WEBVTT - Three Doting Dads feat. Larry Emdur

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to three doting Dads.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Maddie Jay, I'm Ash, I'm Larry with a

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<v Speaker 2>sock on my mic.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a podcast all about parenting. It's the good,

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<v Speaker 1>the bad, relatable and if you've come for any type

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<v Speaker 1>of advice, I'm going to be stop you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Although today might be different.

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<v Speaker 4>And we have Larry, and we've been pitching learn from

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<v Speaker 4>Larry all week.

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<v Speaker 3>Each other, like do you know what learn from Larry?

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<v Speaker 3>That'd be great.

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<v Speaker 1>People have been going to be so confused. Ye, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming for advice, sit down, attention, no distractions. But Larry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to pash your ego right now for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>If I may, he's usually pashing mind, let me tighten

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<v Speaker 4>up my sock.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, when we think about dad who are successful, you

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<v Speaker 1>are at the top of that list. You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful wife that you were still madly in love with

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned, see on social Instagram. Never lie, never, never, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a very successful career right now, and more important,

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<v Speaker 1>when you say.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now always, it'll never end, it will never end.

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<v Speaker 1>And more importantly, you've got two beautiful children who not

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<v Speaker 1>only are very successful, but it seems like you're still

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<v Speaker 1>best friends with them. Yeah, what is the secret?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us everything?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know? And I get asked that a lot too,

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel very blessed and very lucky. I think

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<v Speaker 2>most dads would say that about their kids. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I've just written a book recently where I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to work that out and I couldn't work it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nothing you always want. You want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a great dad, you want to be a great parent,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be a role model, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be helpful for the kids. But there's nothing that I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't set off down a path of being I

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<v Speaker 2>want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be great mate, going to be perfect, and it's just,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Worked out that one. I feel very lucky because I

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<v Speaker 2>know that's not everyone's story. I know that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel very lucky now that I'm best mates with my

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<v Speaker 2>son and best I was with my daughter yesterday and

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<v Speaker 2>they're older and they, you know, they've got every reason

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<v Speaker 2>to not want to.

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<v Speaker 4>Hang out with the Yeah, because your kids are similar

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<v Speaker 4>age to me. Really right, I'm thirty two.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had a sec to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently that's young, but your son's thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty nine, twenty nine, how would you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty four?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so your son's really close to my age, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like you're coming out the back end

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<v Speaker 4>of what we're just really embarking on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you've cross the finish line on that about

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much had to go into like a grandparenthood at

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<v Speaker 1>some stage in the next probably five to.

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<v Speaker 4>Ten years, right, And like for us, we've both got

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<v Speaker 4>a four year old, two year old really embarking on

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<v Speaker 4>that entry level. Yeah, sucked in, dad, Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to invite you over to change and happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start right back at the very beginning, right before

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<v Speaker 1>you have kids. You're expecting kids. Sylvie is pregnant, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about this almost like it's in

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<v Speaker 1>like the Dark Ages, which I know it's not, but

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<v Speaker 1>back then it was very different from where we're at

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's almost you know, I think back to

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<v Speaker 1>when Laura was pregnant and we had too much information

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<v Speaker 1>is every other website was podcast there was we were inundated,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to blame that for the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't read any book or I went to one

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<v Speaker 1>birthday class. But what was it like for you when

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<v Speaker 1>you were expecting kids and how did you prepare?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we had no electricity, so it was like you

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<v Speaker 2>had to light candles and no Netflix. There was no television.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at they were very different times. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the resources. I think you're exactly right, the answers to

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<v Speaker 2>all your questions on Siri now and on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>and oh and there wasn't that there. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a great It wasn't that long ago, but

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<v Speaker 2>we had great support system, my mum and Sylvie's mum

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<v Speaker 2>and we lived actually in an apartment in Bondi on

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<v Speaker 2>the top floor. It was one hundred stairs and Sylvie

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<v Speaker 2>was seventh. Sylvie was seven months pregnant and broke a leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so that was breaking leg running away from me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think no, no, she fell over, fell over, broke

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<v Speaker 2>a leg. There's different traumas and different challenges right at

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<v Speaker 2>every different stage. But everything we needed to know was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I go to the classes maybe once or twice,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was working very very hard hosting the prices, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time to go and sit in the

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<v Speaker 2>bean bag and watch those videos which I should have.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, said, I went to two of them.

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<v Speaker 4>There were eight hours long on a Saturday, the worst

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<v Speaker 4>two saturdays of my life. I'll never get that back.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think I learned anything well that I

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<v Speaker 4>can remember. And like, yeah, like Matt was saying, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a very big technological difference between like when I was

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<v Speaker 4>born we could talk about because of similar age first

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<v Speaker 4>our kids now where we just.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally did a whole episode the other day on how YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the best parent because they, yeah, they pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>look after my kids. If I'm just like, here's my phone, kid,

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<v Speaker 4>It's like back then, I don't know. I always it

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<v Speaker 4>rattles me how you did it and how much pay

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<v Speaker 4>you would have had to have Back then?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it something that came easily?

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<v Speaker 2>It was okay, you know, it wasn't about Joie was

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<v Speaker 2>actually sick when he was born. He had his sort

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<v Speaker 2>of an underdeveloped valve, and so it was indigestion, but

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<v Speaker 2>major indigestion every time he laid back even a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So he for the first probably better part of a

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<v Speaker 2>year of his life, he never slept for more than

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<v Speaker 2>forty or fifteen minutes. Yea. So it was full on

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<v Speaker 2>and I was traveling I was in Melbourne every second

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<v Speaker 2>week for four days at a time doing Prices Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So poor Sylvie here brokenly with a child who was

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<v Speaker 2>not sleeping at all, and so I'd come home from

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne after four or five days and find this wreck,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not in Sylvie, but just in the situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was horrible and I felt really bad. I'd open

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<v Speaker 2>the door, she hadn't slept for four days, should throw

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<v Speaker 2>gipe me go? It's yours, It's yours now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting the challenge in that from a relationship perspective of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and a parenting perspective, but you know, like all things

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<v Speaker 2>in that situational, most things in that situation, it turned

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<v Speaker 2>out okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I think at that time too, you kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we'st We've got to get on with that because there's

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<v Speaker 4>not much we can do with the situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the pressure as well, like the Price is

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<v Speaker 1>Right was just huge. It was one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>shows in the history of TV in Australia. And what

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<v Speaker 1>were you at the time when you were hosting it,

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<v Speaker 1>late twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was late twenties. I mean, it was nothing

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<v Speaker 2>compared to what Sylvia was going through at home.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to work to hang on last No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hear this. Probably she will probably hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to work in playing games and from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a mother, a new mother's perspective, who wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping sitting at home. I'm in Melbourne. I'm surrounded by

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<v Speaker 2>girls in bikinis and launcher, you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was interesting, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt for Sylvia during that time. It was difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to go like that with no sleep and be stressed

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<v Speaker 2>and all the anxiety around that, and then see how

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<v Speaker 2>you sort of down there playing games and having fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you watch the show while you were down there?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she says no, but I feel like she's hidden

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<v Speaker 2>cameras around this place. She's Polish, so I think I

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<v Speaker 2>like to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it came to the prices, right when you

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<v Speaker 1>were given that contract, how did that conversation happen with Sylvie?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it always a case of I finally been given

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<v Speaker 1>what I've always wanted. I'm going to take this, questions asked?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was there ever a case of maybe not doing

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<v Speaker 1>the prices right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, there was never that because my life was TV.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all I'd ever done. I couldn't do anything else,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she said, you want to go away and

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<v Speaker 2>get a job closer to home as a surveyor or

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<v Speaker 2>an engineer as well. There's nothing else in my life

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<v Speaker 2>that I've ever done or I could do, So there's

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<v Speaker 2>never a question of that. But it's just I had

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<v Speaker 2>to take the show because it was a huge show.

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<v Speaker 2>As you said, it was an enormous opportunity, and for

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<v Speaker 2>me to have a career in television or and entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>and to say no to that opportunity would have made

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<v Speaker 2>no sense at all. And it was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It was good.

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<v Speaker 2>That money was good. It gave us good lifestyle. I

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<v Speaker 2>have some nice house, It gave us all the good things.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you a real platform too, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's set us up for life basically. But at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all of that whittles itself down to screaming

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<v Speaker 2>sick kid at home, you know. But I couldn't leave

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<v Speaker 2>the prices, right. I don't think she would have wanted

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<v Speaker 2>me to not work. I don't think she would have

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be sitting around the house. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there was never.

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<v Speaker 4>A take care of two kids then, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was never a question of you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the culmination of everything I'd done for years and

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<v Speaker 2>years and years before.

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<v Speaker 4>And how long did you do prices right before? Because

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<v Speaker 4>your kids are what five years apart?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So I did price for I think four or

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<v Speaker 2>five years in the first block. Then I had a

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<v Speaker 2>break for a while, and then went back and did

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<v Speaker 2>it for another three or four years, then had a

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<v Speaker 2>break for ten years, went back and did it for

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<v Speaker 2>another year or so. It's been on and off, So

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<v Speaker 2>people think it's been on for twenty I've been on

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years because that run repeats like i'd finished.

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<v Speaker 3>Rare looks really young. What's his secret? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Those double breasted suits? Are they still live? So there

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<v Speaker 2>was this sort of perception that I was doing it

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<v Speaker 2>for ever and ever and ever, which was fine by

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<v Speaker 2>me as well. I mean, I'm very happy to be

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<v Speaker 2>that none as that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look back at those first few years being

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<v Speaker 1>very very difficult, was it always on the cards to

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<v Speaker 1>have too or did you guys come out of no no.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, no, no, no, no, no, no, Sylvie was

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<v Speaker 2>a flight a's in it and we were traveling all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place very cheaply or for free, and we

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<v Speaker 2>were love it, having this great lifestyle, right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we decided, that's so bloody selfish. And we got to

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<v Speaker 2>a point where I think all our friends who had

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<v Speaker 2>had kids were having other kids, and we thought, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've got to try try for another one,

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<v Speaker 2>another one. And we got a perfect little you know,

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<v Speaker 2>perfect little daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And did you find when you decided to have a

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<v Speaker 4>second child and you did have your second child, what

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<v Speaker 4>was your work life and family life then like different

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<v Speaker 4>to the first child?

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<v Speaker 3>You think?

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<v Speaker 2>So? I think we were probably better set up, like

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<v Speaker 2>we were in a comfortable so when Jie was born,

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<v Speaker 2>we were in an apartment on the top floor with

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<v Speaker 2>no lift.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this seven hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we'll work or coals would delivered to your doors, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I away. So we've got the baby and the

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<v Speaker 2>shopping and this and.

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<v Speaker 4>The you think, you know, there's that thing where it's

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<v Speaker 4>like you got to carry every grocery bag the one

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<v Speaker 4>tree like that we lack seven hundred steps to take sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>You leave one bag down there next time it's the frozen.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the next time we had a house,

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<v Speaker 2>we were more comfortable financially, We're in a better place

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<v Speaker 2>career wise, I was in a better place. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think all those things play into, you know, a comfortable,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say happier house, but just a

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<v Speaker 2>more settled house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, cool, do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? And we we spoke about this the other day

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<v Speaker 4>as well, that you sort of subconsciously with your second

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<v Speaker 4>child remember things and how to do things, and all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, you're way better than than you were

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<v Speaker 4>with your first trouble without even really thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think, like, we set out to have two

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<v Speaker 4>on stage, then we had one, and I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not doing that again. And then I had a second,

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<v Speaker 4>but so thankful had the second because I had a

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<v Speaker 4>girl second as well, and it was like, well, she's

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, you know, it's just like but it's also

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<v Speaker 2>down to.

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<v Speaker 4>That I'm much more patient and much more calm. Why

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<v Speaker 4>It's like I definitely don't get upset with her as

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<v Speaker 4>much as I would have with my son, because the

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<v Speaker 4>first one, you're just you're learning how to do it

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<v Speaker 4>as you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So after the first one where you said

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never doing that again. Was it because it was

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<v Speaker 2>just so hard for you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was, yeah, so hard, But it was sort

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<v Speaker 4>of like our story is sort of similar with Oscar

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<v Speaker 4>had silent reflux and forty minutes around the clocks and

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<v Speaker 4>really took a toll of my wife, which was the

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<v Speaker 4>hardest thing to watch that happen, and I think I

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<v Speaker 4>was just traumatized from that. I've never really spoken a

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<v Speaker 4>whole heap about it with Matt and Keish, but it

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<v Speaker 4>was sort of like, yeah, watching a shell of a

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<v Speaker 4>person that was my wife because of how hard that

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<v Speaker 4>time was, made me think I can't do that again.

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<v Speaker 4>Not for me, but I can't watch this happen again.

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<v Speaker 4>To her, she was adamant, she wanted the second one,

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<v Speaker 4>and then so obviously so glad that we did in

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<v Speaker 4>the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Also my thing for yourself, Larry, one of the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>things I'm assuming it was hard is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you're a new family. You know your wife is doing

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<v Speaker 1>her very best, but there's also that added pressure of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you know this notoriety right now is building.

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<v Speaker 1>You're becoming such a familiar face. How did you guys juggle.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it something that you guys found quite difficult?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean there was nothing that we ever had

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<v Speaker 2>to really focus on. Like I think Sylvia came into

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<v Speaker 2>my life where I'd been hosting TV for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're getting a bit of that anyway, So it

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<v Speaker 2>was all right too, you know, and we lived at

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<v Speaker 2>Bondai and we walk up.

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<v Speaker 3>And down in the front of WHO magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know your situation. You know that happens in

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<v Speaker 2>a short space of time, right, you go bang and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you're famous guy. But for me

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<v Speaker 2>back then, it was this slow crawl up and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get you're kind of you're kind of getting used

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Social media wasn't around, so it was really

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<v Speaker 2>just that face to face walking along Bondi Beach and

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<v Speaker 2>people saying nice things to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But how did the kids react when they're a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit older and you know, if you guys would go

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<v Speaker 1>out because I remember seeing you when I was younger

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<v Speaker 1>at Perisher and I remember thinking to myself, holy shit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Larry, And you know, I was like, do I

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<v Speaker 1>go up, do I say anything? But obviously so many

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<v Speaker 1>people will come up to you and speak to you

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<v Speaker 1>your kids, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Dag, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes sometimes it's okay and then sometimes it's less okay.

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<v Speaker 1>When is it not okay?

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<v Speaker 2>If you're having sort of a private ish moment, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like if you're trying to put the kid

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of the car and there's kicking a.

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<v Speaker 2>Screen, there's that they're sitting down at a nice restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>with Sylvie. That might not be okay. But now with

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<v Speaker 2>social media, everyone just wants you all the time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it wants a bit of that.

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<v Speaker 4>All of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no boundaries now, I find then you get the

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<v Speaker 2>strange people come out hiding their phone, going you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to sneak just say hi. It's a very

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<v Speaker 2>strange world.

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<v Speaker 4>I think like a lot of people can't pick up

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<v Speaker 4>on like you were saying, like you know, a personal moment.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people can't pick up on that personal

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<v Speaker 4>moment that you're having with your family to wait to

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<v Speaker 4>go okay, well there now they're walking back down you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Bondo Beach. Maybe now I can say hi, Larry, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I loved you on the prizes right, are you still

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<v Speaker 4>doing it?

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<v Speaker 3>Or come on down.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was sitting yesterday in a coffee shop in

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<v Speaker 2>Crown Street in Sydney with my daughter and was a

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<v Speaker 2>lovely day. We chose to sit outside. We only had

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<v Speaker 2>she had time for a coffee on a work break,

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<v Speaker 2>and we sat there and three four people stopped and

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<v Speaker 2>said start. I mean I should have sat on the street,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for that I wanted that time with her.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because one person stops, and then if someone

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<v Speaker 2>stopping and take yourself, you know, and then the next

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<v Speaker 2>person goes, oh's what's happening over?

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<v Speaker 3>It starts this.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing I created a So maybe you know, I should

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<v Speaker 2>have gone sit with tea for twenty minutes half an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we don't sit on the street on a nice day.

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<v Speaker 2>And most people are nice because the shows I've been

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<v Speaker 2>involved in Price is Right and Chase the Morning Show,

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<v Speaker 2>they're nice show so they're not a villain. So people

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<v Speaker 2>are just saying nice things. A guy the other day

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<v Speaker 2>walk past and goes, oh, you're a pisser, Carl, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, you.

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<v Speaker 3>A compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Eddie, I'm not I'm coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever have to have the conversation with your

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<v Speaker 1>kids and you know it's out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's been things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm a fucking big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Maddy's just gearing up because he's going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>have that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a thing. No, you know, it's been part of

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<v Speaker 2>their lives forever too, and it's okay, Like it's not bad,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's got me a place and a car,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's got you right here and here I am, here,

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<v Speaker 2>I am so you know, we live with it and

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<v Speaker 2>it's nice. An old TV executive one said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're on TV and people aren't wreckinging you, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when you've got a problem, not when they are recognize

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<v Speaker 2>you when they aren't. So okay, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>When you think back now all of those years being

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<v Speaker 1>a dad, what do you think is the hardest part.

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<v Speaker 3>Stumped him? Got him?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think I think it's in yourself. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's in yourself thinking am I doing this right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And constantly challenging so like what is right? Yeah, that's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that thought process one that's just reoccurring every single year?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like, you know, are you now at the point

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, do you know what I've done? A

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<v Speaker 1>good job?

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you both happily, it just goes from

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<v Speaker 2>one chapter to the next. So Tea is now engaged,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's totally consumed with the wedding. It eyes on

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<v Speaker 2>well on his career path. So we're talking about that

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. We've got our family dinner tonight, which

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<v Speaker 2>I love, and it's all about hearing from them, but

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<v Speaker 2>hearing them articulate things and face their challenges and get

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<v Speaker 2>better at things. That's you know, that's a beautiful thing

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<v Speaker 2>as well. But they're going through they have issues as

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<v Speaker 2>well all the time still, But luckily and with Sylvia

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel very grateful for this. They still come

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<v Speaker 2>to us for that, They lean on us. We're still

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<v Speaker 2>a close family.

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<v Speaker 3>And do you have a family dinner every week?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, this is the first one about a year.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, we do when we can. We actually, we

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<v Speaker 2>actually do when we can. I saw Tea yesterday. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>walk or train with Jai a couple of times a week.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're close.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the secret to having that closeness? I always think,

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<v Speaker 1>is it just the case of you know, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the door is always open. You know, I would

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<v Speaker 1>if they came to me with a problem, I would

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<v Speaker 1>never get.

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<v Speaker 3>We know what happens when your doors are open.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say that I think it was easier

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<v Speaker 2>to form these sorts of relationships before phones and laptops, tablets.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know when you see these families every night

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<v Speaker 2>at a restaurant, even down at the beach, and dad's

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone and Mum's on the phone and there,

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<v Speaker 2>So we didn't have that. You know, Jo and I

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<v Speaker 2>go for surf tea and I'd go for drive and

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<v Speaker 2>she loves antique shop, so we do this stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>we're not on the phones. So I think these relationships

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<v Speaker 2>were formed in a different time. But you see the

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<v Speaker 2>families now where everyone's on a different device doing different things.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no conversation, there's no engagement, there's no interaction. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you going to get from there to wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to go and spend an hour or two with your

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<v Speaker 2>kids just having a chat. And Jai and I can

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<v Speaker 2>do that any day the week, will go for like

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<v Speaker 2>an hour long walk or whatever and just talk the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time. And Tira and I will do the same,

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<v Speaker 2>go for a drive or go for coffee and without devices.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it was you know, the seeds were

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<v Speaker 2>planted at a different time.

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<v Speaker 4>For that, I think thinking back to my relationship with

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<v Speaker 4>my dad during the same time, and like we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have that technology for most of it, so we used

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<v Speaker 4>to serve every day.

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<v Speaker 3>We used to do that, like that was our thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I think as we both got older and

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<v Speaker 4>technology came into it, we are actually.

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<v Speaker 3>More distant than we ever have been.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have an older sister myself, and they have

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<v Speaker 4>a different relationship. But I've got one boy and one

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<v Speaker 4>girl as you do, Yeah, both very much into their

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<v Speaker 4>early adulthood. Do you feel you raise them any differently?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think there is obvious things?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think I did, And I haven't really

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<v Speaker 2>thought about this much, but just hearing yourself, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I did, and I think inherently you do. A different

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<v Speaker 2>relationships is your favorite? Next question, We're both my favorite,

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<v Speaker 2>but for completely different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's and this is the thing that they both have

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<v Speaker 2>these enormous strength and fantastic personalities, but they're completely different obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>So Ji, our relationship was you know, surfing and walking

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<v Speaker 2>on the beach together and doing all the fun that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of fun stuff. And then Tia and I had

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<v Speaker 2>a completely different relationship where she's very really really smart,

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<v Speaker 2>very very philosophical, you know, very philosophical, reads lots and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So our conversations are completely different. And she's a great debater,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm really loath to get into a heavy conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with her because she'll smack me down.

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<v Speaker 1>How was that with disciplining?

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<v Speaker 2>So classic classic family Sylvie very good at disciplining. Not sorry,

0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Sylvie tough, tough on her as her upbringing she was,

0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:11.760
<v Speaker 2>She's Polish and she was brought up in Poland, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think parenting changes greatly around the world, and the

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 2>way she was brought up was very, very different to

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the way I was brought up. And I was brought

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<v Speaker 2>up in this sort of happy, kind of carefree, surfy

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<v Speaker 2>family and whenever there was any sort of friction, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you left school at fifteen, Yeah at sixteen, right, yeah,

0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:33.200
<v Speaker 1>And were your parents like, yeah, that's fine.

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Well back in the day, that was kind of fine too,

0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.159
<v Speaker 2>like because you go off and do an apprenticeship, So

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.040
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't what it is today. It was like, you

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.159
<v Speaker 2>can leave school at sixteen if you've got an apprenticeship,

0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 2>which I didn't have. I was going to be a

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.600
<v Speaker 2>garbo because it was the best surfing shift. Yeah, for sure,

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I made the garbo. We started four o'clock, finished at

0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 2>eight thirty and go surfing all day. I'm like Ian

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.119
<v Speaker 2>to be a Garbo. So the situation with Jay was

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.720
<v Speaker 2>very different to the one with Tea, and from when

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.879
<v Speaker 2>it's your daughter involved, you move into this really protect

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 2>you kind of standover hover is everything okay? Are you okay?

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Are your friends okay? You know, it's a very different

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:08.879
<v Speaker 2>relationship to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that really early on with my daughter.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I definitely parent her differently. I'm very aware

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<v Speaker 4>of it, mainly because yet you put this protective front on,

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.679
<v Speaker 4>but I don't have that same protective front with Oscar

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<v Speaker 4>like my elder.

0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 3>It's more he'll be right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're sending him out to work, and is that

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 1>even for Yeah? Yeah, fact what everyone always says to

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.200
<v Speaker 1>me with Marley and Laura as well, like oh, when

0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 1>she starts dating, that's going to be tough, And I

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of laugh it off because for me that just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like an absolute lifetime away. Is that a really

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<v Speaker 1>tough time in their life? Yes?

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh great, No, it's not a tough time in their life.

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:51.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a tough time in the parents live. I think

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 2>because you want them to be safe and you want

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 2>them to be happy and.

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 3>All makes sensible decisions. You probably didn't make sensible decisions.

0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.879
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. And of course when I was

0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:02.680
<v Speaker 2>talking to the kids about school because I was kicked

0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 2>out of school when I was sixteen, Like, I'm like,

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 2>go to school and focus on your working like dad,

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 2>practice what you free? Yeah, back in the stupid corner, dad,

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the dating thing for Tea and she did

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge this now that I was Yeah, I was normal

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.120
<v Speaker 2>dad in that situation. And goodness, it wasn't. I mean,

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.159
<v Speaker 2>social media was around, it was early, it's not what

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 2>it is now. So I think that's a whole new ball.

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:27.240
<v Speaker 2>It's scary.

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<v Speaker 4>It scares the shit out of me. And make he's

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<v Speaker 4>only one and a half. Imagine one's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>like when she's it'll finish.

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 2>By then it'll be my fat Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bad.

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned she's engaged.

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it on par with looking at when she first

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<v Speaker 1>started dating versus when her boyfriend is coming to you

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 1>to ask to marry her? Is one easy than the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Easier because we knew him at this point, right, So

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 2>he knew him and we loved him. We love him,

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:58.959
<v Speaker 2>and he's fantastic and how he treats her and how

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<v Speaker 2>he adds to her life equally, they do it equally,

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.920
<v Speaker 2>but you can see as a couple of fantastic that's

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to meeting some kid from school. He goes,

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 2>how's this going to work out? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>he Roell is a lovely, lovely guy. And to see

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.159
<v Speaker 2>them in a relationship, you go, okay, that's meant you know,

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.639
<v Speaker 2>they're balanced, they're beautiful together. So that was different. And

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 2>when he you know, he asked me downstairs here we're

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 2>standing outside, did you know what was coming? We've been

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 2>out for dinner and we were walking them downstairs and

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 2>we were just getting something other garage. So Rose said

0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.480
<v Speaker 2>to you just to go up to the carr and dad.

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Your dad gets to me, and then he asked me.

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:41.679
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because all of my life I had all

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 2>these questions for the guy that would ask me this,

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 2>like what are your internships with them? Show me your

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>bank balance, what sort of cardio drive?

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 1>What happened did you?

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 2>And I cried, you know, it just straight away wow,

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 2>like a blubbering mess straight away, and it was it

0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 2>was a beautiful moment because you know when you see

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 2>daughter that happy, and you know, and they've been they've

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 2>lived in Bali for a year, so the relationship had

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>been well and truly tested, and it was a beautiful moment.

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's going, is that a yes, she's picking

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy. Yeah.

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 3>But that that was very very special.

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 2>And now we look forward to the next thing whatever,

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe that's grand children, you know whatever. We

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:25.520
<v Speaker 2>got the wedding and then that, so it just goes

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.639
<v Speaker 2>from one. The parenting thing just goes from one chapter

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 2>to the next.

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Har ending.

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<v Speaker 2>But is google now? Hey Siri, how will I be

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 2>a good granddad?

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about being your granddad? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>something you're really excited for?

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I don't want to preempt any not that

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's happening anytime soon, but I feel

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 2>like I'm too young to be a grandad. But I

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 2>also feel like i'd be a really cool granddad thell

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 2>come around, we'll play prices right games.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you're a granddad with tats as well.

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we wanted to ask you about your tats, so

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 4>you've got matching tat with Ji.

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so, and these are little things, you know, They're

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>just funny little things that over your life you pick

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>up and you run with. And we were at a

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 2>rowing carnival for Joe, he was a rollerback at school.

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.479
<v Speaker 2>We were walking along the pathway along the river. There

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 2>was another race going and there was a team coming

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>forth and their coach was riding next to them on

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 2>the path next to us, yelling out over the megaphone,

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.679
<v Speaker 2>come on boys, if not now when? And then then

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 2>they pulled up and they won the race. So j

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and I just adopted this if not now when thing.

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what we would always say to each other, whether

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>we're out surfing, or whether he's going for a job interview,

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>whether I'm going for a job interview, or any time.

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 2>So we went and got matching tattoos. If not now when?

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.479
<v Speaker 4>That's amazing, yeah, and it's very special to us.

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>And then when tears like not for me? So Tea

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 2>was always like, what tattoo are going to get for me?

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 2>What are you going to get for me? I'm like, well,

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 2>we don't have any of those sayings. So we came

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 2>up with her star sign that goes over eyes tattoo.

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's the waves of Aquarius going over the if

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>not now when? So I've got both my kids on

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 2>my heart. Yeah, shut Have you.

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Got your kids taed on you yet?

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I've got I've got one of them. I've got Marley

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>May's birthday which is just on my triceap and I

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>had every intention to get Lola's birthday, but been very busy.

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done it yet. Yeah, but you gave Macy

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>prime spot.

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<v Speaker 3>On prime spot that Yeah.

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 4>And then Oscar got my my arm. But he always

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.280
<v Speaker 4>like he always like points him out which one's me.

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that's sorry, mate, you're down here.

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 2>We can do your other one. Now we can do

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 2>a prison tat now if you do that. He's got

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 2>a sewing kid. I've got some innk we could.

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect to be getting tattoos and.

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Here we are.

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>But then you've also got the love heart with the

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>three hours.

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, I've got so love heart he with

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>the three arrows.

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>When did you get that?

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Well? I had the heart for a while and then

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I've got the three arrows a year or so ago

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>in Bali, and then on this arm, I've got like

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 2>a decorative S for Sylvie and then a sort of

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>a T and a J inside that, so they're all over.

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 2>They're all over.

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 3>There's no escape.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Cool granddad with all the tas, you're going to get

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 4>all your grandkids on you.

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 3>They might have heaps of kids and you're just covered in.

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've got to start back in the gym because

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Sylvie's saying they looked all right, but now they're just

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>all getting inside.

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Old Man's let her change.

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>When you look back at your years as a parent,

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's no answer to this question. It's going to

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>be very self critical. Do you ever think I really

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>wish I was better at this? Is there one part

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>of parenting where you think I wish I had done something? Lots?

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know lots. I wish I was smarter

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>so I could have helped at school. It's funny that

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was a dumbo at school and I

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>couldn't read all write, I couldn't add up. So the

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 2>kids out groomy in the smarts very quickly. You know,

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 2>they were coming to me with with homework at twelve

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 2>years old that I couldn't answer you. So I wish

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I was smarter for them. I wish I had more

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>intellectual input in what they were doing. But I think

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>I've been around a lot and I'm happy for that.

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 2>My work has been you know, it's either on or off.

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>But even with the morning show now for sixteen years,

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 2>i've been home for the school pickup. It's not an

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 2>early start, it's not the sunrise start. So I'm around

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot. And then there's been periods of three months

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>six months where I've been unemployed, so I've been present. Yeah,

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Sylvie would argue if I contributed anything during those days,

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 2>but I was here, you know what I was here.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 4>I was here and I was very much part of

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 4>their being present for sure.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so I got made to travel the

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 2>world all the time, and you know they'll see their

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>kids every second Wednesday and before I get on another

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>flight or other mates who go to work at six

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, come home at eight at night. Uggould

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 2>have the dinner and a beer and go to bed.

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Got nothing left, I.

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 4>Think, So it was changed so much of that too. Yeah,

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 4>for me, I had Oscar and COVID was before COVID,

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 4>and then COVID here and all of a sudden I

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 4>was home every day and spent so much time with

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 4>him in that that I think we, you know, bonded

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 4>so much over that. And now because the world is

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 4>different because of all that, I'm at home most of

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 4>the time working and you know, Macy's there one day

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 4>or because there another day, and it's like my dad

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 4>would have left to go to work, come home, have dinner,

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 4>and it would be I'd be in bed, you know.

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 3>So it's definitely changed so much. That's why he's being president.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 3>It's huge.

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So by hook or by crook, I mean some

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>of that presence was because I'd been asked and I

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a job, but it was good time at home.

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't regret that that time, and I think that's

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I was lucky like that. If I could do anything again,

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I wish I was smarter.

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 3>That's a good answer.

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I could have helped, you know, I could have helped

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>with that stuff. But I think the life lessons of

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the street smarts or the even being the fun dad,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I think is as its place.

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely sure, good answer. Like I mean, I left

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 4>school too when I was fifteen sixteen, and I can

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 4>tell already that my kids will out grow my smarts

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<v Speaker 4>very quickly, and that's you know, I'll be proud of that.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you've been able to provide street smarts and

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<v Speaker 4>other things that maybe that really smart book Dad couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have provided.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe well, you know, we'd get to a point where

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<v Speaker 2>Silvie go, can you help Joe with his homework? And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, but I can order the pizza like that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll hunt and gather. Yeah, can't we get a cheator?

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<v Speaker 1>The issue about interviewing Larry as our first guest is

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<v Speaker 1>that the bar has been set very hard to bloody high.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever comes in next, we'll be like, it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>quite as good as Larry.

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<v Speaker 2>Were going to put a spread on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can we also? Can we just say Hash messaged

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<v Speaker 1>you on on social media and we weren't quite sure

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<v Speaker 1>if you were going.

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<v Speaker 3>To reply, just a stab in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>We should be honest, shot our shot and we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think you were going to invite us to your place

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<v Speaker 1>because we said, he can we come to your apartment?

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<v Speaker 1>You've invited us in.

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<v Speaker 3>Two strangers into your house and we know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most beautiful spread also, so I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to say thank you so.

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<v Speaker 4>Much, thank you so much for having us and like,

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<v Speaker 4>we wanted to learn from Larry today and I've learned

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<v Speaker 4>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll hope the next house that you go to is

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<v Speaker 2>the house of a real dickhead and sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to come back for Larry. What else

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<v Speaker 1>can we love to day?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, for sure, so yeah, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You so much for having absolute pleasure guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And your book Happy Is Larry is still out now?

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<v Speaker 2>Still out now?

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<v Speaker 1>Where can I pick it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably in a two dollar clearance bin?

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<v Speaker 4>I imagine, na is that the sign copy or the unsigned?

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<v Speaker 1>It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you guys, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. If you're listening right now and you thought, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I quite enjoyed that episode and for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some advice that I can actually use my

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<v Speaker 1>own situation. We would love it if you gave us

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<v Speaker 1>a review five stars, maybe a few comments on Apple

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<v Speaker 1>Podcasts and give us a follow, and as well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you would like us to interview any other doting dads

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<v Speaker 1>in the country please, we would love to hear your

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<v Speaker 1>suggestions and we'll do our best to come to their

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<v Speaker 1>apartment and get them to put on a cheese board.

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<v Speaker 3>For Thank you for listening. Appreciate it and Larry, thank.

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<v Speaker 4>You so much for welcoming us in your house and

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<v Speaker 4>pleasure guys putting on a spread.

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<v Speaker 1>Love It. Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians

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<v Speaker 1>of country throughout Australia and the connections to land, sea

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<v Speaker 1>and community.

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<v Speaker 4>We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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<v Speaker 4>and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander

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<v Speaker 4>peoples today. This episode was recorded on Gadagal Land