Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reloaded podcast last week. I'm I, how would I
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Speaker 2: The hack producer me says one hundred percent put him in.
Speaker 1: Thanks your welcome back guys to TV Reload. My name's
Speaker 1: Benjamin Norris and on this podcast, I go behind the
Speaker 1: scenes with the biggest players in television.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great questions. The show's about the game. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of great television out there in Australia.
Speaker 1: But I've also got to go behind the scenes with writers.
Speaker 1: The truth is, when I started writing it, it wasn't
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the news and casting agents.
Speaker 2: They know from a casting point of view what they need.
Speaker 1: And editors because that's what we do as editors where storytellers.
Speaker 1: Not to forget some incredible executive producers who are making
Speaker 1: some of the best TV in Australia.
Speaker 3: I have been on the program since the beginning and
Speaker 3: it's kind of in my DNA.
Speaker 1: So thanks for joining me each week and I hope
Speaker 1: the podcast continues to give you real insight into the
Speaker 1: magic of television today. On the podcast, I have one
Speaker 1: of my favorite housewives from the latest series of the
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Melbourne, it's Simone Elliott. We have come
Speaker 1: to the end of yet another series with only the
Speaker 1: finale left. As we as an audience have well and
Speaker 1: truly picked our sides over the most explosive divide ever
Speaker 1: seen on the Melbourne franchise. Simona's laughed, cried and stood
Speaker 1: up for herself and one over the fashion world of
Speaker 1: Australian audiences. The blonde bombshell has walked away with legions
Speaker 1: of fans and if there's to be another series, already
Speaker 1: audiences are begging for her return. We talk tantrums, female
Speaker 1: relationships and all the inside goss from behind the scenes
Speaker 1: of this year's drama. I actually can't believe how much
Speaker 1: tea this housewife managed to spill. I think it has
Speaker 1: to be a record. However, let's get started with today's episode.
Speaker 1: I'd like to welcome Simone Elliott to this week's TV reload.
Speaker 2: I think I was able to maintain Extackley, who I was.
Speaker 3: Kick your standards high and your stiletto's higher. The cameras
Speaker 3: don't lie. Everything that comes out of your mouth is
Speaker 3: what you say.
Speaker 4: It's been a long time since we followed the lives
Speaker 4: of our Melbourne housewives.
Speaker 2: I'm not naturally a confrontational person.
Speaker 4: Four new ladies arrived to shake things up.
Speaker 3: I don't hold anything against these girls, even though they've
Speaker 3: said some horrendous things.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that conversation did not happen.
Speaker 3: I can't confirm what's happened with her from a contractual perspective.
Speaker 1: Hi, Simone, how are you.
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm very good. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on surviving your first series of housewives.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: It certainly has been a wild rush and sometimes I
Speaker 3: don't even know how to explain it.
Speaker 2: It certainly has been an interesting experience.
Speaker 1: Well, there's no preparation for really doing reality television. But
Speaker 1: when I met you at the launch, so you hadn't
Speaker 1: filmed anything yet, I really thought you had the biggest
Speaker 1: X factor out of all of the new girls. But
Speaker 1: do you remember what you said to me?
Speaker 3: No, I was like a deer in headlines that day
Speaker 3: because I remember getting up on stage and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, the entire room for the media. I'm
Speaker 3: not media trained, I'm not an actress. I haven't been
Speaker 3: to nighter and I thought, my god, like I present
Speaker 3: for work. But that's a business environment, right, So you'll
Speaker 3: have to tell me. I have no idea what I
Speaker 3: said to you.
Speaker 1: You were going to be talking business and real things,
Speaker 1: and you're going to be real on the show, and
Speaker 1: that you won't get caught up in any of the gossip.
Speaker 1: That was what you said. How do you think you
Speaker 1: went with that?
Speaker 3: Look I'm looking back on, I think the main bulk
Speaker 3: of the episodes, I think I was able to maintain
Speaker 3: exactly who I was, which I think is really interesting
Speaker 3: because a lot of the girls go, I've been edited
Speaker 3: or reality TV is and what you think it is.
Speaker 3: I think it's a really interesting self reflection on yourself
Speaker 3: because the cameras don't lie.
Speaker 2: Everything that comes out of your mouth is what you say.
Speaker 3: And so I was represented exactly how I am in
Speaker 3: my life. Like I cried, I stood up for myself
Speaker 3: when I needed to. I shut the hell up when
Speaker 3: I needed to. But in terms of the drama, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not naturally a confrontational person, like I know, going
Speaker 3: for a fight. I won't meet you and judge you
Speaker 3: and fight you. However, given the circumstances, I will stand
Speaker 3: up for myself and I will stand up for the
Speaker 3: people around me that I think if the situation requires it.
Speaker 3: My thoughts on Cherry at this point is I need
Speaker 3: to understand why she behaved and erupted so emotionally yesterday
Speaker 3: or was there other things that were actually driving her
Speaker 3: to behave in such an extreme manner and cry and
Speaker 3: leave the table or did I just really piss her off?
Speaker 3: So that was one of the things when I joined Housewives,
Speaker 3: you know, they put you through all these rigorous conversations
Speaker 3: and interviews and they said, you have to have a backbone.
Speaker 3: You can't come into this group of women and just
Speaker 3: be like, Ah, I can't do this. You have to
Speaker 3: be able to say your peace, otherwise you just you're
Speaker 3: not going to survive.
Speaker 1: It is very much a mirror and for a lot
Speaker 1: of people going on telling they have a disconnect like
Speaker 1: how people perceive them, and so they say, oh, the
Speaker 1: edit was really weird. But what they don't realize is
Speaker 1: that's who they really are in real life, and.
Speaker 2: That was what's really interesting.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter what your close girlfriends think of you,
Speaker 3: or your bestie loves you to death. At the end
Speaker 3: of the day, what you represent is entirely up to
Speaker 3: the fans and the viewers of the show, and they're
Speaker 3: going to make their opinions on you based on how
Speaker 3: you behave and how you respond to certain conversations. And
Speaker 3: I just think the psychology of the dynamics that in
Speaker 3: itself I found really extraordinary, because on my day to
Speaker 3: day I probably deal with men more than I do
Speaker 3: with women, and so that dynamic of women and the
Speaker 3: way they speak to each other, all, particularly these scrupule women.
Speaker 3: I'm literally in shock about the way that they conduct
Speaker 3: themselves and speak to each other.
Speaker 1: How much of the experience was like what you thought
Speaker 1: it was going to be.
Speaker 3: Like I used to watch all the franchises, so you know,
Speaker 3: I used to watch Melbourne, I watched the Sydney one,
Speaker 3: which was a car crash. I've watched Beverly Hills probably
Speaker 3: since the beginning. So I walked into this with my
Speaker 3: eyes wide open. I knew that it was extremely polarizing.
Speaker 3: I knew that there was going to be arguments, one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. You can't put that many different personalities in
Speaker 3: an enfined environment and not expect sparks to buy. Having
Speaker 3: said that, there were so many times that I was
Speaker 3: extremely nervous and I think in the early days, I
Speaker 3: don't know if you picked up on that, but I'd
Speaker 3: go into situations I thought, my god, these women, the
Speaker 3: way they're firing up. It made me anxious and made
Speaker 3: me anxious at the level of that these conversations went
Speaker 3: to and the insults that were being thrown at me.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the time i'd come to
Speaker 3: a situation I was trying to be quite level headed,
Speaker 3: and then some of the girls were just throwing insults
Speaker 3: at me, and like, did I ever put you down?
Speaker 3: Did I discredit you? Did I ever pick on what
Speaker 3: you look like? Or you'll figure? Or I've been called
Speaker 3: everything from the barbie to shallow else has been in there. Oh,
Speaker 3: she studied in MBA, but you know she must have
Speaker 3: had memory loss. So I'm like, I have never ever
Speaker 3: attacked a woman on their you know, their intelligence, their figure,
Speaker 3: what they wear, their weight, And yet those topics were
Speaker 3: certainly quite prevalent through the film.
Speaker 5: What she's on about is so ridiculous and so minute
Speaker 5: and so vapid that if I were to apologize, it's
Speaker 5: rewarding her shallowness.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I interviewed the executive producers of the show just before
Speaker 1: the show launched, and one of the ladies was talking
Speaker 1: to me and said, you had the best fashion this year,
Speaker 1: so that's a good thing. But also she said that
Speaker 1: you took probably the longest to warm up, that there
Speaker 1: was a sense of hesitation with the way in which
Speaker 1: you were to begin with. Is that sort of how
Speaker 1: is that how it was for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there was a couple of reasons for that.
Speaker 3: I think I didn't go into this going I want
Speaker 3: to be the famous one.
Speaker 2: I want to be Gina. I want to take over,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 3: Think if you watch they are some of the other girls,
Speaker 3: I think that's what they were after.
Speaker 2: And she was so iconic.
Speaker 3: When Gina was retiring and then I was announced, I thought,
Speaker 3: oh god, pressure because she was such a loved being character.
Speaker 3: So I never went into this going I want to
Speaker 3: be the star. I thought, I've got to learn the ropes.
Speaker 3: I've got to learn from Janet Gamble and Jackie, and
Speaker 3: this is my year to really understand how it works.
Speaker 2: So that was kind of the first thing my apprehensions.
Speaker 3: I probably think early on when I was filming, was
Speaker 3: at a corporate career, a senior management level, and I
Speaker 3: don't want people to think that I'm this psycho crazy
Speaker 3: bitch because I've got to manage people, I've got to
Speaker 3: manage budgets. And I was very early on I was
Speaker 3: very conscious about my behavior given that the job I
Speaker 3: have in the background. So there was that, and then
Speaker 3: the final part of it was I had just gone
Speaker 3: through a horrendous breakup pretty much a week before I
Speaker 3: met you guys at the Megna launch, and it was
Speaker 3: seven and a half years of my life and I
Speaker 3: was engaged, and the flow on effect of that has
Speaker 3: actually hit me most of this year. And whilst I
Speaker 3: was kind of presenting a very polished version of myself
Speaker 3: and I dialed up the fashion and the looks, in
Speaker 3: the background, I was grieving the breakdown of that and
Speaker 3: everything that went with it. So there were moments like
Speaker 3: if you look at the graduation dinner when Angelie was
Speaker 3: being extremely rude to me and condescending, and you watched
Speaker 3: my face and I've got this a lot of emotion.
Speaker 3: I'm watching myself back and I'm like, I look so
Speaker 3: disappointed and so upset.
Speaker 5: What do I eat an apology for my Dollie.
Speaker 3: That whole situation between Cherry and I would have been alleviated.
Speaker 3: If I had a chance to speak to Cherry and
Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance to do that.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I like prostrate on the ground before us.
Speaker 5: The mood.
Speaker 3: Not only was I dealing with that situation, but in
Speaker 3: the background, I was dealing with colored relationship stuff as well.
Speaker 3: So I was watching my face back and say, oh
Speaker 3: my god, that's so comes through on screen just this look.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm dealing with this woman who refuses
Speaker 3: to apologize. Yet in the background, I'm dealing with a
Speaker 3: whole lot of other emotional baggage.
Speaker 1: But at the same time that once you eased into it,
Speaker 1: your emotions and your reactions earnest and honestly was what
Speaker 1: resonated with the audience. Relaxing into yourself became what people
Speaker 1: loved you for. I guess it is a little bit
Speaker 1: of that sort of teething process. I have to ask,
Speaker 1: how did you get cast? Because I'd heard that you
Speaker 1: were nearly cast in that ill fated series. You know,
Speaker 1: you were quite close to being a part of that cast,
Speaker 1: and then something something must have happened. Why weren't you
Speaker 1: in that original lineup?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I've been talking, probably talking to these guys
Speaker 3: for a while there. There's a lot of things that
Speaker 3: happened in my relationship back in twenty nineteen, and I
Speaker 3: probably didn't have the confidence to put myself out there.
Speaker 3: That's twenty twenty one now, and now I've got probably
Speaker 3: more confidence to put myself out there and take on
Speaker 3: challenges that I didn't do before.
Speaker 1: So if they roll into series six, which is what
Speaker 1: people were talking about now that you know there might
Speaker 1: be a series six, are you already attached or are
Speaker 1: you looking forward to doing it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What can you say about a possible series six for you?
Speaker 3: You know, despite what some of the other girls have
Speaker 3: been saying, and I say this with absolute honesty, I
Speaker 3: had a really good experience with the cast and crew
Speaker 3: of Housewives. I had a ball, you know. It took
Speaker 3: me out of my comfort zone. It pushed me into
Speaker 3: areas on screen that I probably wouldn't have done before.
Speaker 3: I had so much fun with my glam team on
Speaker 3: the looks. We were curating everything for everything.
Speaker 2: I had my hair chopped off to here, I had
Speaker 2: it down my back like I had a ball, right.
Speaker 3: I think if I did get cast to come back
Speaker 3: for next year, all that baggage side of my life
Speaker 3: is can't park now, so I'll be able to open
Speaker 3: up more and share more about who I am in
Speaker 3: my life, which would be great. I have so many
Speaker 3: women reach out to me after showing the charity work
Speaker 3: I do with Fit of Work, saying so more and
Speaker 3: how do you do it all?
Speaker 2: You're such an inspiration.
Speaker 3: You've got the kids, you've been studying, you've got your
Speaker 3: full on work and you seem to sort of pulled together.
Speaker 3: I really want to continue on that theme and show
Speaker 3: like a positive role model for women in Australia that
Speaker 3: you can do it all.
Speaker 2: You just can't do it all at the same time,
Speaker 2: and you don't need to be a me.
Speaker 1: You don't have to pull people aside and make comments
Speaker 1: about people that you don't know very well. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was the thing that was strange for me, and
Speaker 1: the backlash again some of the other women because of that,
Speaker 1: I think has been the real reason as to why
Speaker 1: they've had a bad time on the show. Like, you
Speaker 1: can't go to a party and act like a fool
Speaker 1: and then play the victim afterwards. It doesn't work like that.
Speaker 3: A hand grenade's thrown and then I'm out of here.
Speaker 3: You know. It was like a stand up say your
Speaker 3: piece and own it and back yourself and you know what,
Speaker 3: and if you have to, if you have to say
Speaker 3: you've done the wrong thing, just say it.
Speaker 1: People are forgiving, you know. I've heard that the reunion
Speaker 1: is canceled and that we won't see a reunion that
Speaker 1: we have seen in previous seasons. What's happening with the reunion?
Speaker 1: Is it happening?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, but I've got things to say,
Speaker 3: so replays have Maybe we can organize our own if
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we should. I think we'll get all
Speaker 1: the girls together. But has Foxtel told you is there
Speaker 1: going to be a reunion? So there's nothing in the
Speaker 1: calendar for you.
Speaker 2: I can tell you. Now, let me let me tell
Speaker 2: you what it's like working this on the show.
Speaker 3: Half the time I get in the car, I get
Speaker 3: told to be dressed a certain way, but I'm not.
Speaker 2: Telling you where you're going.
Speaker 3: And I'm not someone that I'm quite organized, and I
Speaker 3: don't deal with this very well.
Speaker 2: So half the time I don't even know where I'm going.
Speaker 3: What I'm walking into. You'll probably find out before me.
Speaker 1: Who do you think was the biggest drama Queen because
Speaker 1: now that I've finished it, you know, we've got the
Speaker 1: finale coming up this week. But I kind of feel
Speaker 1: like Kyler has come across like the villain of the series, Like,
Speaker 1: who do you think is the biggest drama Queen was?
Speaker 3: Kyla had no problem inserting herself into conversations, and even
Speaker 3: when I kind of said to her, you should back
Speaker 3: out of this one, she just got this. When you
Speaker 3: spend time with her, she got this high need for control,
Speaker 3: and I think she has it in her personal life.
Speaker 2: She had definitely had it in this show. I mean,
Speaker 2: you saw her with the mixologist at the fling this weekend.
Speaker 3: She was right in there, She's telling the bloke what
Speaker 3: to do, and I'm like, she really wanted to be
Speaker 3: part of these conversations.
Speaker 2: But she also kind of directed the narrative with some
Speaker 2: of the girls as well. It was interesting for her
Speaker 2: to be around because she's actually a really fun girl.
Speaker 3: She's actually really fun to be around, but she's also
Speaker 3: got this high need for control, so she was definitely
Speaker 3: in control of.
Speaker 2: The drama this season.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jackie was heavily pregnant and had psiotica, so
Speaker 3: we had to keep an eye on.
Speaker 2: Her and make sure that she was calm.
Speaker 3: You know, she's carrying twins, and Gamble's just hilarious. She
Speaker 3: just makes fun and large of everything that happens.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I suppose.
Speaker 3: And then you've got Gannett, who's an absolute professional, Like
Speaker 3: she's just like this, Like I think she even said,
Speaker 3: this is not my first radio so she knows how
Speaker 3: to handle herself in certain situation. She's Yeah, she's incredible
Speaker 3: to watch. She just nails it every time. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think, Look, Kyler definitely takes the trophy. She had
Speaker 3: no problem getting herself right.
Speaker 2: The Miller things, you know, the blogs.
Speaker 1: That were released, you know, which became a part of
Speaker 1: the show. The blogs came out and it said that
Speaker 1: there was a story that Janet had thrown Kyla under
Speaker 1: the bus.
Speaker 3: Janet brings up a number of social media posts the
Speaker 3: bloggers have written this season.
Speaker 4: Janet stoops to a whole new low, spreading and using
Speaker 4: a painful moment of Kyla's past against her. It all
Speaker 4: comes to a head in Port Douglas. It hasn't gotten
Speaker 4: any better.
Speaker 1: The rumor that went out on this blog was so
Speaker 1: wrong to what was happening in real time and in
Speaker 1: real life. Why was everyone so quick to say that
Speaker 1: Kyler or Angelie or Cherry had dropped that into the media.
Speaker 1: Might have just been possible that that person who loves
Speaker 1: the housewives just made it up.
Speaker 3: I didn't really do all the background research on all
Speaker 3: these because it all just blew up into this conversation.
Speaker 3: I actually couldn't make sense of them, like, so, who's
Speaker 3: posting this and was it a real account.
Speaker 2: And who was behind and who spoke to who?
Speaker 3: And an induck in me, it got so frivolous and
Speaker 3: so muddy waters. I was just like, I haven't got
Speaker 3: time to insert myself into this drama because she said this,
Speaker 3: and she said that, and why did she say about this?
Speaker 2: And who set it up? And whose account was it?
Speaker 2: And I was like, in the end, I was just
Speaker 2: pushing involved in it.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: The weird thing was, I thought Angelie was actually really funny.
Speaker 5: So I'm obviously thinks I have thrown her under the bus.
Speaker 5: But no, Cherry has thrown me under the bus. And
Speaker 5: that is very difficult for somebody who does not do
Speaker 5: public transport.
Speaker 1: Like on her pieces to camera and how she came
Speaker 1: across on the show, she certainly did go in there, probably,
Speaker 1: you know, with a few porky piles under her belt.
Speaker 1: But do you think it was really in the end
Speaker 1: Cherry and Kyla that probably gaslighted her out of the show, Because,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's what Gamble's now been saying
Speaker 1: in the media.
Speaker 3: So I agree with you that I think from a
Speaker 3: character perspective that I think Angelie's personality was very wisty.
Speaker 2: She thinks on the fly.
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't spend a lot of time with her,
Speaker 3: to be quite frank with her, I never filmed with
Speaker 3: her one on one. We actually didn't get to spend
Speaker 3: a lot of time together. So I found that quite
Speaker 3: interesting that she was quite insulting towards me, yet that
Speaker 3: I really didn't get a chance to talk to her
Speaker 3: that much.
Speaker 1: I watched that whole scenario, and maybe the anxiety about
Speaker 1: worrying about what people were going to say about her
Speaker 1: and her situation made her then project that onto you guys.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that's fair to say?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a fair call, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think her career in terms of being a
Speaker 3: journalist and reality television are two completely different worlds, and
Speaker 3: for me, not coming from a media background.
Speaker 2: I just went in there and just went, Okay, we'll
Speaker 2: just get this a shot.
Speaker 3: But she has a very you know, that would be
Speaker 3: a very controlled environment that she would work in. She
Speaker 3: know what she was going to say, she knew what
Speaker 3: she was going to present, and even though she's had
Speaker 3: that media experience, putting yourself in that environment with those
Speaker 3: women probably wasn't the right connection for her.
Speaker 1: Even at the start when she went to one of
Speaker 1: their press days, you know, she wore an outfit that
Speaker 1: was so I think picked for her and she was
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with. And then she asked, the media, don't put
Speaker 1: photos like that up. But it doesn't work like that,
Speaker 1: Like the media doesn't work like that. Those promo photos
Speaker 1: are out there, and then for you to try and
Speaker 1: control that was just really awkward. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, you sign up and you're basically putting your
Speaker 3: life in the hands of production, and you've got to
Speaker 3: take and I knew this from the beginning.
Speaker 2: You've got to take the good, the band, and the ugly.
Speaker 3: And you know, a lot of my friends would say
Speaker 3: to me, are you ready for what's about to happen? Simon,
Speaker 3: and there's going to be people in Australia they're just
Speaker 3: going to look at you and they're.
Speaker 2: Going to hate you.
Speaker 3: And I said, you know, I'm willing to take that
Speaker 3: chance because I'm just going to be myself. I'm going
Speaker 3: to represent who I am and if there's a small
Speaker 3: proportion of people that decigne not to like me, then
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: What did you know about Angelie's fake home situation while
Speaker 1: filming was happening, Because there's no problem in the world.
Speaker 1: And I know for a fact that Janet through the
Speaker 1: first series, in the second series, she was living in
Speaker 1: a house that was set up basically by production and
Speaker 1: there was no one ever dug her out for it,
Speaker 1: you know, and there was never any issue. So I
Speaker 1: didn't have a problem with the fact that Angela she
Speaker 1: could be living in another wadding in a place that
Speaker 1: costs two hundred bucks a week, and I still would
Speaker 1: be interested about who she is as a woman and
Speaker 1: how she interacts socially.
Speaker 3: And hey, good on you for negotiating that and getting
Speaker 3: that thrown in.
Speaker 2: That's a fabulous bonus.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. But did you guys know
Speaker 1: that that's what was happening.
Speaker 3: Like I said to you, I was an absolute guinea
Speaker 3: pig for the entire series.
Speaker 2: I didn't know any of that. I wasn't told anything.
Speaker 3: I was at I was such a late addition too, right,
Speaker 3: So I was such a late addition to the group,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't told anything.
Speaker 2: So I was none the wiser. Actually I had no idea.
Speaker 2: I was told you.
Speaker 3: I turned up for her house bulling party, was in
Speaker 3: the pull air. It was fabulous. But then now as
Speaker 3: all these things started unfolding, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe she should have grabbed the girls and said, hey,
Speaker 3: this is the situation, this is when I'm doing it.
Speaker 3: Maybe it would have unfollowed differently if she just kind
Speaker 3: of been upfront as the filming just when I kind
Speaker 3: of just had to go along with what was happening.
Speaker 3: But I had no idea, no one told me anything.
Speaker 3: I was flying completely goldine.
Speaker 1: And how did you feel when that Daily Mail article
Speaker 1: came out and they shamed her, Like, you know, that
Speaker 1: photo came out and you've got to pap outside her
Speaker 1: home and that narrative was really harshly portray How did
Speaker 1: that make you feel. I mean, I just don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel for in that.
Speaker 3: Moment, because I mean, nobody wants that type of publicity
Speaker 3: at all. No one wants articles like that written about them.
Speaker 3: But it kind of comes with the territory, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Because Daily Mail, for example, is only going.
Speaker 2: To look for it.
Speaker 1: That's the job for the people out there that try
Speaker 1: and control the narrative with the media. That only gives
Speaker 1: people more interest in trying to follow you, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, well, funny you should say that because I've actually
Speaker 3: had a pat outside for the last three days. Hi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like whether you're to get me and my
Speaker 2: gym year you're going for a run? How exciting?
Speaker 1: Did you ever believe that story? Though? This is what
Speaker 1: I don't understand. We've got to break this down. So
Speaker 1: did you ever believe that Janet would break into her house?
Speaker 3: Firstly, I don't think any of the ladies would actually
Speaker 3: do that. And firstly, and foremostly secondly, you're talking about
Speaker 3: a very tall building with a reception desk with adoormen
Speaker 3: with security tags. Anyone that's lived in an apartment building
Speaker 3: knows that when you get to a lift, you need
Speaker 3: a fob.
Speaker 2: You need fob to get up to the lift. You
Speaker 2: need a get in the door.
Speaker 3: So the whole fo story seemed a bit barfaged. There's
Speaker 3: two points of footage which I went back and watched,
Speaker 3: which I thought.
Speaker 2: Was really interesting.
Speaker 3: So when Kyler goes to Angelie's apartment and then and
Speaker 3: talks to her about it and says, you know, did
Speaker 3: this happen? And Angelie actually says on camera in her
Speaker 3: Master interview, Kyle has just come over and told me
Speaker 3: the Janet's broken into my apartment.
Speaker 5: Kyla tells me on the day of my pool party,
Speaker 5: Janet broke into my apartment to try to discredit me,
Speaker 5: to try to prove that I'm fooled.
Speaker 3: Because I looked at this footage over the weekend and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, so that was actually and
Speaker 3: for me, you can package it up there, Hobi lying,
Speaker 3: you can say what you said whatever. But I watched
Speaker 3: back that footage and Angelie says on camera, kyl has
Speaker 3: just come over and told me that Janet's broken into
Speaker 3: my apartment.
Speaker 1: If someone told me that a person I know had
Speaker 1: broken into my home, I would probably call them before
Speaker 1: i'd call the police. I mean, I probably wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, that sounds ridiculous, but you'd go.
Speaker 2: And you would have seen that. Yeah, you would have
Speaker 2: seen that.
Speaker 3: So when Kylie came and saw me at my styling
Speaker 3: session with Dita and she tells me a story and
Speaker 3: you watch my face, and I go like, is this believable?
Speaker 6: I haven't said anything to Janet and I don't know
Speaker 6: what to say, so because it's really big, and Ange's like, seriously,
Speaker 6: I'm going to talk to the police about this, Like
Speaker 6: this is.
Speaker 2: When was she in my apartment? Why is she going
Speaker 2: through my things?
Speaker 3: And then she goes need to say something, I need
Speaker 3: to say something, and I said, this is not your fight.
Speaker 3: Angelie can pick up the phone and call Janet. And
Speaker 3: I sat on that for a week. I didn't even
Speaker 3: ring Janet. So when people I think Cherry said Simone's
Speaker 3: ride up Janet's U, I sat on that for seven days.
Speaker 3: I didn't call anyone. I didn't talk to anyone about
Speaker 3: a conversation. I wanted to give those girls an opportunity
Speaker 3: to chat, and that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: I think it's really sad. In the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think it's sad though, that that whole situation played
Speaker 1: itself out, because I think that the series was really
Speaker 1: had a bit of a groove going on with Angelie,
Speaker 1: with her one liners, and she was really quite interesting
Speaker 1: for all of her pitfalls and for maybe saying some
Speaker 1: not so great things. I'm throwing some hand grenades at
Speaker 1: you at the start. I just thought it was really
Speaker 1: disappointing that we didn't get to watch her complete journey.
Speaker 1: And then it just feels as though some massive porcupies
Speaker 1: have been told and we've got the finale coming up.
Speaker 1: Is anyone going to be made accountable for these lies?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean I do agree with you.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a shame she didn't come back and
Speaker 3: talk to any of the girls because all the information
Speaker 3: was coming back by Kyla and Cherry, so we didn't
Speaker 3: get a chance to talk to her. And if I did,
Speaker 3: my advice would have been, you know, stay to the end,
Speaker 3: enjoy the experience, turn it around. You've got an opportunity
Speaker 3: here to recreate what's happened yourself and redirect the narrative.
Speaker 3: And my advice would have been stayed for the rest
Speaker 3: of the season and see it play out and see
Speaker 3: how you.
Speaker 1: Go interestingly enough in the UK with I'm a celebrity
Speaker 1: to get me out of here. If the contestants walk
Speaker 1: they don't get paid. So what happens just if you
Speaker 1: walk off the show? Do you still get your full paycheck?
Speaker 3: I can't confirm what's happened with her from a contractual perspective.
Speaker 3: I'm not involved in the legalities and that side of things.
Speaker 3: You'd have to ask one of your executive producers about
Speaker 3: that one. But it's I don't know what happened with
Speaker 3: the back end of all administrational legal side of fee.
Speaker 1: Do they say that to you like, I'm sure at
Speaker 1: some point you probably cried and walked off. I mean
Speaker 1: I know people that have never never talked off.
Speaker 3: Never, but I never had a fight with the producers
Speaker 3: and I never walked off set and said I'm done.
Speaker 3: I was professional from start to the end, and I
Speaker 3: took the advice. I took it on the tin when
Speaker 3: I needed to, and I just for me, I just
Speaker 3: wanted to show up and do a good job. You know,
Speaker 3: I've got a professional background, so for me, you know,
Speaker 3: the politics for me isn't isn't an issue. I deal
Speaker 3: with it in day to day, so if I did
Speaker 3: something that I was not that I did things out
Speaker 3: of line, but if in the background side of things,
Speaker 3: I take take the feedback on you know someone you
Speaker 3: need to be more this or we want you to
Speaker 3: do this. I made sure I was on time, I
Speaker 3: took direction. There was no walkouts from me.
Speaker 1: I would say Janet and Gamble on social media pretending
Speaker 1: to be hiding in cupboards is definitely my favorite social
Speaker 1: media post through this season. What was your response to
Speaker 1: watching those two girls get together and hide in each
Speaker 1: other's cupboards?
Speaker 3: When you spend time with Gamble and I got to
Speaker 3: one time with her on the Crane Lane troop.
Speaker 2: She is the wackiest, quirkiest woman that I've ever met
Speaker 2: my entire life. I think she like, we're on a golf.
Speaker 3: Course, right the golf I'm adhering to the rules and
Speaker 3: regulations of the golf course. She's on the ground snookering
Speaker 3: the ball into the hole, and I'm like horrified.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, oh my god, they're gonna be over there in.
Speaker 3: The clubhouse and they're gonna be like, there is this
Speaker 3: bad woman lying on the grass at the golf course.
Speaker 2: But she would have come up with that.
Speaker 3: She would have grabbed Janet and said, you know, come,
Speaker 3: I'm going to get you to hide in the carpet.
Speaker 2: She's crazy, but she's great fun. She comes up with
Speaker 2: the kirkiest stuff.
Speaker 1: Another question I have for you about Cherry's fortieth birthday,
Speaker 1: This is a good one. Did you notice that Tanya
Speaker 1: and v on the Block were there? Because like I
Speaker 1: and are they were they rent a crowd? Or are
Speaker 1: they legitimately Cherry's best mates?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you watch the Block? I didn't even notice the
Speaker 1: planets so funny.
Speaker 3: I just drank lots of one and hit the dance floor.
Speaker 3: I think for the most of the night you didn't
Speaker 3: even get to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, I just think that you've got the
Speaker 1: right ingredients for the show. You know what. Aspect of
Speaker 1: the show, though, do you think makes the Housewives franchise work?
Speaker 1: Do you think it's more drama or do you think
Speaker 1: it's more humor.
Speaker 3: I think it's the dynamics between different women's personalities that
Speaker 3: make it so intriguing to watch, because I've actually watched
Speaker 3: the show like a goggle Box style with different groups
Speaker 3: of friends. So I watch it with the gays, who
Speaker 3: are hilarious. I watch it with my girlfriends, I watch
Speaker 3: it with the mums from school, and I watch it
Speaker 3: with my family. So I've had this really interesting viewpoint
Speaker 3: from so many different angles. One niche I had a
Speaker 3: group of people. There's about twenty of this. They had
Speaker 3: so many questions about each of the women, but keep
Speaker 3: pausing the show, and I didn't get out of there
Speaker 3: to me, tell me the background on her, what's her deal?
Speaker 3: What she really liked that in real life? Why did
Speaker 3: she say that? So it's crazy watching it with groups
Speaker 3: of people. But I think what makes the show so
Speaker 3: addictive is you've got where a character right, and that
Speaker 3: character represents something, and that the women when you get together,
Speaker 3: You're never going to go to a group of women
Speaker 3: are all going to get along in.
Speaker 2: Your personal or your private life as well.
Speaker 3: And so when you get those niggarly personalities together and
Speaker 3: women get jealous of each other, they do, even though
Speaker 3: they may not show it, it kind of it comes out.
Speaker 3: Women get competitive, they get bitchy, and they say comments
Speaker 3: to each other, and all of that combine together and
Speaker 3: you throw us in with a whole lo of alcohol,
Speaker 3: bound to be on cray crash.
Speaker 1: But what's happening. Now, Are you talking to all of
Speaker 1: these women still? Is there anyone that you're not talking to?
Speaker 2: So I actually have stayed in touch with all girls.
Speaker 3: I talked to Jackie for hours on the phone because
Speaker 3: she's just had two new babies and I'm a mother
Speaker 3: of two, so I've got lots of tips and tricks
Speaker 3: to share with her. But she's one of those girls
Speaker 3: it's like so neutral and she can just give you
Speaker 3: really good advice.
Speaker 2: So I can talk to Jackie for hours on the phone.
Speaker 3: I was just on the phone to Gamble last night,
Speaker 3: debriefing on what.
Speaker 2: Did you think? And she's she's a really good soul.
Speaker 3: I've always had her in the background just giving me
Speaker 3: really really good advice and positive reinforcement when there's been
Speaker 3: oh shit moments. So I speaking of her last night.
Speaker 3: I talked to Janet all the time, and I catch
Speaker 3: up with her for drinks. So I think she's fabulous.
Speaker 3: She's been like my long laster Auntie. I can be
Speaker 3: with her and my sixties. I mean, she's in great shape,
Speaker 3: she's fabulous.
Speaker 2: She's just I think she's great. So I talked to
Speaker 2: her all the time.
Speaker 3: Funnily enough, even though I've had run ins with Cherry.
Speaker 3: I still talk talk to Cherry and give her a
Speaker 3: call and see how she's going at the end of
Speaker 3: the day. You know, we've produced a show.
Speaker 2: We're all new to it.
Speaker 3: I don't hold anything against these girls, even though they've
Speaker 3: said some horrendous things, but that's just who I am.
Speaker 3: Give everybody an opportunity to come good. I still speak,
Speaker 3: you know, expect Cherry every few days and see how
Speaker 3: she is and how she's coping with the watching herself back.
Speaker 2: I was spoken to her this morning though, and Kyla.
Speaker 2: Look the same thing. Kyler as well. I speak her
Speaker 2: now every now and then touch base and see how
Speaker 2: she's going.
Speaker 1: So now we're down at the end of the list.
Speaker 1: Now we're at Angelie. So have you been talking to Angeline.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, Once she left the group, I haven't had any
Speaker 3: conversations with it.
Speaker 1: It's so so strange because you know, you're a fan
Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives franchise, so you've seen Lisa vander
Speaker 1: pump walk off a series and then you kind of
Speaker 1: would It must be a different experience to watch that
Speaker 1: as a viewer as what it's like to be in
Speaker 1: that situation in real life.
Speaker 3: When you're living it and breathing it and you're enish.
Speaker 3: It's the emotions run high. Yeah, absolutely, And it's weird
Speaker 3: watching it back because you know you've just filmed it
Speaker 3: all at Star this year and then it comes out
Speaker 3: but we don't see it, so we don't see it
Speaker 3: in advance. We only get to see it like just
Speaker 3: before the rest of Australia.
Speaker 1: The finale is the best one of the whole series.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's explosive. I just keep telling you I was
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 3: I was in it, and I remember sitting here just
Speaker 3: going I've witnessed, I witness how these women spect to
Speaker 3: each other, but I've never seen anything like what this
Speaker 3: lave one is this It is explosive coming up on
Speaker 3: the Real Housewives of Melbourne.
Speaker 6: No, it's not about waking up. It's about you bloody
Speaker 6: tuning in Rick buying you a new Bloody Sorry why
Speaker 6: as and your husband buy a new set of tits.
Speaker 3: I beg your fucking pardon.
Speaker 6: Don't you pretend to defend her? No, don't you you
Speaker 6: sit down because you're no friend of her.
Speaker 3: Just even Walkie at the I mean we were in it,
Speaker 3: and you know, I remember it quite vividly and it's
Speaker 3: it's vile.
Speaker 1: I swear. After that dinner, I just felt so stressed
Speaker 1: for Cherry. The last frame of her as her in
Speaker 1: absolute tears, and I just was like, and she'd just
Speaker 1: been told to go and buy a new set of
Speaker 1: tits or something, and I just was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 3: Just However, she did say though, she did say to
Speaker 3: Gamble she needs to get a new hearing aid.
Speaker 2: So what you know, You're fire it over.
Speaker 1: You're going to get such good television for anyone. This
Speaker 1: has been a good tease. Let me tell you. You know,
Speaker 1: there's been some really massive rumors, and the rumors always
Speaker 1: started by I think the Housewives themselves. But everyone's talking
Speaker 1: if there's a season six that someone from the original
Speaker 1: Girls has confirmed that they're coming back. Do you know
Speaker 1: anything about this? Do you know anything about this?
Speaker 2: No? I get told nothing, but if.
Speaker 1: One of them does come back, because I think that
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about the need for Lydia to come back,
Speaker 1: and everyone loves Gina, but I think there's a real
Speaker 1: like if I could say I loved this series and
Speaker 1: I loved everything about it, but I did feel I
Speaker 1: think I felt this is so strange to say. I
Speaker 1: think I felt the absence of Lydia more than I
Speaker 1: noticed the absence of Gina, which is bizarre to say.
Speaker 1: I guess the question that I have to ask you then, is,
Speaker 1: if any of the OG's come back, who would you
Speaker 1: just pick one? Who would you like to want to
Speaker 1: be sitting across the table with.
Speaker 2: I really wanted to meet Gina.
Speaker 3: Actually I thought her and I would the girls say
Speaker 3: that you and we would get alng Quite well.
Speaker 2: She's an icon and she's iconic to the show, and
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: She's so missed, and so I would have loved or
Speaker 3: just worked with her for one season at least I
Speaker 3: would have loved to work with her.
Speaker 1: All Right, we've got to wrap this up because we've
Speaker 1: been talking for far too long. But my last question
Speaker 1: that I ask all of my guests before they go
Speaker 1: is what's an amazing story from behind the scenes that
Speaker 1: we're as an audience would appreciate something we might not know,
Speaker 1: something that might have happened in the production.
Speaker 3: I can tell you one little funny thing that happened
Speaker 3: so in Queensland when we went to the lunch under
Speaker 3: the Waterfall and I have that confrontation with Cherry when
Speaker 3: she gets all up and about and she starts crying
Speaker 3: and she says.
Speaker 2: Your shallo is so shallo?
Speaker 3: And I say, well, I've actually got seen the email
Speaker 3: where you emailed. And I never put this in the
Speaker 3: media on Twitter or anything, right, okay, because it's just
Speaker 3: it's such frivolous conversation. But I have seen the email
Speaker 3: that says, Hi, La La, I'm going to Queensland next
Speaker 3: week and I'm wondering if you consider dressing me for Queensland.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time being touched, something
Speaker 2: to that effect.
Speaker 3: So there was that that she did email them, and
Speaker 3: then I went through my Instagram with and this, I'm
Speaker 3: not treating this seriously, so please just flag with just
Speaker 3: let's take a serious hat off and just go okay,
Speaker 3: it is what it is. I went through my Instagram
Speaker 3: and look, let's be honest as a girl with fashion
Speaker 3: at the moment, if you're going to go and look
Speaker 3: at something, you're going to go and look at the website.
Speaker 3: You're going to scroll through their clothes, but you're going
Speaker 3: to jump on their install and see who's wearing it
Speaker 3: or what their thing is, and then you.
Speaker 2: Can do a click through your shop. I mean everyone
Speaker 2: that's tech savvy knows that right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I scrolled through all my install and I've got it,
Speaker 3: and she's liked all the posts where I'm wearing the label.
Speaker 3: So when she said I don't follow you, you think
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with you, I'm like, I'm not insinuating that
Speaker 3: you're obsessed with me, but you have seen me wearing
Speaker 3: the label, and if you go onto you think I'm
Speaker 3: sised with you. Know, I'm like, you've seen me wearing it,
Speaker 3: so stop denying it, like just go, yeah I do
Speaker 3: and I love it. So and then when you go
Speaker 3: through the actual install of the label, if you looked
Speaker 3: it up, I'm literally all through it. So say you're
Speaker 3: looking at the brains at all, Like, if you're going
Speaker 3: to go and buy a label, right, you're going to go,
Speaker 3: what are their clothes, what's their shirts, what's their skirts?
Speaker 2: Whatever, I'm gonna jump on, I'm going to stick have
Speaker 2: a scroll. If you scroll down, I'm all through it.
Speaker 3: So I'm tagged all through it, So you only have
Speaker 3: to go through the feed to see that I'm actually
Speaker 3: all over it. So to be like I didn't know anything,
Speaker 3: Absolute bears and it's actually been like like likened by Cherry.
Speaker 1: But what's happened now? I know that Gamble and Janet
Speaker 1: call it burning content, so like you can't. You've got
Speaker 1: to save the drama for the cameras, so like, but
Speaker 1: how have you not been compelled to just ring her
Speaker 1: up and to have that conversation on the phone just
Speaker 1: be like, look, mate, I know that you kind of
Speaker 1: broke down about this, but you know, all the receipts
Speaker 1: are here and I've got no issue with it whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Like I'm the girliest girl that will share fashion tips
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: But she liked that.
Speaker 3: Remember when I said, look, you had to just come
Speaker 3: to me and said, hey.
Speaker 2: I freaking love what you're wearing. Who is this, Diana?
Speaker 2: That's what I do. I'm like, where is that from?
Speaker 2: Who's doing your hair? I'm stealing them? You know, I
Speaker 2: would have that conversation, but will I approach that would?
Speaker 2: And so you saw that.
Speaker 3: Just now she cried I'm not I'm not laughing. But
Speaker 3: not only did she cry at lunch, she cried for
Speaker 3: two days. I was like, Okay, it's happened. It's like
Speaker 3: I got the list the next day and I get
Speaker 3: in a lived with her and she won't speaking to me.
Speaker 2: I was like, come on, if we've done what we
Speaker 2: need to do that she wouldn't spect them.
Speaker 3: We dat in the gym together on the treadmills. In
Speaker 3: the morning, you're like, warning, how are you hi? This
Speaker 3: went on going for days.
Speaker 1: Well, I just want to say thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your contribution to this series of the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Melbourne and if season six is happening, then we're
Speaker 1: at the top of my list.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here on the podcast today.
Speaker 2: It's just been saying, yeah, thank you, great to chat
Speaker 2: to you. Absolutely thanks for having me