology on Handbags for blaming Michael for flying
Speaker 2: into Avalon. In terms of posting a photo from a
Speaker 2: photo shoot four or five years ago, I say that
Speaker 2: that is entirely irrelevant and does not amount to any
Speaker 2: form of compensation or retribution. So that's denied.
Speaker 6: I'm feeling a little bit disappointed about today's outcome. I
Speaker 6: feel like there was a little bit of magic dust
Speaker 6: sprayed by Michael on Gina, and I'm bitterly disappointed.
Speaker 4: I feel great about today's outcome. I feel like the
Speaker 4: truth is out there. Gina was on my side, and
Speaker 4: Josh can finally admit that he was at fault in
Speaker 4: this situation.
Speaker 5: I don't think that I got a fair trial.
Speaker 6: I think that Michael has incorporated some sort of hypnotism
Speaker 6: or some sort of word trickery to get Gina to
Speaker 6: come on his side.
Speaker 4: I was concerned at the start of the trial. I
Speaker 4: felt like I was being grilled, but towards the end
Speaker 4: I could see Judge Gina. She was starting to come
Speaker 4: around understand where I was coming from, and I feel
Speaker 4: she made the right decision in the end. Although I
Speaker 4: would have really liked to post a photo shoot of Josh.
Speaker 6: I don't think that our disagreement has been settled once
Speaker 6: and for all. I feel like we may need a
Speaker 6: retrial and get some new information brought up.
Speaker 4: I don't think this will have a large effect on
Speaker 4: my relationship with Josh. He's been wrong many times before
Speaker 4: and he's been able to own up to it. It's
Speaker 4: just another one of those situations where he has to
Speaker 4: get rid of that ego and understand that he did
Speaker 4: make the wrong decision and he has to be responsible
Speaker 4: for that. We'll go on as being friends.
Speaker 6: This will definitely affect my relationship with Michael. I just
Speaker 6: don't know if I can trust him anymore. I don't
Speaker 6: know where we go to from here, and there's going
Speaker 6: to be a lot of sleepless nights.
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