1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: forced to change wedding plans after invite leek as she 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: buying shuts do in an active where brand, a mid 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: health battle, Brit Hockley's epic engagement, and the pr push 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: for Mitch Orvil's Tiny Trucks. But first, the weight is over. 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has finally revealed the gender of her baby. 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: After keeping followers on the edge of their seats for 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: four weeks. Prior to breaking the news, Sarah's comments section 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: was inundated by impatient followers urging her to share the 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: news amy this week. One follower's question was the last 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: straw for Sarah? Yeah So. Under one of Sarah's recent posts, 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: a follower excitedly asked when is the gender reveal? I 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: cannot wait, to which Sarah responded, I answered this in 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: depth two days ago. Kurt has basically been away an Mia, 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: so I am raising two children alone. I have them 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: basically every single day and have no time to even 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: film an outro. It will be uploaded when I have time. 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: I want to add there were no smiley face emojis, 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: no emojis to speak of her. I was very taken 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: aback by this response, as you could tell that this 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: follower was just genuinely excited and they weren't asking out 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: of malice at all. I was also surprised that she 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: threw so much shade at Kurt because she is basically 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: saying Kurt has left his pregnant wife alone to raise 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: two kids. I wonder if they had just had an 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: argument or something, and that's you know, she responded mid 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: argument because it was a bit harsh. It's confusing because 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: in her vlog she was singing Kurt's praises and saying 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: just how hard he had been working. Apparently he had 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: shoots from seven am to nine pm, so it's not 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: like he's off on some boys trip. I mean, I 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: don't know if she was so much singing his praises. 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I felt like she did have a bit of a 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: dig at the end of that video because she complained 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: that he wasn't even a to film the outro because 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: he is so busy. There are quite a few reasons 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: why there has been so much anticipation about this gender reveal, 40 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: and the first is because Sarah has confirmed it will 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: be her last pregnancy and it is her last opportunity 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: to potentially get a girl. And before she was pregnant, 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: she did make a very click baity YouTube thumbnail saying 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: my boys want a sister, and it made it quite 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: clear that she and the rest of her family were 46 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: very excited for a girl. Well, she'd also been sharing 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: clips of Fox praying for a baby sister. Yeah, so 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: there was a lot of anticipation from the general public 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: to see if this was going to be a girl. 50 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: And I think the second reason there is so much 51 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: anticipation is because in a log four weeks ago, she 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: told her audience that they had already filmed the gender 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: reveal and it would be out very shortly. So this 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: got her followers ultra excited about this video. So a 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: lot of people were questioning was she holding off from 56 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: releasing this video in a bid to generate more excitement, 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: more anticipation, more views, because at the time of recording, 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: her gender of ill video is sitting on over four 59 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: hundred thousand views, which is quite a large amount of 60 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: views for her currently. I think a lot of people 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: also assumed that maybe she had got the news that 62 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: she was having a boy because she wasn't quick to 63 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: put out the video, because perhaps she was disappointed because, 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: as we said, there has been a lot of content 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: around wanting a baby sister for Fox and Malachi. Now, 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the highly anticipated gender of ill video did come out 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: on Thursday, with Sarah revealing that they found out the 68 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: gender of the baby on the sixteenth of April, so 69 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: two months ago, and their doctor did call with their 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: NITP test results, and Sarah said that she cried with 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: relief when she found out that she was having a 72 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: healthy baby. It would have been a really stressful wait 73 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: for them because during Sarah's last pregnancy with Malachi, they 74 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: did have abnormal test results show up on his NITP tests. Yeah, 75 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: it would have been such a relief for them. The 76 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: doctor explained on the phone to Sarah that she had 77 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: sent through an email of the test results which also 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: contained the gender, and initially Sarah and Kurt said that 79 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: they were going to sit on it for a week 80 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: and I think they were going to film one of 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: those I keep seeing them around the place at the moment, 82 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: a gender reveal which is filmed on the beach and 83 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: they've got a cake, and I think it was going 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: to be very esthetically pleasing, but both of them said 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: that they could not wait any longer. So maybe that's 86 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: why she's been so pissed off at Kurt though, because 87 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I think she wants all of those special, very instagram 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 1: worthy videos like they used to film when Kurt didn't 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: have so much work on. So maybe that's where were 90 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: the passive aggressive comments coming from. And I think also 91 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: because she knows that this is her last pregnancy. She 92 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: did say that she wants to do it right and 93 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: she wants to really enjoy those moments. They did end 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: up getting Sarah's girlfriends in on the act, because Sarah 95 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: forwarded her friends the test results and they all got 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: together to make her a gender reveal cake. I don't 97 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: know how i'd feel about my friends knowing before me. 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: I noticed she kept referencing that she was sending her 99 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: boys and Kurt over with cake mix and also food die, 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: and I think she was pushing that point because she 101 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to get criticized for making her friends foot 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: the bill of the cake. I could tell in this 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: vlog she was very mindful of how she was coming across. 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: I did think it was funny because she said that 105 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: she couldn't see her friend's faces because she would instantly 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: know the gender of the baby, so she made them 107 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: leave the cake at the door. Was it just me 108 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: or did you think that maybe she had seen the 109 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: results before she had sent them to her friends, because 110 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: there was this part of her video where she was 111 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: talking to Kurt and saying, oh, because I forwarded it, 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the PDF document came up on my screen and I 113 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: blurred my eyes, so I couldn't actually see the gender. 114 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think she did see the gender. 115 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: I think she really wanted to wait and have that 116 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: moment on camera with Kurk. Yeah, but was she potentially 117 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: preparing herself for the disappointment of having a third boy? Yeah, 118 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean you do have a point there. I mean, 119 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: before they actually revealed the gender, she did also say 120 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: on camera that she genuinely thinks it's a boy, and 121 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: she already feels like she knows her third son. But 122 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: I was wondering if that was her trying to look 123 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that she was a bothered. Well, no, 124 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if wu wu was the right word, like, oh, 125 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: I've predicted this because all along, she says, I've always 126 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: thought I'm going to have three boys. But she did 127 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: point out that statistically, her doctors told her that if 128 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: you already have two of the same gender, you're seventy 129 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: to eighty percent more likely to give birth to that 130 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: same gender. Again, she also spoke about how that if 131 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: she doesn't have a girl, she will mourn and also 132 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: have a sense of sadness that she'll never have a daughter, 133 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: but she wanted to point out that it doesn't mean 134 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: that she's sad about having another boy. And I actually 135 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: think that she was quite tactful in the way that 136 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: she spoke about it. Yeah, because she has been criticized 137 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: in the past for not being very tactful, especially when 138 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: she's talking about baby related issues, and I actually hats 139 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: off to her she think she did a good job. 140 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: Or Yeah, because she also spoke about how she was 141 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: quite impacted by a couple of her friends who were 142 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: struggling with fertility at the moment, And I think that 143 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: you could tell that she was really relieved to find 144 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: out that her baby was healthy. I found it amusing 145 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: because you could tell Sarah was trying to tiptoe around 146 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: the fact that she really wanted a girl. But Kurt 147 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: was just that, yeah, I want a girl. 148 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 149 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: There, Sarah is literally doing gymnastics to sort of jump 150 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: around the fact that she wants a girl and be 151 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: tactful and say all of the right things. But Kurt 152 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: was pretty honest about it. Is it wrong to want 153 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: a gender though as specific gender? I don't think it is. 154 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: I think we've spoken in the past about gender disappointment 155 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: and how it's okay, especially when you've always thought you're 156 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: going to have a particular gender. I mean even with 157 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Kate when we found out she was having a boy, 158 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I was really excited, but for some reason, I had 159 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: in my mind that we were going to have a 160 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: little girl in the family. It's hard when you have 161 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: imagined something. I feel like we're dragging out this gender 162 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: reveal at this point. Let's get into it. Because the 163 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: gender reveal cake, it was a homemade number by her friends. 164 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: It was this white, long log looking cake with blue 165 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: pink sprinkles on top. I felt like the homemade vibe 166 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: of it was very on brand for Sarah because it 167 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: looked wholesome. It didn't look like she was trying to 168 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: be too garish and over the top, which influencers can 169 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: be criticized for. I really liked it. Yeah. I was 170 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: shocked that it was a homemade cake because I saw 171 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: the little thumbnail on YouTube and I assume they'd bought it. Well. 172 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: At this stage when the cake was dropped off, it 173 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: was nine forty, so her sons had been put to 174 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: bed and Kurt and Sarah were finding out this information 175 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: on their own. And when I first watched it, I thought, well, 176 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 1: that's a good move in case there is some disappointment 177 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: from the boys over what it is. Now, we have 178 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: been dragging this out for long enough. I think it's 179 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: quite obvious what it is. Let's throw to the clip 180 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: of when they found out they were having a boy. 181 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: So I got nothing odd. Boy, It's like one bit 182 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: in the middle. You can see it there. I knew it. 183 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: I've called this since I was seven, but I still 184 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: can't believe it. 185 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, I am a boy mom. 186 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: You can really see it written all over their faces, 187 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: the disappointment. It's like when Ralph Wigham gets his heart 188 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: broken by Lisa Simpson, and you can pinpoint the moment 189 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: of the disappointment coming through. This is what I don't 190 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: like about gender reveals because it is literally written all 191 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: over the parents' faces of how they're feeling, and it's 192 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: just that element of surprise that's always awkward on camera. 193 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: It is really awkward. What was more awkward, though, was 194 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: when they revealed to the boys what the gender was yeah, 195 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: because questions quickly turned to how they were going to 196 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: tell their sons this news. As straightaway as Kurt found 197 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: out that it was a boy, he was like, how 198 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: are we going to tell the boys? And he said, 199 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: maybe we can just give them a piece of this 200 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: blue cake, and Sarah's like, no, no, no, Let's get 201 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: a balloon and do one of those exciting announcements. But 202 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: that's unfortunately not really going to work with a kid 203 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: if it's the news that they don't want. Yes, And 204 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: it was disappointing news, especially to Fox, who burst into 205 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: tears when the blue confetti came out of all well, 206 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean, in true vlogga style. Of course, they filmed 207 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: the boy's reaction for this vlog, and it was very 208 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to see poor Fox burst into tears and Sarah 209 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: was crying too. He was sobbing in her arms, and 210 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: she said that she was crying because she just felt 211 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: sad because she could feel his disappointment. Let's throw to 212 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: what Sarah said about that moment. 213 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: So the next night, we wanted to surprise the boys, 214 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: and honestly, it was a pretty emotional experience. Fox was 215 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 3: really looking forward to having a sister. He has been 216 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: pretty honest from day one that he wants a sister. 217 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 3: For the past few weeks, we've just been navigating these 218 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: emotions and this conversation. Although Fox was shocked and kind 219 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: of disappointed in the moment, he's definitely come around in 220 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: the last six weeks, where we've just explained the dynamic 221 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: of a boy household and having another brother. So he's 222 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: super excited to meet his brother. But this was just 223 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: an honest experience of him finding out because sometimes it's 224 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: not as we imagined. 225 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: I get that social media shouldn't always be a highlight reel, 226 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: because that is definitely not the case when it comes 227 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: to all gender reveals. I think that there is a 228 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: level of gender disappointment that plays out across all households. 229 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: But where I feel uncomfortable is the fact that this 230 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: has been filmed and played to a large audience. Because 231 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: this little boy is going to watch this video one 232 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: day and always remember that his brother was disappointed that 233 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't a girl. And I have spoken to so 234 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: many people growing up who still hold on to the 235 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: fact that their parents are disappointed that they were a 236 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: particular gender. The only thing I disagree with is that 237 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: I actually like that Sarah honestly shared the disappointment from 238 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: the family, because, as you said before, it is a 239 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: really common thing, and I think it sort of normalizes 240 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: that people talking about it, because before I think people 241 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: felt shameful for thinking, oh, well, I wanted a boy 242 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: and I got a girl, and you know, especially because 243 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: there's so much talk around being grateful for having a 244 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: healthy baby. He was quite funny because Sarah did check 245 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: in with Fox four weeks later to report how he 246 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: was traveling with this disappointment. But I think it made 247 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: things more awkward. Here's what he said, how do you. 248 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 5: Feel now pretty good? That what are we praying for? 249 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 6: No? 250 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 5: Praying for just a healthy baby? 251 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: That is just such a realistic portrayal of children. Though 252 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: they're just not saying the right thing. I actually quite 253 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: enjoyed that in there. Fox and Malachi did also provide 254 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: some baby name suggestions. Which probably aren't that far fetch 255 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: considering their own name. So Fox suggested that the baby 256 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: be called storm I could say that, And Malachi suggested 257 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: Hoggy Moggy in socks. I mean he does get known 258 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: as what is it like, Millie and yeah, So I 259 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: mean that's not far off. Hoggy Moggie and socks. Malachi 260 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: and Fox, Oh my god, that rhymes. Yeah, you've heard 261 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: it here. First potential name joining us up with Moore 262 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: is Mitch Orwell, co founder of Tiny Trucks Tribe, which 263 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: makes machines just like this. Mitch Orbell has been lighting 264 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: up TV screens around the nation in his latest pr 265 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: push for his new e commerce business, Tiny Truck Tribe. 266 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: The latest promotion for his electronic kids Forklift, comes off 267 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: the back of mounting criticism over the e commerce business. 268 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: Yeah influencer watchdog account Ozsie influencer Opinions is not happy. 269 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: They called Mitch out for being allegedly deceptive in positioning 270 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: himself as the founder of the business, when in reality 271 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: it appears that there are multiple other businesses which sell 272 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: the exact same product he is selling, but for almost 273 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: two hundred dollars cheaper. Now this week, Mitch appeared in 274 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: a nine news Gold Coast story promoting his five hundred 275 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: and seventy five dollars Kids forklift. Mitch and Sonarti also 276 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: featured in the story showing off how the forklift were 277 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: Let's throw to the story. 278 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 5: Keep your ears to the ground and your eyes peeled. 279 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: The Tiny Trucks Tribe is on the mood, a toy 280 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 5: four cliff founded by Gold Coast mates Mitch Orbell and 281 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 5: Hayden Lohan, designed to get kids outdoors. 282 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 7: This new generations of kids stuck behind iPads and in 283 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 7: front of TV screens, and you know there are future 284 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 7: builders of the world. 285 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: The all electric vehicle is rechargeable and comes with the 286 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: seat belt, lights and even a harn. Whilst it is 287 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: a toy, it is fully operational with the lifting capacity 288 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 4: of ten kilos, which is equivalent to two toy boxes 289 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: or three planks of wood. 290 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 5: It has the durability and safety tick. 291 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: So we've done all due diligence necessary. We know that 292 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 7: when you're working with kids, there's lots of hurdles and 293 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 7: things that you've got to take care of. 294 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: A skill test for parents and grandparents too, who'll need 295 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: to assemble. 296 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 7: It also comes with a remote control too, so if 297 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 7: your kid is a bit younger and can't control it 298 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 7: themselves as a parent, you can use. 299 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: That retailing for around six hundred dollars. 300 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: Works are now in the pipeline for a full fleet 301 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: of construction vehicles. You can head to Tiny Truck Tribes website. 302 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: This is an absolute disgrace. I mean, I'm sorry, this 303 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: was a complete ad for this product. I want to 304 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: know who does Mitch know at nine news Gold Coast, Well, 305 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: who's his publicist? Because I mean, we have a PR company. 306 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: It's really hard to get stories on the news, particularly 307 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: a story where you're literally just trying to sell a product. 308 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Hats off if he does have a PR team, because, 309 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: as you said, the fact that there really was no 310 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: angle or hook to get any interest in the middle, Like, 311 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: how how was that even a story in terms of 312 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: them referencing the website like you never ever as a 313 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: journalist like it came across as an advatarial he head 314 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: to the website to find out more about this product? Yes, sorry, 315 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: what I mean. Also from a journalistic perspective, there were 316 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: no stats. So okay, let's think about it. Okay, here's 317 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: a start showing that eighty percent of kids are spending 318 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: time on their iPads, and there's you know, the government 319 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: is trying to urge kids to get outside. There was 320 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: nothing like that. It was I actually just can't even 321 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: believe that this story went to air. But as you said, 322 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: it does make me think, who is Mitch Orvil friends 323 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: with the works at Gold Coast nine years because years 324 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: ago when he sold his house, there was this bizarre 325 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: news story where they did a whole story about his 326 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: house selling, and they went through it and they did 327 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: a piece to camera in his mooe room. But in 328 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: that story they actually acknowledged that he was an influencer 329 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: and had some level of celebrity. But in this story 330 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: they didn't even reference that he's an influencer. It's just 331 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: like local guy sells a fucking truck. Well, the only 332 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: small hook, if you can even call it, that is 333 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: the focus on them being from the Gold Coast and 334 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: some vague reference, as you said, to minimizing the kid's 335 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: screen time. But they also reference them as founders, which 336 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: has been disputed because, as Ossie Influencer Opinions pointed out, 337 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: they don't appeared to be founders of this product. This 338 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: product has been sold on the internet for quite a while, 339 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: exactly like the Olivia White that glass in one Yeah, 340 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: the Ali Barber glassware that was in the shape of 341 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: like a woman's body. And she did this huge pr 342 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: push and she sent it out to influencers saying, look 343 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: at these glasses that I have designed. And then it 344 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: literally was found out that it was like two cents 345 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: to buy them off Ali Barba. That's probably one of 346 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: my favorite stories. We've actually come well, Sophy, if you 347 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: can believe it. The publicity kicked up a notch the 348 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: next day when Mitch appeared nationally on the Today Show. 349 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: So It's hosts Sarah Arbo and Karl Stefanovic even had 350 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: their own electronic forklifts in studio as they crossed to 351 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: Mitch at his home on the Gold Coast. Again, I say, 352 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: I love Sarah Arbo, but there was no angle. Yeah, 353 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: we is this cross. We actually used to work with 354 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: Sarah Arbou when she worked in the ten newsroom in Adelaide. 355 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: She's an absolute legend, so this is no shade on her. 356 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: This story does suit it self to more of a 357 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: morning show rather than a serious nightly news story because 358 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: it's lighthearted. It does make sense. You know, it's got 359 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: the optics of the cool truck that you can kids 360 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: can drive around in. Well, the thing I was surprised 361 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: about was I thought The Morning Show might reference Mitch 362 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: as being you know, angry dad, fame and all of 363 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, but they didn't. They really just 364 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: focused on the trucks. However, at the end of the segment, 365 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Kyl Stefanovic pointed out that the forklifts shown in the 366 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: studio were actually supplied by a company called Junior Traders 367 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: in Sydney. So they hire out construction props for events 368 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: and kids' parties, So it was their way of making 369 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: it clear that Mitch wasn't the only supplier of these 370 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: halk clypts. I am impressed that The Morning Show actually 371 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: did that because I think that they're showing that they're 372 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: having to live up to a bit of a higher 373 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: journalistic integrity there, because it's misleading to say that this 374 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: is the founder he creates these trucks when he doesn't. Well, 375 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: they kind of still refer to him as the fan, 376 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: but technically he is the founder of that company. But 377 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: this story went off on Facebook, so it received over 378 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty six thousand views on the Today 379 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: Show's Facebook page, and there were over two thousand comments 380 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: from excited potential customers tagging their friends. I would assume 381 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: quite confidently that the Tiny Truck Tribe's website would have 382 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: been inundated with traffic, and surely those a one hundred 383 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: pieces have sold out by now. Surely they would have 384 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: sold out by now. I was shocked though, when I 385 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: saw Kayla it'dsenus was also promoting these bloody trucks. Her 386 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: son was driving around in one. Well that makes sense 387 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: because Kayla's living on the Gold Coast now. 388 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 8: Oh, because I was going to say, what it would 389 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 8: be hard to ship such a large thing to Adelaide, 390 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 8: And I mean, I wonder if that means that she's 391 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 8: now connected with the Orvils and their friendly being on 392 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 8: the Gold Coast together. 393 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but speaking about delivery, the Tiny Trucks 394 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: Tribe Instagram has been helping some negative comments since all 395 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: of the TV coverage, so people have been accusing the 396 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: company of being a drop shipping business, and someone also 397 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: commented that you can buy the forklift on eBay for 398 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: four hundred dollars less. Now Tiny Trucks have hit back. 399 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: They said, we were able to build these products for 400 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: much cheaper, but unfortunately that meant compromising on the quality 401 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: of the materials and the quality of the batteries we use. Sorry, what, 402 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: Since I have kids myself, I understood the importance of 403 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: using the highest materials. We would rather spend more on 404 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: the product and be able to assure it's used the 405 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: best material that were made available to us. Could that 406 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: be any more confusing? 407 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 7: Yeah? 408 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: We are filming this quite late at night, and I 409 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: wasn't sure if you were just tired or if that 410 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: sentence had no grammar whatsoever. Is he suggesting that there 411 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: are numerous suppliers who supplied these trucks, So maybe this 412 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: truck is from a supplier with cheaper goods. Yeah. I 413 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: think that's basically what he's saying. But the fact that 414 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: he said we were able to build these products gives 415 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: you this idea that they've got this workshop and they 416 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: set out these two dads from the Gold Coaster just 417 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: putting these forklifts together. I loved it because someone commented, Bro, 418 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: they know he just dropped shipping them, to which Tiny 419 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: Trucks Tribe aka Mitch responded these products are manufactured, not 420 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: drop shipped. We're happy to show you through our warehouse 421 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: if you would like to see our physical product where 422 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: are you located, to which someone else responded, we would 423 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: love to see a video of your warehouse and a 424 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: video of them being welded up and engineered painted. Interestingly, though, 425 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: after numerous requests online for people saying well, why don't 426 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: you just film the warehouse and show us, there's been 427 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: no tour of the warehouse shed on. That is disappointing. 428 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: It is quite interesting to reflect on the fact that 429 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: Mitch did take such a large hiatus from social media 430 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: and vowed that he didn't want to return and take 431 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: part in it, but now he is using the power 432 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: of social media to promote this new business. 433 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 8: Now. 434 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: Aside from that, there's also been questions raised over alleged 435 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: fake reviews on the website. So when Mitch launched Tiny 436 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: Trucks Australia, they launched as a pre sale, so no 437 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: products had actually gone on sale yet, but there were 438 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: already thirty reviews on the website. So some super slouves 439 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: have uncovered that the customer photos attached to some of 440 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: these reviews show different product logos on the Forklift, which 441 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: is quite concerning because Ossie influencer Opinions has pointed out 442 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: that fake reviews are illegal under the Australian Consumer Law. 443 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: So I'm assuming these reviews are from family and or friends, 444 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: or that these reviews have been lifted from other websites 445 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: that also sell the product. But in any case, this 446 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: really should be disclosed to the consumer. 447 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 2: You guys might know my wedding details recently got leaked 448 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: online posted online accidentally. 449 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro has admitted her recent invite leak has reaked 450 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: havoc on her wedding plans, with the couple forced to 451 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: change details that ensure the wedding remains a private affair. 452 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 8: Now. 453 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: We spoke about the leak on Friday's episode, but just 454 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: to bring everyone up to speed, fellow influencer Sofa Dofa 455 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: accidentally leaked the details when she showed a close up 456 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: version of Tammy's invite on her vlog. What was she thinking? 457 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: It was just wild and this led people to discover 458 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: Tammy's online wedding website, which had even more details about 459 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: the big day. Now, I really liked it because Tammy 460 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: doesn't usually address any controversy she likes to ignore it, 461 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: but in this case, she created a TikTok addressing all 462 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: of the recent headlines that have been coming out about her. 463 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: Here's what she said about the leaked invites. 464 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: You guys may know my wedding details recently got leaked online, 465 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: posted online accidentally. This has caused a few issues for me. 466 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: I've had to change a lot of the details because 467 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 2: of so you want to be very private, and it 468 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: hasn't yet. It's been a bit frustrating. 469 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: You'd be feeling so bad if you were so for Dofer. 470 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: I know that she didn't intentionally do it, but it 471 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: was pretty careless of her, and it has had huge 472 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: ramifications for Tammy and Matt. Yeah, I don't know what 473 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: you would do to make it up to Tammy and Matt. 474 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: There would be so much awkwardness around it. Well, surely 475 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: she's going to drop a big present in the wishing well, 476 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: because that's been spoken about a lot. It's funny you 477 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: bring that up because Tammy in this video she said 478 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: that I've seen somewhere online that someone is saying that 479 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm expecting three to five grand from each wedding guest 480 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: as a present, and that was from Amber from Influencer updates. 481 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: To be clear, Amber said that she might be expecting 482 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: presents between one to two k because it is like 483 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: a celebrity wedding, but Tammy said that is not the 484 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: case at all. That is absolutely absurd. I'm not expecting anything, 485 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: particularly not that. And she also did clear up the 486 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: wishing well. So she said that she was asked by 487 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: her family members, what do you want as a gift? 488 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: So she said, oh, well, I'll set up a wishing well. 489 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Here's what she said. 490 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say about that. That 491 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: is obviously not to at all. I'm not asking for 492 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: donations at my wedding. This is meant to be for 493 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: my family and friends. Remember that, Remember that they wrote 494 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: this article to do with the fact that we had 495 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: a wishing well. We will have a wishing well. I 496 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: think a wishing well is a pretty normal thing for 497 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: people to have at the wedding, and we literally only 498 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: had it because I kept having people ask me like, oh, 499 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: like what about gifts. 500 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 9: Like what do you want? 501 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: Or my friends and family find it so funny that 502 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: this is even an article. None of them thought it 503 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: was weird, but apparently to the world who are not 504 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: invited to my wedding. They think, yeah, it's really well 505 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: when I'm pretty sure like every wedding I've ever been 506 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: to has had that. 507 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: I agree with Tammy because I think it was wrong 508 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: of the media to label it as donations. Nobody thinks 509 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: that you're donating to somebody updating to the charity of 510 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: Tammy Hair. They were purposely trying to be misleading in 511 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: that headline by calling it donations. And as I said 512 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: on the Friday Show, I think that Tammy and Matt 513 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: have every right to have a wishing well if that's 514 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: what they want to do, and it's quite clear the 515 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: family and friends like as normal families do, or saying 516 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 1: what do you guys want us to get you? Because 517 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: it's a gift to help set the couple up. And 518 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: I know, obviously Tammy has already established herself with potentially 519 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: being worth fifty million dollars, but it's still a nice gesture, 520 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: it is, and they might have plans as a couple 521 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: to put that money towards a honeymoon. Yeah. There was 522 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: also a lot of discussion around Tammy's decision to have 523 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: a child free wedding, and many have got their noses 524 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: out of joint because they assumed that it meant that 525 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: her kids wouldn't be in attendance. Now Tammy cleared this up, 526 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: confirming her kids will be front and center at her wedding, 527 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: but she just wants her guest to be able to 528 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: enjoy the day kid free from their own children. 529 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: Of course, my children are going to be at my wedding. 530 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: Like I literally got emails from Daily Mail and all 531 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: these things asked me to comment with the fact that 532 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: my kids are not going to be at my wedding, 533 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: and my kids are obviously going to be there. 534 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: I went to a christening recently and everybody brought their 535 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: kids along, which was fine, but I instantly saw why 536 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: people don't want kids at big days like weddings, because 537 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: these kids were running a muk. They're running down the aisle, 538 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: you couldn't concentrate on the actual baptism. I think it's 539 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: pretty shit that Tammy is having to defend her wedding 540 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: decisions due to this leak, but I kind of enjoyed 541 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: the fact that she's calling people out. I also enjoy 542 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: that Tammy's been giving extra details, but I would assume 543 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: they would have expected this kind of media coverage because 544 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: there has been so much discussion on Matt's podcasts about 545 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: the relationship itself, so of course there's going to be 546 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: a lot of interest from the public and also the media. 547 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. I do think that she has played it 548 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: well though, pr wise, because she said that she was 549 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: inundated by emails from journals, from the Daily Mail and 550 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: those sort of publications, and she didn't give them any 551 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: sort of quotes, but her going on her TikTok, providing 552 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: her explanation in her own terms, She's in control of 553 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: the way it comes across. And now it's led to 554 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: more media picking up on her quotes and actually putting 555 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: the article from her point of view. And I think 556 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: it has garnered some sympathy for her because I think 557 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: a lot of brides could relate to having to change 558 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: your plans due to something outside of your control. Don't 559 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: you think as well that when you hear somebody talking 560 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: about an incident like that, for example, the wishing Well, 561 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: it makes it so much more personal hearing it from 562 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: Tammy's perspective. But when you see a headline and it's 563 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: like rich influencer asked for donations, of course everyone's going 564 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: to think ill of it. I did notice because the 565 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: line that Tammy read out was a Channel seven headline 566 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: that we read out on this podcast on Friday. But 567 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: she did omit the part where they said she was 568 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: worth fifty million dollars. I do wonder if she's been 569 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: forced to change the date the wedding because she said 570 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: that they've had to change things. I do wonder what 571 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: parts of the wedding have been taken. Could do red 572 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: heiring like they've changed nothing. I mean they would have 573 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: secure over. Maybe this is all some strategy. Maybe they 574 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: got so for Doford to release the fake date, they'd 575 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, this could be, this could be we 576 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: could be onto something. 577 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 9: Yes, but it was definitely hard because I love love 578 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 9: and I started to think maybe it wasn't for me. 579 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: Britt Hockley has finally found her penguin. The Lifelime cut 580 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: host announced her engagement to professional Swiss soccer player Ben Seacrest. 581 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: Now Ben popped the question whilst the couple were holidaying 582 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: in the Hamilton Islands. Surely he hired a professional photographer 583 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: for the proposal because the photos Brits subsequently uploaded were stunning. 584 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it showed that he proposed on this 585 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: beautiful beach and it was very bacheloress. So he had 586 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: organized a helicopter and there was also a yacht on 587 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: standby where they celebrated with Champagne. The photographer managed to 588 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: snap the moment exactly when he was down on one knee, 589 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: and there were all these beautiful close up shots of 590 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: BRIT's reaction and of course a lot of close ups 591 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: of this ring. He did a good job. Yeah, I 592 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: mean all I have to admit, as soon as I 593 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: saw this ring, I immediately googled his net worth, so 594 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: I gassed when I saw it. It reminded me a 595 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: lot of Kim Kardashian's ring from what was his last name, 596 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: Humphrey's Girl. Well, I mean, it actually doesn't look anything 597 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: like it, but the size of the ring, and that 598 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: is what I'm finding more and more is some engagement rings. 599 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can't even like, is that a 600 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: real diamond? I think in this case it is because 601 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: he is worth it says online. If you're to believe 602 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: this five million dollars. And it actually was very reminiscent 603 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: of Tammy Hembro's ring because it is a oval diamond, 604 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: it's got a yellow band. It is stunning, and I'm 605 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: so happy for her. She did share the news on Instagram, writing, 606 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: in any lifetime, it's a yes, just two people loving 607 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: each other for the rest of our lives. I did 608 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: find the caption kind of funny though, because it's like, oh, 609 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: it's such a quaint love. But then there were these 610 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: photos of them on this epic yacht living their best lives. 611 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: Like yeah. But I think everyone or most people are 612 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: really excited for Britt because she has had such a 613 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: time of it. Obviously, she's got the Life Uncut podcast, 614 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: and she has shared many stories about awful dating experiences 615 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: she has had and awful relationships. So I, for one, 616 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: was really excited when I saw the news and happy 617 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: for her. I was so happy for her because we 618 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: all met her when she was absolutely shafted by the 619 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: honey badger on The Bachelor. Then she's kicked off her 620 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: podcast by revealing that she actually dated a sociopath, and 621 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: most recently, she has had her heart broken by Ossie 622 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: tennis player Jordan Thompson. So I think everyone has been 623 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: rooting for Britt and has been really keen for her 624 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: to find someone special. And Ben seems so nice. Oh, 625 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: I love them together. They are so cute, as did 626 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 1: the Blue Tick Brigade were out in force to congratulate her, 627 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: so her bestie Rebel Wilson wrote under the post, Yes, 628 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: biggest congratulations to you, babes. I really loved the way 629 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: that Britt broke the news to her co host Laura 630 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: and also producer Keisha. So on my fun cut if 631 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: you haven't listened, they haven't asked uncut segment where they 632 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: answer questions about dating and then they give their advice. So, 633 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to the other hosts, Britt had written a topic 634 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: of her own. Let's throw to the clip. 635 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 9: I've been single for the better part of ten years 636 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 9: and I was always a single friend, watching all my 637 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 9: friends fall in love, which made me so happy, but 638 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 9: it was definitely hard because I love love, and I 639 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 9: started to. 640 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Think maybe it wasn't for me. 641 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 4: Oh love love. 642 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 9: Then in twenty twenty two, I met this amazing guy, 643 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 9: but he lived overseas. My friends were really concerned because 644 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 9: long distance is never easy and I've always had commitment issues, 645 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 9: but this time it felt different and I thought he 646 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 9: was worth it. Flash forward to now and I've never 647 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 9: been happier, and last week on a beautiful island, he 648 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 9: asked me to be here is why? You just want 649 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 9: to know, what's a cute way to tell my friends 650 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 9: that I'm getting married? 651 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: Spoiler it's me? 652 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 6: How did you leave it to theathetic question? Because she's 653 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 6: gonna diarrhea? I was gonna tell you on Monday? 654 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 4: Ed out of me. 655 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: How long did you tell you? 656 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 4: Can you believe it? 657 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 6: No? 658 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? What are we doing now? 659 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Johnny with the confetti? 660 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: You talked john before you. 661 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 6: I l me. 662 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, so I love you so much. 663 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: I just never thought it would happen. This clip has 664 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: gone viral on TikTok. It has almost a million views, 665 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: and it's not surprising. It almost brought a tear to 666 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: my eye because the genuine happiness and excitement that Laura 667 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: and Keisha showed was so nice. It was nice because 668 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: I think initially everyone had seen the very curated photos 669 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: and as he said, there was the yacht and there 670 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: was the ring, and I was so happy forst seing 671 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 1: the photos. But I was even happier when I saw 672 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: her genuine joy and the joy in her friend's faces 673 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: as well, I was surprised to later find out that 674 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: Laura was actually in on Ben's engagement plans all along. 675 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: What Yeah So on their radio show, Laura revealed that 676 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: two months prior, Ben had slid into her DMS asking 677 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: her for help with an engagement ring. And for those 678 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: who don't know, Laura is a jewelry designer, and Laura 679 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: said they ran into a problem because Ben sent her 680 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: through a photo of a white gold diamond ring and 681 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: Laura had to be pretty blunt and say, look, Britt 682 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: is not going to like that ring and she's not 683 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: going to wear it. So luckily, Britt was filming for 684 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm a Celeb at the time, so Laura had access 685 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: to her Instagram and she was able to look at 686 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: her saved photos where Brit had saved a ton of 687 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: engagement ring inspo photos, and Laura did say that she 688 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: spotted a current theme and the theme was that all 689 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: of the photos Brit saved had massive stones. So it's 690 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: not a surprise that Britt has ended up with a 691 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: massive rock. Well, maybe Laura knew that he was going 692 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: to propose, but she didn't know the moment. Yeah, But 693 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: that being said, anytime a friend goes on a luxury 694 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: holiday with their partner, Everyone's like, get your nails downe's 695 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: going to happen. Then she probably had some idea. She 696 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: probably assumed that Britt would have rung her the moment 697 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: that she got engaged. Well, this has left many people 698 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: wondering what does this mean for BRIT's future in Australia 699 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: Because Ben does live in Scotland, so the couple have 700 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: been doing long distance throughout their whole relationship, so they've 701 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: been spent time between Australia and Scotland. Ben revealed last 702 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: year that he ultimately plans to move to Australia, but 703 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: he is still playing professional soccer, so I don't know 704 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: if that's his long term goal. What do you think. Well, 705 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: Britt spoke a lot on Oms celeb about the pressure 706 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: that she faces because it's such a difficult decision. She's 707 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: obviously got a great career here in Australia. I wonder 708 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: if they're able to set up like surely there's a 709 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: podcast studio she could go to over in Scotland and 710 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: record the podcast. I think the issue is I mean 711 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: they're obviously on radio as well. Yeah, but the issue 712 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: is of the time difference because she'll be having to 713 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: either record really late or really early in the morning. 714 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's secret negotiations going on in the 715 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: background for Ben to maybe transfer over to an Australian 716 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: team so they wouldn't pay as much for one. And 717 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: hasn't he signed a four year deal? Yeah, I guess 718 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: we'll just have to wait and see what happens. I 719 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: am very excited for the wedding content that is going 720 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: to go down because I have a feeling that this 721 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: web is going to come together quite quickly. What country, though, 722 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: do you think I have to be Australia? I reckon, 723 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 1: maybe they'll do too. 724 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm signing myself up for this, but 725 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: it's for you guys. 726 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: Ash Bindes has made the decision to close down her 727 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: Active web brand Baseline as she takes a step back 728 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: to put her health first. Back in March, as she 729 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with a brain aneurysm and in May her 730 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: neurologists recommended to undergo brain surgery within the next six months. Now, 731 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: after weeks of speculation, as she confirmed on Wednesday that 732 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: her Active web brand will be shutting down. She wrote 733 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: on Instagram this chapter is closing, and a part of 734 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: me is definitely sad and will miss aspects of this 735 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: beautiful brand, but all of me knows that this is 736 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: the right choice for my health well being. And next chapter, 737 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: she did use the Instagram announcement to point out what 738 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: a huge success the active where brand has been, saying 739 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: that over the years they've sent out five hundred thousand orders. Wow, 740 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: that is a lot of money from this active web brand. 741 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: I feel stupid because I didn't even know that Ashy 742 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: Bines had an active wear brand. I have to confess, 743 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: probably six years ago, I did buy some items from 744 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: this activewear brand. I bought. I love the color that 745 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: colbalt blue color, and she had some pants like that 746 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: and a crop top, but I never wore them because 747 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: they're just too bright. I love all your admissions on 748 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: this podcast, like when you bought the sunny app subscription. 749 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: I know I'm a bit of a sucker for an 750 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: influencer brand. From time to time, I felt really sorry 751 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: for Ashy because it's absolutely horrendous what she's having to 752 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: navigate at the moment. And she explained that the health 753 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: scare has made her reevaluate her business and life and 754 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: it's made her realize the things that she wants to 755 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: let go of. She finished on a high though, by 756 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: saying that it means that they will be clearing all stocks, 757 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: so there's a huge sale on them at the moment. 758 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: Gotta love a little bit of a spook at the end. Yeah, 759 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: that is all we have time for today. Thank you 760 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: so much for joining just Amy and I today. As 761 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: we've mentioned, Kate is on matendity because the pitter pattern 762 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: of little feet could potentially be coming this week. We 763 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: don't know just yet. Yeah, we're on baby Watch. Yes, 764 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: we are on baby Watch at the moment, and we're 765 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: very excited. And if you do want to hear more 766 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: about Kate's baby journey and you know what happened baby journey, 767 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean in terms of the birth and all those 768 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of details, let us know, because we might do 769 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: an outspoken plus episode on it if there is demid 770 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: and if we sound like we're going a little nuts. 771 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: So we're tired, that is because we are recording this 772 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: quite late on a Friday night, because we are trying 773 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: to make the most of next week where we potentially 774 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: might have our nephew here. So it's one of those 775 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: times where you really want to enjoy the moment and 776 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: not feel stressed. So we are working over time to 777 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 1: make sure we get all of our episodes out to you. Yes, 778 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: and if you are on Instagram or TikTok, don't forget 779 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: to follow the podcast at Outspoken Underscore the Underscorre Podcast. Also, 780 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: if you two are on Baby Watch, don't forget to 781 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: follow Kate on Instagram at Kate Torbot. Sophie and I 782 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: are also on Instagram. Just search our names. Also, please 783 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: let us know if you're enjoying the first installment of 784 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: our Shiny grim in Deep Dive. I have felt so 785 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: nostalgic going back and watching Chinese old videos. And if 786 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: you head to our TikTok account, we are sharing quite 787 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: a number of reels flashback reels which are so funny. 788 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Chloe Zepp from like fifteen years ago 789 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: is hysterical. She looks so much like Artie fifteen years ago. 790 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: It was like eight years ago. Oh I'm sorry again, 791 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: I am told I have just aged them, but it 792 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: feels like a hell of a long time ago. It 793 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: actually has made me want to go back and relive 794 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: all of those moments, like watch all of Hines's videos 795 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: in order. This episode was recorded on the traditional land 796 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay 797 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: respect to elders past and present