Speaker 1: Welcome to our first episode of a very outspoken Christmas
Speaker 1: our summer series for December. Every Thursday in the lead
Speaker 1: up to Christmas, we will be dropping a special interview
Speaker 1: episode and today's episode features the one and only Indy Clinton.
Speaker 1: Now on Tuesdays, it's back to our regular scheduling over
Speaker 1: summer with a new influencer episode every week. Let's get
Speaker 1: into the episode with Indy because it's a fun one.
Speaker 2: The Creator of the Year is Indy clar singing an
Speaker 2: insponsor like post shit, you just like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: You're so friendly and I get it. I think the
Speaker 2: same all the time. I mean, you want to supportive husband.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this for eleven years. You knew what
Speaker 2: he's getting himself into. Everyone on TikTok has said you
Speaker 2: look like this guy. I definitely see it.
Speaker 1: What is the wildest thing you've read online? That you're
Speaker 1: just like that is so far from the truth.
Speaker 2: Hey, this is just wild. That for me was a
Speaker 2: turning point because I was like, holy shit, people really
Speaker 2: do just make things up. What about Molly mate?
Speaker 1: Do you think she copied your baby names?
Speaker 2: Do you think she did see I keep questioning myself
Speaker 2: because I'm like, she doesn't know I exist. But I'm
Speaker 2: also like this lot of the chances I never said
Speaker 2: to myself, I want to call my kids outrageous, unique names.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of what I was drawn to. I
Speaker 2: don't want to birth a greg Or, like you know,
Speaker 2: like a ste I've been in this game for eleven years,
Speaker 2: and from every management I've had, I've always been taught
Speaker 2: never talk on anything ever. Ever, I just be quiet,
Speaker 2: be quiet. I'm like, why do I have to be
Speaker 2: quiet for once? Like I've been quiet my whole life
Speaker 2: on everything. Why do I have to be quiet about this?
Speaker 1: Indie first, Welcome to Outspoken. We were so excited when
Speaker 1: you said that you would join us because we thought
Speaker 1: you might hate us because initially when we spoke about you,
Speaker 1: we spoke about your decease to wear makeup and fake
Speaker 1: tan when you were giving birth. And I think we
Speaker 1: got our wires cross because is this something we would
Speaker 1: totally do as well?
Speaker 2: Totally. I remember when that episode came out and I
Speaker 2: listened to it. I actually wasn't even offended. It takes
Speaker 2: a lot for me to hate someone, but yes, I
Speaker 2: feel like now Cate can understand where I'm coming from
Speaker 2: when you are pregnant, right, you feel so out of body.
Speaker 2: You do not feel like yourself. You feel like an alien.
Speaker 2: You're putting on weight, you're trying not to put on weight.
Speaker 2: You're like getting hemorrhoids. I mean with soul. I literally
Speaker 2: had like athurnia in my groin, so it made one
Speaker 2: side of my vagina bulge. Like I felt disgusting every pregnancy.
Speaker 2: So honestly, the least I could do to make myself
Speaker 2: feel better was fake tan, put on some makeup. I
Speaker 2: don't care if it's going to come off if I'm
Speaker 2: pushing and I'm sweating, like at least I walk into
Speaker 2: the hospital feeling hot, and then that's the least I
Speaker 2: can do. And I just feel, like so many women,
Speaker 2: I have so much support, but I also had so
Speaker 2: much negativity, being like, how vain could you really be?
Speaker 2: I mean your brain and I'm like, what do you mean,
Speaker 2: I've literally just sacrificed the last nine months growing in human,
Speaker 2: Like this is the smallest thing I can do for myself.
Speaker 1: Well, family friend, she always says that it's actually more
Speaker 1: vain to not fake tan and to not wear makeup
Speaker 1: and think that you look amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm with her, give me her number. I agree. I
Speaker 2: just think there's so much judgment on women and what
Speaker 2: they choose to do. And I'm like, honestly, i've just
Speaker 2: carried this child for nine months. I feel disgusting. I'm
Speaker 2: going to feel disgusting for postpartum period. I may as
Speaker 2: well feel good for this short amount of time. But
Speaker 2: you know, it was funny when I had I think
Speaker 2: I did too many layers. When I had Navy like
Speaker 2: a fake tan, I do way too many layers. Because
Speaker 2: when he came out and I put him on the boo,
Speaker 2: I'm convinced he had brown like around his mouth from
Speaker 2: like the sucking and the swear, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm literally poisoning. My newborn child is gone
Speaker 2: by dads.
Speaker 1: See I'm jealous because I actually had an elective cesara,
Speaker 1: and I was devastated because they told me I couldn't
Speaker 1: wear makeup or tan. I was to my partner, I'm like,
Speaker 1: surely that's not true. Surely I can put it on,
Speaker 1: and he's like, do not put it on. So I
Speaker 1: had Sophie rush into the hospital room after Jack was
Speaker 1: born putting makeup on me, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry to the midwife.
Speaker 2: This is so embarrassing, but I just did not yet.
Speaker 1: You just feel so gross. Well, poor Kate had a
Speaker 1: whole load of people waiting in the waiting room as well,
Speaker 1: Like we were so rude. We came in right after
Speaker 1: she'd given birth.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you came in straightaway, like we were allowed
Speaker 2: into the not the birthing sweet what is it that operation?
Speaker 1: Oh no, we didn't go that far. We waited till
Speaker 1: she was.
Speaker 2: Were like knocking on the door.
Speaker 1: Well basically I got withered out of recovery and they
Speaker 1: were just like flocked to the hospital bed and I
Speaker 1: was like, what's going on? It was as well, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was beautiful. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I totally understand why you did that. Now, I mean.
Speaker 2: You you're with me. You guys were against me, now
Speaker 2: you're with me.
Speaker 1: We all learned and grow, don't we.
Speaker 2: Hey, how do you feel having your little boy called Jack?
Speaker 2: And Justin Bieber and Hayley just call back like you're
Speaker 2: a trend set of abe.
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like we're you know, very much
Speaker 1: on the same page now because you are with the
Speaker 1: unique names and I'm like Jack. Surely no one's really
Speaker 1: gonna I mean, it is in the top ten, are
Speaker 1: very popular names.
Speaker 2: It's a good name. It doesn't grow of what I feel.
Speaker 1: Well, that's because I'm pregnant at the moment, and so
Speaker 1: I feel you about the feeling like shit for all
Speaker 1: of them. I suppose it's only been fifteen weeks, but
Speaker 1: I'm already over it.
Speaker 2: But I just wait.
Speaker 1: I want some advice. I found out that I'm having
Speaker 1: a boy, and your names are so unique for your kids.
Speaker 1: I feel like I need a bit of inspo from you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but unless you like unique names, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna like mine. Like it's to call your child
Speaker 2: grass or tree, like come to me. I will give
Speaker 2: unique names. But do you know what, It's funny because
Speaker 2: when I before I had kids, I never like, I
Speaker 2: never said to myself, I want to call my kids
Speaker 2: outrageous unique names. It's just kind of what I was
Speaker 2: rawn too. And I've always kind of done what I've
Speaker 2: always wanted to do, so like it wasn't anything. I
Speaker 2: think Maybe's name for a girl. He was going to
Speaker 2: be Banksy, and I thought I was so unique. I
Speaker 2: was like Banksy, like the artist. And then I started
Speaker 2: seeing other people, like influencers call their daughters banksy, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, how did you think of that?
Speaker 2: Like that I thought of that first. So lucky he
Speaker 2: wasn't a girl but a boy's Name's hard because for me,
Speaker 2: I wanted to be strong and masculine, but also not
Speaker 2: like I don't want to birth a greg Or, like
Speaker 2: you know, like a Steevee, Like I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 2: not going to birth a baby, and they'd be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Steve, you beautiful little thing. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I actually have no Oh I wanted hawk.
Speaker 2: See you know what, Amy, You're not gonna like these names.
Speaker 1: Okay, I am a bit more of a traditional girl,
Speaker 1: but I like a unique name for the middle name.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that I did pick Edward, which is a
Speaker 1: very traditional.
Speaker 2: Name, but I think I was very traditional, I know.
Speaker 1: But with Justin Bieber, he went Jack Blues and I
Speaker 1: was like, I think it's very cool. Yeah, he needs to.
Speaker 2: The only thing with his name. It kind of reminds
Speaker 2: me of the cigarettes Winni Blues. Wait, they're the stress, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's something I.
Speaker 2: Mean, Winni Blues I don't know it just but like
Speaker 2: maybe that's not a thing in America, But I really
Speaker 2: I do like the name Jack Blues, like it's very
Speaker 2: justin Bieber.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about because Molly May she seemingly copied your
Speaker 1: baby name, Bamby. How were you feeling?
Speaker 2: Did see? I keep questioning myself because I'm like, she
Speaker 2: doesn't know I exist. But I'm also like, what are
Speaker 2: the chances.
Speaker 1: I think she would because she follows Tammy Hambro, so
Speaker 1: surely she. I mean, I haven't checked your follower list?
Speaker 2: Has she? Have you looked? I don't think she follows me.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what? And I do think it
Speaker 2: was coincidental because there are names out there. I mean,
Speaker 2: she thought she was being super original. I thought I
Speaker 2: was being super original. But I'm a little bit annoyed
Speaker 2: because now it's going to become this. I didn't watch
Speaker 2: her on Love Island, but I know I think it's
Speaker 2: like that whole there's a huge part of the UK
Speaker 2: that's really like tacking. They're like spirit like that, Like
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna call their kid bam there. I don't want
Speaker 2: the fuck Now, I'm not that original. Now that's gonna
Speaker 2: be every man and the dog's gonna be called Bamby.
Speaker 2: But no, I actually don't really care that she copied.
Speaker 2: She's just made it more of a trendy name. But
Speaker 2: I feel like that's how people probably feel when influencers
Speaker 2: like think they've discovered something and then actually every other
Speaker 2: person knows about it, and they get annoyed because they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: you've ruined everyone. Thank you?
Speaker 1: Do you know what's happened?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: I reckon she was following you, and then when she
Speaker 1: decided to call her daughter Bamby, was like, shit, I
Speaker 1: better unfollow Indy.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, yeah, she you know what, I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I think I take it as flattery. I don't really
Speaker 2: care if people cough me. The world's too big, Like,
Speaker 2: am I really think? I really think I'm that original?
Speaker 2: Probably not? I mean, and Badby is such a cute name.
Speaker 2: It's cute. I actually compare. I saw the baby's her
Speaker 2: baby a photo the other day. I'm like, oh, so
Speaker 2: it doesn't look like a bandby, and I feel like
Speaker 2: my Bamby does. But I think that's what every kid,
Speaker 2: every mom thinks about their name, right. It's like, but no, Molly,
Speaker 2: if you listen to this, I don't really care, but
Speaker 2: let's put them in the fighting ring.
Speaker 1: Your bamby is so cute. I mean, oh sorry, it
Speaker 1: probably sounds weird that I've got a parasocial relationship with
Speaker 1: your children, but she I mean, I'm probably glad that
Speaker 1: I'm not parenting her, as you're saying, because we were
Speaker 1: just talking about her waking up very early. But she
Speaker 1: is just so entertaining and so gorgeous, as are all
Speaker 1: of your kids. How did you feel when she was
Speaker 1: only eight months? Sorry, I'm just now doing the math
Speaker 1: in my head. I'm like, hang on, howse five?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Yes?
Speaker 1: Five months? That must have been an absolute shock.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was an absolute shock, And I actually think
Speaker 2: about it now because I'm like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: do feel now I've kind of come out of it
Speaker 2: where I can see from a different lens and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: that was a hectic ten months or even more because
Speaker 2: I I was obviously not on birth control. I was
Speaker 2: five months postpartum. I was still breastfeeding, and like, I
Speaker 2: got a lot of comments on my TikTok because I
Speaker 2: was like, how could I possibly fall pregnant because I
Speaker 2: hadn't got my period back right, So, like I wasn't bleeding,
Speaker 2: so in my head, I wasn't ovulating, and I went
Speaker 2: in for a surgery to get my cim three cells removed,
Speaker 2: and like you couldn't stick anything up you for two weeks,
Speaker 2: like no sex, no pad ones, whatever. I was like
Speaker 2: sweet and literally on that two week mark, we had
Speaker 2: sex and that's what I conceived. And I was like,
Speaker 2: and that was a real fuckery because that put me
Speaker 2: in high risk for the entire pregnancy because my cervix
Speaker 2: wasn't you meant to wait a year after that surgery
Speaker 2: because it like shortened your cervix and all those other complications,
Speaker 2: So I didn't think it was possible for me to
Speaker 2: fall pregnant. Then I started too, you know, the two
Speaker 2: with the classic two week weight is when you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, am I pregnant? And I these my
Speaker 2: period symptoms? And I knew straight away because I get
Speaker 2: like achy muscles when I'm pregnant, Like in the two
Speaker 2: weeks that's my first sign is kind of like oh,
Speaker 2: am I coming down with the flu? Or am I pregnant?
Speaker 2: And then when I took that test, I was shooketh
Speaker 2: I don't even know the words to describe I was like,
Speaker 2: this can't be real. It's funny whenever you take a
Speaker 2: pregnancy test, your mind goes to a hundred places right
Speaker 2: like you're excited, then you're like, no, this can't be.
Speaker 2: Then it's like, wait, what. We don't even ever have sex,
Speaker 2: how can this be.
Speaker 1: It's a miracle, baby, that's a conception.
Speaker 2: And it was just I was as soon as I
Speaker 2: took it. I'm very much someone that if a challenge
Speaker 2: comes to me, I'm like, Okay, we can't go over it,
Speaker 2: we must go through it. And I just kind of
Speaker 2: saw it like that. I was like, Okay. There was
Speaker 2: a few moments where I was like I can't do this,
Speaker 2: like Bambi's way too young. This isn't what I had
Speaker 2: planned for my year. And I went back and forth,
Speaker 2: and then I was like, you know what, I'll get.
Speaker 2: It was meant to be clearly. It just a little
Speaker 2: fast swimmer just got up there and that was so
Speaker 2: And then she was.
Speaker 1: I just loved the video that you filmed telling Ben
Speaker 1: about it, like your genuine reactions. How did he feel
Speaker 1: about that going on the internet?
Speaker 2: Oh my god. He was like he's become so good
Speaker 2: being on the internet. But it was funny because he'd
Speaker 2: been out for lunch, he'd had a few beers at lunch.
Speaker 2: He gets home and he's like, no, Like he probably
Speaker 2: was thinking, what do you mean immaculate conception. There was
Speaker 2: just no way, because we both knew I hadn't had
Speaker 2: my period back, and in our heads that was the
Speaker 2: only way if you're ovulating. But obviously you can ovulate
Speaker 2: without a period, which is now I've found that out.
Speaker 2: And he was just he was just as sure. He
Speaker 2: was probably more worried for me because he knows I
Speaker 2: don't really enjoy pregnancy. I mean, I love growing a
Speaker 2: human and I love keeping them safe in me, but
Speaker 2: like the changes you go through and everything that happens.
Speaker 2: He was probably like, oh shit, I've just come out
Speaker 2: of this enough for nine months.
Speaker 1: It's so hard because you were still breastfeeding as well,
Speaker 1: so you don't even have your body fully back yet.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know. And it was I was
Speaker 2: lucky though, because Bambi weaned herself at like seven months.
Speaker 2: Because they say when you become pregnant when you're breastfeeding,
Speaker 2: the milk changes flavor. It changes flavor, it goes a
Speaker 2: little bit more salty because of the hormones. So she
Speaker 2: weaned herself, which was a bit stressful because as we know,
Speaker 2: she's very defiant. She would not take a bottle or
Speaker 2: formula and I went through thousands of dollars trying every
Speaker 2: different bottle and formula and yeah, so she waned herself.
Speaker 2: But she wasn't a great breastfeeder. She was a bider.
Speaker 2: I mean it made sense. I looked at it out.
Speaker 2: I'm like, of course you were. Of course you hit
Speaker 2: my nipples until they bled every time I beg you.
Speaker 1: On the topic of Ben, I heard on your podcast
Speaker 1: when you had him on as a guest that he
Speaker 1: copped a bit of stick at work over being you know,
Speaker 1: suddenly on your TikTok? Was it true? You had to
Speaker 1: start blocking his coworkers.
Speaker 2: If that was true? And only this weekend. So I've
Speaker 2: been doing work on myself and I'm becoming just more
Speaker 2: at I'm just like, you know what, that's a your issue.
Speaker 2: So I unblocked them literally two nights ago because I
Speaker 2: was like, you can, he's kind of become more comfortable.
Speaker 2: The thing with Ben is he works in real estate
Speaker 2: in a very male dominated industry where having their wife
Speaker 2: or someone significant other on social media and putting their
Speaker 2: life out there is so foreign to these fucking old men,
Speaker 2: and they just want to talk and talk and talk.
Speaker 2: And I say fucking old men because I'm so annoyed.
Speaker 2: He's like, had to. I mean, you want a supportive husband.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this for eleven years. He knew what
Speaker 2: he was getting himself into. But like the judgment that
Speaker 2: goes on, it's like workplace bullying, like he only found
Speaker 2: out just a few days ago. Like this huge cotton
Speaker 2: on campaign we did as a family for Christmas, just
Speaker 2: got cent around a WhatsApp group and like this guy
Speaker 2: slagging him, and I'm just like, why do you do this?
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, he's Dan if he do and
Speaker 2: Dan if you don't. He's supporting his wife and his family.
Speaker 2: He's doing this on a side, we're making a living,
Speaker 2: and you still want to drag him. So I have
Speaker 2: unblocked them, but I'm also like I just don't know
Speaker 2: how to get them to stop. I'm like, do I
Speaker 2: need to take things into my own hand and message them.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'll message them, I'll post a story,
Speaker 2: trust me this, we'll get back to them. Becau was
Speaker 2: like no, please don't add any more fire. Because the
Speaker 2: thing is, it's one step forward, two steps back. Like
Speaker 2: he gets comfortable, he enters himself into this realm of
Speaker 2: social media. He supports me, he participates and shoots, and
Speaker 2: people love to see him. He has a great personality
Speaker 2: and he's fucking hot and he's funny and whatever. And
Speaker 2: then he sees these things and it makes him want
Speaker 2: to go back into his shell. So it's just like,
Speaker 2: and it makes it hard for me because this is
Speaker 2: my work and this is my life, and this is
Speaker 2: how we support our family. So then when these people talk,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys got to get with it. It's
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. This is a job, this is a career,
Speaker 2: just because I'm not in a suit selling buildings. But
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think, I just think. I just
Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys are so you guys wish that
Speaker 2: your partners at home could do this and have a
Speaker 2: jewel income. We're all fucking struggling. We all want more money.
Speaker 2: You don't need to bring us down for it. But
Speaker 2: he's happy you.
Speaker 1: Hit the nail on the head. They obviously just don't
Speaker 1: understand social media. I mean, it's funny because my other sister, Sofa,
Speaker 1: and I we run a PR business and sometimes we'll
Speaker 1: have meetings with some of the older gentlemen that we
Speaker 1: work with and they'll be like, oh, if you've got
Speaker 1: a podcast, we saw it on daily Mail and we're like,
Speaker 1: oh God, Like yeah.
Speaker 2: They just don't get it like they I feel it,
Speaker 2: and they don't realize the extent and how crazy social
Speaker 2: media can be, and it can it's so powerful. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, Ben, who does he work for our indy's career?
Speaker 2: Tell me anybody works for himself.
Speaker 1: I'm just sounds like a lot of jealousy as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does come down to jealousy as well.
Speaker 2: And it's just hard because he really comes out of
Speaker 2: his shell to help support me, and he's trying hard
Speaker 2: to support me because otherwise it would just cause so
Speaker 2: much conflict if I felt he was not supportive. And
Speaker 2: then he acts all this head noise at work and
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, it's not like this man's taking his
Speaker 2: close off on the internet, like he's literally like it's
Speaker 2: in our home. I don't know. It's just so foreign
Speaker 2: to them and they're so narrow minded. They just can't
Speaker 2: just move on with it, like have another topic of conversation.
Speaker 2: Is work really that slow? That's what you want to
Speaker 2: talk about? And like send in your WhatsApp messages, I'll
Speaker 2: give you something to talk about. Let me turn my
Speaker 2: top off.
Speaker 1: They call women bitches, but I mean that is just
Speaker 1: such a bitchy.
Speaker 2: Behavior for me, I know, and it's so and he
Speaker 2: takes it on so well, Like he didn't want to
Speaker 2: tell me when he told me yesterday or the day before,
Speaker 2: he was like, I don't want to tell you because
Speaker 2: I don't want you to do anything and I don't
Speaker 2: want you to get on your story and help life.
Speaker 1: He knows me too well.
Speaker 2: He knows me too well. Like anything, if someone says something,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll get on my stories, don't you? Or
Speaker 2: I got hit.
Speaker 1: It's so annoying though.
Speaker 2: Kids.
Speaker 1: That cotton On campaign, you guys killed it. Like we
Speaker 1: went and bought the pajamas. We bought some for our
Speaker 1: husbands because we're going to force them to wear them
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day in the morning. Like you guys. The
Speaker 1: pajamas are so good as well.
Speaker 2: They're so cute. That was such a fun campaign to shoot.
Speaker 2: It was like a big family campaign. Now first one
Speaker 2: we've done. I've done a few shoots with the kids,
Speaker 2: but I had been involved and it was just but
Speaker 2: you know the funny thing that like an image you
Speaker 2: could never tell, but we were. We had to shoot
Speaker 2: it in the middle of winter in July, and Bamby
Speaker 2: all my kids had like influenza, a like if you
Speaker 2: have kids, you know, it's the worst type of sickness
Speaker 2: they can have. They were so sick. Bamby had just
Speaker 2: come out of it, so she was like on the
Speaker 2: last day with more energy, but Navy was on day one.
Speaker 2: Soul was on day one. I had to dose these
Speaker 2: kids out with padded old europan You can kind of
Speaker 2: tell in Navy's eyes if you look at the photos,
Speaker 2: like he's not well. It was not himself. And like
Speaker 2: I told than that because we're going to push it
Speaker 2: back a day, and they were like, do you think
Speaker 2: they'd be sick of though if we push it back
Speaker 2: a day? And thank god we didn't, because just lasted
Speaker 2: about eight days. They were so so sick. But I
Speaker 2: was just like, oh God, of course, like what are
Speaker 2: the chances my kids are so sick on this family
Speaker 2: shoot and they're trying to make it fun and I'm
Speaker 2: there like counting the hours. Okay, only twenty more minutes
Speaker 2: so they can have more Europine.
Speaker 1: But it lived.
Speaker 2: It was magical. I mean, at least at least it
Speaker 2: looked magical and that all dose stuff on panel on Europin.
Speaker 2: But it was It's tough shooting with kids, Like you
Speaker 2: can't really tell your kids like come on, just push through.
Speaker 2: Come on, just like just a few more photos, just
Speaker 2: pushed through. You can do it than you know, Like
Speaker 2: I was trying so hard. I had to uber eat
Speaker 2: bubblegum and like I'm there holding up like you know
Speaker 2: that old school bubble gum that's wrapped in a wheel
Speaker 2: and I'm holding up showing navy ban. You can have this,
Speaker 2: just keep bouncing on the there like it's you have
Speaker 2: to really have a good photographer, which we did to
Speaker 2: be able to work with kids because then and obviously
Speaker 2: had the same stamina as adults. And you have to
Speaker 2: kind of like make a fun and like not be
Speaker 2: too serious on the photo you want. You just kind
Speaker 2: of have to roll with the punches. But it was
Speaker 2: really fun shooting with Colin and the kids loved it,
Speaker 2: and I want to get the whole thing printed and framed,
Speaker 2: and I want to show up their eighteenth Have.
Speaker 1: They been in store and seen all of the cutouts
Speaker 1: and everything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually have been in store. Ben hasn't, but
Speaker 2: I got to take the kids. Oh no, sorry, I
Speaker 2: did take the kids in. They love seeing themselves. It's
Speaker 2: so funny. They don't maybe kind of gets it. But
Speaker 2: he's also like, why my friends not on it? And
Speaker 2: I was like, ah, but that's a that's an interesting question.
Speaker 1: Maybe kind of answer the daddy's friends at work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but yeah, it's it's crazy to see their
Speaker 2: reactions when you take them in and they're trying to
Speaker 2: like figure out why they're in the middle of a
Speaker 2: shopping center like the front. But no, he's starting to
Speaker 2: understan and what I do kind of he thinks I record.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean I record? I think
Speaker 2: he thinks the podcast is like my main thing, which
Speaker 2: is cute.
Speaker 1: I'm loving your podcast, by the way, and you've had
Speaker 1: some pretty well i'd say controversial influences on the podcast,
Speaker 1: but like really popular one. Sophie Casia, Sarah's Day. I mean,
Speaker 1: Martha Califititas, She's I don't know, she's kind of got loved, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what do they really like? Are they as they
Speaker 1: appear on YouTube?
Speaker 2: So the fact I didn't actually know who so Vucacia
Speaker 2: was before I had her on the podcast, like I
Speaker 2: had seen her name bounce around. I guess for you guys,
Speaker 2: but I had no idea who she was. And I'm
Speaker 2: not just saying that I only got her wrong because
Speaker 2: a friend through Chemist Warehouse was good friends with her
Speaker 2: and she was like, she's really good because she's at mom.
Speaker 2: She was a mummy blogger, she was. What I learned
Speaker 2: was that she was one of the first with a
Speaker 2: mummy blog or a blog before Instagram or something like that,
Speaker 2: and that's how she got big. I know nothing about
Speaker 2: her controversies. And that's the same with Sarah. It's so
Speaker 2: funny because I see these things online and I know
Speaker 2: nothing about it. And I don't know if it's because
Speaker 2: I'm so deep down in motherhood that I actually my
Speaker 2: windows are so narrow and I'm just kind of like
Speaker 2: my work and my kids are my focus, or if
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like that doesn't affect me. I don't know,
Speaker 2: because the thing is, I guess with influences, like for me,
Speaker 2: everyone in my life annoys me right, my mom, my sister,
Speaker 2: and my husband. Like Ben pisses me off, like everyone everyone,
Speaker 2: Everything everyone does is going to annoy you at one point.
Speaker 2: You know your values aren't going to align. And things
Speaker 2: that Ben does, I don't agree with things he says
Speaker 2: piss me off. But the thing with influencers right where
Speaker 2: everything's out public and online, so if I say something,
Speaker 2: someone's gonna pick it apart, create a controversy. There's so
Speaker 2: many things I see influencers do. I'm like, fuck, you
Speaker 2: are so annoying, and I get it, Like I get
Speaker 2: it because they're putting their life out online. But I'm
Speaker 2: sure that everyone can relate. Their best friends are so annoying.
Speaker 2: They're just lucky they don't put their life out online
Speaker 2: to get picked apart. So maybe that's why I don't
Speaker 2: see controversies because I don't. But of course, if someone
Speaker 2: does a huge thing that's racist, homophobic, I get it.
Speaker 2: Canceled the motherfucker. But like, I don't see the small controversies.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because I know I'm just as annoying and
Speaker 2: I just don't post that. And so these girls like
Speaker 2: Sarah and Sophie, I don't know their controversies. But in
Speaker 2: real life, I've known Sarah since she was I don't
Speaker 2: know how old she was, but since I was eighteen
Speaker 2: or nineteen. We met at fashion Week and I remember
Speaker 2: her so well. She rocked up in her leggings and
Speaker 2: her jumper and these big aviators and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this girl is so random. But I
Speaker 2: love that she just dresses how she wants to dress,
Speaker 2: like we're at fashion week and she's just on brand.
Speaker 2: And yes, I've known her for quite a while. I've
Speaker 2: always we haven't ever really caught up. We've caught up
Speaker 2: maybe once, and she's I think she's great. I just
Speaker 2: think anyone with kids and businesses and navigating mum life,
Speaker 2: work life and fucking relationship life, like, I just think
Speaker 2: they're a boss. And I do see it's hard on
Speaker 2: social media because you get judged for anything you really do,
Speaker 2: and putting your life out there is never easy. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some days they just want to like
Speaker 2: quit because they're always getting picked apart. But yeah, they
Speaker 2: were really they're cool girls. I admire moms though for starters,
Speaker 2: I think mums are epic, like even from the get go,
Speaker 2: once you're pregnant, you start sacrificing your life. I think
Speaker 2: they're amazing. But even more so, they've got businesses and
Speaker 2: they've both got books and ebooks and this and that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how the hell do you have time? Like
Speaker 2: you guys like honestly just trying to navigate mum life
Speaker 2: and you throw in a business or two or three
Speaker 2: or however many they have. I really do admire them
Speaker 2: and how they can navigate that. And I mean, I
Speaker 2: pretty much want to throw the bloody toys out of
Speaker 2: the cot every week and give up social media. I
Speaker 2: can't imagine how age Well that's.
Speaker 1: The thing I think sometimes, especially some of these controversies
Speaker 1: and whatever, they get blown up so much and people
Speaker 1: forget that there are real people behind it. And obviously
Speaker 1: our podcast we focus on influencer controversies, but sometimes we're like,
Speaker 1: it's just fun, Like it's you know, it's like a
Speaker 1: funny controversy. Like spoke recently about what was it the
Speaker 1: Hawaiian coffee that Sarah's day had that was nine dollars
Speaker 1: or something, you know what I mean? And I suppose
Speaker 1: that's a good thing to remember, even as a listener
Speaker 1: of our show. For the listeners that sometimes I just
Speaker 1: have fun with it. Let's not attack somebody completely, let's
Speaker 1: have a laugh about it. I think around twenty twenty
Speaker 1: people got a little bit too picky and like we
Speaker 1: were included as well. Some of the stories I look
Speaker 1: back that we reported on. I'm like everyone was angry
Speaker 1: at home. We were all locked away and angry.
Speaker 2: We were stuck inside and singing. An influencer like posts shit,
Speaker 2: you just like shut the fuck up. You don't try
Speaker 2: And I get it. I think the same all the time.
Speaker 2: And that's why you're right. People need to stop taking
Speaker 2: things so seriously, because it's like your best friend would
Speaker 2: complain about a nine dollar coffee too. I would complain,
Speaker 2: like she just she's just an influencer that posts her
Speaker 2: life twenty four to seven, so she gives us a
Speaker 2: platform to look at her and oh, you're so annoying.
Speaker 2: But actually everyone does it where you just show it online,
Speaker 2: which I guess are the pros and cons of showing
Speaker 2: your life online. Right, you're open to criticism, but I
Speaker 2: think people are They take things too seriously and needs
Speaker 2: to be more fun and light hearted. And just like
Speaker 2: you can find me annoying, that's fine, but I probably
Speaker 2: find you just as annoying, but you don't have to
Speaker 2: call it off.
Speaker 1: That's so true. What about like platforms do you delve
Speaker 1: much into I mean, I don't even want to neigh
Speaker 1: it tattle like that is a very toxic place.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is toxic. And I got into
Speaker 2: a really bad rhythm of obsessing over it, like I
Speaker 2: love seeing all people say about me because I either
Speaker 2: laugh or I cry, like sometimes I want a reason
Speaker 2: to cry, like it's so bad for my mental health,
Speaker 2: and that is probably why I'm seeing a therapist. But no,
Speaker 2: I was reading a lot into it, and my therapist
Speaker 2: has taught me. He's like why, like why and I'm
Speaker 2: like I don't know, because I just kind of want
Speaker 2: to see what people are saying. He's like, why you
Speaker 2: can't control it and are you going to change for them?
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, you guys, okay, so watch
Speaker 2: your purpose of reading. I'm like, I don't know. Probably
Speaker 2: feel shit about myself, I guess. And he was like,
Speaker 2: you need to stop reading this because it's really not
Speaker 2: if it's not benefiting your life or yourself or your family,
Speaker 2: Like what, who cares what other people's opinions say like,
Speaker 2: you haven't cared for years. Why. I'm like, it's not
Speaker 2: that I care. He's like, what you do? I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: you're right. I got to stop reading it. And I
Speaker 2: do think it was subconsciously having a negative impact on
Speaker 2: my mental health, because you know, I'd wake up grumpy
Speaker 2: one morning and I didn't really have a reason why
Speaker 2: I was grumpy. I wasn't tired. I should be happy,
Speaker 2: but I was like, I do think it's eating away
Speaker 2: at me or I always had stomach pain. I'm like,
Speaker 2: why are these people saying this? Like it's just so
Speaker 2: What I hate about these forums is that they're faceless
Speaker 2: and they would never say it to your face, and
Speaker 2: they can literally just make up something from their asshole,
Speaker 2: Like they can literally just pull something out, make it up,
Speaker 2: say whatever they want. And then Daily Mail runs an
Speaker 2: article and I'm like, that is not true. Why are
Speaker 2: you listening to these people? And that's what annoys me
Speaker 2: because a lot of these media outlets now find their
Speaker 2: next you know what their next going to into. You
Speaker 2: write about Indy Clinton on forums and I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is so stupid. Why are they doing that.
Speaker 1: What's the wildest thing that you've read or even like
Speaker 1: the funniest thing that you're like that is so far
Speaker 1: from the truth.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is just wild and like so stupid to
Speaker 2: speculate on someone's ethnicity. But on one of those forums,
Speaker 2: they were saying, how Ben's definitely indigenous and I'm hiding
Speaker 2: it because I'm ashamed, and I'm like, what the fuck.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that could not be further from the truth.
Speaker 2: Number One, I would never be ashamed of that. I
Speaker 2: say to him, let's go get all your fucking ancestry
Speaker 2: dot com done. Let's I want to see what you're
Speaker 2: made of, baby, these lebonese. But I'm also like, like,
Speaker 2: why do I even have to explain that? Why would
Speaker 2: I ever be ashamed of ethnicity? And where are you
Speaker 2: pulling this from? For starters, Like it's just such a
Speaker 2: wild and like these are the things people make up.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you are so delusional. Where did you just
Speaker 2: pull that from? Literally, like I have no idea. They
Speaker 2: even named a specific group that he would be from
Speaker 2: based off where he grew up what And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you are just actually delusional? And that was that for
Speaker 2: me was a turning point because I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: people really do just make things up from their mind,
Speaker 2: Like how creative they just like having a ship day,
Speaker 2: how creative can they get? They smoke a joint and
Speaker 2: they just make something up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it must be frustrating as well because it's not
Speaker 1: like you can go on there and defend yourself and
Speaker 1: if you were to make a video, then it kind
Speaker 1: of feeds into the like the toxic nature of it
Speaker 1: as well totally.
Speaker 2: And that's my hardest thing I find on social media
Speaker 2: is never sticking out for myself because you're always told
Speaker 2: I have always been taught. I've been in this game
Speaker 2: for eleven years and from every management I've had, I've
Speaker 2: always been taught not to you know, it will just
Speaker 2: blow over. Never talk on anything ever ever. Just be quiet,
Speaker 2: be quiet. And that's why going back to Ben's work
Speaker 2: colleagues doing this, I'm like, why do I have to
Speaker 2: be quiet for once? Like I've been quiet my whole
Speaker 2: life on everything. Why do I have to be quiet
Speaker 2: about this? Like? Where does out here doing our own thing?
Speaker 2: And you guys still want to drag? Like I need
Speaker 2: to put you guys into your place because otherwise it's
Speaker 2: not going to blow over. This thing. It's just like
Speaker 2: a bulling mentality, and I do think these forums have
Speaker 2: this bulling mentality too. It's like, what's the last straw
Speaker 2: for you guys? I mean, do you want an influencer
Speaker 2: to take their own life? Is that when you guys
Speaker 2: stop bulling and being faceless behind a screen. It's so crazy,
Speaker 2: this bulling culture. And I see it so much, not
Speaker 2: just about myself, And that's why a lot of these
Speaker 2: forums are so so toxic and why you can't read them,
Speaker 2: because in the end, it's only affecting your mental health.
Speaker 2: Like they don't care. They're sitting at home, they're unhappy,
Speaker 2: they're probably not getting any love, they're having shit time
Speaker 2: at work, like they want you to feel that, and
Speaker 2: I've kind of come to terms with that, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can't. This toxic energy is gonna give me either
Speaker 2: IBS or I'm just gonna have like constant insomnia because
Speaker 2: i want to fucking check Tattle, which I should not
Speaker 2: be checking.
Speaker 1: It's so strange to be because I feel like you're such
Speaker 1: a much loved influencer that I didn't even know you
Speaker 1: had a tattle threat. I've actually, I mean I've blocked
Speaker 1: Tattle from my computer and we had to block it
Speaker 1: on Sophie, who's not here her phone, because there is
Speaker 1: just this intrigue. You can't explain it. It's a defensive thing.
Speaker 1: I think you're like, you want to know if there's
Speaker 1: something out there about you, You want to know what people
Speaker 1: are saying.
Speaker 2: It's totally when you kind of want to control the narrative.
Speaker 2: But then I'm also like, it's an uncontrollable narrative when
Speaker 2: it's made up or it's just based off like zero facts.
Speaker 2: But it's it's because you know, there's the tattle and
Speaker 2: there's tea time, Like I just they're all I find
Speaker 2: a little bit toxic in the way. I saw recently
Speaker 2: somebody posted about Ben's ex girlfriend photos of her in
Speaker 2: this in the house or sitting on the same furniture,
Speaker 2: and then there's just all these comments like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: how embarrassing that she kept this indy kept the same furniture?
Speaker 2: How could you live with yourself? And I'm like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck? Like this is literally this was literally Ben's house.
Speaker 2: Why would I come in as a girlfriend you met? Okay,
Speaker 2: sell all of your furniture because your ex girlfriend has
Speaker 2: sat her bum on it. I need it so like
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is crazy, Like why would I make
Speaker 2: him do that? Like I don't really care if we
Speaker 2: have the same dining chairs around the table with here
Speaker 2: four years ago, Like that was a house man. I've
Speaker 2: created a home. I've had you know, there's kids in
Speaker 2: this home. Now there's new couches with texts all over it.
Speaker 2: Like I'm just kind of like, you guys either are
Speaker 2: not parents or I don't know what's going on because
Speaker 2: you guys are picking apart the smallest things like why
Speaker 2: And I'm just kind of like, you guys, there's more
Speaker 2: to life, as if I'm going to be this crazy
Speaker 2: girlfriend that walks into this house being like you better
Speaker 2: get rid of all of the presents with your ex
Speaker 2: girlfriend has sat her bum on it, like what they
Speaker 2: don't see? I see that? And then Ben kind of
Speaker 2: knew it triggered me a little bit because I started
Speaker 2: being like, okay, like I want to change it all,
Speaker 2: even though I know, deep down you know, I've had kids,
Speaker 2: I've made it home. I've made it so loving, full
Speaker 2: of love, and I've bought new couches and now they're
Speaker 2: covered in text her. But even like explaining myself, I
Speaker 2: was like why am I letting these people affect me?
Speaker 2: I know what I've done to create a home. Why
Speaker 2: do I let the opinions of these people like really
Speaker 2: eat up inside of me? And Ben's like, okay, this
Speaker 2: is do you want it to? We can make a change,
Speaker 2: we can get I can literally put the dining tables
Speaker 2: out on the street tomorrow and you can buy new ones.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I don't even know why I care.
Speaker 2: I think because then I see the pile on of
Speaker 2: people and I'm like, oh my god, am I that
Speaker 2: delusional that I actually haven't seen this this whole time?
Speaker 2: And it's so obvious. There's almost two hundred comments and
Speaker 2: they're all saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm sorry, they're delusional. Like, for example, my husband,
Speaker 1: he was engaged before we got together, and I use
Speaker 1: all of the beautiful serving boards that he and his
Speaker 1: fiance got given at their engagement party. I'm like, fantastic,
Speaker 1: Like that's day, this is great. If you get rid
Speaker 1: of everything in d I'm sure that they would have
Speaker 1: been like can you believe she couldn't stand having the
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend's furniture in the house. How wasteful to you know?
Speaker 2: Like you oh, no, it's like you can never win
Speaker 2: in this instance. And to me, I'm like, that's not
Speaker 2: really important to me. Like I've like having some chairs
Speaker 2: and tables and things around that she was here, that's
Speaker 2: not I don't really care. I'm not petty like that.
Speaker 2: Like I would much rather create a home and a
Speaker 2: safe home and baby proof the home, as you guys know,
Speaker 2: is very important. I remove the cactuses and things out
Speaker 2: that we're going to hurt the kids, But like that's
Speaker 2: important to me, Like creating love and safety in a
Speaker 2: home is way more important. Like I really could not
Speaker 2: care less. You know, I would actually be more grateful
Speaker 2: if she left a few of her things, some hair
Speaker 2: straighteners and stuff that I could really use.
Speaker 1: This is, of course, a Christmas episode, and we haven't
Speaker 1: even touched on Christmas bar the cotton non commercial that
Speaker 1: your husband's colleagues were insanely jealous about. But I already
Speaker 1: know that you're a huge Christmas lover because you used
Speaker 1: to have a real Christmas tree until recently. Why the change?
Speaker 2: Do you know? What? It was too much upkeep. I'm
Speaker 2: so lazy like that. I'm like, Okay, I've got the kids,
Speaker 2: I've got the dogs and I have a malting dog.
Speaker 2: I do not need a malting Christmas tree now. And
Speaker 2: it was one of those things. I love the smell
Speaker 2: of real Christmas trees. I loved going to this lady's
Speaker 2: house out near the country and cutting it down myself.
Speaker 2: She gave me a train saw, like I got to
Speaker 2: pick the tree I remember taking maybe last year or
Speaker 2: not last year, the year before last, and we cut
Speaker 2: it down. It was so much fun. But also the
Speaker 2: reason why I did a change is because I want
Speaker 2: Christmas to start in November. Like I'm not putting up
Speaker 2: this Christmas tree in December and know that my tree
Speaker 2: won't die in three weeks. Because that's the thing with
Speaker 2: real Christmas trees, like they die, they die quickly. They
Speaker 2: smell good for a hot minute, but they die very quickly.
Speaker 2: So I've invested in this epic like two meter tall
Speaker 2: fake one. And then I've also bought pine trees smelling candles.
Speaker 2: I think pine trees is that what they are? Yeah,
Speaker 2: pine tree.
Speaker 1: Smelling important to have those candles because yeah, it has
Speaker 1: a bowsome hill tree.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it is okay, because it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I've just done the same thing. Always had a real
Speaker 1: Christmas tree. This year, I bought a Bolesome Hill because
Speaker 1: I wanted to put it up in November too, because
Speaker 1: this is that right now, well it is, but it
Speaker 1: was just to see if I got the right height
Speaker 1: for the room.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bosom Hill, they're great, They're so Honestly, this
Speaker 2: Christmas tree in credit it looks so real as well.
Speaker 1: Last year you actually I remember organized these beautiful personalized
Speaker 1: stockings and then it caused a mass sister.
Speaker 2: That's right, that was weird. I mean, it wasn't weird.
Speaker 2: So I just randomly I love Etsy, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: I order a lot of things from Etsy. I just
Speaker 2: ordered these incredible rugs that took so long to be
Speaker 2: handmade in Morocco, but like, I found them on Etsy,
Speaker 2: and I love supporting the small businesses on there. So
Speaker 2: I knew if I just found a random small business
Speaker 2: on Etsy that could make these beautiful little Sanda sacks,
Speaker 2: they were not going to know who I am. Of
Speaker 2: course the message I like, placed the order and I
Speaker 2: knew Soul's name. We knew Soul's name was going to
Speaker 2: be sold from the get gos. So I placed this
Speaker 2: order and then I get a message ba like oh
Speaker 2: my god, Indy, I'm a huge fan. I can't believe
Speaker 2: it places or I promise I'm gonna keep this name
Speaker 2: a secret. But she really leveraged off it, right, and
Speaker 2: she's like like I remember seeing things being like I
Speaker 2: know Indy Clinton's baby's name, and like she was I
Speaker 2: get it. I guess she's trying to monetize from it,
Speaker 2: and I get I love that she was hustling like that,
Speaker 2: but I was also like, wait, please do not say
Speaker 2: anything like I don't know you, but like have my
Speaker 2: back through Let's just kind of communicate through the air
Speaker 2: that like you're not going to say anything, please, And
Speaker 2: then I saw that huge stir because she posted something
Speaker 2: like she was very good at getting onto the marketing
Speaker 2: train and leveraging from that, like I don't know who
Speaker 2: trained her and media, but she nailed that, didn't She's.
Speaker 1: Out because she ended up sharing a name that it
Speaker 1: wasn't Soul's name, but it was another s name and
Speaker 1: it like fit all the clues, and everyone's like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, she kind of had your back though, because
Speaker 1: she put a bit of a red hairing out there.
Speaker 2: That's true, and you know what she's messaged me and
Speaker 2: she sent me. She said I completely changed her business,
Speaker 2: Like she said I sold out, because she sent me
Speaker 2: a jumper a few months ago with sleep deprived on it.
Speaker 2: And she was like, I just want to say thank you,
Speaker 2: Like you completely changed my business, like you sold me out,
Speaker 2: but you also made me so much money that I
Speaker 2: could buy another sowing machine, another this, and now I
Speaker 2: can elevate my business and another this another that exactly.
Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, well you kind of did
Speaker 2: it for yourself because you were really fishing with my name,
Speaker 2: weren't you. So you you should be there yourself.
Speaker 1: Look at you just supporting small businesses, and just.
Speaker 2: I love supporting small businesses. I'm like, wow, you are
Speaker 2: so I wish I could be you. Like I support
Speaker 2: the hustle, I mean especially and then especially mums. I
Speaker 2: just I have this thing for mums because now I'm
Speaker 2: in it, I know how hard it is. And so
Speaker 2: whenever I see a mum on the street or a
Speaker 2: mum pustling with a small business or aside business, I'm like,
Speaker 2: of course, have my money, take my money.
Speaker 1: I support you, exploit my name and whatnot for your.
Speaker 2: Use my name, run through the dirt. I will support you.
Speaker 2: This is what my self development is teaching me.
Speaker 1: CLIMATE would really love to do a quick Christmas quiz
Speaker 1: before we go with you, and it's basically we've got
Speaker 1: ourselves in hot water before for giving opinions based on
Speaker 1: Christmas food and Easter food anyway, so I kind of
Speaker 1: want to hear yours. You know those tears on the
Speaker 1: internet that are like god tier, mid tier and meth.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen those.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm too old. No, definitely not, because so you're
Speaker 2: definitely not.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're too young.
Speaker 2: Ye, true, God tear is the best, and then yeah.
Speaker 1: Tear is like good and yeah, so Pavlova, where does
Speaker 1: that sit?
Speaker 2: I personally think pavlova is me. I only like the
Speaker 2: fresh fruit on it because it's too sweet. The white meringue.
Speaker 2: I hate meringue. I think meringue is like just as
Speaker 2: mad as a lemon tart. So like meh, a sorry
Speaker 2: egg too, was like an egg, Like the best thing
Speaker 2: about it is like either the passion fruit pulp or
Speaker 2: the fresh mango on it. But like, just give me
Speaker 2: that in a bowl and I'll be happy.
Speaker 1: That surprises me. Being like a beechy sort of, I.
Speaker 2: Do want to like it, but just like, actually, just
Speaker 2: give me a block of Cadprey chocolate instead it, I'll
Speaker 2: be happy.
Speaker 1: What about putting then?
Speaker 2: No pudding? Yeah, Matt actually makes me want to vomit.
Speaker 2: Ben told me that that is all he has had.
Speaker 2: His grandma makes Christmas pudding like Injuly, like date putting
Speaker 2: in July and freezes it until Christmas or something, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gotta be kidding me. And a few
Speaker 2: years ago she wanted to give us some and I
Speaker 2: was like, we're not taking that. Sorry, thank you, I
Speaker 2: appreciate the effort. We're not having that putting in our fridge.
Speaker 2: I'm not eating it. I just think it's too sweet.
Speaker 2: I'm not one second you're gonna eat it. If you are,
Speaker 2: I just think for me, putting is just way too sweet.
Speaker 2: Like I can have one date, but you cannot put
Speaker 2: a pudding of dates into my mouth.
Speaker 1: See, I bet Ben's grandma she would have put coins
Speaker 1: in the pudding, like. I don't know if you've heard
Speaker 1: of that, because I spoke about it recently to someone else,
Speaker 1: because our grandma used to put money in the pudding.
Speaker 2: Way, Oh well, give me some more pudding then, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to go to a house and get it
Speaker 2: out the freezer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like, oh, I think we've all been classically
Speaker 1: conditioned to light pudding just because of the cat.
Speaker 2: With us money in it. I definitely would have eaten it.
Speaker 1: What ifout Auntie she was rich and she used to
Speaker 1: put gold coins and we were like, she didn't She
Speaker 1: didn't bake them in because I think you can really
Speaker 1: poison yourself. So it was like on the side of
Speaker 1: the Yeah, so epic, what is your what Christmas dessert
Speaker 1: do you like? Then it's God tear for you?
Speaker 2: So I don't think this is very Christmasy, but I
Speaker 2: love Tiramissou. Tira missue is like my jam. Like serve
Speaker 2: me a tira missou on a reindeer and I will
Speaker 2: eat the whole thing, like I love Terra ma sou.
Speaker 2: But that's probably not Christmasy. If it was me, though,
Speaker 2: I would much rather fill up on all of the
Speaker 2: the ham. I'm new to eating ham, but I really
Speaker 2: love it now. Ham and Crawn's oysters, seafood. That's what
Speaker 2: I want to fill up on, and then I'll just
Speaker 2: kind of like make I actually just want to eat
Speaker 2: margaritas and champagne. That's where I would find most of
Speaker 2: my It's like I want to be the drunk Auntie
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day because last year I had misdiitis, so
Speaker 2: I couldn't be drunk. I was on antibio. So then
Speaker 2: I kind of just want to roll into some fresh
Speaker 2: fruit and maybe just into some Cabri chocolate. Like that's
Speaker 2: how basic I am. I am very basic when it
Speaker 2: comes to eating. I'm a really simple eater.
Speaker 1: I don't like sauces, let's be honest. I mean that
Speaker 1: sounds way better than like Christmas pudding. Just Cabria chocolate.
Speaker 2: Just give me some even just like Toddler, Like I
Speaker 2: just love. If I'm going to fill up, That's what
Speaker 2: I want to fill up on, like followed by a
Speaker 2: peppermint tea to wash everything down into an afternoon swim.
Speaker 2: Like Honestly, Christmas Day, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: We hope you have the most amazing Christmas and I
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing your bosom heell tree up in November.
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna take care. I got to set
Speaker 2: my up in November, so I'll take photos and sent
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: Yes please, I think yours is mine's like maybe not.
Speaker 1: I think mine's two meters too.
Speaker 2: Thank you guy.
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