1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to our first episode of a very outspoken Christmas 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: our summer series for December. Every Thursday in the lead 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: up to Christmas, we will be dropping a special interview 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: episode and today's episode features the one and only Indy Clinton. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Now on Tuesdays, it's back to our regular scheduling over 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: summer with a new influencer episode every week. Let's get 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: into the episode with Indy because it's a fun one. 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: The Creator of the Year is Indy clar singing an 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: insponsor like post shit, you just like shut the fuck up. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: You're so friendly and I get it. I think the 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: same all the time. I mean, you want to supportive husband. 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: I've been doing this for eleven years. You knew what 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: he's getting himself into. Everyone on TikTok has said you 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: look like this guy. I definitely see it. 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: What is the wildest thing you've read online? That you're 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: just like that is so far from the truth. 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: Hey, this is just wild. That for me was a 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: turning point because I was like, holy shit, people really 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: do just make things up. What about Molly mate? 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Do you think she copied your baby names? 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: Do you think she did see I keep questioning myself 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: because I'm like, she doesn't know I exist. But I'm 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 2: also like this lot of the chances I never said 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: to myself, I want to call my kids outrageous, unique names. 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: It's just kind of what I was drawn to. I 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: don't want to birth a greg Or, like you know, 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: like a ste I've been in this game for eleven years, 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: and from every management I've had, I've always been taught 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: never talk on anything ever. Ever, I just be quiet, 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: be quiet. I'm like, why do I have to be 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: quiet for once? Like I've been quiet my whole life 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: on everything. Why do I have to be quiet about this? 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Indie first, Welcome to Outspoken. We were so excited when 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: you said that you would join us because we thought 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: you might hate us because initially when we spoke about you, 36 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: we spoke about your decease to wear makeup and fake 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: tan when you were giving birth. And I think we 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: got our wires cross because is this something we would 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: totally do as well? 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: Totally. I remember when that episode came out and I 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: listened to it. I actually wasn't even offended. It takes 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: a lot for me to hate someone, but yes, I 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: feel like now Cate can understand where I'm coming from 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: when you are pregnant, right, you feel so out of body. 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: You do not feel like yourself. You feel like an alien. 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: You're putting on weight, you're trying not to put on weight. 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: You're like getting hemorrhoids. I mean with soul. I literally 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: had like athurnia in my groin, so it made one 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: side of my vagina bulge. Like I felt disgusting every pregnancy. 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: So honestly, the least I could do to make myself 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: feel better was fake tan, put on some makeup. I 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: don't care if it's going to come off if I'm 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: pushing and I'm sweating, like at least I walk into 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: the hospital feeling hot, and then that's the least I 55 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: can do. And I just feel, like so many women, 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: I have so much support, but I also had so 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: much negativity, being like, how vain could you really be? 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean your brain and I'm like, what do you mean, 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: I've literally just sacrificed the last nine months growing in human, 60 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: Like this is the smallest thing I can do for myself. 61 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: Well, family friend, she always says that it's actually more 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: vain to not fake tan and to not wear makeup 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: and think that you look amazing. 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: I'm with her, give me her number. I agree. I 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: just think there's so much judgment on women and what 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: they choose to do. And I'm like, honestly, i've just 67 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: carried this child for nine months. I feel disgusting. I'm 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: going to feel disgusting for postpartum period. I may as 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: well feel good for this short amount of time. But 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: you know, it was funny when I had I think 71 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: I did too many layers. When I had Navy like 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: a fake tan, I do way too many layers. Because 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: when he came out and I put him on the boo, 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: I'm convinced he had brown like around his mouth from 75 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: like the sucking and the swear, and I'm like, oh 76 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: my god, I'm literally poisoning. My newborn child is gone 77 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: by dads. 78 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: See I'm jealous because I actually had an elective cesara, 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: and I was devastated because they told me I couldn't 80 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: wear makeup or tan. I was to my partner, I'm like, 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: surely that's not true. Surely I can put it on, 82 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: and he's like, do not put it on. So I 83 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: had Sophie rush into the hospital room after Jack was 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: born putting makeup on me, and I was like, I'm 85 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: so sorry to the midwife. 86 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: This is so embarrassing, but I just did not yet. 87 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: You just feel so gross. Well, poor Kate had a 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: whole load of people waiting in the waiting room as well, 89 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Like we were so rude. We came in right after 90 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: she'd given birth. 91 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, you came in straightaway, like we were allowed 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: into the not the birthing sweet what is it that operation? 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, we didn't go that far. We waited till 94 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: she was. 95 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: Were like knocking on the door. 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Well basically I got withered out of recovery and they 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: were just like flocked to the hospital bed and I 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: was like, what's going on? It was as well, So yeah, 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was beautiful. But yeah, I 100 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: just I totally understand why you did that. Now, I mean. 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: You you're with me. You guys were against me, now 102 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: you're with me. 103 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: We all learned and grow, don't we. 104 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: Hey, how do you feel having your little boy called Jack? 105 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: And Justin Bieber and Hayley just call back like you're 106 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: a trend set of abe. 107 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: I know, I feel like we're you know, very much 108 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: on the same page now because you are with the 109 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: unique names and I'm like Jack. Surely no one's really 110 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: gonna I mean, it is in the top ten, are 111 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: very popular names. 112 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: It's a good name. It doesn't grow of what I feel. 113 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: Well, that's because I'm pregnant at the moment, and so 114 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: I feel you about the feeling like shit for all 115 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: of them. I suppose it's only been fifteen weeks, but 116 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm already over it. 117 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: But I just wait. 118 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: I want some advice. I found out that I'm having 119 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: a boy, and your names are so unique for your kids. 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: I feel like I need a bit of inspo from you. 121 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but unless you like unique names, you're 122 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: not gonna like mine. Like it's to call your child 123 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: grass or tree, like come to me. I will give 124 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: unique names. But do you know what, It's funny because 125 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: when I before I had kids, I never like, I 126 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: never said to myself, I want to call my kids 127 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: outrageous unique names. It's just kind of what I was 128 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: rawn too. And I've always kind of done what I've 129 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: always wanted to do, so like it wasn't anything. I 130 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: think Maybe's name for a girl. He was going to 131 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: be Banksy, and I thought I was so unique. I 132 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: was like Banksy, like the artist. And then I started 133 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: seeing other people, like influencers call their daughters banksy, and 134 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, how did you think of that? 135 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: Like that I thought of that first. So lucky he 136 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: wasn't a girl but a boy's Name's hard because for me, 137 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to be strong and masculine, but also not 138 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: like I don't want to birth a greg Or, like 139 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: you know, like a Steevee, Like I'm not gonna I'm 140 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: not going to birth a baby, and they'd be like, 141 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: oh my god, Steve, you beautiful little thing. But yeah, 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I actually have no Oh I wanted hawk. 143 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: See you know what, Amy, You're not gonna like these names. 144 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I am a bit more of a traditional girl, 145 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: but I like a unique name for the middle name. 146 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying that I did pick Edward, which is a 147 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: very traditional. 148 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: Name, but I think I was very traditional, I know. 149 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: But with Justin Bieber, he went Jack Blues and I 150 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: was like, I think it's very cool. Yeah, he needs to. 151 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: The only thing with his name. It kind of reminds 152 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: me of the cigarettes Winni Blues. Wait, they're the stress, right. 153 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's something I. 154 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: Mean, Winni Blues I don't know it just but like 155 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: maybe that's not a thing in America, But I really 156 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: I do like the name Jack Blues, like it's very 157 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: justin Bieber. 158 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about because Molly May she seemingly copied your 159 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: baby name, Bamby. How were you feeling? 160 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: Did see? I keep questioning myself because I'm like, she 161 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: doesn't know I exist. But I'm also like, what are 162 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: the chances. 163 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: I think she would because she follows Tammy Hambro, so 164 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: surely she. I mean, I haven't checked your follower list? 165 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: Has she? Have you looked? I don't think she follows me. 166 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what? And I do think it 167 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: was coincidental because there are names out there. I mean, 168 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: she thought she was being super original. I thought I 169 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: was being super original. But I'm a little bit annoyed 170 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: because now it's going to become this. I didn't watch 171 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: her on Love Island, but I know I think it's 172 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: like that whole there's a huge part of the UK 173 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: that's really like tacking. They're like spirit like that, Like 174 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: everyone's gonna call their kid bam there. I don't want 175 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: the fuck Now, I'm not that original. Now that's gonna 176 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: be every man and the dog's gonna be called Bamby. 177 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: But no, I actually don't really care that she copied. 178 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: She's just made it more of a trendy name. But 179 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: I feel like that's how people probably feel when influencers 180 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: like think they've discovered something and then actually every other 181 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: person knows about it, and they get annoyed because they're like, oh, 182 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: you've ruined everyone. Thank you? 183 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Do you know what's happened? 184 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: Though? 185 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I reckon she was following you, and then when she 186 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: decided to call her daughter Bamby, was like, shit, I 187 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: better unfollow Indy. 188 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, yeah, she you know what, I don't even know. 189 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: I think I take it as flattery. I don't really 190 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: care if people cough me. The world's too big, Like, 191 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: am I really think? I really think I'm that original? 192 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: Probably not? I mean, and Badby is such a cute name. 193 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: It's cute. I actually compare. I saw the baby's her 194 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: baby a photo the other day. I'm like, oh, so 195 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: it doesn't look like a bandby, and I feel like 196 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: my Bamby does. But I think that's what every kid, 197 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: every mom thinks about their name, right. It's like, but no, Molly, 198 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: if you listen to this, I don't really care, but 199 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: let's put them in the fighting ring. 200 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Your bamby is so cute. I mean, oh sorry, it 201 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: probably sounds weird that I've got a parasocial relationship with 202 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: your children, but she I mean, I'm probably glad that 203 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm not parenting her, as you're saying, because we were 204 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: just talking about her waking up very early. But she 205 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: is just so entertaining and so gorgeous, as are all 206 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: of your kids. How did you feel when she was 207 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: only eight months? Sorry, I'm just now doing the math 208 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: in my head. I'm like, hang on, howse five? 209 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: Thank you? Yes? 210 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Five months? That must have been an absolute shock. 211 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: Yes, it was an absolute shock, And I actually think 212 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: about it now because I'm like, oh my god, I 213 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 2: do feel now I've kind of come out of it 214 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: where I can see from a different lens and I'm like, wow, 215 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: that was a hectic ten months or even more because 216 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: I I was obviously not on birth control. I was 217 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: five months postpartum. I was still breastfeeding, and like, I 218 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: got a lot of comments on my TikTok because I 219 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: was like, how could I possibly fall pregnant because I 220 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: hadn't got my period back right, So, like I wasn't bleeding, 221 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: so in my head, I wasn't ovulating, and I went 222 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 2: in for a surgery to get my cim three cells removed, 223 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: and like you couldn't stick anything up you for two weeks, 224 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: like no sex, no pad ones, whatever. I was like 225 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: sweet and literally on that two week mark, we had 226 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: sex and that's what I conceived. And I was like, 227 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: and that was a real fuckery because that put me 228 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: in high risk for the entire pregnancy because my cervix 229 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: wasn't you meant to wait a year after that surgery 230 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: because it like shortened your cervix and all those other complications, 231 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: So I didn't think it was possible for me to 232 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: fall pregnant. Then I started too, you know, the two 233 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: with the classic two week weight is when you're like, 234 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: oh my god, am I pregnant? And I these my 235 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: period symptoms? And I knew straight away because I get 236 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: like achy muscles when I'm pregnant, Like in the two 237 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: weeks that's my first sign is kind of like oh, 238 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: am I coming down with the flu? Or am I pregnant? 239 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: And then when I took that test, I was shooketh 240 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know the words to describe I was like, 241 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: this can't be real. It's funny whenever you take a 242 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: pregnancy test, your mind goes to a hundred places right 243 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: like you're excited, then you're like, no, this can't be. 244 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: Then it's like, wait, what. We don't even ever have sex, 245 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 2: how can this be. 246 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: It's a miracle, baby, that's a conception. 247 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: And it was just I was as soon as I 248 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: took it. I'm very much someone that if a challenge 249 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: comes to me, I'm like, Okay, we can't go over it, 250 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: we must go through it. And I just kind of 251 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: saw it like that. I was like, Okay. There was 252 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: a few moments where I was like I can't do this, 253 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: like Bambi's way too young. This isn't what I had 254 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: planned for my year. And I went back and forth, 255 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: and then I was like, you know what, I'll get. 256 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: It was meant to be clearly. It just a little 257 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: fast swimmer just got up there and that was so 258 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: And then she was. 259 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: I just loved the video that you filmed telling Ben 260 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: about it, like your genuine reactions. How did he feel 261 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: about that going on the internet? 262 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god. He was like he's become so good 263 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: being on the internet. But it was funny because he'd 264 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: been out for lunch, he'd had a few beers at lunch. 265 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: He gets home and he's like, no, Like he probably 266 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 2: was thinking, what do you mean immaculate conception. There was 267 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: just no way, because we both knew I hadn't had 268 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: my period back, and in our heads that was the 269 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: only way if you're ovulating. But obviously you can ovulate 270 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: without a period, which is now I've found that out. 271 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: And he was just he was just as sure. He 272 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: was probably more worried for me because he knows I 273 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: don't really enjoy pregnancy. I mean, I love growing a 274 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: human and I love keeping them safe in me, but 275 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: like the changes you go through and everything that happens. 276 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: He was probably like, oh shit, I've just come out 277 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: of this enough for nine months. 278 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: It's so hard because you were still breastfeeding as well, 279 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: so you don't even have your body fully back yet. 280 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know. And it was I was 281 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: lucky though, because Bambi weaned herself at like seven months. 282 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: Because they say when you become pregnant when you're breastfeeding, 283 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: the milk changes flavor. It changes flavor, it goes a 284 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: little bit more salty because of the hormones. So she 285 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: weaned herself, which was a bit stressful because as we know, 286 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: she's very defiant. She would not take a bottle or 287 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: formula and I went through thousands of dollars trying every 288 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: different bottle and formula and yeah, so she waned herself. 289 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: But she wasn't a great breastfeeder. She was a bider. 290 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 2: I mean it made sense. I looked at it out. 291 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, of course you were. Of course you hit 292 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: my nipples until they bled every time I beg you. 293 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: On the topic of Ben, I heard on your podcast 294 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: when you had him on as a guest that he 295 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: copped a bit of stick at work over being you know, 296 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: suddenly on your TikTok? Was it true? You had to 297 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: start blocking his coworkers. 298 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: If that was true? And only this weekend. So I've 299 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: been doing work on myself and I'm becoming just more 300 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: at I'm just like, you know what, that's a your issue. 301 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: So I unblocked them literally two nights ago because I 302 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: was like, you can, he's kind of become more comfortable. 303 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: The thing with Ben is he works in real estate 304 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: in a very male dominated industry where having their wife 305 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: or someone significant other on social media and putting their 306 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: life out there is so foreign to these fucking old men, 307 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: and they just want to talk and talk and talk. 308 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: And I say fucking old men because I'm so annoyed. 309 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: He's like, had to. I mean, you want a supportive husband. 310 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: I've been doing this for eleven years. He knew what 311 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: he was getting himself into. But like the judgment that 312 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: goes on, it's like workplace bullying, like he only found 313 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: out just a few days ago. Like this huge cotton 314 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: on campaign we did as a family for Christmas, just 315 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: got cent around a WhatsApp group and like this guy 316 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: slagging him, and I'm just like, why do you do this? 317 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: I'm just you know, he's Dan if he do and 318 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: Dan if you don't. He's supporting his wife and his family. 319 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: He's doing this on a side, we're making a living, 320 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: and you still want to drag him. So I have 321 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: unblocked them, but I'm also like I just don't know 322 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: how to get them to stop. I'm like, do I 323 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: need to take things into my own hand and message them. 324 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'll message them, I'll post a story, 325 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: trust me this, we'll get back to them. Becau was 326 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: like no, please don't add any more fire. Because the 327 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: thing is, it's one step forward, two steps back. Like 328 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: he gets comfortable, he enters himself into this realm of 329 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: social media. He supports me, he participates and shoots, and 330 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: people love to see him. He has a great personality 331 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: and he's fucking hot and he's funny and whatever. And 332 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: then he sees these things and it makes him want 333 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: to go back into his shell. So it's just like, 334 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: and it makes it hard for me because this is 335 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: my work and this is my life, and this is 336 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: how we support our family. So then when these people talk, 337 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys got to get with it. It's 338 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. This is a job, this is a career, 339 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: just because I'm not in a suit selling buildings. But 340 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think, I just think. I just 341 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys are so you guys wish that 342 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: your partners at home could do this and have a 343 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: jewel income. We're all fucking struggling. We all want more money. 344 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: You don't need to bring us down for it. But 345 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: he's happy you. 346 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: Hit the nail on the head. They obviously just don't 347 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: understand social media. I mean, it's funny because my other sister, Sofa, 348 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: and I we run a PR business and sometimes we'll 349 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: have meetings with some of the older gentlemen that we 350 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: work with and they'll be like, oh, if you've got 351 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: a podcast, we saw it on daily Mail and we're like, 352 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: oh God, Like yeah. 353 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: They just don't get it like they I feel it, 354 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: and they don't realize the extent and how crazy social 355 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: media can be, and it can it's so powerful. And 356 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, Ben, who does he work for our indy's career? 357 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: Tell me anybody works for himself. 358 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: I'm just sounds like a lot of jealousy as well. 359 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does come down to jealousy as well. 360 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: And it's just hard because he really comes out of 361 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: his shell to help support me, and he's trying hard 362 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: to support me because otherwise it would just cause so 363 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: much conflict if I felt he was not supportive. And 364 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: then he acts all this head noise at work and 365 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, it's not like this man's taking his 366 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: close off on the internet, like he's literally like it's 367 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: in our home. I don't know. It's just so foreign 368 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: to them and they're so narrow minded. They just can't 369 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: just move on with it, like have another topic of conversation. 370 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: Is work really that slow? That's what you want to 371 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: talk about? And like send in your WhatsApp messages, I'll 372 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: give you something to talk about. Let me turn my 373 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: top off. 374 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: They call women bitches, but I mean that is just 375 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: such a bitchy. 376 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: Behavior for me, I know, and it's so and he 377 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: takes it on so well, Like he didn't want to 378 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: tell me when he told me yesterday or the day before, 379 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: he was like, I don't want to tell you because 380 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: I don't want you to do anything and I don't 381 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: want you to get on your story and help life. 382 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: He knows me too well. 383 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: He knows me too well. Like anything, if someone says something, 384 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll get on my stories, don't you? Or 385 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: I got hit. 386 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: It's so annoying though. 387 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: Kids. 388 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: That cotton On campaign, you guys killed it. Like we 389 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: went and bought the pajamas. We bought some for our 390 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: husbands because we're going to force them to wear them 391 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day in the morning. Like you guys. The 392 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: pajamas are so good as well. 393 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: They're so cute. That was such a fun campaign to shoot. 394 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: It was like a big family campaign. Now first one 395 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: we've done. I've done a few shoots with the kids, 396 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: but I had been involved and it was just but 397 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: you know the funny thing that like an image you 398 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: could never tell, but we were. We had to shoot 399 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: it in the middle of winter in July, and Bamby 400 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: all my kids had like influenza, a like if you 401 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 2: have kids, you know, it's the worst type of sickness 402 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: they can have. They were so sick. Bamby had just 403 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: come out of it, so she was like on the 404 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: last day with more energy, but Navy was on day one. 405 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: Soul was on day one. I had to dose these 406 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: kids out with padded old europan You can kind of 407 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: tell in Navy's eyes if you look at the photos, 408 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 2: like he's not well. It was not himself. And like 409 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: I told than that because we're going to push it 410 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: back a day, and they were like, do you think 411 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: they'd be sick of though if we push it back 412 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: a day? And thank god we didn't, because just lasted 413 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,719 Speaker 2: about eight days. They were so so sick. But I 414 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: was just like, oh God, of course, like what are 415 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: the chances my kids are so sick on this family 416 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: shoot and they're trying to make it fun and I'm 417 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: there like counting the hours. Okay, only twenty more minutes 418 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: so they can have more Europine. 419 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: But it lived. 420 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: It was magical. I mean, at least at least it 421 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: looked magical and that all dose stuff on panel on Europin. 422 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: But it was It's tough shooting with kids, Like you 423 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: can't really tell your kids like come on, just push through. 424 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: Come on, just like just a few more photos, just 425 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: pushed through. You can do it than you know, Like 426 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: I was trying so hard. I had to uber eat 427 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: bubblegum and like I'm there holding up like you know 428 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: that old school bubble gum that's wrapped in a wheel 429 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: and I'm holding up showing navy ban. You can have this, 430 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: just keep bouncing on the there like it's you have 431 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: to really have a good photographer, which we did to 432 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: be able to work with kids because then and obviously 433 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: had the same stamina as adults. And you have to 434 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: kind of like make a fun and like not be 435 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: too serious on the photo you want. You just kind 436 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: of have to roll with the punches. But it was 437 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: really fun shooting with Colin and the kids loved it, 438 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: and I want to get the whole thing printed and framed, 439 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: and I want to show up their eighteenth Have. 440 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: They been in store and seen all of the cutouts 441 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: and everything? 442 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually have been in store. Ben hasn't, but 443 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: I got to take the kids. Oh no, sorry, I 444 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: did take the kids in. They love seeing themselves. It's 445 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: so funny. They don't maybe kind of gets it. But 446 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: he's also like, why my friends not on it? And 447 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: I was like, ah, but that's a that's an interesting question. 448 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: Maybe kind of answer the daddy's friends at work. 449 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but yeah, it's it's crazy to see their 450 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: reactions when you take them in and they're trying to 451 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: like figure out why they're in the middle of a 452 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: shopping center like the front. But no, he's starting to 453 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: understan and what I do kind of he thinks I record. 454 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean I record? I think 455 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: he thinks the podcast is like my main thing, which 456 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: is cute. 457 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm loving your podcast, by the way, and you've had 458 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: some pretty well i'd say controversial influences on the podcast, 459 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: but like really popular one. Sophie Casia, Sarah's Day. I mean, 460 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: Martha Califititas, She's I don't know, she's kind of got loved, Yeah, 461 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: but what do they really like? Are they as they 462 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: appear on YouTube? 463 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: So the fact I didn't actually know who so Vucacia 464 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: was before I had her on the podcast, like I 465 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: had seen her name bounce around. I guess for you guys, 466 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: but I had no idea who she was. And I'm 467 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: not just saying that I only got her wrong because 468 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: a friend through Chemist Warehouse was good friends with her 469 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: and she was like, she's really good because she's at mom. 470 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: She was a mummy blogger, she was. What I learned 471 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: was that she was one of the first with a 472 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: mummy blog or a blog before Instagram or something like that, 473 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: and that's how she got big. I know nothing about 474 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: her controversies. And that's the same with Sarah. It's so 475 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: funny because I see these things online and I know 476 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: nothing about it. And I don't know if it's because 477 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm so deep down in motherhood that I actually my 478 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: windows are so narrow and I'm just kind of like 479 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: my work and my kids are my focus, or if 480 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like that doesn't affect me. I don't know, 481 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 2: because the thing is, I guess with influences, like for me, 482 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: everyone in my life annoys me right, my mom, my sister, 483 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: and my husband. Like Ben pisses me off, like everyone everyone, 484 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: Everything everyone does is going to annoy you at one point. 485 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: You know your values aren't going to align. And things 486 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: that Ben does, I don't agree with things he says 487 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 2: piss me off. But the thing with influencers right where 488 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: everything's out public and online, so if I say something, 489 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: someone's gonna pick it apart, create a controversy. There's so 490 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: many things I see influencers do. I'm like, fuck, you 491 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: are so annoying, and I get it, Like I get 492 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: it because they're putting their life out online. But I'm 493 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: sure that everyone can relate. Their best friends are so annoying. 494 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: They're just lucky they don't put their life out online 495 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: to get picked apart. So maybe that's why I don't 496 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: see controversies because I don't. But of course, if someone 497 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: does a huge thing that's racist, homophobic, I get it. 498 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: Canceled the motherfucker. But like, I don't see the small controversies. 499 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: Maybe it's because I know I'm just as annoying and 500 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: I just don't post that. And so these girls like 501 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: Sarah and Sophie, I don't know their controversies. But in 502 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 2: real life, I've known Sarah since she was I don't 503 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: know how old she was, but since I was eighteen 504 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: or nineteen. We met at fashion Week and I remember 505 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: her so well. She rocked up in her leggings and 506 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: her jumper and these big aviators and I was like, 507 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: oh my god, this girl is so random. But I 508 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: love that she just dresses how she wants to dress, 509 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 2: like we're at fashion week and she's just on brand. 510 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: And yes, I've known her for quite a while. I've 511 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: always we haven't ever really caught up. We've caught up 512 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: maybe once, and she's I think she's great. I just 513 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 2: think anyone with kids and businesses and navigating mum life, 514 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: work life and fucking relationship life, like, I just think 515 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: they're a boss. And I do see it's hard on 516 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: social media because you get judged for anything you really do, 517 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: and putting your life out there is never easy. And 518 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some days they just want to like 519 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: quit because they're always getting picked apart. But yeah, they 520 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: were really they're cool girls. I admire moms though for starters, 521 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 2: I think mums are epic, like even from the get go, 522 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: once you're pregnant, you start sacrificing your life. I think 523 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: they're amazing. But even more so, they've got businesses and 524 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: they've both got books and ebooks and this and that. 525 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, how the hell do you have time? Like 526 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: you guys like honestly just trying to navigate mum life 527 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: and you throw in a business or two or three 528 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: or however many they have. I really do admire them 529 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: and how they can navigate that. And I mean, I 530 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: pretty much want to throw the bloody toys out of 531 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: the cot every week and give up social media. I 532 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: can't imagine how age Well that's. 533 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: The thing I think sometimes, especially some of these controversies 534 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: and whatever, they get blown up so much and people 535 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: forget that there are real people behind it. And obviously 536 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: our podcast we focus on influencer controversies, but sometimes we're like, 537 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: it's just fun, Like it's you know, it's like a 538 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: funny controversy. Like spoke recently about what was it the 539 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Hawaiian coffee that Sarah's day had that was nine dollars 540 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: or something, you know what I mean? And I suppose 541 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: that's a good thing to remember, even as a listener 542 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: of our show. For the listeners that sometimes I just 543 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: have fun with it. Let's not attack somebody completely, let's 544 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: have a laugh about it. I think around twenty twenty 545 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: people got a little bit too picky and like we 546 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: were included as well. Some of the stories I look 547 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: back that we reported on. I'm like everyone was angry 548 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: at home. We were all locked away and angry. 549 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: We were stuck inside and singing. An influencer like posts shit, 550 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: you just like shut the fuck up. You don't try 551 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: And I get it. I think the same all the time. 552 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: And that's why you're right. People need to stop taking 553 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: things so seriously, because it's like your best friend would 554 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: complain about a nine dollar coffee too. I would complain, 555 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: like she just she's just an influencer that posts her 556 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: life twenty four to seven, so she gives us a 557 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: platform to look at her and oh, you're so annoying. 558 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: But actually everyone does it where you just show it online, 559 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: which I guess are the pros and cons of showing 560 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: your life online. Right, you're open to criticism, but I 561 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: think people are They take things too seriously and needs 562 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: to be more fun and light hearted. And just like 563 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: you can find me annoying, that's fine, but I probably 564 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: find you just as annoying, but you don't have to 565 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: call it off. 566 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: That's so true. What about like platforms do you delve 567 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: much into I mean, I don't even want to neigh 568 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: it tattle like that is a very toxic place. 569 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is toxic. And I got into 570 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: a really bad rhythm of obsessing over it, like I 571 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 2: love seeing all people say about me because I either 572 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: laugh or I cry, like sometimes I want a reason 573 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: to cry, like it's so bad for my mental health, 574 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: and that is probably why I'm seeing a therapist. But no, 575 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: I was reading a lot into it, and my therapist 576 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: has taught me. He's like why, like why and I'm 577 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: like I don't know, because I just kind of want 578 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: to see what people are saying. He's like, why you 579 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: can't control it and are you going to change for them? 580 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, you guys, okay, so watch 581 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: your purpose of reading. I'm like, I don't know. Probably 582 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: feel shit about myself, I guess. And he was like, 583 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: you need to stop reading this because it's really not 584 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 2: if it's not benefiting your life or yourself or your family, 585 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: Like what, who cares what other people's opinions say like, 586 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: you haven't cared for years. Why. I'm like, it's not 587 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: that I care. He's like, what you do? I'm like, okay, 588 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: you're right. I got to stop reading it. And I 589 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: do think it was subconsciously having a negative impact on 590 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 2: my mental health, because you know, I'd wake up grumpy 591 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: one morning and I didn't really have a reason why 592 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: I was grumpy. I wasn't tired. I should be happy, 593 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: but I was like, I do think it's eating away 594 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: at me or I always had stomach pain. I'm like, 595 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: why are these people saying this? Like it's just so 596 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: What I hate about these forums is that they're faceless 597 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: and they would never say it to your face, and 598 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: they can literally just make up something from their asshole, 599 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: Like they can literally just pull something out, make it up, 600 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: say whatever they want. And then Daily Mail runs an 601 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: article and I'm like, that is not true. Why are 602 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: you listening to these people? And that's what annoys me 603 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: because a lot of these media outlets now find their 604 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: next you know what their next going to into. You 605 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: write about Indy Clinton on forums and I'm like, this 606 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: is so stupid. Why are they doing that. 607 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: What's the wildest thing that you've read or even like 608 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: the funniest thing that you're like that is so far 609 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: from the truth. 610 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: Okay, this is just wild and like so stupid to 611 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: speculate on someone's ethnicity. But on one of those forums, 612 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: they were saying, how Ben's definitely indigenous and I'm hiding 613 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: it because I'm ashamed, and I'm like, what the fuck. 614 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, that could not be further from the truth. 615 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: Number One, I would never be ashamed of that. I 616 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: say to him, let's go get all your fucking ancestry 617 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: dot com done. Let's I want to see what you're 618 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: made of, baby, these lebonese. But I'm also like, like, 619 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: why do I even have to explain that? Why would 620 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: I ever be ashamed of ethnicity? And where are you 621 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: pulling this from? For starters, Like it's just such a 622 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: wild and like these are the things people make up. 623 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, you are so delusional. Where did you just 624 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: pull that from? Literally, like I have no idea. They 625 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: even named a specific group that he would be from 626 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: based off where he grew up what And I'm like, 627 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: you are just actually delusional? And that was that for 628 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: me was a turning point because I was like, holy shit, 629 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: people really do just make things up from their mind, 630 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: Like how creative they just like having a ship day, 631 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: how creative can they get? They smoke a joint and 632 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: they just make something up. 633 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it must be frustrating as well because it's not 634 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: like you can go on there and defend yourself and 635 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: if you were to make a video, then it kind 636 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: of feeds into the like the toxic nature of it 637 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: as well totally. 638 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: And that's my hardest thing I find on social media 639 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: is never sticking out for myself because you're always told 640 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: I have always been taught. I've been in this game 641 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: for eleven years and from every management I've had, I've 642 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: always been taught not to you know, it will just 643 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: blow over. Never talk on anything ever ever. Just be quiet, 644 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: be quiet. And that's why going back to Ben's work 645 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: colleagues doing this, I'm like, why do I have to 646 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 2: be quiet for once? Like I've been quiet my whole 647 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: life on everything. Why do I have to be quiet 648 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: about this? Like? Where does out here doing our own thing? 649 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: And you guys still want to drag? Like I need 650 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: to put you guys into your place because otherwise it's 651 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: not going to blow over. This thing. It's just like 652 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: a bulling mentality, and I do think these forums have 653 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: this bulling mentality too. It's like, what's the last straw 654 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: for you guys? I mean, do you want an influencer 655 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: to take their own life? Is that when you guys 656 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: stop bulling and being faceless behind a screen. It's so crazy, 657 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: this bulling culture. And I see it so much, not 658 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: just about myself, And that's why a lot of these 659 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: forums are so so toxic and why you can't read them, 660 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: because in the end, it's only affecting your mental health. 661 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: Like they don't care. They're sitting at home, they're unhappy, 662 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: they're probably not getting any love, they're having shit time 663 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: at work, like they want you to feel that, and 664 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: I've kind of come to terms with that, and I'm like, 665 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: I can't. This toxic energy is gonna give me either 666 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: IBS or I'm just gonna have like constant insomnia because 667 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: i want to fucking check Tattle, which I should not 668 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: be checking. 669 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: It's so strange to be because I feel like you're such 670 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: a much loved influencer that I didn't even know you 671 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: had a tattle threat. I've actually, I mean I've blocked 672 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Tattle from my computer and we had to block it 673 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: on Sophie, who's not here her phone, because there is 674 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: just this intrigue. You can't explain it. It's a defensive thing. 675 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: I think you're like, you want to know if there's 676 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: something out there about you, You want to know what people 677 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: are saying. 678 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: It's totally when you kind of want to control the narrative. 679 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: But then I'm also like, it's an uncontrollable narrative when 680 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: it's made up or it's just based off like zero facts. 681 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: But it's it's because you know, there's the tattle and 682 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: there's tea time, Like I just they're all I find 683 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: a little bit toxic in the way. I saw recently 684 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: somebody posted about Ben's ex girlfriend photos of her in 685 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: this in the house or sitting on the same furniture, 686 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: and then there's just all these comments like, oh my god, 687 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: how embarrassing that she kept this indy kept the same furniture? 688 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: How could you live with yourself? And I'm like, what 689 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: the fuck? Like this is literally this was literally Ben's house. 690 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: Why would I come in as a girlfriend you met? Okay, 691 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: sell all of your furniture because your ex girlfriend has 692 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: sat her bum on it. I need it so like 693 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is crazy, Like why would I make 694 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: him do that? Like I don't really care if we 695 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: have the same dining chairs around the table with here 696 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: four years ago, Like that was a house man. I've 697 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: created a home. I've had you know, there's kids in 698 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: this home. Now there's new couches with texts all over it. 699 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: Like I'm just kind of like, you guys either are 700 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: not parents or I don't know what's going on because 701 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: you guys are picking apart the smallest things like why 702 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: And I'm just kind of like, you guys, there's more 703 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: to life, as if I'm going to be this crazy 704 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: girlfriend that walks into this house being like you better 705 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: get rid of all of the presents with your ex 706 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: girlfriend has sat her bum on it, like what they 707 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: don't see? I see that? And then Ben kind of 708 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: knew it triggered me a little bit because I started 709 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: being like, okay, like I want to change it all, 710 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: even though I know, deep down you know, I've had kids, 711 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: I've made it home. I've made it so loving, full 712 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: of love, and I've bought new couches and now they're 713 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: covered in text her. But even like explaining myself, I 714 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: was like why am I letting these people affect me? 715 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: I know what I've done to create a home. Why 716 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: do I let the opinions of these people like really 717 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: eat up inside of me? And Ben's like, okay, this 718 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: is do you want it to? We can make a change, 719 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: we can get I can literally put the dining tables 720 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: out on the street tomorrow and you can buy new ones. 721 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I don't even know why I care. 722 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: I think because then I see the pile on of 723 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: people and I'm like, oh my god, am I that 724 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: delusional that I actually haven't seen this this whole time? 725 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: And it's so obvious. There's almost two hundred comments and 726 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: they're all saying the same thing. 727 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: Look, I'm sorry, they're delusional. Like, for example, my husband, 728 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: he was engaged before we got together, and I use 729 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: all of the beautiful serving boards that he and his 730 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: fiance got given at their engagement party. I'm like, fantastic, 731 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: Like that's day, this is great. If you get rid 732 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: of everything in d I'm sure that they would have 733 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: been like can you believe she couldn't stand having the 734 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend's furniture in the house. How wasteful to you know? 735 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: Like you oh, no, it's like you can never win 736 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: in this instance. And to me, I'm like, that's not 737 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: really important to me. Like I've like having some chairs 738 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 2: and tables and things around that she was here, that's 739 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: not I don't really care. I'm not petty like that. 740 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: Like I would much rather create a home and a 741 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: safe home and baby proof the home, as you guys know, 742 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: is very important. I remove the cactuses and things out 743 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 2: that we're going to hurt the kids, But like that's 744 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 2: important to me, Like creating love and safety in a 745 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: home is way more important. Like I really could not 746 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: care less. You know, I would actually be more grateful 747 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: if she left a few of her things, some hair 748 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: straighteners and stuff that I could really use. 749 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: This is, of course, a Christmas episode, and we haven't 750 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: even touched on Christmas bar the cotton non commercial that 751 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: your husband's colleagues were insanely jealous about. But I already 752 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: know that you're a huge Christmas lover because you used 753 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: to have a real Christmas tree until recently. Why the change? 754 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: Do you know? What? It was too much upkeep. I'm 755 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: so lazy like that. I'm like, Okay, I've got the kids, 756 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: I've got the dogs and I have a malting dog. 757 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: I do not need a malting Christmas tree now. And 758 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: it was one of those things. I love the smell 759 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: of real Christmas trees. I loved going to this lady's 760 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: house out near the country and cutting it down myself. 761 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: She gave me a train saw, like I got to 762 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 2: pick the tree I remember taking maybe last year or 763 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: not last year, the year before last, and we cut 764 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: it down. It was so much fun. But also the 765 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 2: reason why I did a change is because I want 766 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: Christmas to start in November. Like I'm not putting up 767 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 2: this Christmas tree in December and know that my tree 768 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 2: won't die in three weeks. Because that's the thing with 769 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: real Christmas trees, like they die, they die quickly. They 770 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 2: smell good for a hot minute, but they die very quickly. 771 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 2: So I've invested in this epic like two meter tall 772 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: fake one. And then I've also bought pine trees smelling candles. 773 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: I think pine trees is that what they are? Yeah, 774 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: pine tree. 775 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: Smelling important to have those candles because yeah, it has 776 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: a bowsome hill tree. 777 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I think it is okay, because it's amazing. 778 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: I've just done the same thing. Always had a real 779 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: Christmas tree. This year, I bought a Bolesome Hill because 780 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to put it up in November too, because 781 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: this is that right now, well it is, but it 782 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: was just to see if I got the right height 783 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: for the room. 784 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bosom Hill, they're great, They're so Honestly, this 785 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 2: Christmas tree in credit it looks so real as well. 786 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: Last year you actually I remember organized these beautiful personalized 787 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: stockings and then it caused a mass sister. 788 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: That's right, that was weird. I mean, it wasn't weird. 789 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: So I just randomly I love Etsy, right, I mean, 790 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: I order a lot of things from Etsy. I just 791 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: ordered these incredible rugs that took so long to be 792 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: handmade in Morocco, but like, I found them on Etsy, 793 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: and I love supporting the small businesses on there. So 794 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: I knew if I just found a random small business 795 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: on Etsy that could make these beautiful little Sanda sacks, 796 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: they were not going to know who I am. Of 797 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: course the message I like, placed the order and I 798 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: knew Soul's name. We knew Soul's name was going to 799 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: be sold from the get gos. So I placed this 800 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: order and then I get a message ba like oh 801 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: my god, Indy, I'm a huge fan. I can't believe 802 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: it places or I promise I'm gonna keep this name 803 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: a secret. But she really leveraged off it, right, and 804 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 2: she's like like I remember seeing things being like I 805 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: know Indy Clinton's baby's name, and like she was I 806 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: get it. I guess she's trying to monetize from it, 807 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: and I get I love that she was hustling like that, 808 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: but I was also like, wait, please do not say 809 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 2: anything like I don't know you, but like have my 810 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,479 Speaker 2: back through Let's just kind of communicate through the air 811 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: that like you're not going to say anything, please, And 812 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: then I saw that huge stir because she posted something 813 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: like she was very good at getting onto the marketing 814 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 2: train and leveraging from that, like I don't know who 815 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 2: trained her and media, but she nailed that, didn't She's. 816 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: Out because she ended up sharing a name that it 817 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: wasn't Soul's name, but it was another s name and 818 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: it like fit all the clues, and everyone's like, oh 819 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: my gosh, she kind of had your back though, because 820 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: she put a bit of a red hairing out there. 821 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 2: That's true, and you know what she's messaged me and 822 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 2: she sent me. She said I completely changed her business, 823 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: Like she said I sold out, because she sent me 824 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 2: a jumper a few months ago with sleep deprived on it. 825 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: And she was like, I just want to say thank you, 826 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: Like you completely changed my business, like you sold me out, 827 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: but you also made me so much money that I 828 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: could buy another sowing machine, another this, and now I 829 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 2: can elevate my business and another this another that exactly. 830 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, well you kind of did 831 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 2: it for yourself because you were really fishing with my name, 832 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: weren't you. So you you should be there yourself. 833 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: Look at you just supporting small businesses, and just. 834 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 2: I love supporting small businesses. I'm like, wow, you are 835 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 2: so I wish I could be you. Like I support 836 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: the hustle, I mean especially and then especially mums. I 837 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 2: just I have this thing for mums because now I'm 838 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: in it, I know how hard it is. And so 839 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: whenever I see a mum on the street or a 840 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: mum pustling with a small business or aside business, I'm like, 841 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 2: of course, have my money, take my money. 842 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: I support you, exploit my name and whatnot for your. 843 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: Use my name, run through the dirt. I will support you. 844 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: This is what my self development is teaching me. 845 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: CLIMATE would really love to do a quick Christmas quiz 846 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: before we go with you, and it's basically we've got 847 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: ourselves in hot water before for giving opinions based on 848 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: Christmas food and Easter food anyway, so I kind of 849 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: want to hear yours. You know those tears on the 850 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: internet that are like god tier, mid tier and meth. 851 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen those. 852 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm too old. No, definitely not, because so you're 853 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: definitely not. 854 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you're too young. 855 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,760 Speaker 2: Ye, true, God tear is the best, and then yeah. 856 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: Tear is like good and yeah, so Pavlova, where does 857 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: that sit? 858 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: I personally think pavlova is me. I only like the 859 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: fresh fruit on it because it's too sweet. The white meringue. 860 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: I hate meringue. I think meringue is like just as 861 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 2: mad as a lemon tart. So like meh, a sorry 862 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: egg too, was like an egg, Like the best thing 863 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 2: about it is like either the passion fruit pulp or 864 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: the fresh mango on it. But like, just give me 865 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: that in a bowl and I'll be happy. 866 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: That surprises me. Being like a beechy sort of, I. 867 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 2: Do want to like it, but just like, actually, just 868 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: give me a block of Cadprey chocolate instead it, I'll 869 00:40:59,560 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: be happy. 870 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: What about putting then? 871 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 2: No pudding? Yeah, Matt actually makes me want to vomit. 872 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: Ben told me that that is all he has had. 873 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: His grandma makes Christmas pudding like Injuly, like date putting 874 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,399 Speaker 2: in July and freezes it until Christmas or something, and 875 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gotta be kidding me. And a few 876 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 2: years ago she wanted to give us some and I 877 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: was like, we're not taking that. Sorry, thank you, I 878 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 2: appreciate the effort. We're not having that putting in our fridge. 879 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 2: I'm not eating it. I just think it's too sweet. 880 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm not one second you're gonna eat it. If you are, 881 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 2: I just think for me, putting is just way too sweet. 882 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: Like I can have one date, but you cannot put 883 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: a pudding of dates into my mouth. 884 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: See, I bet Ben's grandma she would have put coins 885 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: in the pudding, like. I don't know if you've heard 886 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: of that, because I spoke about it recently to someone else, 887 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: because our grandma used to put money in the pudding. 888 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 2: Way, Oh well, give me some more pudding then, I'm 889 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: gonna have to go to a house and get it 890 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: out the freezer. 891 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like, oh, I think we've all been classically 892 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: conditioned to light pudding just because of the cat. 893 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: With us money in it. I definitely would have eaten it. 894 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: What ifout Auntie she was rich and she used to 895 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 1: put gold coins and we were like, she didn't She 896 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: didn't bake them in because I think you can really 897 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: poison yourself. So it was like on the side of 898 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: the Yeah, so epic, what is your what Christmas dessert 899 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: do you like? Then it's God tear for you? 900 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: So I don't think this is very Christmasy, but I 901 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 2: love Tiramissou. Tira missue is like my jam. Like serve 902 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 2: me a tira missou on a reindeer and I will 903 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: eat the whole thing, like I love Terra ma sou. 904 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: But that's probably not Christmasy. If it was me, though, 905 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: I would much rather fill up on all of the 906 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: the ham. I'm new to eating ham, but I really 907 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 2: love it now. Ham and Crawn's oysters, seafood. That's what 908 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: I want to fill up on, and then I'll just 909 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,959 Speaker 2: kind of like make I actually just want to eat 910 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 2: margaritas and champagne. That's where I would find most of 911 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 2: my It's like I want to be the drunk Auntie 912 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: on Christmas Day because last year I had misdiitis, so 913 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't be drunk. I was on antibio. So then 914 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: I kind of just want to roll into some fresh 915 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 2: fruit and maybe just into some Cabri chocolate. Like that's 916 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 2: how basic I am. I am very basic when it 917 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: comes to eating. I'm a really simple eater. 918 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't like sauces, let's be honest. I mean that 919 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: sounds way better than like Christmas pudding. Just Cabria chocolate. 920 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: Just give me some even just like Toddler, Like I 921 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: just love. If I'm going to fill up, That's what 922 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 2: I want to fill up on, like followed by a 923 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: peppermint tea to wash everything down into an afternoon swim. 924 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 2: Like Honestly, Christmas Day, I'm so excited. 925 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: We hope you have the most amazing Christmas and I 926 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing your bosom heell tree up in November. 927 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: I know we're gonna take care. I got to set 928 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 2: my up in November, so I'll take photos and sent 929 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 2: to you. 930 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: Yes please, I think yours is mine's like maybe not. 931 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: I think mine's two meters too. 932 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 2: Thank you guy. 933 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed our chat with Indy Clinton. Don't 934 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: forget to follow her if you're not already now. In 935 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow's episode of Outspoken, Plus, we'll be dropping more content 936 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: with Indy Clinton, so make sure you're subscribed. Thank you 937 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: so much for listening. 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