1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Yes, here we are again, delving back into the year 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: that turns forty this year nineteen eighty four. In nineteen 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: eighty four, news and current affairs. I mean, news and 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: current affairs is big business now, of course, but I 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: feel like in the eighties took itself a bit more seriously, 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: and I was there was a first family of news 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: and current affairs in this country, which continues on today. 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: But I knew everything that I needed to know because 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Terry told me so, Terry Willisy, good morning. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: The memories come floody. 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: No, I know, isn't an amazing how something gets in 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 3: your head? Because I'll never forget the full jingle. Very catchy, 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: very catchy, very catchy. 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: People sing it to you Terry in the streets. 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: No, we haven't met me in the street. 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: In life, but back in the day, that did happen 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, it was very catchyel line comped out 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: quite a lot of yeah a little thing. 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Terry an incredible career in news and current affairs in 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: this country, starting at Channel seven in nineteen sixty nine, 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: if I may spill the date in the newsrom you 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: went on to host current affairs shows like Terry Willissy's Perth, 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: Terry Willisey Tonight, a Current Affair extra. Where exactly were 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: you in nineteen eighty four eighty four? 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: I was in Sydney. I left Perth in nineteen eighty three, 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: and then there was eighty four. I was doing a 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: show called Terry Willoughsey Tonight in Sydney. Yeah, current affairs program, 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: not the show. Yeah, yeah, a lot of fun. It 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: was a big time current affairs and very competitive and 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: very active and a lot of fun. 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, Terry, watching you on TV, it was all about 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 5: trust and likability and you know I felt both of 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 5: those when I saw you on the TV. Did people 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 5: often say that to you, that that's how you made 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 5: them feel? 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Pleasure, You're so kind? Yeah, yeah, occasion. I'm getting 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: out a bit. I suppose I worked very hard at 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: what I did and I believed in it strongly, and 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: I guess that shone through with you are genuine about 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: what you do and what you're presenting, then I guess 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: you're going to get that sort of feedback, which was 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: nice to get. 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: I think trust was paramount, wasn't it. It really was 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: how much control did you have over what stories that 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: you covered on those those tonight shows. 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: Well. In the current affair shows in Perth particularly, I 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: was the executive producer, so I had a lot of 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: say and what stories we covered. In the early days 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: of news, you just you know, you were sent to 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: you went where you were sent. But as things progressed, 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 2: you became more experienced and I was a hold of 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: senior position on the current affair shows I worked on 53 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: here in Sydney and in New York. I had more 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: of a say than in the stories, but it was 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: a bit of a give and take sort of thing. 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: Someone comes up with a better idea, you'd run with that. 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: Okay, very problem I mean, and that in and of 58 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: itself is something that doesn't necessarily happen. Now you be 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: able to acknowledge that someone's got a better idea, Let's 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: embrace it. 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: Let's embrace it. 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 5: Hey, Terry, what about dominomy years you're in you so 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 5: you have to talk about a lot of grim stuff. 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: It's not always easy. You can find yourself getting emotional. 65 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I didn't think about it for the first thirty 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: five years. I just didn't realize that covering bad news 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: stories was having an effect on you, was building up 68 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: in your system, and it all came to a head 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: when I was in New York and I went down 70 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: to cover the Oklahoma City bombing, which is the biggest 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: act of terrorism on mainland America at the time, and 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: it was just horrendous, to a lot of people killed. 73 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: It was awful. And some time after that, I came 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: back to Perth actually, and I was talking at a 75 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: breakfast for the Rotary Club, and I wouldn't asked me 76 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: to tell the story about Oklahoma City bombing and what happened. 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: I was telling the story, and all of a sudden 78 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: I broke down. I just lost control. It's just a 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: cumulative effect of everything you'd seen and heard over the years, 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: road accidents and that sort of thing, and fires and 81 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City boling, which is horrendous. 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: Children were killed. 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, just terrible. You never sort of never stopped 84 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: to think all this, maybe this is getting getting missed 85 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: until that moment when I realized, oh, you've been you 86 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: are affected by this, you're absorbing it. 87 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: Allah, the cumulative effect. 88 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and being professional at the time, Oh yes, of course, Terry, 89 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 5: Well that's right, Yeah, go ahead. 90 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: What were the really big stories around eighty four. 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: Eighty four? There's a big one in Sydney in eighty 92 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: four made the front pages around the country and made 93 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: news around the world. It became known as the Mill 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: Pair of massacre. Yes, yes, it was a brutal shootout 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: erupted between two biking gangs. Yea. There been a barbecue 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 2: market day at a pub called the Viking Hotel on 97 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: the outskirts of Sydney and it turned out the common 98 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: shareows were at war with the at the time, so 99 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: they laid in wait at this barbecue day, this fundraising 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: day for another club, and the bandidos arrived and the 101 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: fighting began. It started just with punch ups and things 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: like that on baseball bats and machetes. One guy lost 103 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: an arm and then the shooting started. This is in 104 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: a setting where families are gathered for a fundraising afternoon 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: to swap and sell some bicycle motorbike paths. But the 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: fighting killed seven men and very sadly a seven year 107 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: old fourteen year old girl who'd been selling raffle tickets 108 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: died after being hit with a shotgun blast. It was 109 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: a terrible, terrible tragedy. 110 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: Medicare came into effect that year. That must have been 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: a big story. 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: It sure did. Yeah, we had Bob Hawk was our 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: Prime Minister and it was Yeah, there was a lot 114 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: of conjecture about it, of course, men those who were 115 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: opposed to it, saying, you know, it would be a 116 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: downfall for our health system, but it's lasted. It was 117 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: a big deal then and it took a while to 118 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: get going and still going today. It was very beneficial, 119 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: you know, a universal healthcare system. 120 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We had the Los Angeles Olympics in 121 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: eighty four and there were some surprise results of the 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: Aussies winning goalie Johnny Sieben in the pool and you 123 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: probably were all over that as well, mate. 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, yeah, it was a very very exciting time. 125 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: There has some I can't remember exactly. There's some sort 126 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: of problem they had there and there was disruptions and 127 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: demonstrations and things, but it went ahead and it was 128 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: a big deal with the LA Olympics one of the 129 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: biggest and best. 130 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you go with the jetpack flying around the every 131 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 5: stadium in LA. 132 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: We talked about you coming from a media family dynasty. 133 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: There was probably never any other thought other than. 134 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: Going into what you went into. 135 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: But your brother Mike will I see, one of the 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: greatest broadcasters ever. 137 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: Did you have a bit of rivalry between the two. 138 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: Of you or we always you know, really happy for 139 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: whatever each did. 140 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: No, we had. 141 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: It was interesting. 142 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: We had a rivalry absolutely, Yeah, honesty, Terry the biggest 143 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: part of it. 144 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: We love the honesty, mate. 145 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, definitely rivalry. But we loved each other like 146 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: brothers and everything went well. But we were very competitive, yes, 147 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: and it was great when we got one story that 148 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: they didn't get, which was fantastic. Yeah, it was. Yeah, 149 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: he was he was. I appreciate your comments about Mike. 150 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: He was the best television interviewer in the country. He 151 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: was Saxoto, you know, he was the best. Yeah, we 152 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: miss him sadly. 153 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not wrong, man, absolutely. Yeah. 154 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 5: What about journalism in twenty twenty four. I mean, we 155 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 5: know the tech side of news has changed, but journalism 156 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 5: when now I hear police are now called cops and 157 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 5: children are called kids in the news, and then it 158 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 5: has changed, isn't. 159 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: It, Terry. 160 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite surprised and surprising the way some of 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: it has changed. Just as a sort of comparison, when 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: I started in sixty nine, we were going out shooting 163 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: news stories on black and white film. Then to come 164 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: back to the studio, have a process, so forty minutes 165 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: later you get to see your story. Then we went 166 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: to color and then to videotape, and to today where 167 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: you've got people who can shoot a news story on 168 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: their phone and it can be on air within minutes. 169 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: So it's a whole new world, but also a lot 170 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: more pressures. I think today, is it as much time 171 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: journalists have to prepare a story and give it, give 172 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: it one hundred percent. I think they're giving it less 173 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: because they've got so much pressure on them to feed 174 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: stories out sort of around the clock, you know, while 175 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: they're on the road, they're sending stories for their headlines 176 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: and for other things bits and pieces, and for online 177 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: stuff as well. So it's a tough gig now. 178 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: When that demand may have come at a cost in 179 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: my opinion, And also this sort of twenty for our 180 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: news cycle terry that you know, there's a lot of 181 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: just stuff, you know that you lose the really good 182 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: quality things in the you know, the all the other stuff. 183 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: I find, Yeah, I think so. And I think because 184 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: there are so many mediums to get your news during 185 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: the day, I find the big news junkie, particularly by 186 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: the time I get to watch the five o'clock or 187 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: six o'clock news, I know it all. There's not much 188 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: new happening, and I think that may impact on the 189 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: viewership of the evening news. Is the set standard pieces, 190 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: So whether that will all change, I don't know. 191 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, have fond memories of that old Channel nine building, 192 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 5: like Rabbit Warrens back then and Diane Ella or on 193 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 5: the mirror book a border there, and I think I 194 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 5: had a swimming pool. It was pretty flash in the 195 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 5: early days, wasn't it, Terry. 196 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a lovely swimming pool. We didn't get 197 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: to use it most of it. No, No, it was no, 198 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: it's good. I started at Channel seven, which is Intuityhill 199 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: next order. 200 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: Yes, Channel nine. 201 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were the good old days. But they were 202 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: back in those days in the newsroom we would have 203 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: time to have friendly games at cricket with rolled up 204 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: pieces of stuff. I don't think that happens today. Yeah, 205 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: we did work very hard, but also it was a 206 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: fun time as well. 207 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you know you worked at the 208 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: sort of the best time to be working in news 209 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: and current affairs. 210 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I really do think that, I really do. It 211 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: was it was enjoyable. I loved the work, you know. 212 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: I threw myself into it just believing that this was 213 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: the most important thing in the world, that these news 214 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: stories get out every day and we do a good 215 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: job on them. Now that I'm out of it, I 216 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: look back and say, well, it wasn't the most important, 217 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: but I got the most out of it anyway. 218 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, tell you made a lot of documentaries over time. 219 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 5: Was that somebody you're very you missed me very passionate 220 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 5: about doing that work as well? 221 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I did that at Channel nine. I 222 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: made fourteen documentaries all based in Perth. I think I 223 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: think ninety nine five percent of them were based in Perth, 224 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: and they rated their heads off Perth. People wanted to 225 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: know what was going on in their town, and we 226 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: were doing stuff that other people hadn't done out and 227 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: giving them a full half hour, an hour whatever it 228 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: was an hour I think, And so we listen terrific 229 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: stories just down to worth many gritty stories that people love, 230 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: and the ratings were huge. We just were amazed. 231 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: The dynasty continues. 232 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: There's you know, I mean not even not just in 233 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: front of the camera, but behind the camera. I think 234 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: there's you know, Willowses all over the place. I think, 235 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: what would she be your niece Sally Langdon, your niece 236 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: in law or something is current affair now, Christmas at 237 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: the Willowses must be awesome. 238 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 6: Also, well, yeah it is at they are a bit 239 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 6: I even must have this say and yes, there we go, 240 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 6: there we get by. Yeah they're fun time. 241 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: Well, Terry, there is a very good reason why you 242 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: won four Logi Awards for most Popular Person in the 243 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: News in Western Australia in the late seventies and early eighties. 244 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: And as I said, it's been Terry told me everything 245 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I need to know. So it's been lovely to talk 246 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: to you. Terry. 247 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: Good to catch up man, it's a pleasure. 248 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for inviting me to be a 249 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: part of your nineteen eighty four retrospective. 250 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us. 251 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 4: It's Terry, all the best.