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Speaker 1: And look, Sony from the Berry Springs Tavern, wasn't the

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Speaker 1: other only one obviously out there yesterday. Joining me on

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Speaker 1: the line right now is Tonys from the Noonamar Tavern.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Tony.

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Speaker 2: How are you, Cadie.

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Speaker 1: I'm not too bad, mate, I know that you were

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Speaker 1: at that meeting yesterday as well. What was your message

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Speaker 1: for the government?

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Speaker 2: Look, I just think they, you know, will to share

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Speaker 2: fact that they cut down question time the other day

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Speaker 2: and continue to ignore that the crime is a major

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Speaker 2: problem at the moment. You know, it's the biggest problem

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Speaker 2: we've gotten the into, especially you know, Alice Springs is

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Speaker 2: even worse than what we're you know, they've been going

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Speaker 2: through a bit longer and worse than what we have.

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Speaker 2: But they just talk about it and you say, they're

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Speaker 2: going to spend money do these programs and nothing's actually working,

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Speaker 2: and they just need to make people more accountable for

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Speaker 2: that and it's just getting beyond ridiculous. People will sak

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Speaker 2: death of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Like I'm at that point, and I

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Speaker 1: know that a lot of people are at that point,

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Speaker 1: particularly people like you who been impacted by crime as well.

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Speaker 2: Tiny Yeah, well I was, you know, I can see

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Speaker 2: how upset the animal was still yesterday, because it's still

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty raw with what happened to them. We had

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Speaker 2: a ram rade about probably four four months ago, and

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Speaker 2: the same thing. It took us, you know, several weeks

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Speaker 2: to get back to normal for repairs and damage. And

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Speaker 2: that that's the only claim of at all year because

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Speaker 2: my access is so oh now, all these small claims

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Speaker 2: you don't even bother anymore because the insurance companies you know,

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Speaker 2: won't won't cover those those small climbs because because the

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Speaker 2: excess is crept up so much, so you know, you

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Speaker 2: end up paying for a lot of that out as

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Speaker 2: your cash flow of the time. And I just think

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Speaker 2: it's about time when they catch these little pricks that

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Speaker 2: they make them accountable for the damage. They should be

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Speaker 2: paying for it, and if they can't, their bloody parents

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Speaker 2: should be. It's just discussing what they get away with.

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Speaker 2: And every straight away they just turned them around into

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Speaker 2: the victims because of their upbringing. Well that's not our fault.

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Speaker 2: We didn't. We didn't, we didn't cause that. Now, it's

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Speaker 2: just ridiculous, tiny tell me.

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Speaker 1: With that insurance. So what's the situation for you guys, right? Now,

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Speaker 1: like you've said there, obviously, if you if you make

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Speaker 1: a claim, you know it's it's a big one, particularly

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Speaker 1: after something like a ram ride. So what's the situation

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Speaker 1: then for you guys when it comes to your insurance.

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Speaker 1: Is it still sustainable or attainable for you to kind

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Speaker 1: of even make a claim?

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Speaker 2: Oh? It is, but it gets harder and harder every year.

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Speaker 2: And basically the insurance count logo my excess man was

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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars. So basically they say if you've got

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Speaker 2: any small claims that they wipe the hands of it

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Speaker 2: and you've got to deal with it yourself. So air

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Speaker 2: Ram made wasn't as bad as at a Berry, but

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Speaker 2: it still probably cost us twenty grand. Yep, so I

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Speaker 2: got fifteen backs. But most of these small claims with

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Speaker 2: a mash it wind, you know, the deal might be

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Speaker 2: one for three grand, depending on what how much glass

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Speaker 2: they break, the much damiages do and generally they get

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Speaker 2: in and you luck, I say, take a hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's just and the inconvenience's sitting around trying to get

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Speaker 2: a glaze ye at three o'clock in the morning and

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Speaker 2: waiting for the police to come there. And then forensics,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the cop is do an awesome job,

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Speaker 2: but they're they just think of the revolving doors.

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Speaker 1: So we had.

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Speaker 2: We've been okas well and had it one day there

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Speaker 2: we had three breaking had two breakings in three days, yep.

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Speaker 2: And three of the kids were the same ones from

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Speaker 2: two days before. They just hadn't quite caught up with

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Speaker 2: them yet. And even when they did slaps on the

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Speaker 2: rest of backhead on the street, it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I think the frustration that you're feeling

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Speaker 1: is the frustration that a lot of Territorians are feeling

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Speaker 1: at the moment. And you know, you're sort of in

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Speaker 1: a situation where the governments, like you've said, and like

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Speaker 1: Sloaney said, you know, they're saying that they're spending money

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Speaker 1: on this, they're saying that they're doing this, they're saying

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Speaker 1: that they're doing that, but what they're doing is actually

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Speaker 1: not making a difference. So they've got to start looking

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Speaker 1: at things a bit differently.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we brought it up yesterday and I

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Speaker 2: did two lots. I think managtry send things got to

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Speaker 2: come back gaver and how about we we make manatory

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Speaker 2: boot camp for all these kids, like it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: whether they steal something's worth you know, twenty dollars or

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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars up. When they steal, the current

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Speaker 2: calls damage. There's no accountability for their actions. There's no

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Speaker 2: pointancial accountability. Boot camps six weeks, boot camp straight out there,

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Speaker 2: a bit of tough love, but show them something at

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Speaker 2: the end, if they do the right thing, you incentivize it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're taking them out bush and military style camp.

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Speaker 2: But if they do the right thing, then they get

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Speaker 2: to go maybe fishing or doing something like that, or

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Speaker 2: sailing or hunting a rock climbing. But at the moment,

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Speaker 2: it's just that they must laugh at all us because

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Speaker 2: it's to them to become a game. It really has.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're bloody, we're you know, businesses like yourselves, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: are losing. There is no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll re you just one of our best chur

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Speaker 2: seasons ever. And I'm still proud to be a territory, yep.

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Speaker 2: But you know it's just for people coming out in

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Speaker 2: the state and all that, they must just shake their

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Speaker 2: head sometimes when they hear about things and you know,

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Speaker 2: and just see what goes on in a in a

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Speaker 2: beautiful little city with our itinerants and all that. It's

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Speaker 2: just there's so many better ways we could present present

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Speaker 2: fields for the series and industries. It's trust guiding from

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Speaker 2: from our point of view. It's a great place and

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Speaker 2: we want to encourage people to come back here and

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Speaker 2: visit again.

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Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely all Tiny in us from the noon of

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Speaker 1: our tavern. I always appreciate your time. Thanks very much

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Speaker 1: for having a chat with me this morning.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate the time to be able to have a

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Speaker 2: chat you know, and express your opinions and what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Much appreciated, No worries, Thanks Tiny