WEBVTT - LET THE TEA SPILL WITH MELB HOUSEWIFE SIMONE! 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.200 TV Reloaded podcast last week. I'm I, how would I 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:10.000 describe a television set oh Man action from a headline 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:10.959 grabbing point of view? 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.320 The hack producer me says one hundred percent put him in. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.239 Thanks your welcome back guys to TV Reload. My name's 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.959 Benjamin Norris and on this podcast, I go behind the 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:23.279 scenes with the biggest players in television. 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.000 Yeah, great questions. The show's about the game. There's a 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.360 lot of great television out there in Australia. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.920 But I've also got to go behind the scenes with writers. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.240 The truth is, when I started writing it, it wasn't 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.160 had nothing to do with the news and casting agents. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.440 They know from a casting point of view what they need. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.800 And editors because that's what we do as editors where storytellers. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.360 Not to forget some incredible executive producers who are making 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.200 some of the best TV in Australia. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.000 I have been on the program since the beginning and 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.040 it's kind of in my DNA. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.520 So thanks for joining me each week and I hope 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.800 the podcast continues to give you real insight into the 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.319 magic of television today. On the podcast, I have one 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.040 of my favorite housewives from the latest series of the 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.679 Real Housewives of Melbourne, it's Simone Elliott. We have come 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.280 to the end of yet another series with only the 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:13.160 finale left. As we as an audience have well and 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.720 truly picked our sides over the most explosive divide ever 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.320 seen on the Melbourne franchise. Simona's laughed, cried and stood 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.960 up for herself and one over the fashion world of 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.960 Australian audiences. The blonde bombshell has walked away with legions 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.000 of fans and if there's to be another series, already 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.040 audiences are begging for her return. We talk tantrums, female 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.199 relationships and all the inside goss from behind the scenes 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.520 of this year's drama. I actually can't believe how much 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.920 tea this housewife managed to spill. I think it has 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.280 to be a record. However, let's get started with today's episode. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.800 I'd like to welcome Simone Elliott to this week's TV reload. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.120 I think I was able to maintain Extackley, who I was. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:57.440 Kick your standards high and your stiletto's higher. The cameras 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.680 don't lie. Everything that comes out of your mouth is 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:00.440 what you say. 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.760 It's been a long time since we followed the lives 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:05.680 of our Melbourne housewives. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.360 I'm not naturally a confrontational person. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.880 Four new ladies arrived to shake things up. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.560 I don't hold anything against these girls, even though they've 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:17.760 said some horrendous things. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.400 I'm telling you that conversation did not happen. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.600 I can't confirm what's happened with her from a contractual perspective. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:27.560 Hi, Simone, how are you. 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.920 Hi, I'm very good. Thank you. 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.880 Congratulations on surviving your first series of housewives. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:34.519 Thank you. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:39.519 It certainly has been a wild rush and sometimes I 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:40.840 don't even know how to explain it. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.079 It certainly has been an interesting experience. 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.640 Well, there's no preparation for really doing reality television. But 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.240 when I met you at the launch, so you hadn't 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.480 filmed anything yet, I really thought you had the biggest 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.080 X factor out of all of the new girls. But 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:56.600 do you remember what you said to me? 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.560 No, I was like a deer in headlines that day 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.160 because I remember getting up on stage and I was like, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.240 oh my god, the entire room for the media. I'm 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.440 not media trained, I'm not an actress. I haven't been 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.320 to nighter and I thought, my god, like I present 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:15.519 for work. But that's a business environment, right, So you'll 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.080 have to tell me. I have no idea what I 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:18.399 said to you. 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.320 You were going to be talking business and real things, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.120 and you're going to be real on the show, and 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.359 that you won't get caught up in any of the gossip. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.280 That was what you said. How do you think you 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:27.800 went with that? 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.800 Look I'm looking back on, I think the main bulk 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.880 of the episodes, I think I was able to maintain 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.640 exactly who I was, which I think is really interesting 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.400 because a lot of the girls go, I've been edited 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.960 or reality TV is and what you think it is. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.240 I think it's a really interesting self reflection on yourself 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.360 because the cameras don't lie. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.720 Everything that comes out of your mouth is what you say. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.120 And so I was represented exactly how I am in 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.440 my life. Like I cried, I stood up for myself 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.560 when I needed to. I shut the hell up when 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.960 I needed to. But in terms of the drama, I mean, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:05.080 I'm not naturally a confrontational person, like I know, going 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:08.280 for a fight. I won't meet you and judge you 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.960 and fight you. However, given the circumstances, I will stand 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.840 up for myself and I will stand up for the 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.240 people around me that I think if the situation requires it. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.360 My thoughts on Cherry at this point is I need 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:27.720 to understand why she behaved and erupted so emotionally yesterday 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.400 or was there other things that were actually driving her 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.159 to behave in such an extreme manner and cry and 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.680 leave the table or did I just really piss her off? 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.480 So that was one of the things when I joined Housewives, 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.400 you know, they put you through all these rigorous conversations 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.200 and interviews and they said, you have to have a backbone. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.000 You can't come into this group of women and just 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.359 be like, Ah, I can't do this. You have to 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.880 be able to say your peace, otherwise you just you're 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:54.520 not going to survive. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.000 It is very much a mirror and for a lot 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.359 of people going on telling they have a disconnect like 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.000 how people perceive them, and so they say, oh, the 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.400 edit was really weird. But what they don't realize is 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.200 that's who they really are in real life, and. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:08.680 That was what's really interesting. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.560 And it doesn't matter what your close girlfriends think of you, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.520 or your bestie loves you to death. At the end 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:19.359 of the day, what you represent is entirely up to 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.320 the fans and the viewers of the show, and they're 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.240 going to make their opinions on you based on how 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.560 you behave and how you respond to certain conversations. And 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.800 I just think the psychology of the dynamics that in 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.240 itself I found really extraordinary, because on my day to 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.599 day I probably deal with men more than I do 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.840 with women, and so that dynamic of women and the 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.760 way they speak to each other, all, particularly these scrupule women. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.200 I'm literally in shock about the way that they conduct 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:47.400 themselves and speak to each other. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.400 How much of the experience was like what you thought 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:51.080 it was going to be. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.560 Like I used to watch all the franchises, so you know, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.640 I used to watch Melbourne, I watched the Sydney one, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.600 which was a car crash. I've watched Beverly Hills probably 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.919 since the beginning. So I walked into this with my 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.400 eyes wide open. I knew that it was extremely polarizing. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.360 I knew that there was going to be arguments, one 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.120 hundred percent. You can't put that many different personalities in 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:17.080 an enfined environment and not expect sparks to buy. Having 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.560 said that, there were so many times that I was 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.640 extremely nervous and I think in the early days, I 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.279 don't know if you picked up on that, but I'd 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.000 go into situations I thought, my god, these women, the 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.599 way they're firing up. It made me anxious and made 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.440 me anxious at the level of that these conversations went 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.919 to and the insults that were being thrown at me. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:38.839 You know, a lot of the time i'd come to 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.960 a situation I was trying to be quite level headed, 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:42.880 and then some of the girls were just throwing insults 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.200 at me, and like, did I ever put you down? 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.040 Did I discredit you? Did I ever pick on what 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.440 you look like? Or you'll figure? Or I've been called 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:57.120 everything from the barbie to shallow else has been in there. Oh, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.240 she studied in MBA, but you know she must have 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.279 had memory loss. So I'm like, I have never ever 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.640 attacked a woman on their you know, their intelligence, their figure, 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:11.560 what they wear, their weight, And yet those topics were 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:13.640 certainly quite prevalent through the film. 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.960 What she's on about is so ridiculous and so minute 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.560 and so vapid that if I were to apologize, it's 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.880 rewarding her shallowness. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:28.320 Well. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.760 I interviewed the executive producers of the show just before 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.480 the show launched, and one of the ladies was talking 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.040 to me and said, you had the best fashion this year, 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.160 so that's a good thing. But also she said that 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.960 you took probably the longest to warm up, that there 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.440 was a sense of hesitation with the way in which 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.400 you were to begin with. Is that sort of how 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.120 is that how it was for you? 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.360 Yeah, So there was a couple of reasons for that. 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:55.040 I think I didn't go into this going I want 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:56.000 to be the famous one. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.080 I want to be Gina. I want to take over, 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:58.640 and I. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.120 Think if you watch they are some of the other girls, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:03.600 I think that's what they were after. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.360 And she was so iconic. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.840 When Gina was retiring and then I was announced, I thought, 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:13.320 oh god, pressure because she was such a loved being character. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.800 So I never went into this going I want to 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.680 be the star. I thought, I've got to learn the ropes. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.360 I've got to learn from Janet Gamble and Jackie, and 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.720 this is my year to really understand how it works. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.480 So that was kind of the first thing my apprehensions. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.160 I probably think early on when I was filming, was 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.920 at a corporate career, a senior management level, and I 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.720 don't want people to think that I'm this psycho crazy 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.559 bitch because I've got to manage people, I've got to 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.360 manage budgets. And I was very early on I was 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.800 very conscious about my behavior given that the job I 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.280 have in the background. So there was that, and then 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.280 the final part of it was I had just gone 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:54.280 through a horrendous breakup pretty much a week before I 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.400 met you guys at the Megna launch, and it was 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:59.200 seven and a half years of my life and I 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.120 was engaged, and the flow on effect of that has 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.720 actually hit me most of this year. And whilst I 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.160 was kind of presenting a very polished version of myself 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.800 and I dialed up the fashion and the looks, in 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.559 the background, I was grieving the breakdown of that and 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.680 everything that went with it. So there were moments like 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.840 if you look at the graduation dinner when Angelie was 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.600 being extremely rude to me and condescending, and you watched 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.160 my face and I've got this a lot of emotion. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.480 I'm watching myself back and I'm like, I look so 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.199 disappointed and so upset. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.280 What do I eat an apology for my Dollie. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.840 That whole situation between Cherry and I would have been alleviated. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.520 If I had a chance to speak to Cherry and 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:45.880 I didn't get a chance to do that. 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.640 I'm sorry, I like prostrate on the ground before us. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:48.960 The mood. 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.760 Not only was I dealing with that situation, but in 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.600 the background, I was dealing with colored relationship stuff as well. 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.200 So I was watching my face back and say, oh 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.040 my god, that's so comes through on screen just this look. 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.920 Oh my god, I'm dealing with this woman who refuses 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.080 to apologize. Yet in the background, I'm dealing with a 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.120 whole lot of other emotional baggage. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.280 But at the same time that once you eased into it, 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.240 your emotions and your reactions earnest and honestly was what 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:21.200 resonated with the audience. Relaxing into yourself became what people 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.320 loved you for. I guess it is a little bit 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.320 of that sort of teething process. I have to ask, 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.760 how did you get cast? Because I'd heard that you 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.280 were nearly cast in that ill fated series. You know, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.400 you were quite close to being a part of that cast, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.800 and then something something must have happened. Why weren't you 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.319 in that original lineup? 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.560 Yeah, So I've been talking, probably talking to these guys 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.320 for a while there. There's a lot of things that 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.800 happened in my relationship back in twenty nineteen, and I 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.520 probably didn't have the confidence to put myself out there. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.600 That's twenty twenty one now, and now I've got probably 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.520 more confidence to put myself out there and take on 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.120 challenges that I didn't do before. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.720 So if they roll into series six, which is what 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.920 people were talking about now that you know there might 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:06.439 be a series six, are you already attached or are 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:07.600 you looking forward to doing it? 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:07.760 Like? 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.480 What can you say about a possible series six for you? 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.360 You know, despite what some of the other girls have 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.520 been saying, and I say this with absolute honesty, I 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.319 had a really good experience with the cast and crew 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.400 of Housewives. I had a ball, you know. It took 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.720 me out of my comfort zone. It pushed me into 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.640 areas on screen that I probably wouldn't have done before. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.400 I had so much fun with my glam team on 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.400 the looks. We were curating everything for everything. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.280 I had my hair chopped off to here, I had 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.720 it down my back like I had a ball, right. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.520 I think if I did get cast to come back 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.040 for next year, all that baggage side of my life 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.200 is can't park now, so I'll be able to open 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.760 up more and share more about who I am in 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.360 my life, which would be great. I have so many 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.600 women reach out to me after showing the charity work 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.240 I do with Fit of Work, saying so more and 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:56.240 how do you do it all? 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:57.880 You're such an inspiration. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.720 You've got the kids, you've been studying, you've got your 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.000 full on work and you seem to sort of pulled together. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.040 I really want to continue on that theme and show 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.520 like a positive role model for women in Australia that 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:08.439 you can do it all. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:09.960 You just can't do it all at the same time, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:11.559 and you don't need to be a me. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.800 You don't have to pull people aside and make comments 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.760 about people that you don't know very well. I mean, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:20.760 that was the thing that was strange for me, and 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.160 the backlash again some of the other women because of that, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.040 I think has been the real reason as to why 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.960 they've had a bad time on the show. Like, you 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.040 can't go to a party and act like a fool 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.720 and then play the victim afterwards. It doesn't work like that. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.400 A hand grenade's thrown and then I'm out of here. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.959 You know. It was like a stand up say your 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.199 piece and own it and back yourself and you know what, 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:44.719 and if you have to, if you have to say 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.080 you've done the wrong thing, just say it. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.720 People are forgiving, you know. I've heard that the reunion 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.160 is canceled and that we won't see a reunion that 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.120 we have seen in previous seasons. What's happening with the reunion? 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:55.760 Is it happening? 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.960 Well, I don't know, but I've got things to say, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.880 so replays have Maybe we can organize our own if 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:02.520 it doesn't happen. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.240 Well, I think we should. I think we'll get all 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.920 the girls together. But has Foxtel told you is there 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.600 going to be a reunion? So there's nothing in the 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:10.320 calendar for you. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.440 I can tell you. Now, let me let me tell 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.319 you what it's like working this on the show. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.720 Half the time I get in the car, I get 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.920 told to be dressed a certain way, but I'm not. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:19.679 Telling you where you're going. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.920 And I'm not someone that I'm quite organized, and I 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:24.480 don't deal with this very well. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.440 So half the time I don't even know where I'm going. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.360 What I'm walking into. You'll probably find out before me. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.320 Who do you think was the biggest drama Queen because 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.600 now that I've finished it, you know, we've got the 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.839 finale coming up this week. But I kind of feel 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.320 like Kyler has come across like the villain of the series, Like, 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.080 who do you think is the biggest drama Queen was? 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:48.360 Kyla had no problem inserting herself into conversations, and even 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.360 when I kind of said to her, you should back 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:54.440 out of this one, she just got this. When you 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.720 spend time with her, she got this high need for control, 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.040 and I think she has it in her personal life. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.480 She had definitely had it in this show. I mean, 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.199 you saw her with the mixologist at the fling this weekend. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.080 She was right in there, She's telling the bloke what 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.400 to do, and I'm like, she really wanted to be 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:10.960 part of these conversations. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.679 But she also kind of directed the narrative with some 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.160 of the girls as well. It was interesting for her 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.440 to be around because she's actually a really fun girl. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.040 She's actually really fun to be around, but she's also 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.360 got this high need for control, so she was definitely 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:26.160 in control of. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:27.120 The drama this season. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.400 I mean, Jackie was heavily pregnant and had psiotica, so 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:31.320 we had to keep an eye on. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:32.760 Her and make sure that she was calm. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.800 You know, she's carrying twins, and Gamble's just hilarious. She 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.520 just makes fun and large of everything that happens. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.040 Absolutely, I suppose. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.440 And then you've got Gannett, who's an absolute professional, Like 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.320 she's just like this, Like I think she even said, 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.480 this is not my first radio so she knows how 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:52.000 to handle herself in certain situation. She's Yeah, she's incredible 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.560 to watch. She just nails it every time. But yeah, 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:58.360 I think, Look, Kyler definitely takes the trophy. She had 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.000 no problem getting herself right. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.040 The Miller things, you know, the blogs. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.960 That were released, you know, which became a part of 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.120 the show. The blogs came out and it said that 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.800 there was a story that Janet had thrown Kyla under 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:09.280 the bus. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.400 Janet brings up a number of social media posts the 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.120 bloggers have written this season. 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:22.560 Janet stoops to a whole new low, spreading and using 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.880 a painful moment of Kyla's past against her. It all 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.160 comes to a head in Port Douglas. It hasn't gotten 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:30.920 any better. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.120 The rumor that went out on this blog was so 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.760 wrong to what was happening in real time and in 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.480 real life. Why was everyone so quick to say that 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.920 Kyler or Angelie or Cherry had dropped that into the media. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.440 Might have just been possible that that person who loves 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:49.960 the housewives just made it up. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.120 I didn't really do all the background research on all 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.640 these because it all just blew up into this conversation. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.000 I actually couldn't make sense of them, like, so, who's 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.320 posting this and was it a real account. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.200 And who was behind and who spoke to who? 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.120 And an induck in me, it got so frivolous and 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.720 so muddy waters. I was just like, I haven't got 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:12.560 time to insert myself into this drama because she said this, 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.840 and she said that, and why did she say about this? 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.640 And who set it up? And whose account was it? 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:17.920 And I was like, in the end, I was just 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.000 pushing involved in it. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:19.360 Well. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:26.480 The weird thing was, I thought Angelie was actually really funny. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:29.960 So I'm obviously thinks I have thrown her under the bus. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.880 But no, Cherry has thrown me under the bus. And 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.520 that is very difficult for somebody who does not do 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.080 public transport. 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.320 Like on her pieces to camera and how she came 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.960 across on the show, she certainly did go in there, probably, 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.520 you know, with a few porky piles under her belt. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.920 But do you think it was really in the end 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.160 Cherry and Kyla that probably gaslighted her out of the show, Because, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:56.920 I mean, I think that's what Gamble's now been saying 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:57.640 in the media. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.600 So I agree with you that I think from a 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.200 character perspective that I think Angelie's personality was very wisty. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:05.000 She thinks on the fly. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.000 I mean I didn't spend a lot of time with her, 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:08.679 to be quite frank with her, I never filmed with 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.680 her one on one. We actually didn't get to spend 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.360 a lot of time together. So I found that quite 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.480 interesting that she was quite insulting towards me, yet that 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.240 I really didn't get a chance to talk to her 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:17.720 that much. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.360 I watched that whole scenario, and maybe the anxiety about 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.760 worrying about what people were going to say about her 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:28.359 and her situation made her then project that onto you guys. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:29.720 Do you think that that's fair to say? 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.880 Yeah, I think that's a fair call, absolutely, yeah. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.800 And I think her career in terms of being a 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:40.640 journalist and reality television are two completely different worlds, and 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:42.920 for me, not coming from a media background. 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:44.640 I just went in there and just went, Okay, we'll 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:45.399 just get this a shot. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.439 But she has a very you know, that would be 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.960 a very controlled environment that she would work in. She 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.080 know what she was going to say, she knew what 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.479 she was going to present, and even though she's had 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.520 that media experience, putting yourself in that environment with those 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.040 women probably wasn't the right connection for her. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.080 Even at the start when she went to one of 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.000 their press days, you know, she wore an outfit that 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:07.439