WEBVTT - Indy Clinton Gets Outspoken 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:05.000 Welcome to our first episode of a very outspoken Christmas 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:09.200 our summer series for December. Every Thursday in the lead 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.320 up to Christmas, we will be dropping a special interview 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:17.080 episode and today's episode features the one and only Indy Clinton. 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.360 Now on Tuesdays, it's back to our regular scheduling over 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:24.560 summer with a new influencer episode every week. Let's get 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.640 into the episode with Indy because it's a fun one. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:35.839 The Creator of the Year is Indy clar singing an 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.040 insponsor like post shit, you just like shut the fuck up. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.920 You're so friendly and I get it. I think the 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.040 same all the time. I mean, you want to supportive husband. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.239 I've been doing this for eleven years. You knew what 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.760 he's getting himself into. Everyone on TikTok has said you 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.720 look like this guy. I definitely see it. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.560 What is the wildest thing you've read online? That you're 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.840 just like that is so far from the truth. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.520 Hey, this is just wild. That for me was a 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.560 turning point because I was like, holy shit, people really 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.360 do just make things up. What about Molly mate? 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.200 Do you think she copied your baby names? 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.640 Do you think she did see I keep questioning myself 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.080 because I'm like, she doesn't know I exist. But I'm 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.559 also like this lot of the chances I never said 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.640 to myself, I want to call my kids outrageous, unique names. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.200 It's just kind of what I was drawn to. I 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.800 don't want to birth a greg Or, like you know, 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.759 like a ste I've been in this game for eleven years, 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.240 and from every management I've had, I've always been taught 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.720 never talk on anything ever. Ever, I just be quiet, 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:42.440 be quiet. I'm like, why do I have to be 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.959 quiet for once? Like I've been quiet my whole life 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.039 on everything. Why do I have to be quiet about this? 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.360 Indie first, Welcome to Outspoken. We were so excited when 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.160 you said that you would join us because we thought 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.280 you might hate us because initially when we spoke about you, 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.000 we spoke about your decease to wear makeup and fake 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.440 tan when you were giving birth. And I think we 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.760 got our wires cross because is this something we would 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:07.760 totally do as well? 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.520 Totally. I remember when that episode came out and I 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.480 listened to it. I actually wasn't even offended. It takes 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.360 a lot for me to hate someone, but yes, I 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.560 feel like now Cate can understand where I'm coming from 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.080 when you are pregnant, right, you feel so out of body. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.840 You do not feel like yourself. You feel like an alien. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.200 You're putting on weight, you're trying not to put on weight. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.040 You're like getting hemorrhoids. I mean with soul. I literally 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.119 had like athurnia in my groin, so it made one 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.280 side of my vagina bulge. Like I felt disgusting every pregnancy. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.200 So honestly, the least I could do to make myself 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.520 feel better was fake tan, put on some makeup. I 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.000 don't care if it's going to come off if I'm 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.000 pushing and I'm sweating, like at least I walk into 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.640 the hospital feeling hot, and then that's the least I 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.880 can do. And I just feel, like so many women, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.640 I have so much support, but I also had so 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.480 much negativity, being like, how vain could you really be? 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.720 I mean your brain and I'm like, what do you mean, 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:05.560 I've literally just sacrificed the last nine months growing in human, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.959 Like this is the smallest thing I can do for myself. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.399 Well, family friend, she always says that it's actually more 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.240 vain to not fake tan and to not wear makeup 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.080 and think that you look amazing. 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.400 I'm with her, give me her number. I agree. I 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:22.600 just think there's so much judgment on women and what 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.800 they choose to do. And I'm like, honestly, i've just 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.160 carried this child for nine months. I feel disgusting. I'm 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.560 going to feel disgusting for postpartum period. I may as 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.800 well feel good for this short amount of time. But 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.640 you know, it was funny when I had I think 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.920 I did too many layers. When I had Navy like 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.360 a fake tan, I do way too many layers. Because 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.680 when he came out and I put him on the boo, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:48.920 I'm convinced he had brown like around his mouth from 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.040 like the sucking and the swear, and I'm like, oh 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:55.040 my god, I'm literally poisoning. My newborn child is gone 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:55.720 by dads. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.920 See I'm jealous because I actually had an elective cesara, 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.240 and I was devastated because they told me I couldn't 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.320 wear makeup or tan. I was to my partner, I'm like, 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.080 surely that's not true. Surely I can put it on, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.320 and he's like, do not put it on. So I 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.040 had Sophie rush into the hospital room after Jack was 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.360 born putting makeup on me, and I was like, I'm 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:17.520 so sorry to the midwife. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.480 This is so embarrassing, but I just did not yet. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.560 You just feel so gross. Well, poor Kate had a 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.520 whole load of people waiting in the waiting room as well, 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.520 Like we were so rude. We came in right after 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:28.360 she'd given birth. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.880 So yeah, you came in straightaway, like we were allowed 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.760 into the not the birthing sweet what is it that operation? 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.360 Oh no, we didn't go that far. We waited till 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:37.680 she was. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:38.880 Were like knocking on the door. 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.960 Well basically I got withered out of recovery and they 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.360 were just like flocked to the hospital bed and I 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.080 was like, what's going on? It was as well, So yeah, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.000 it was, it was. It was beautiful. But yeah, I 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.760 just I totally understand why you did that. Now, I mean. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.120 You you're with me. You guys were against me, now 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:57.719 you're with me. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.320 We all learned and grow, don't we. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.960 Hey, how do you feel having your little boy called Jack? 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.360 And Justin Bieber and Hayley just call back like you're 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:08.359 a trend set of abe. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.000 I know, I feel like we're you know, very much 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.160 on the same page now because you are with the 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.839 unique names and I'm like Jack. Surely no one's really 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.680 gonna I mean, it is in the top ten, are 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.320 very popular names. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.680 It's a good name. It doesn't grow of what I feel. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.479 Well, that's because I'm pregnant at the moment, and so 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.640 I feel you about the feeling like shit for all 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.719 of them. I suppose it's only been fifteen weeks, but 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:31.680 I'm already over it. 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:33.240 But I just wait. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.880 I want some advice. I found out that I'm having 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.960 a boy, and your names are so unique for your kids. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:40.919 I feel like I need a bit of inspo from you. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.560 Yeah, I know, but unless you like unique names, you're 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.480 not gonna like mine. Like it's to call your child 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.960 grass or tree, like come to me. I will give 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.800 unique names. But do you know what, It's funny because 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.840 when I before I had kids, I never like, I 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.000 never said to myself, I want to call my kids 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.800 outrageous unique names. It's just kind of what I was 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.360 rawn too. And I've always kind of done what I've 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.479 always wanted to do, so like it wasn't anything. I 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.560 think Maybe's name for a girl. He was going to 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.360 be Banksy, and I thought I was so unique. I 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.960 was like Banksy, like the artist. And then I started 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.520 seeing other people, like influencers call their daughters banksy, and 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:18.080 I'm like, oh my god, how did you think of that? 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.680 Like that I thought of that first. So lucky he 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.960 wasn't a girl but a boy's Name's hard because for me, 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.000 I wanted to be strong and masculine, but also not 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.760 like I don't want to birth a greg Or, like 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.160 you know, like a Steevee, Like I'm not gonna I'm 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.479 not going to birth a baby, and they'd be like, 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:40.120 oh my god, Steve, you beautiful little thing. But yeah, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.520 I don't know. I actually have no Oh I wanted hawk. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.320 See you know what, Amy, You're not gonna like these names. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.200 Okay, I am a bit more of a traditional girl, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.280 but I like a unique name for the middle name. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.200 I'm saying that I did pick Edward, which is a 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:53.719 very traditional. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.720 Name, but I think I was very traditional, I know. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.719 But with Justin Bieber, he went Jack Blues and I 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.280 was like, I think it's very cool. Yeah, he needs to. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.880 The only thing with his name. It kind of reminds 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.360 me of the cigarettes Winni Blues. Wait, they're the stress, right. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.000 Yeah, I think there's something I. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.560 Mean, Winni Blues I don't know it just but like 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.960 maybe that's not a thing in America, But I really 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.640 I do like the name Jack Blues, like it's very 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:21.400 justin Bieber. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:27.160 Yeah, what about because Molly May she seemingly copied your 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.560 baby name, Bamby. How were you feeling? 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.720 Did see? I keep questioning myself because I'm like, she 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.920 doesn't know I exist. But I'm also like, what are 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.080 the chances. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.640 I think she would because she follows Tammy Hambro, so 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.520 surely she. I mean, I haven't checked your follower list? 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.720 Has she? Have you looked? I don't think she follows me. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.920 I mean, you know what? And I do think it 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.360 was coincidental because there are names out there. I mean, 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.600 she thought she was being super original. I thought I 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.480 was being super original. But I'm a little bit annoyed 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.280 because now it's going to become this. I didn't watch 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.600 her on Love Island, but I know I think it's 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.440 like that whole there's a huge part of the UK 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.920 that's really like tacking. They're like spirit like that, Like 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.320 everyone's gonna call their kid bam there. I don't want 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.320 the fuck Now, I'm not that original. Now that's gonna 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.360 be every man and the dog's gonna be called Bamby. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.760 But no, I actually don't really care that she copied. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.880 She's just made it more of a trendy name. But 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.840 I feel like that's how people probably feel when influencers 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.480 like think they've discovered something and then actually every other 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.800 person knows about it, and they get annoyed because they're like, oh, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.240 you've ruined everyone. Thank you? 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:34.160 Do you know what's happened? 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:34.360 Though? 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.000 I reckon she was following you, and then when she 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.360 decided to call her daughter Bamby, was like, shit, I 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:40.440 better unfollow Indy. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.440 Maybe yeah, yeah, she you know what, I don't even know. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.320 I think I take it as flattery. I don't really 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.800 care if people cough me. The world's too big, Like, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.839 am I really think? I really think I'm that original? 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.040 Probably not? I mean, and Badby is such a cute name. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.079 It's cute. I actually compare. I saw the baby's her 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.440 baby a photo the other day. I'm like, oh, so 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:01.840 it doesn't look like a bandby, and I feel like 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.760 my Bamby does. But I think that's what every kid, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:08.720 every mom thinks about their name, right. It's like, but no, Molly, 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.400 if you listen to this, I don't really care, but 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:12.640 let's put them in the fighting ring. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:16.640 Your bamby is so cute. I mean, oh sorry, it 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.960 probably sounds weird that I've got a parasocial relationship with 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.559 your children, but she I mean, I'm probably glad that 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.400 I'm not parenting her, as you're saying, because we were 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.120 just talking about her waking up very early. But she 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.240 is just so entertaining and so gorgeous, as are all 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.800 of your kids. How did you feel when she was 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:38.120 only eight months? Sorry, I'm just now doing the math 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:39.880 in my head. I'm like, hang on, howse five? 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:41.480 Thank you? Yes? 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.280 Five months? That must have been an absolute shock. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.280 Yes, it was an absolute shock, And I actually think 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.440 about it now because I'm like, oh my god, I 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.719 do feel now I've kind of come out of it 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.760 where I can see from a different lens and I'm like, wow, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.400 that was a hectic ten months or even more because 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.760 I I was obviously not on birth control. I was 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.520 five months postpartum. I was still breastfeeding, and like, I 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.079 got a lot of comments on my TikTok because I 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.800 was like, how could I possibly fall pregnant because I 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:13.560 hadn't got my period back right, So, like I wasn't bleeding, 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.120 so in my head, I wasn't ovulating, and I went 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:22.319 in for a surgery to get my cim three cells removed, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.680 and like you couldn't stick anything up you for two weeks, 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.880 like no sex, no pad ones, whatever. I was like 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.160 sweet and literally on that two week mark, we had 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.760 sex and that's what I conceived. And I was like, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:37.560 and that was a real fuckery because that put me 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.800 in high risk for the entire pregnancy because my cervix 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.400 wasn't you meant to wait a year after that surgery 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.600 because it like shortened your cervix and all those other complications, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.840 So I didn't think it was possible for me to 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.480 fall pregnant. Then I started too, you know, the two 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.600 with the classic two week weight is when you're like, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.760 oh my god, am I pregnant? And I these my 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.840 period symptoms? And I knew straight away because I get 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.880 like achy muscles when I'm pregnant, Like in the two 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.160 weeks that's my first sign is kind of like oh, 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.800 am I coming down with the flu? Or am I pregnant? 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.400 And then when I took that test, I was shooketh 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.760 I don't even know the words to describe I was like, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.200 this can't be real. It's funny whenever you take a 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.840 pregnancy test, your mind goes to a hundred places right 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.800 like you're excited, then you're like, no, this can't be. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.000 Then it's like, wait, what. We don't even ever have sex, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:24.839 how can this be. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:28.800 It's a miracle, baby, that's a conception. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.840 And it was just I was as soon as I 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.480 took it. I'm very much someone that if a challenge 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.960 comes to me, I'm like, Okay, we can't go over it, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.240 we must go through it. And I just kind of 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.720 saw it like that. I was like, Okay. There was 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.160 a few moments where I was like I can't do this, 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.920 like Bambi's way too young. This isn't what I had 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:52.439 planned for my year. And I went back and forth, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.640 and then I was like, you know what, I'll get. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.959 It was meant to be clearly. It just a little 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.000 fast swimmer just got up there and that was so 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:01.400 And then she was. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.720 I just loved the video that you filmed telling Ben 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.000 about it, like your genuine reactions. How did he feel 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.400 about that going on the internet? 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.440 Oh my god. He was like he's become so good 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.880 being on the internet. But it was funny because he'd 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.280 been out for lunch, he'd had a few beers at lunch. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.000 He gets home and he's like, no, Like he probably 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.599 was thinking, what do you mean immaculate conception. There was 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.600 just no way, because we both knew I hadn't had 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.680 my period back, and in our heads that was the 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.800 only way if you're ovulating. But obviously you can ovulate 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:36.760 without a period, which is now I've found that out. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.280 And he was just he was just as sure. He 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.480 was probably more worried for me because he knows I 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.200 don't really enjoy pregnancy. I mean, I love growing a 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.880 human and I love keeping them safe in me, but 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.520 like the changes you go through and everything that happens. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.040 He was probably like, oh shit, I've just come out 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.040 of this enough for nine months. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.440 It's so hard because you were still breastfeeding as well, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.240 so you don't even have your body fully back yet. 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.959 And yeah, I don't know. And it was I was 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:09.320 lucky though, because Bambi weaned herself at like seven months. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.040 Because they say when you become pregnant when you're breastfeeding, 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:17.679 the milk changes flavor. It changes flavor, it goes a 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.960 little bit more salty because of the hormones. So she 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.160 weaned herself, which was a bit stressful because as we know, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.840 she's very defiant. She would not take a bottle or 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.960 formula and I went through thousands of dollars trying every 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:33.240 different bottle and formula and yeah, so she waned herself. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.800 But she wasn't a great breastfeeder. She was a bider. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:37.959 I mean it made sense. I looked at it out. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.960 I'm like, of course you were. Of course you hit 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.760 my nipples until they bled every time I beg you. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.760 On the topic of Ben, I heard on your podcast 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.800 when you had him on as a guest that he 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.400 copped a bit of stick at work over being you know, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.520 suddenly on your TikTok? Was it true? You had to 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.240 start blocking his coworkers. 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.199 If that was true? And only this weekend. So I've 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:03.240 been doing work on myself and I'm becoming just more 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.120 at I'm just like, you know what, that's a your issue. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.280 So I unblocked them literally two nights ago because I 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.200 was like, you can, he's kind of become more comfortable. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.120 The thing with Ben is he works in real estate 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.160 in a very male dominated industry where having their wife 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.960 or someone significant other on social media and putting their 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.920 life out there is so foreign to these fucking old men, 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.760 and they just want to talk and talk and talk. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.480 And I say fucking old men because I'm so annoyed. 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.920 He's like, had to. I mean, you want a supportive husband. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.080 I've been doing this for eleven years. He knew what 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.920 he was getting himself into. But like the judgment that 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:45.200 goes on, it's like workplace bullying, like he only found 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.120 out just a few days ago. Like this huge cotton 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.240 on campaign we did as a family for Christmas, just 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.760 got cent around a WhatsApp group and like this guy 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.040 slagging him, and I'm just like, why do you do this? 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.720 I'm just you know, he's Dan if he do and 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.720 Dan if you don't. He's supporting his wife and his family. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.400 He's doing this on a side, we're making a living, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.320 and you still want to drag him. So I have 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.640 unblocked them, but I'm also like I just don't know 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.760 how to get them to stop. I'm like, do I 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.480 need to take things into my own hand and message them. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.760 I was like, man, I'll message them, I'll post a story, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.280 trust me this, we'll get back to them. Becau was 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.880 like no, please don't add any more fire. Because the 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.840 thing is, it's one step forward, two steps back. Like 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:32.120 he gets comfortable, he enters himself into this realm of 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.560 social media. He supports me, he participates and shoots, and 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.680 people love to see him. He has a great personality 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.520 and he's fucking hot and he's funny and whatever. And 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.880 then he sees these things and it makes him want 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.000 to go back into his shell. So it's just like, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.920 and it makes it hard for me because this is 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.840 my work and this is my life, and this is 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.480 how we support our family. So then when these people talk, 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.040 I'm like, you guys got to get with it. It's 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.400 twenty twenty four. This is a job, this is a career, 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.360 just because I'm not in a suit selling buildings. But 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:08.040 I don't know. I think, I just think. I just 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.640 I'm like, you guys are so you guys wish that 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:12.760 your partners at home could do this and have a 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.000 jewel income. We're all fucking struggling. We all want more money. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.880 You don't need to bring us down for it. But 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:19.080 he's happy you. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:20.920 Hit the nail on the head. They obviously just don't 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.640 understand social media. I mean, it's funny because my other sister, Sofa, 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.560 and I we run a PR business and sometimes we'll 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.800 have meetings with some of the older gentlemen that we 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.600 work with and they'll be like, oh, if you've got 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.240 a podcast, we saw it on daily Mail and we're like, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.160 oh God, Like yeah. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.240 They just don't get it like they I feel it, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.520 and they don't realize the extent and how crazy social 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.200 media can be, and it can it's so powerful. And 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.440 I'm like, Ben, who does he work for our indy's career? 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.400 Tell me anybody works for himself. 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:54.680 I'm just sounds like a lot of jealousy as well. 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.320 Yeah, I think it does come down to jealousy as well. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.680 And it's just hard because he really comes out of 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.560 his shell to help support me, and he's trying hard 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.800 to support me because otherwise it would just cause so 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.480 much conflict if I felt he was not supportive. And 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.439 then he acts all this head noise at work and 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.399 I'm like, Okay, it's not like this man's taking his 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.800 close off on the internet, like he's literally like it's 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.240 in our home. I don't know. It's just so foreign 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.320 to them and they're so narrow minded. They just can't 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.600 just move on with it, like have another topic of conversation. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.320 Is work really that slow? That's what you want to 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.120 talk about? And like send in your WhatsApp messages, I'll 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:32.679 give you something to talk about. Let me turn my 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.080 top off. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.800 They call women bitches, but I mean that is just 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:37.720 such a bitchy. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.680 Behavior for me, I know, and it's so and he 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.399 takes it on so well, Like he didn't want to 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.359 tell me when he told me yesterday or the day before, 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.919 he was like, I don't want to tell you because 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:48.840 I don't want you to do anything and I don't 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.640 want you to get on your story and help life. 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:54.560 He knows me too well. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.879 He knows me too well. Like anything, if someone says something, 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.119 I'm like, I'll get on my stories, don't you? Or 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:01.359 I got hit. 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:02.479 It's so annoying though. 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:02.760 Kids. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.120 That cotton On campaign, you guys killed it. Like we 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.240 went and bought the pajamas. We bought some for our 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.280 husbands because we're going to force them to wear them 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.399 on Christmas Day in the morning. Like you guys. The 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.679 pajamas are so good as well. 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.679 They're so cute. That was such a fun campaign to shoot. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.280 It was like a big family campaign. Now first one 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.240 we've done. I've done a few shoots with the kids, 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.280 but I had been involved and it was just but 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.320 you know the funny thing that like an image you 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.320 could never tell, but we were. We had to shoot 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.840 it in the middle of winter in July, and Bamby 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.119 all my kids had like influenza, a like if you 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.479