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Speaker 1: She's on the Money.

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Speaker 2: She's on the Money. Hello, and welcome to She's on

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Speaker 2: the Money, the podcast for millennials who want financial freedom.

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Speaker 2: My name is Tony Lodge, and I'm sure that you're very,

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Speaker 2: very surprised to hear.

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Speaker 3: My voice today.

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Speaker 2: I've got Victoria Divine with me as always, I never

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Speaker 2: leave home without her.

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Speaker 3: You always keep me in the back pocket. I like it.

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Speaker 2: And today we've got something really really fun for you guys.

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Speaker 3: So Tony and I were having a conversation recently about

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Speaker 3: how impressed I was with Brooke. And Brook is the

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Speaker 3: CEO or what she calls herself a three EO because

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Speaker 3: she's co CEO of Shares's And anyway, I was saying

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Speaker 3: to Tony how impressed I am with Brook and what

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Speaker 3: she's achieved, and that these are the types of people

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Speaker 3: that I'm inspired by, because genuinely is a CEO of

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Speaker 3: a finance company. She's got a team of like one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty people they've just which is huge. They

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Speaker 3: have just expanded to Australia and she's picked up her family.

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Speaker 3: She has two young kids and a husband and has

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Speaker 3: moved them to Sydney so that she can actually you

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Speaker 3: know grow shares ease and I'm always just so impressed

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Speaker 3: with women who not only look like they have it all,

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Speaker 3: but genuinely do and how they manage it. And I'm

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Speaker 3: genuinely so inspired by people like Brooke, and I know

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Speaker 3: that other people are as well. It's not just me

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Speaker 3: who's impressed, because in twenty twenty, which was only last year,

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Speaker 3: Brooke was named as the joint winner of the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty New Zealand Women of Influence Award, which is not

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Speaker 3: a small feed and is incredibly impressive, and I just

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Speaker 3: really wanted to get her on the podcast. I know

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Speaker 3: we don't do interviews or conversations ever, and this is

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Speaker 3: definitely not us saying we're moving in that direction, but

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Speaker 3: I genuinely just wanted to share Brook with you guys

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Speaker 3: because she's someone that I look up to and someone

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Speaker 3: that our team has been really impressed with. And by

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Speaker 3: no means is this actually sponsored. I just wanted to

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Speaker 3: share Brook with you guys because through working with them

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Speaker 3: in a different campaign, I've just learnt so much about

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Speaker 3: them and so much about Brook, and I'm genuinely inspired

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Speaker 3: by what she brings to the table and who she

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Speaker 3: is and that She's a mum and a CEO and

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Speaker 3: a leader, and I'm just so genuinely impressed by her,

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Speaker 3: and I know you guys will be inspired by her

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Speaker 3: as well. So here is the chat we had with

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Speaker 3: her just this week. All right, where do you want

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Speaker 3: to start, Tony?

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Speaker 2: I guess we'll start at the beginning, Like, why why

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Speaker 2: are you doing what you're doing?

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Speaker 1: Brook?

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Speaker 2: Obviously there's a million things that you could be doing.

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Speaker 2: You're a smart, powerful woman. You could be doing whatever

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Speaker 2: you want. So why finance? Like why is this where

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Speaker 3: Oh, your finance is cool? Are you just going to

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Speaker 3: attack finance off the bat like we're cool people?

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Speaker 1: I didn't say, you know why finance?

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Speaker 2: I love finance, obviously, this I'm here true?

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Speaker 3: All right, Brooke, how'd you end up in finance? Oh?

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Speaker 4: I love this question? And it's actually it's a long

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Speaker 4: I'll try and make it short. But I studied like

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Speaker 4: business accounting and economics back at school, and I really

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Speaker 4: And so I just always kind of had a bit

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Speaker 4: I think that's what I felt at that time. And

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Speaker 4: Studying and diving into money and finance. I really enjoy

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But little did I know, and now you know,

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Speaker 4: of that kind of interesting stuff, along with like deeply,

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Speaker 4: Learning about how we could use the products and things

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Speaker 4: heeps through that. And I know, this is a really

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Speaker 4: long answer of how I got into finance, but essentially

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Speaker 4: then how I ended up with cheers EA's was information

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Speaker 3: Not long winded at all. That's perfect. That's what I

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Speaker 2: It's funny that you said that you never thought that

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Speaker 2: I love numbers and I want to be part of this.

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Speaker 4: I think like knowing in myself it's okay to make

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Speaker 3: maybe one day they'll come to Australia, but hadn't you know,

439
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Speaker 3: been able to reach out yet. And I just remember

440
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 3: being so excited because I was like, I feel like

441
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 3: these guys are on the same page as me. And

442
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: then you and I got to know each other and

443
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 3: we had a couple of meetings together just to understand

444
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 3: each other before we even decided to work together. And

445
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 3: I was just so amazed at you know, who you

446
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: are and what you've created and what your team does.

447
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 3: And I guess it. I guess it's interesting as well,

448
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: because I think a lot of people would say that

449
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 3: the roles that you and I have, particularly you like

450
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: my team is what like ten and yours is one

451
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty. They're really unrelatable. But you know, you

452
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: went to UNI in the same way. You didn't come

453
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: from this massive wealthy family who you know, you inherited

454
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 3: mom and dad's business. You've kind of like done this

455
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 3: yourself with you know, your business partners. When you're at UNI,

456
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: did you see this for yourself? Like what did you

457
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 3: think the future looked like? And you know, are you

458
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: now a bit like, oh I am the CEO of

459
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Speaker 3: a company?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think my PASTUF will be really stoked for myself.

461
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 4: This is where I would have, you know, I love

462
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Speaker 4: to be. I can't say I saw this specific opportunity

463
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: or saw that would specifically be in finance. I thought

464
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: I might be more in the fashion business side of things,

465
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Speaker 4: but I'm yeah, I think I'll be really proud of

466
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 4: what I've been spending my time on and what I've

467
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,959
Speaker 4: been creating and am creating here, and I think it

468
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 4: really boils down to I just really care about creating

469
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Speaker 4: equal opportunities and making sure people get access to things

470
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Speaker 4: they should have access to and be able to do

471
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Speaker 4: that in a fun and confident way. And so I

472
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 4: just really enjoy every day that I get to spend

473
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Speaker 4: at Cheeses and not saying that, you know, there's not challenging.

474
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 4: There's definitely challenging days and days where I'm like, oh,

475
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Speaker 4: I've really got to do some research on this. I

476
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Speaker 4: would have need some advice, definitely, I get that often,

477
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Speaker 4: but or I just need some time to deep think

478
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Speaker 4: about stuff.

479
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Speaker 1: But I really really think I'm just so lucky to

480
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Speaker 1: be doing what I'm doing.

481
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Speaker 3: I love that, and I love how much you love

482
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: Shares is so genuinely like and that's why I said,

483
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 3: we don't do interviews on She's on the Money, and

484
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: I didn't want this to be an interview, And I

485
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: said to Tony, like, we just need to get Brooke

486
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: on because we need to share her with our community.

487
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: Like it's not a sponsored thing. I just genuinely want

488
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Speaker 3: to talk to more strong women who you know, can

489
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: be our inspiration and can be the people that we

490
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Speaker 3: look up to, and I know that you're so proud

491
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Speaker 3: of what you've done. But I guess next question for

492
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Speaker 3: me is what's been the most exciting part of your

493
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Speaker 3: journey so far?

494
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Speaker 4: Oh oh, in terms of like career wise, like creating

495
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 4: something from scratch and seeing you know, like and working

496
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Speaker 4: with an incredible team and being able to build that

497
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 4: has been a massive highlight and every day really really exciting.

498
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Speaker 1: I really enjoy the challenge of it too.

499
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, we definitely are doing stuff in

500
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Speaker 4: a new and a different way, and I think being

501
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 4: able to really challenge the status quo but in a

502
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 4: way that's really uniting too and driving a path forward.

503
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Speaker 1: I really like that approach and the way that we

504
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Speaker 1: do things.

505
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Speaker 4: And I just love I just every time I hear

506
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Speaker 4: about somebody who's just got into investing or I'm investing

507
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 4: for a while, and just being able to see this

508
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: new way of investing now and hearing how it's impacting

509
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Speaker 4: their life and the community around them and the conversations

510
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Speaker 4: they can have at the dinner table with their family

511
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Speaker 4: or their friends, It's just like it really gets me.

512
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Speaker 1: In the heart.

513
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Speaker 3: I love that. I love that because I feel exactly

514
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Speaker 3: the same way I get DMS from people just being like, hey,

515
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 3: you know, I've gotten out of debt, or I've just

516
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: taken the first plunge, or I've just And I think

517
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Speaker 3: that sometimes sometimes people message and they're like, oh, I'm

518
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: so sorry that I'm messaging you. I just, you know,

519
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: really wanted to tell you, like why are you sorry?

520
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: Like this stuff makes my day, Like this stuff is

521
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Speaker 3: why I do what I do. Please never ever ever

522
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: stop telling me that. And you know, I say to

523
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: my team all the time because like if you asked Tony,

524
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: like a lot of tears are often shed in our offices,

525
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: I said, if ever this doesn't impact me anymore, like

526
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: we need to be talking. We need to be saying

527
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: what is wrong, because you know that impact if it

528
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: ever wears off, like there is genuinely something wrong with

529
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Speaker 3: you know, the way that we're running a business, because

530
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Speaker 3: we should always be proud of that. And I think that, Yeah,

531
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Speaker 3: it's just so nice to know that other people are

532
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: just as passionate about it and how that works. Next

533
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: question is you know you've said that you're really passionate

534
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Speaker 3: about this, and we understand. I guess a little bit

535
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: more about what drives you personally, but like what does

536
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Speaker 3: the future look like? You've got this brand that you know,

537
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: you have business partners, but you guys are started in

538
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: New Zealand, which is crazy for an investing company and

539
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 3: so epic, and you've expanded to Australia and is this

540
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Speaker 3: way you saw shares is going? Like what's next? How

541
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Speaker 3: does it work?

542
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: This is definitely always where we've seen Cheeses going. You know,

544
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 4: we we really want to be able to provide Australians

545
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 4: with access to investing in a way that they can

546
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Speaker 4: you know, invest how much they want, when they want,

547
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Speaker 4: and not kind of.

548
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Speaker 1: Be limited by the rules out there.

549
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Speaker 4: We you know, we started cheese Is after doing heaps

550
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Speaker 4: and heaps of customer research to go do people whoven

551
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 4: want to be an investor?

552
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: How does how does investing sit? And you know and

553
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: what they do? Now? What what does money mean to them?

554
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: Like how do they feel about money?

555
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 4: And really learned that like ninety nine point five percent

556
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 4: of people want to be an investor, like an investor

557
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 4: is an aspotional thing, but a lot of people feel

558
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: priced out, like you need heaps of money to get

559
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 4: started or jarggoned out like you need to know heaps

560
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: will have to have a degree in it even to

561
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 4: just get started and left out, like the system has

562
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: really been set up one hundred for the wealthy few

563
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Speaker 4: and really fuck left out of even being able to

564
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Speaker 4: become an investor. And that's something that drives us and

565
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: we really do everything we can to remove those barriers. So,

566
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: like we've made sure that the minimum investment on all

567
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: the investment options on cheeses is one cent so that

568
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: people can just for their amounts they want.

569
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Speaker 3: Guys like I don't.

570
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: Think you can get less than that, Yeah, exactly. It's

571
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: like you know, and it's like and that's access to

572
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: us and New Zealand and Australian shares and companies. And

573
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 4: then we wanted to just use everyday language, you know,

574
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 4: like it doesn't need to have all this jargon, and

575
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: then essentially create a platform that feels a lot more

576
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 4: inclusive and can be a place for everyone from new

577
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: to seasoned, from you know, like everybody being able to

578
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: feel like they can participate in this world and be

579
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Speaker 4: able to develop their wealth. And that's what we're building

580
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 4: every day.

581
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Speaker 3: I love that so much. It makes me so happy

582
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: that a couple of years ago when I started She's

583
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Speaker 3: on the Money and just started having these conversations like

584
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that other people who were as passionate

585
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: about this stuff as I was, and it just felt

586
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: like I was out on my own. And now I'm

587
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: just overwhelmed with how many people I can connect with

588
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: and you know, vibe off and be like, oh my god, Brook,

589
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: this is so cool. I cannot believe that you guys

590
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 3: have created this option, and you know, I think how

591
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: community is the same, and you know, I'm really grateful

592
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: that we get to kind of introduce them to you

593
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: and what you get up to, because I think that

594
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: you know, regardless of what you know, She's on the

595
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: Money and shares you is do like we're going to

596
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: be following you and watching what you get up to,

597
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: because it's genuinely inspiring, like seeing women live out their

598
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: passion and seeing women live out, you know, really great

599
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: careers and still have kids and essentially manage it all,

600
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Speaker 3: Like that's just genuinely so impressive. And I guess it

601
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: then leans into the question of how do you manage

602
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: work life balance, Like how have you managed to look clack?

603
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying you do, but look like you

604
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: have it all.

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Speaker 4: It's quite funny timing talking about this, because you know,

606
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Speaker 4: I rely moved to Sydney and we'll be here for

607
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 4: most of the year, and I bought my three year

608
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: old and one year old, and you know, my husband's

609
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: also one of the co founders in Cheersy, so we've

610
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: all come over and I'm a bit of an internal optimist,

611
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 4: so I just thought, yeah.

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Speaker 1: This would be great. Kids will love it, you know,

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Speaker 1: they adaptable. Oh it's been quite difficult, really.

614
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's.

615
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: Been really and I'm having a blast. I am loving.

616
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Speaker 4: Sydney, I'm loving Australia. I'm having x fumba for the kids.

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Speaker 4: It's been really it's been more of a challenge than

618
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Speaker 4: I expected in terms of adjusting and finding a daycare

619
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Speaker 4: and this like perpetual to do list you kind of

620
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: have in your mind, and then then getting settled and

621
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Speaker 4: creating new friendships and you know, feeling safe and when

622
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Speaker 4: everything they knew and they you know, all of our

623
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: support mechanisms back in New Zealand have gone, and so

624
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Speaker 4: I think that's been it's been a bit more challenging

625
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Speaker 4: than I probably initially anticipated. But I feel like we're

626
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Speaker 4: getting there now. We've had no tears for the last

627
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Speaker 4: three days, and.

628
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Speaker 1: It's I know it's fleasing, but I think you know

629
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Speaker 1: it is.

630
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Speaker 4: I just really important and like you said earlier, family

631
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Speaker 4: is really really important and that is number one. So

632
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Speaker 4: I took some time to just make sure I could

633
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Speaker 4: help them settle in and so as latent and I

634
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: think that really helps. And I a really good thing

635
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: with Chezy's is that we have this thing about just

636
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: having like shoulders at the end of the day, and

637
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: so sharing a problem or getting support we're needed, or

638
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Speaker 4: taking the time for our.

639
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Speaker 1: Own wellness and well being is really really crucial to that.

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Speaker 4: And we've built that into how we work, and I

641
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: definitely have built that into how I work and continue

642
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 4: to remind myself though it's very easy to just be like, oh,

643
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Speaker 4: this is one more thing, I'll get back to them,

644
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: and oh yeah, I'll take a break later, but it's

645
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: it's really important, and I think just coming from that

646
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: perspective for yourself to have knowing when knowing we will

647
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: do have limits actually sometimes and calling in the support.

648
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Speaker 4: I was really fortunate my dad actually came over for

649
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Speaker 4: two weeks to help us, which was really nice and

650
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Speaker 4: here time connecting with him, he realized how difficult it was.

651
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Speaker 4: But I think, yeah, it's it's just been kind to

652
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Speaker 4: our souves a and knowing maybe we can't do it

653
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: all all at once, but knowing that when people offer

654
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Speaker 4: support they really mean it and taking it.

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Speaker 1: It's really great.

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Speaker 2: That was going to be my next question actually, because

657
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Speaker 2: at the moment, we're seeing this huge shift in the

658
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Speaker 2: professional landscape of like not living to work and not

659
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: being you know, stuck in that grind all the time,

660
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: like rise and grind, and you've got to just work, work, work,

661
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: until you know you see the outcomes that you want

662
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: to see. And I think it's really refreshing and I

663
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: think what people are going to love to hear is

664
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: that you actually get more out of yourself when you're

665
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: kinder to yourself and when you let yourself enjoy the process,

666
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: rather than like running to the top of the hill

667
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: being like okay, now right at the top of the hill,

668
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: what's next, like and actually, yeah, letting yourself enjoy it

669
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: and go like, actually, at the end of the day

670
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: to day, I am to sign off and I'm not

671
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: just gonna sit on the couch on my emails, like

672
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: actually signing off and like enjoying your life as well

673
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Speaker 2: as enjoying your career.

674
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Speaker 1: M it's really important.

675
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Speaker 4: And I think at times it ebbs and flows, you know,

676
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: like sometimes there's just heats going on at work and

677
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: that's actually like really consuming and exciting and you kind

678
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 4: of dive into that, but knowing you need that, like

679
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: you know that space and between those moments too, And yeah,

680
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: I really want to make sure I'm a really present

681
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: mother too, and I try to do that as much

682
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Speaker 4: as possible. But I can't say I now, but who

683
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Speaker 4: does putting the phone down?

684
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, I don't really body if who does? And

685
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 3: as someone who doesn't have children yet, but like I

686
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: know I want to. I am genuinely in or because

687
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: you know, I manage my team and like I adore

688
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: my partner, but oh my lord, I don't know how

689
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: we would fit children into the mix. Like how did

690
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Speaker 3: you know like that the right time was the right

691
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Speaker 3: time or you just you know what, There's never going

692
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: to be a right time? Is this something that was

693
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Speaker 3: so planned?

694
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Speaker 4: Heaps for so three months after starting shares, he's quitting

695
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: our full time jobs, having no money coming into the house, I,

696
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: you know, felt pregnant with ol, so you really planned it. Yeah,

697
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Speaker 4: so I it's like, but you know, I always yeah,

698
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Speaker 4: I just I think I've always had that philosophy as

699
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: it's like, we'll just make it happen, you know, it'll

700
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: just make it work and we'll figure it out.

701
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Speaker 1: But I was.

702
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Speaker 4: Starting to get a little bit worried, and I would

703
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: talk to other you know, I try to find people

704
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: who have done this before and see what lessons I

705
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 4: could learn. But the thing that helped me heaps was

706
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: when I was about I must have been thirty seven

707
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: or thirty eight weeks pregnant with al and I was

708
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Speaker 4: driving in the.

709
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Speaker 1: Car and I turn on the radio and I hear

710
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: just Cinda Doing's pregnant.

711
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Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, like that's two powerful women

712
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: that are pregnant.

713
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Speaker 1: Well, if she can do it, I definitely can.

714
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's epic. I'm honestly so inside by

715
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: her and like I'm very similar to you broke in

716
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: that there's not many people that I genuinely look up to,

717
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: Like I love learning from everybody, but there's no one

718
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 3: that I would say that I really idolize. And that

719
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 3: sadly does include Jacinda, but I really just look at

720
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 3: her leadership style and how she's managing work and life

721
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: and kind of shaking it up, and I'm just like,

722
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: this is so cool, Like how lucky are we to

723
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Speaker 3: live in a world where these are our leaders now

724
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 3: and we're working towards equality, We are working towards you know,

725
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Speaker 3: closing the gender pay gap, and there's just so many

726
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: good things going on, and I'm just always so grateful

727
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Speaker 3: that I live in a time where I get to

728
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Speaker 3: experience that and I get to be a part of that,

729
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: because you know, my parents didn't get to be a

730
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Speaker 3: part of that. And you know, it's only now that

731
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Speaker 3: we're really seeing tangible impact and change and women being

732
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Speaker 3: given the voice that I believe they've always deserved to have.

733
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Speaker 3: And yet it's just so cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we really need to I really like I feel

735
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Speaker 1: that right now.

736
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Speaker 4: It really feel like we really support each other and

737
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: when one woman rises, we all rise, you know, And

738
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Speaker 4: I really like that. I do feel earlier on in

739
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: my career, or maybe at university, it felt like more competition.

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00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 4: It can only be one of us, look, you know,

741
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 4: and I just don't feel that anymore. And I would

742
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 4: love more and more people to be able to shake

743
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 4: that feeling and just know that we've got each other's

744
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: back and we want to succeed, and that more men

745
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: want us to succeed and get more opportunities to lead

746
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Speaker 4: and grow businesses or have management positions and be directors

747
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Speaker 4: of boards and all that.

748
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Speaker 1: Sort of jazz and get equality there.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those things where I felt like I

750
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 3: felt that at UNI, and I feel like I've always

751
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: been someone who's always been about collaboration, and you know,

752
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: I was like cool UNI who probably got a bit used.

753
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: Let's be honest. People knew that I'd share my notes

754
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: with them, and I always took perfect notes, but I

755
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: was always being like, yeah, cool, Like you can have

756
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: my notes. I'm more than happy to share because deep

757
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: down I knew that even if they had the notes,

758
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: that didn't automatically give them an a plus, because you

759
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: do have to put in the work. Having the notes

760
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: and just having access to it doesn't mean you're going

761
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: to be successful. And you know, in that same breath,

762
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: that's why I believe that competition doesn't really exist, like

763
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: the more the merrier, especially in the finance space like

764
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: here in Australia, eighty percent of people don't invest, and

765
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: eighty percent of people don't get financial advice. So you know,

766
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: the more people that are here, the better, the more

767
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: well serviced to this world is going to be. And

768
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: I you know exactly what you said, like rising tide

769
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: lift soul ships and we say that a lot at

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00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: cheese on the money. In fact, it's a Ryan John

771
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: quote like we've got to got to point that out here.

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00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: That's all all him and that's where I got that from.

773
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: But it's true, Like we just don't subscribe to the

774
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: notion that anyone's competition, Like it's all about collaboration. There's

775
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: no right, there's no wrong, it's what works for each individual.

776
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: And I think that that's what makes it so special

777
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 3: and what makes us, you know, a little bit different,

778
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 3: that we want to see everybody be successful. We don't

779
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: want to throw anybody under buses, we don't want people

780
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: to feel like they're not worthy of you know, sitting

781
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: at the same table. Then I just think that we are.

782
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 3: We're better people when we are open to better experiences

783
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: and experiencing everybody as opposed to just being like, well

784
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm right, and this is what I do, and my

785
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 3: product is the only product that you know is good.

786
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, but that seems really narrow minded. That

787
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: seems like you don't actually care about the fact that

788
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: everybody has a diverse experience. And yeah, I just I

789
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: really like hearing that from other people because you know,

790
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 3: collaboration over competition every day of the week.

791
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: You know, we just got so much more, yeah change

792
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: to see in this world. And when more and more

793
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: people are being able to participate and investing and being

794
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: able to develop their wealth, then we'll be able to

795
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: start seeing like there's intergenerational wealth get close and reducing

796
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: inequality and more and more people participating. And then then

797
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 4: when people are investing with their own values and beliefs

798
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 4: and goals in mind, that can start influencing the businesses

799
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: that they own and people put their money. And I'm

800
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 4: just really excited about seeing the future where there are

801
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 4: way more equal opportunities, whether it be in businesses and.

802
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: Investing and beyond.

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00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: Really so it's a really exciting future and I'm really Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's great to be able to come here.

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Speaker 1: And talk to you and your community today.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you for joining us. I think

807
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: that's actually the perfect place to leave best Brook. I

808
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: love everything about what you guys do and what you

809
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: personally stand for, and no, it's it's just so inspiring

810
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 3: to see other women who are real about their journeys

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00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: and other women who you know, we didn't all set

812
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: up to become CEOs, and I just I want to

813
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: close this gap on relatability when it comes to people

814
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: in these leadership positions, because often they get put on

815
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: pedestals when in reality, you know, we've worked just as

816
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: hard as everybody else and found our way into these positions,

817
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: and you know, we still have problems finding daycare, we

818
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: still have you know, kids that cry, and you know

819
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: are not fitting into their new environments, and we're all

820
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: trying to work out, you know, where we fit in

821
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: the world, regardless of what our role is. And I

822
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: think that you know, this has been a really helpful conversation,

823
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: and I hope that you know, our community draws a

824
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: lot of inspiration from it as well, because you know,

825
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 3: these are the people that are in our community. Like Brook,

826
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: You're in our community, and you know, being able to

827
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: share your story is just so special. So thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for joining us. But as always, just before

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Speaker 3: we head off, we'd like to acknowledge and pay respect

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00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: to Australia's Aboriginal and torrest right island of peoples, the

831
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: traditional custodians of the lands, the waterways and the skies

832
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: all across Australia. We thank you for sharing and the

833
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: caring for the land on which we are able to learn.

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Speaker 3: We pay respects to elders past and present, and we

835
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: share our friendship and our kindness.

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Speaker 2: in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's

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839
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Speaker 3: Bye