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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for.

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Speaker 2: The time poor parent who just wants answers.

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Speaker 1: Now, Welcome to the Happy Family Podcast. I'm justin. I'm

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Speaker 1: here with Kylie among our six kids. I'm the author

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Speaker 1: of a whole bunch of books, the co host of

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Speaker 1: a TV show called Parental Guidance, all about raising kids,

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot of other stuff. And today you

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Speaker 1: just happen to have joined the podcast. Maybe you're new here.

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Speaker 1: If you are, you've joined us on one of the

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Speaker 1: most exciting podcasting days in our podcasting history. It might

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Speaker 1: not be exciting for you at all, but it's really

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Speaker 1: exciting for us.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's just say your tagline just got a bit longer.

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Speaker 1: My tagline meaning all the stuff that we ah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to reveal too much. Okay, So we

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Speaker 1: have some news. We have some really big news. We

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Speaker 1: are the parents, as I mentioned, of six children. I

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Speaker 1: nearly said seven children, but I'm not going to say

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Speaker 1: that we're the parents of seven children. But we are

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Speaker 1: the parents of six kids. Our oldest daughter has been

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Speaker 1: married for what almost four years? Nearly four years? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: four years in a couple of months time and a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, she asked if the whole family could

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Speaker 1: get together to have dinner. We said, of course, we

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Speaker 1: love when the family gets together. So we all got

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Speaker 1: everyone together and after dinner, we sat around and we

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Speaker 1: played some pictionary. But there was something going on with

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Speaker 1: the pictionary game because you decided to set it up.

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Speaker 1: Rather than playing proper dictionary, you did a Kylie Coulson

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Speaker 1: Pictionary Special. What were the details of that Kylie Culson

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Speaker 1: Pictionary Special, Missus Happy Families.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you're playing pictionary, obviously, there's usually just a

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Speaker 2: there's only one person drawing. So we thought we'd kind

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Speaker 2: there was four teams, and because.

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Speaker 1: We have a big family, it was like three or

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Speaker 1: four teams were competing to be the first one to

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Speaker 1: guess the same thing. Okay, so on each team, one

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Speaker 1: person was the person drawing. All of the drawers got

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Speaker 1: to their individual boards and start drawing, and everyone else

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Speaker 1: on their team, the two or three other people and

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Speaker 1: and there was a series of themes that remained consistent

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Speaker 2: Like they were just household items.

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Speaker 1: They were all just household items. But this is kind

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Speaker 1: of what happened, eh am awake. So I should warn

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Speaker 1: you that as we play more audio clips from the

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Speaker 1: next few minutes, it's chaos in our home. We have

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Speaker 1: six kids, we've got grandparents there, there's there's a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of other people who are in our home with us,

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Speaker 1: joining in for what's going to be a really fun

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Speaker 1: pictionary night. And you can just hear the chaos. You

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Speaker 1: can hear all of that. This is a raw that

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Speaker 2: There is no editing here anyway.

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Speaker 1: Ella Ella notices at some point that there's something going

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Speaker 2: Led to one of the kids actually accusing me being pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Getting ready to tell us that she's pregnant again, are

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Speaker 1: you pregnant, honey? So this conversation suddenly turns into a

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Speaker 1: big discussion about pregnancy, and as you.

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Speaker 2: Can tell, in our house, there's never just one speaker.

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Speaker 1: We need a talking stick in our home. So then

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Speaker 2: So our eldest daughter has made it official. I'm going

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Speaker 1: In September.

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Speaker 2: Chaos ensued following their announcements.

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Speaker 1: What are you crying? So everyone's crying except one of

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Speaker 1: Why is crying? Why are you all crying? You're all crying?

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Speaker 1: What the heck?

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Speaker 2: And in case you're still wondering what the heck is

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Speaker 2: What I just loved about this experience was for Annie.

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Speaker 2: But that had blew up even further for her when

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Speaker 2: It was just such a big moment.

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Speaker 1: So in case this has just been a bit too much,

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Speaker 1: The news is out. It's official. Our daughter has given

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Speaker 1: the Dog wants to know what's going on? Do you

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Speaker 1: know what something really funny has had And in terms

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Speaker 1: of this whole whole thing, and Kylie, you remember this

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Speaker 1: plans for a family? I mean, it's your life, it's

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Speaker 1: They've waited three years and we've still got another five

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Speaker 1: I'm just so indescribably thrilled to find out. Even if

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Speaker 2: To be, Well, you are being sheltered a little bit

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Speaker 2: because since Chanell found out that she was pregnant. I

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Speaker 2: have had text messages at two am this morning. I

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Speaker 2: But what is so delightful is that she wants me

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Speaker 2: a conversation just the other day, she's like, Mom, I

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Speaker 1: It's been like three and a half months forever. Look,

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Speaker 2: I think what I'm most excited about is that Jared

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Speaker 2: is just so much solidarity in their love for each

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Speaker 1: Of being old enough to be a grandma, no.

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Speaker 2: Having the privilege of having a front row seat as

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm so excited about, is just watching that love.

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Speaker 1: I just had a thought that I've not had until

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Speaker 1: right this moment. We have six kids, six daughters. How

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Speaker 1: many grandkids do you reckon we're going to end up with?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like we've got the potential to

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Speaker 2: Well, we put this in context because Shanell and Jarrett

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Speaker 2: it actually probably has been a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: With all the kids driving everyone crazy. Clearly it didn't

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Speaker 2: I think I'm just most excited that she wants to

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Speaker 2: many ways, it feels like reliving some of my own experiences,

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Speaker 2: to share with her some of the really hard learned

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Speaker 1: What do you think would be the hardest thing.

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Speaker 2: Watching her hurt?

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Speaker 2: Watching watching watching her go through the hard because while

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Speaker 2: knowing that while I can support her, the reality is

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know what, that's where you grow, That's

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Speaker 1: the good stuff. That's why you're who you are because

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Speaker 1: of the hard stuff That you've been through anyway, that's arounsdment.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm most nervous about the thing that

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Speaker 1: you can guess what is going to be the hardest

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Speaker 1: for me. You're not going to guess. I thought you'd

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Speaker 1: Well, what I'm most worried about is that I'm going

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Speaker 1: to want to try to be the parenting expert, and

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