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Speaker 2: The more time you spend on the Internet, the more
Speaker 2: proficient you should become at not taking the bait. It's
Speaker 2: getting really boring to me to see the same batch
Speaker 2: of people riled up about the same things. And I'm
Speaker 2: not talking, obviously discussing grotesque social humanitarian issues. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that. I'm saying every now and then somebody will
Speaker 2: come on the Internet and say women need to, Australians
Speaker 2: need to, and everyone's like, and they get themselves riled up.
Speaker 1: Your hair and.
Speaker 2: They get themselves riled up and frustrated to no end.
Speaker 2: And it gets really annoying to see because the way
Speaker 2: that algorithms work is the more you engage with the content,
Speaker 2: the more the content it'll show you. When things arrive
Speaker 2: on your feed, you don't always consent to that initial interaction.
Speaker 2: Right when I swipe and there's a little Andrew Tait video,
Speaker 2: I'm like ah, and I swipe away because I just
Speaker 2: know he's gonna say something inflammatory that's gonna piss me off.
Speaker 2: What am I doing there? I'm protecting my peace. This
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that I can't comprehend that there is a
Speaker 2: world out there where people think in that way. But
Speaker 2: on the digital landscape, you have to understand that chaos
Speaker 2: and outrage marketing is a tactic and it works because
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 3: Learn interesting and how does this relate.
Speaker 4: To what everything?
Speaker 2: A skill that people need to learn is that chaos
Speaker 2: and outrage marketing works because you don't remember that you
Speaker 2: have the agency to pick what you want to watch
Speaker 2: and engage with. Right, So, every time you see a
Speaker 2: Kardashian do something inflammatory like and then engagement goes up,
Speaker 2: clicks go up, retention rate goes up. Right every time
Speaker 2: you see someone say something misogynistic with no intention of
Speaker 2: wanting to be corrected. Every time you hear someone misunderstand
Speaker 2: what feminism is, misunderstand what intersectionality is, and you're like,
Speaker 2: you're doing exactly what is required for them to keep
Speaker 2: gaining traction on this conversation. Now, there is a fine
Speaker 2: balance between you know, not excluding yourself from every difficult conversation,
Speaker 2: but also recognizing when and where it is productive and
Speaker 2: when you use the word productive for you to engage,
Speaker 2: because it's the same people being like, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: such a scary place, and I can never feel.
Speaker 4: Oh, but you see the headline, you click, You see
Speaker 4: the MRA article, you click, you see the in cell thread,
Speaker 4: you click. Stop clicking, stop clicking, or get better at
Speaker 4: knowing when you are just a pawn in a marketing activity.
Speaker 1: Hard to know, but getting it is really not hard
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's not because it's the same people every time, it's
Speaker 2: the same narratives every time, it's the same approach every time.
Speaker 2: And realistically, you're not in the comments changing mind. You're
Speaker 2: in the comments spreading the narratives farther and wide. When
Speaker 2: you're like, hey, frooms, check out this, what do you
Speaker 2: make check this out?
Speaker 1: Talk about it?
Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever, And I'm just saying, there's a time and place.
Speaker 2: Let's figure it out together, because we don't get to
Speaker 2: the destination, which is interdependence and community, homeless and harmony,
Speaker 2: if we don't figure out what we're being played and
Speaker 2: we get played every.
Speaker 3: Day, and yet we take the bait timetime again, that
Speaker 3: delicious juicy Have the Kardashians ever like gone into the
Speaker 3: food space those lollipops? You take the delicious weight lost lollipop.
Speaker 1: Every time they go into the food space. They had
Speaker 1: them lollipops.
Speaker 3: I swear they had the gummies, you know, those things
Speaker 3: that you're supposed to have, all the skinny teas and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, skinny tea, lollyo food space.
Speaker 4: This is aity.
Speaker 1: No, I'll stick to my chap of chubs.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also think I don't want to see you know, Like,
Speaker 3: how do I say this? I specifically don't go on
Speaker 3: certain websites, despite my animal brain wanting to.
Speaker 1: Check out what's going on what websites like, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to implicate because can you mouth it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Are you covering a mouth? I can't see, oh daily mouth.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: I'll really try to stop myself from going on these
Speaker 3: websites because I know how they work. They're getting a
Speaker 3: little petuity gland firing because it's getting me fired up,
Speaker 3: and I'm also wanting to look at all these base
Speaker 3: things that are making me feel bad. But it's given
Speaker 3: me a feeling, and sometimes, you know, in this six
Speaker 3: sad world, you need to feel something. But yes, I
Speaker 3: try not to engage so far as I can, because
Speaker 3: I know it doesn't help my Anything that I can
Speaker 3: do to help any it doesn't come from feeling put upon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like find the balance between being informed, having
Speaker 2: the agency to expose yourself to media that doesn't automatically
Speaker 2: make you feel good, but also knowing that you can
Speaker 2: tap out and not every salacious, derogatory thing on the
Speaker 2: Internet is permission for you to expose yourself to dangerous stuff.
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