1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Already and this this is the Daily OS. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: This is the Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Wednesday, 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: the sixteenth of July. I'm Billy fitz Simon's. 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm Sam Kazlowski. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: You've likely heard about the journey of Carolina Wilga, the 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: German backpacker who got lost in the unforgiving outback of 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: Western Australia last Friday. After eleven nights. Wilga was found 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: by a member of the public while walking on the 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: edge of a nature reserve. Billy said she had endured 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: the harshest of conditions, including freezing temperatures and relentless mosquito rides. 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: We'll tell you what you need to know about the 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: twenty six year old's journey in today's podcast. 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Billy, this story really does resonate with me because earlier 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: this year I was on a ski holiday with friends 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: in Japan to celebrate thirtieth birthdays. I actually also got lost. 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: So I was wondering what the link was there. 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: It was six minutes, not eleven days, but in those 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: six minutes, I really did feel like I had no 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: idea where I was. Wow, So I can only imagine. 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Well imagine doing that by yourself and for it being 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 2: about a billion times longer. 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was I needed three days to 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: recover mess. 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: You we're with like thirty friends. 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but the six minutes that changed my life. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk about eleven days of that. Where does this 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: story start? 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Okay? So this starts with a woman called Carolina Wilga. 30 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: And as I said, she is a German backpacker. She 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: is twenty six years old and she has been in 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: Australia backpacking for about two years now. She's been in 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: Western Australia and she's mostly been living in. 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Hostel A solid effort. 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: Yes, And now go through what we know about her journey, 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: and just keep in mind that all of this information 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: we know we know from W eight Police, who have 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: obviously been very involved in searching for kral. So her 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 2: last contact with her friends was on Sunday, the twenty 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: ninth of June, when she was known to be in 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: the Beacon area, which is about three hundred kilometers northeast 42 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: of Perth, and police said that she had told friends 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: and family that she was interested in traveling around remote 44 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: and regional wa She really wanted I mean, we know 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: that Wa is such a vast, massive landscape, and she 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: really wanted to go around traveling, seeing the outback and 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: seeing what I guess Wa has to offer. 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: So it's not like she stumbled on these remote and 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: regional parts of the state she went looking for in 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: the adventure exactly. 51 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: So then after the twenty ninth of June, her friends 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: and family did not hear it from her. Now, the 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: first the public heard about it was on the seventh 54 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: of July. That is when Wa police announced it publicly. 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: They shared her photo, they shared it with the media 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: and they said that this German backpacker has gone missing, 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: and they said if anyone knows any information, please tell 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: the police. 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: It's quite a solid amount of time, isn't it, From 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: the twenty ninth of June until the seventh of July, 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: So we've got about an eight day period before the 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: public was informed about her disappearance exactly. 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: And then it was three days after that. So on 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: the tenth of July that police found the car that 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: Carolina had been traveling in in Karoon Hill. Now that 66 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: is about one hundred kilometers north of where she had 67 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: last been seen in Beacon, So they knew the car 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: that she had been traveling in, and they literally just 69 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: found it abandoned in this area, and it appeared that 70 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: the vehicle had been abandoned. Carolina was not anywhere near 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: this car. She didn't appear to be anywhere, and it 72 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: had things like food and water and clothes in it. 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: So it was quite a confusing scene for police to 74 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: come across in their search for Carolina. And police said 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: that it appeared the car, which was a Mitsubishi Van, 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: had suffered mechanical issues, so the car wasn't working. Now, 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: this information provided context for where Wilga could be, obviously, 78 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: because it appeared that she could be at the karun 79 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Hill Nature Reserve. Now, I don't know how familiar you 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: are with WA outback, but the karun Hill Nature Reserve 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: is about three hundred thousand hectes enormous, yes, So to 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: put that into perspective, that's about a quarter of the 83 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: size of Greater Sydney. So that kind of gives you 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: an understanding of both the area that Carolina was lost 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 2: in and the extent of the area of the search 86 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: that WA police were now searching. 87 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: And I can only imagine that the landscape and the 88 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: environment in that area is incredibly. 89 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: Harsh, very harsh, and that is what police kept saying. 90 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: They said that there is diverse animal wildlife there. They 91 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: also said that it can be very dangerous if you 92 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: don't know where you're going, because navigating there is really hard. 93 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: They also said that at night, the temperature was getting 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: to blow zero degrees, it was getting down to negative 95 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: two degrees, which was concerning because obviously police didn't know 96 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: that she had or police presumed that she didn't have 97 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: any shelter because she didn't have her car with her. Yeah, 98 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: so she was just in freezing, freezing conditions. They also 99 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: know that it was raining for a couple of days there, 100 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: so again just the harshest of conditions to be lost in. 101 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: And also I think another piece of interesting information is 102 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: that media was actually told not to go to this 103 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: area because of how harsh it was. 104 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: That's really interesting. So we have this big development on 105 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: the tenth of July, police find and abandoned Mitsubishi in 106 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: this area that they believe that the twenty six year 107 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: old backpacker is then what happened. 108 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: So then last Friday, on the eleventh of July, so 109 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: this is one day after police said that they had 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: found the car. Police announced that a member of the 111 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: public had found Carolina. 112 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing in this type of story that we 113 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: actually have a positive resolution. I mean, if you kind 114 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: of stop this place cast episode here, you'd almost kind 115 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: of guess that they found somebody who was deceased on 116 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: that something terrible had happened. That's not the case here. Yeah. No. 117 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: So they said that at four point thirty pm on Friday, 118 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: Carolina was found after she flagged down a passing car 119 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: on the edge of the Karun Hill Nature Reserve. Now, 120 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: they said she was about twenty four kilometers of where 121 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: her vehicle had been left, so we can presume or 122 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: police have confirmed that she walked that distance. So she 123 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: had walked up to twenty four kilometers over those eleven days, 124 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: although probably a lot more than that. And in terms 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: of the state that she was in, police said that 126 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: she was exhausted, dehydrated, and hungry. 127 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I can only imagine, yeah, you can. 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: That all makes sense, and that remarkably she only had 129 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 2: minor injuries like cuts and bruises. Police also said that 130 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: she had been ravaged by mosquitoes, which I just can't 131 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: imagine that would be horrific, and she had been flown 132 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: to Perth to receive metalw cool assistance. That kind of 133 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: only goes to her physical state, though, In terms of 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: the mental and emotional state she was in, police said 135 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: that she was completely traumatized and overwhelmed by the experience 136 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: that she had had, and they also said that she 137 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: was just in disbelief that she had survived. They basically 138 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: said that she had come to terms with not surviving 139 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: and she just believed that no one was ever going 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: to find her. Here's a bit of what police said 141 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: from a press conference on Saturday. 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: In her mind, she had convinced herself that she was 143 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: not going to be located. I mean that, you know, 144 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: eleven days out there is significant. So I'm sure she 145 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 3: got to a point where she thought no one's coming. 146 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: Look, she's coming to terms with what's happened, and we're 148 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: just giving her that emotional support that she needs. 149 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So, Billy, in the couple of days since the 150 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: discovery of Carolina, and she's obviously now recovering in hospital, 151 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: have we learned any more details like what actually happens 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: to the car for example. 153 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, earlier this week, Carolina released a statement via 154 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: WA Police explaining why exactly she abandoned her car. So 155 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: she said, this is a quote directly from her Some 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: people might wonder why I even left my car, even 157 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: though I had water, food, and clothing there. The answer 158 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: is I lost control of the car and rolled down 159 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: a slope. In the crash, I hit my head significantly 160 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: as a result of the accident. I left my car 161 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: in a state of confusion and got lost. 162 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Wow. There are a lot of layers in that, and 163 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: you can just imagine the chaos and the disoriented feelings 164 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: that she was going. 165 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: Through, which is exactly what police have said that she 166 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: was so disoriented in the process of this. They did 167 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: add a little bit more context to that, so they 168 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: said that when she left the car, she actually looked 169 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: at the direction of the sun to help her navigate 170 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: where to go, and she thought the best idea was 171 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: to go west because she believed that she was going 172 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: to be able to find someone or find a car 173 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: to help her. Essentially, what she didn't realize is that 174 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: it would take her eleven days to find someone. 175 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: And it's also incredible in the big scheme of the 176 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: area of the park that it was only and I 177 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: say that kind of without the first out experience of 178 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: that twenty four kilometers between her and the car. That's 179 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: not a lot of ground over eleven days to cover, 180 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: but I'm sure she felt hundreds of kilometers away from 181 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: her car because of you know, the stress of the 182 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: situation that she was in. And that was all until 183 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: she was discovered by this person. Have we heard anything 184 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: from the person who discovered her. 185 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the woman who found her did speak to 186 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: WA Today, which is a local newspaper there, and she said, 187 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: I pulled over and got out and I gave her 188 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: a hug. She was crying. It was pretty emotional, all right. 189 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: I said, everybody's looking for you. Everybody's been worried. She 190 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: didn't know how long she had been out there. She 191 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: asked the date and then said, my mom will be worried. 192 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: It's been too long. 193 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: And that is a beautiful kind of first sentiment to say. 194 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: As you're discovered from a well can only be described 195 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: as a near death experience. Do we know how Carolina 196 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: is and what's next for her? She heading back to 197 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: the hostels? 198 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, great question. So police said that she is still recovering, 199 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: and like we said that the physical injuries remarkably weren't 200 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: too much, but it's the emotional state and the trauma 201 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: that she has endured that will take a bit longer 202 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: for her to recover from. They did say that she 203 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: is just so in love with Australia and the response 204 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: that she has got since she has been saved has 205 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: been amazing, and that she wants to stay here. She 206 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: wants to stay in Australia. Police said that she says 207 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: she has a lot more travel that she still wants 208 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: to do hopefully on beaten tracks, yes, and that she 209 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: hasn't yet traveled to Australia's East Coast, which is next 210 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: on her list. 211 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Well. I hope that she perhaps brings a buddy along 212 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: for some of those journeys. But a really good story 213 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: of human survival and can unity effort. There's been a 214 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: couple of amazing survival stories like Caroline the story in Australia. 215 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: In the last kind of twelve months or so, I 216 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: remember us talking about a young man in the Blue 217 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: Mountains in New South Wales who also survived a number 218 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: of days on just one musli bar. I think it 219 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: was so. 220 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: It's remarkable what humans can do when they are in 221 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: that survival Mode. 222 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: Incredible story. Thank you for bringing a bit of light 223 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: and happy ending to a new story, Billy that that 224 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: really means a lot. 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