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Speaker 1: Welcome to three doting Dads.

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Speaker 2: I am Maddie Jay, I'm Ash, I'm Larry with a

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Speaker 2: sock on my mic.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast all about parenting. It's the good,

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Speaker 1: the bad, relatable and if you've come for any type

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Speaker 1: of advice, I'm going to be stop you right now.

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Speaker 3: Although today might be different.

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Speaker 4: And we have Larry, and we've been pitching learn from

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Speaker 4: Larry all week.

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Speaker 3: Each other, like do you know what learn from Larry?

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Speaker 3: That'd be great.

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Speaker 1: People have been going to be so confused. Ye, if

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Speaker 1: you're coming for advice, sit down, attention, no distractions. But Larry,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to pash your ego right now for a second.

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Speaker 4: If I may, he's usually pashing mind, let me tighten

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Speaker 4: up my sock.

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Speaker 1: Look, when we think about dad who are successful, you

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Speaker 1: are at the top of that list. You've got a

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Speaker 1: beautiful wife that you were still madly in love with

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, see on social Instagram. Never lie, never, never, exactly.

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Speaker 1: You've got a very successful career right now, and more important,

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Speaker 1: when you say.

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Speaker 2: Right now always, it'll never end, it will never end.

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Speaker 1: And more importantly, you've got two beautiful children who not

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Speaker 1: only are very successful, but it seems like you're still

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Speaker 1: best friends with them. Yeah, what is the secret?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Tell us everything?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 2: I don't know? And I get asked that a lot too,

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Speaker 2: And I feel very blessed and very lucky. I think

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Speaker 2: most dads would say that about their kids. But I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I've just written a book recently where I

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Speaker 2: tried to work that out and I couldn't work it out.

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Speaker 2: It was nothing you always want. You want to be

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Speaker 2: a great dad, you want to be a great parent,

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Speaker 2: you want to be a role model, you want to

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Speaker 2: be helpful for the kids. But there's nothing that I did.

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Speaker 2: I didn't set off down a path of being I

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 4: Be great mate, going to be perfect, and it's just,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's just.

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Speaker 2: Worked out that one. I feel very lucky because I

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Speaker 2: know that's not everyone's story. I know that, but I

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Speaker 2: feel very lucky now that I'm best mates with my

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Speaker 2: son and best I was with my daughter yesterday and

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Speaker 2: they're older and they, you know, they've got every reason

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Speaker 4: Hang out with the Yeah, because your kids are similar

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Speaker 4: age to me. Really right, I'm thirty two.

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Speaker 3: I've had a sec to me.

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Speaker 4: Apparently that's young, but your son's thirty.

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Speaker 3: Twenty nine, twenty nine, how would you do it?

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Speaker 2: Twenty four?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so your son's really close to my age, and

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like you're coming out the back end

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Speaker 4: of what we're just really embarking on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've cross the finish line on that about

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Speaker 1: pretty much had to go into like a grandparenthood at

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Speaker 4: Ten years, right, And like for us, we've both got

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Speaker 4: that entry level. Yeah, sucked in, dad, Yeah, I was

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Speaker 4: going to invite you over to change and happy.

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Speaker 1: Let's start right back at the very beginning, right before

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Speaker 1: you have kids. You're expecting kids. Sylvie is pregnant, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this almost like it's in

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to blame that for the fact that

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Speaker 1: I didn't read any book or I went to one

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Speaker 1: birthday class. But what was it like for you when

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Speaker 1: you were expecting kids and how did you prepare?

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Speaker 2: Well, we had no electricity, so it was like you

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Speaker 2: had to light candles and no Netflix. There was no television.

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Speaker 2: Look at they were very different times. We didn't have

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Speaker 2: the resources. I think you're exactly right, the answers to

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Speaker 2: we had a great It wasn't that long ago, but

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Speaker 2: Oh so that was breaking leg running away from me.

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Speaker 2: Did I go to the classes maybe once or twice,

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Speaker 2: but I was working very very hard hosting the prices, right,

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Speaker 3: Well, said, I went to two of them.

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Speaker 4: There were eight hours long on a Saturday, the worst

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Speaker 4: And I don't think I learned anything well that I

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Speaker 3: Literally did a whole episode the other day on how YouTube.

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Speaker 4: Is the best parent because they, yeah, they pretty much

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Speaker 4: It's like back then, I don't know. I always it

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Speaker 1: Was it something that came easily?

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Speaker 2: It was okay, you know, it wasn't about Joie was

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Speaker 2: and I was traveling I was in Melbourne every second

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Speaker 2: So poor Sylvie here brokenly with a child who was

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Speaker 2: Interesting the challenge in that from a relationship perspective of course,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: I think at that time too, you kind of like, well,

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Speaker 1: But also the pressure as well, like the Price is

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Speaker 1: Right was just huge. It was one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was late twenties. I mean, it was nothing

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Speaker 3: But it was fun.

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Speaker 2: I was going to work to hang on last No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't hear this. Probably she will probably hear it.

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Speaker 2: I was going to work in playing games and from

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Speaker 3: It was interesting, you know.

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Speaker 2: I felt for Sylvia during that time. It was difficult

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Speaker 4: Did you watch the show while you were down there?

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Speaker 1: And I don't.

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Speaker 2: Like she says no, but I feel like she's hidden

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Speaker 1: So when it came to the prices, right when you

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Speaker 1: were given that contract, how did that conversation happen with Sylvie?

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Speaker 1: Was it always a case of I finally been given

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Speaker 1: Or was there ever a case of maybe not doing

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Speaker 2: No, No, there was never that because my life was TV.

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Speaker 2: It's all I'd ever done. I couldn't do anything else,

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Speaker 2: you know, she said, you want to go away and

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Speaker 2: an engineer as well. There's nothing else in my life

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Speaker 2: never a question of that. But it's just I had

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Speaker 2: As you said, it was an enormous opportunity, and for

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Speaker 2: and to say no to that opportunity would have made

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Speaker 3: It was good.

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Speaker 2: That money was good. It gave us good lifestyle. I

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Speaker 4: Have you a real platform too, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's set us up for life basically. But at the time,

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Speaker 2: the prices, right. I don't think she would have wanted

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Speaker 4: A take care of two kids then, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But there was never a question of you know, that

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Speaker 4: And how long did you do prices right before? Because

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Speaker 4: your kids are what five years apart?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I did price for I think four or

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Speaker 2: break for ten years, went back and did it for

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Speaker 2: another year or so. It's been on and off, So

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Speaker 2: people think it's been on for twenty I've been on

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Speaker 2: for twenty years because that run repeats like i'd finished.

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Speaker 3: Rare looks really young. What's his secret? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Those double breasted suits? Are they still live? So there

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Speaker 2: was this sort of perception that I was doing it

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Speaker 2: for ever and ever and ever, which was fine by

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Speaker 2: me as well. I mean, I'm very happy to be

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Speaker 2: that none as that guy.

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Speaker 1: When you look back at those first few years being

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Speaker 1: very very difficult, was it always on the cards to

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Speaker 1: have too or did you guys come out of no no.

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Speaker 2: In fact, no, no, no, no, no, no, Sylvie was

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Speaker 2: were love it, having this great lifestyle, right, and then

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Speaker 4: And then I think as we both got older and

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00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,720
Speaker 4: technology came into it, we are actually.

444
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 3: More distant than we ever have been.

445
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,639
Speaker 4: And I have an older sister myself, and they have

446
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,080
Speaker 4: a different relationship. But I've got one boy and one

447
00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 4: girl as you do, Yeah, both very much into their

448
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 4: early adulthood. Do you feel you raise them any differently?

449
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,920
Speaker 4: Do you think there is obvious things?

450
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I did, And I haven't really

451
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: thought about this much, but just hearing yourself, I think

452
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 2: I did, and I think inherently you do. A different

453
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 2: relationships is your favorite? Next question, We're both my favorite,

454
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 2: but for completely different reasons.

455
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:23,639
Speaker 1: You know.

456
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 2: It's and this is the thing that they both have

457
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: these enormous strength and fantastic personalities, but they're completely different obviously.

458
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 2: So Ji, our relationship was you know, surfing and walking

459
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 2: on the beach together and doing all the fun that

460
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 2: sort of fun stuff. And then Tia and I had

461
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 2: a completely different relationship where she's very really really smart,

462
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 2: very very philosophical, you know, very philosophical, reads lots and stuff.

463
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,959
Speaker 2: So our conversations are completely different. And she's a great debater,

464
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 2: so I'm really loath to get into a heavy conversation

465
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 2: with her because she'll smack me down.

466
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 1: How was that with disciplining?

467
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 2: So classic classic family Sylvie very good at disciplining. Not sorry,

468
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 2: Sylvie tough, tough on her as her upbringing she was,

469
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 2: She's Polish and she was brought up in Poland, and

470
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 2: I think parenting changes greatly around the world, and the

471
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: way she was brought up was very, very different to

472
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: the way I was brought up. And I was brought

473
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 2: up in this sort of happy, kind of carefree, surfy

474
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 2: family and whenever there was any sort of friction, which.

475
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you left school at fifteen, Yeah at sixteen, right, yeah,

476
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 1: And were your parents like, yeah, that's fine.

477
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 2: Well back in the day, that was kind of fine too,

478
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 2: like because you go off and do an apprenticeship, So

479
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't what it is today. It was like, you

480
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 2: can leave school at sixteen if you've got an apprenticeship,

481
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: which I didn't have. I was going to be a

482
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: garbo because it was the best surfing shift. Yeah, for sure,

483
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 2: I made the garbo. We started four o'clock, finished at

484
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: eight thirty and go surfing all day. I'm like Ian

485
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 2: to be a Garbo. So the situation with Jay was

486
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 2: very different to the one with Tea, and from when

487
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 2: it's your daughter involved, you move into this really protect

488
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 2: you kind of standover hover is everything okay? Are you okay?

489
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: Are your friends okay? You know, it's a very different

490
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 2: relationship to that.

491
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that really early on with my daughter.

492
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 4: I think I definitely parent her differently. I'm very aware

493
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 4: of it, mainly because yet you put this protective front on,

494
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 4: but I don't have that same protective front with Oscar

495
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 4: like my elder.

496
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: It's more he'll be right.

497
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're sending him out to work, and is that

498
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: even for Yeah? Yeah, fact what everyone always says to

499
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: me with Marley and Laura as well, like oh, when

500
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: she starts dating, that's going to be tough, And I

501
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: kind of laugh it off because for me that just

502
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: feels like an absolute lifetime away. Is that a really

503
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: tough time in their life? Yes?

504
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh great, No, it's not a tough time in their life.

505
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 2: It's a tough time in the parents live. I think

506
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: because you want them to be safe and you want

507
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: them to be happy and.

508
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 3: All makes sensible decisions. You probably didn't make sensible decisions.

509
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. And of course when I was

510
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: talking to the kids about school because I was kicked

511
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: out of school when I was sixteen, Like, I'm like,

512
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: go to school and focus on your working like dad,

513
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: practice what you free? Yeah, back in the stupid corner, dad,

514
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, the dating thing for Tea and she did

515
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: knowledge this now that I was Yeah, I was normal

516
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 2: dad in that situation. And goodness, it wasn't. I mean,

517
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: social media was around, it was early, it's not what

518
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: it is now. So I think that's a whole new ball.

519
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: It's scary.

520
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 4: It scares the shit out of me. And make he's

521
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 4: only one and a half. Imagine one's going to be

522
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 4: like when she's it'll finish.

523
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: By then it'll be my fat Yeah.

524
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, bad.

525
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: You mentioned she's engaged.

526
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: Now.

527
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: Is it on par with looking at when she first

528
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: started dating versus when her boyfriend is coming to you

529
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: to ask to marry her? Is one easy than the other.

530
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: Easier because we knew him at this point, right, So

531
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: he knew him and we loved him. We love him,

532
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 2: and he's fantastic and how he treats her and how

533
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: he adds to her life equally, they do it equally,

534
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: but you can see as a couple of fantastic that's

535
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: as opposed to meeting some kid from school. He goes,

536
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: how's this going to work out? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but

537
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: he Roell is a lovely, lovely guy. And to see

538
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: them in a relationship, you go, okay, that's meant you know,

539
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: they're balanced, they're beautiful together. So that was different. And

540
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: when he you know, he asked me downstairs here we're

541
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: standing outside, did you know what was coming? We've been

542
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: out for dinner and we were walking them downstairs and

543
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: we were just getting something other garage. So Rose said

544
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: to you just to go up to the carr and dad.

545
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 2: Your dad gets to me, and then he asked me.

546
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 2: It's funny because all of my life I had all

547
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: these questions for the guy that would ask me this,

548
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: like what are your internships with them? Show me your

549
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: bank balance, what sort of cardio drive?

550
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: What happened did you?

551
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 2: And I cried, you know, it just straight away wow,

552
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: like a blubbering mess straight away, and it was it

553
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 2: was a beautiful moment because you know when you see

554
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: daughter that happy, and you know, and they've been they've

555
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: lived in Bali for a year, so the relationship had

556
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: been well and truly tested, and it was a beautiful moment.

557
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

558
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's going, is that a yes, she's picking

559
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah.

560
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 3: But that that was very very special.

561
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: And now we look forward to the next thing whatever,

562
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: you know, maybe that's grand children, you know whatever. We

563
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: got the wedding and then that, so it just goes

564
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: from one. The parenting thing just goes from one chapter

565
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: to the next.

566
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: Har ending.

567
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: But is google now? Hey Siri, how will I be

568
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: a good granddad?

569
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: How do you feel about being your granddad? Is that

570
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: something you're really excited for?

571
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't want to preempt any not that

572
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that's happening anytime soon, but I feel

573
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: like I'm too young to be a grandad. But I

574
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: also feel like i'd be a really cool granddad thell

575
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: come around, we'll play prices right games.

576
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: But also you're a granddad with tats as well.

577
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we wanted to ask you about your tats, so

578
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: you've got matching tat with Ji.

579
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: Yes, so, and these are little things, you know, They're

580
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: just funny little things that over your life you pick

581
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: up and you run with. And we were at a

582
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: rowing carnival for Joe, he was a rollerback at school.

583
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 2: We were walking along the pathway along the river. There

584
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: was another race going and there was a team coming

585
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: forth and their coach was riding next to them on

586
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: the path next to us, yelling out over the megaphone,

587
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 2: come on boys, if not now when? And then then

588
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: they pulled up and they won the race. So j

589
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: and I just adopted this if not now when thing.

590
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: That's what we would always say to each other, whether

591
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: we're out surfing, or whether he's going for a job interview,

592
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: whether I'm going for a job interview, or any time.

593
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: So we went and got matching tattoos. If not now when?

594
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 4: That's amazing, yeah, and it's very special to us.

595
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: And then when tears like not for me? So Tea

596
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: was always like, what tattoo are going to get for me?

597
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: What are you going to get for me? I'm like, well,

598
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 2: we don't have any of those sayings. So we came

599
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: up with her star sign that goes over eyes tattoo.

600
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: So it's the waves of Aquarius going over the if

601
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: not now when? So I've got both my kids on

602
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: my heart. Yeah, shut Have you.

603
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: Got your kids taed on you yet?

604
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: I've got I've got one of them. I've got Marley

605
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: May's birthday which is just on my triceap and I

606
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: had every intention to get Lola's birthday, but been very busy.

607
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet. Yeah, but you gave Macy

608
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: prime spot.

609
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: On prime spot that Yeah.

610
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: And then Oscar got my my arm. But he always

611
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 4: like he always like points him out which one's me.

612
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's sorry, mate, you're down here.

613
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: We can do your other one. Now we can do

614
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: a prison tat now if you do that. He's got

615
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: a sewing kid. I've got some innk we could.

616
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to be getting tattoos and.

617
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: Here we are.

618
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: But then you've also got the love heart with the

619
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: three hours.

620
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I've got so love heart he with

621
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: the three arrows.

622
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: When did you get that?

623
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: Well? I had the heart for a while and then

624
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: I've got the three arrows a year or so ago

625
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: in Bali, and then on this arm, I've got like

626
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: a decorative S for Sylvie and then a sort of

627
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: a T and a J inside that, so they're all over.

628
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: They're all over.

629
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: There's no escape.

630
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: Cool granddad with all the tas, you're going to get

631
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: all your grandkids on you.

632
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: They might have heaps of kids and you're just covered in.

633
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: Well, I've got to start back in the gym because

634
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: Sylvie's saying they looked all right, but now they're just

635
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: all getting inside.

636
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: Old Man's let her change.

637
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: When you look back at your years as a parent,

638
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: maybe there's no answer to this question. It's going to

639
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: be very self critical. Do you ever think I really

640
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: wish I was better at this? Is there one part

641
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: of parenting where you think I wish I had done something? Lots?

642
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you know lots. I wish I was smarter

643
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: so I could have helped at school. It's funny that

644
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: I was. I was a dumbo at school and I

645
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: couldn't read all write, I couldn't add up. So the

646
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: kids out groomy in the smarts very quickly. You know,

647
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: they were coming to me with with homework at twelve

648
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: years old that I couldn't answer you. So I wish

649
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: I was smarter for them. I wish I had more

650
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: intellectual input in what they were doing. But I think

651
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: I've been around a lot and I'm happy for that.

652
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: My work has been you know, it's either on or off.

653
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: But even with the morning show now for sixteen years,

654
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: i've been home for the school pickup. It's not an

655
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: early start, it's not the sunrise start. So I'm around

656
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: a lot. And then there's been periods of three months

657
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: six months where I've been unemployed, so I've been present. Yeah,

658
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: Sylvie would argue if I contributed anything during those days,

659
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: but I was here, you know what I was here.

660
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: I was here and I was very much part of

661
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 4: their being present for sure.

662
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so I got made to travel the

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Speaker 2: world all the time, and you know they'll see their

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Speaker 2: kids every second Wednesday and before I get on another

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Speaker 2: flight or other mates who go to work at six

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Speaker 2: in the morning, come home at eight at night. Uggould

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Speaker 2: have the dinner and a beer and go to bed.

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Speaker 2: Got nothing left, I.

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Speaker 4: Think, So it was changed so much of that too. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: for me, I had Oscar and COVID was before COVID,

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Speaker 4: and then COVID here and all of a sudden I

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Speaker 4: was home every day and spent so much time with

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Speaker 4: him in that that I think we, you know, bonded

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Speaker 4: so much over that. And now because the world is

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Speaker 4: different because of all that, I'm at home most of

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Speaker 4: the time working and you know, Macy's there one day

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Speaker 4: or because there another day, and it's like my dad

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Speaker 4: would have left to go to work, come home, have dinner,

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Speaker 4: and it would be I'd be in bed, you know.

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Speaker 3: So it's definitely changed so much. That's why he's being president.

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Speaker 3: It's huge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So by hook or by crook, I mean some

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Speaker 2: of that presence was because I'd been asked and I

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Speaker 2: didn't have a job, but it was good time at home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't regret that that time, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: I was lucky like that. If I could do anything again,

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Speaker 2: I wish I was smarter.

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Speaker 3: That's a good answer.

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Speaker 2: I could have helped, you know, I could have helped

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Speaker 2: with that stuff. But I think the life lessons of

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Speaker 2: the street smarts or the even being the fun dad,

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Speaker 2: I think is as its place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely sure, good answer. Like I mean, I left

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Speaker 4: school too when I was fifteen sixteen, and I can

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Speaker 4: tell already that my kids will out grow my smarts

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Speaker 4: very quickly, and that's you know, I'll be proud of that.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you've been able to provide street smarts and

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Speaker 4: other things that maybe that really smart book Dad couldn't

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Speaker 4: have provided.

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Speaker 2: Maybe well, you know, we'd get to a point where

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Speaker 2: Silvie go, can you help Joe with his homework? And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, no, but I can order the pizza like that,

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Speaker 2: I'll hunt and gather. Yeah, can't we get a cheator?

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Speaker 1: The issue about interviewing Larry as our first guest is

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Speaker 1: that the bar has been set very hard to bloody high.

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Speaker 1: Whoever comes in next, we'll be like, it's just not

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Speaker 1: quite as good as Larry.

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Speaker 2: Were going to put a spread on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can we also? Can we just say Hash messaged

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Speaker 1: you on on social media and we weren't quite sure

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Speaker 1: if you were going.

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Speaker 3: To reply, just a stab in the dark.

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Speaker 1: We should be honest, shot our shot and we didn't

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Speaker 1: think you were going to invite us to your place

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Speaker 1: because we said, he can we come to your apartment?

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Speaker 1: You've invited us in.

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Speaker 3: Two strangers into your house and we know each other.

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Speaker 1: This is the most beautiful spread also, so I just

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Speaker 1: want to say thank you so.

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Speaker 4: Much, thank you so much for having us and like,

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Speaker 4: we wanted to learn from Larry today and I've learned

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Speaker 4: so much.

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Speaker 2: We'll hope the next house that you go to is

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Speaker 2: the house of a real dickhead and sad.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to come back for Larry. What else

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Speaker 1: can we love to day?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, for sure, so yeah, thank.

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Speaker 2: You so much for having absolute pleasure guys.

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Speaker 1: And your book Happy Is Larry is still out now?

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Speaker 2: Still out now?

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Speaker 1: Where can I pick it up?

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Speaker 2: Probably in a two dollar clearance bin?

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Speaker 4: I imagine, na is that the sign copy or the unsigned?

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Speaker 1: It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you guys, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. If you're listening right now and you thought, hey,

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Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed that episode and for the first time,

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Speaker 1: I've got some advice that I can actually use my

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Speaker 1: own situation. We would love it if you gave us

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Speaker 1: a review five stars, maybe a few comments on Apple

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Speaker 1: Podcasts and give us a follow, and as well, if

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Speaker 1: you would like us to interview any other doting dads

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Speaker 1: in the country please, we would love to hear your

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Speaker 1: suggestions and we'll do our best to come to their

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Speaker 1: apartment and get them to put on a cheese board.

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Speaker 3: For Thank you for listening. Appreciate it and Larry, thank.

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Speaker 4: You so much for welcoming us in your house and

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Speaker 4: pleasure guys putting on a spread.

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Speaker 1: Love It. Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians

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Speaker 1: of country throughout Australia and the connections to land, sea

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Speaker 1: and community.

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Speaker 4: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 4: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander

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Speaker 4: peoples today. This episode was recorded on Gadagal Land