Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week. Don't welcome back guys
Speaker 1: to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this
Speaker 1: podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players
Speaker 1: in television.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great questions.
Speaker 3: The show's about the game. There's a lot of great
Speaker 3: television out there in Australia.
Speaker 1: But I've also got to go behind the scenes with writers.
Speaker 1: The truth is, when I started writing it, it wasn't
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the news and casting agents.
Speaker 3: They know from a casting point of view what they need.
Speaker 1: And editors because that's what we do as editors where storytellers.
Speaker 1: Not to forget some incredible executive producers who are making
Speaker 1: some of the best TV in Australia.
Speaker 3: I have been on the program since the beginning and
Speaker 3: it's kind of in my DNA.
Speaker 1: So thanks for joining me each week and I hope
Speaker 1: the podcast continues to give you real insight into the
Speaker 1: magic of television today. On the podcast, I have Angie Kent,
Speaker 1: who you might know as a darling of reality television
Speaker 1: from goggle Box to the Jungle, from the Bachelorette to
Speaker 1: the dance Floor. There isn't a network or production company
Speaker 1: that hasn't hit her up for a job in the
Speaker 1: last few years. Angie wears a heart on her sleeve
Speaker 1: and is one of the most relatable personalities on the
Speaker 1: TV circuit. I feel like we have only just seen
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what
Speaker 1: Angie is capable of. And if you can't get enough
Speaker 1: of the Pine size Queenslander with her presence on Telly,
Speaker 1: you can catch her with her best friend ev Jones
Speaker 1: on their weekly podcast Two Girls, One Pot. Today we'll
Speaker 1: be talking Dancing with the Stars, which we'll see Angie
Speaker 1: return to the popular format. The All Stars Juggernaut is
Speaker 1: on Channel seven Sunday night at seven point thirty, and
Speaker 1: while I've been lucky enough to see this week's episode
Speaker 1: ahead of this chat, I can't recommend enough the chance
Speaker 1: to watch Angie on Sunday Night perform with her partner
Speaker 1: as I'm still bump into the moves and will no
Speaker 1: doubt be rewatching it as that episode goes live. We
Speaker 1: will talk behind the scenes, future projects and all that's
Speaker 1: in between. There's plenty more coming up in the chat,
Speaker 1: and without further ado, I'd like to welcome Angie Kent
Speaker 1: to TV reload.
Speaker 3: When I was little, I would watch Dancing with the
Speaker 3: Stars Welcome You're Dancing by the Stars All Stars twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two. On the first episode, it looks like that
Speaker 3: we're having a punch.
Speaker 1: Up time for reality star Angie Kent.
Speaker 3: I'm never going to remember all these borhroom moves. So
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Angie now and she's just got this
Speaker 3: awesome energy about it. I think Edie and I would
Speaker 3: be up coming back for like us season. You've got
Speaker 3: something more to give and I want to see it.
Speaker 3: I think it's important to really just own who you
Speaker 3: are and just do you. Life's so short, and so
Speaker 3: I'm predicted more.
Speaker 1: Hi, Angie, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good, Benjamin, how are you? You know?
Speaker 1: This is really strange doing a podcast with someone you
Speaker 1: know personally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have to be like professional. We're not
Speaker 3: too professional where it's like I know who you are.
Speaker 3: You don't have to talk to me like that.
Speaker 1: I know, I know. And I should start by saying
Speaker 1: congratulations on your time on Dancing with the Stars. I
Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited for you.
Speaker 3: I know, what a whirlwind. Here I was thinking I
Speaker 3: would a never get the opportunity to do it again
Speaker 3: because the first time was quite a I don't know,
Speaker 3: cluster fuck of sorrow. And then where I am doing
Speaker 3: it again two years later? Who would have funk it?
Speaker 1: What made you say yes to returning to Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars or God?
Speaker 3: I figured like, I was like, I'm gonna put my
Speaker 3: reality TV shoes up now because I've done you know,
Speaker 3: well not so many. I do three back to back,
Speaker 3: and I was kind of like, yeah, that's enough now.
Speaker 3: But then I thought dancing would probably be the only
Speaker 3: one that I would do because the first time round,
Speaker 3: I don't remember it at all because I was so
Speaker 3: exhausted got coming from the jungle bachelorette straight onto the
Speaker 3: dance floor. I hardly remember any of it, and I
Speaker 3: just wasn't myself. I was a bad nerves So I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, this is perfect, Like I get to
Speaker 3: do it and this time I get to remember it.
Speaker 1: Well, I've been lucky enough to see this week's dance
Speaker 1: and I can't get over how good you were. I
Speaker 1: simply can't wait for Australia to see this.
Speaker 3: Really proud of myself and I had so much more
Speaker 3: fun and I think that was the main point of
Speaker 3: me doing this is that I just wanted to have
Speaker 3: fun this time.
Speaker 1: How much preparation did you put into this and what
Speaker 1: was your process like this time around? Was it different?
Speaker 3: Well, it's such a completely different format. So Dancing with
Speaker 3: the Stars last time it was like, I think we
Speaker 3: had seven weeks maybe leading up to the first episode,
Speaker 3: where you only really learn one dance and then you
Speaker 3: started your next one. But this time you had four
Speaker 3: weeks dancing full time with no like without the show,
Speaker 3: and then you have to learn seven dances in that
Speaker 3: four weeks because you never know when you're going to
Speaker 3: get voted off, So you know, I learned every single
Speaker 3: dance for each night, and its kind of just goes
Speaker 3: like one person goes one night, second or third night,
Speaker 3: four nights, so so fast, and you put in all
Speaker 3: this work. Literally you can be voted off the first night.
Speaker 3: You already have six dances up to sleep, so it's
Speaker 3: pretty full off. You're exhausted by the time the show
Speaker 3: starts and the show's kind of over really quick.
Speaker 1: What kind of commitment, like time wise, is involved with
Speaker 1: a show like this? Were you there every day.
Speaker 3: You were doing so I flew in from Queensland straight
Speaker 3: into the pandemic. Sydney was in full lockdown at that point,
Speaker 3: so it was quite like daunting, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: do I want to leave a state where it's like
Speaker 3: we haven't been hit by the pandemic to go into
Speaker 3: Sydney's full lockdown. So you kind of just like went
Speaker 3: to the studio, came home to where they set you
Speaker 3: up in a hotel, and like that's all you do.
Speaker 3: So I'd go to the studio at like nine and
Speaker 3: finish at like three or four, and I'd do that
Speaker 3: Monday to Friday, and then sometimes Saturdays we do like
Speaker 3: three or four hours. So you're really, really you're exhausted,
Speaker 3: and then you have one week to kind of learn
Speaker 3: the first dance, but then by the second week they're like,
Speaker 3: you need to start learning the second dance, the third dance,
Speaker 3: the fourth dance, the fifteenth just in case you stay
Speaker 3: until the end. So by the time the show starts,
Speaker 3: you kind of forget your first dance and you got
Speaker 3: to kind of touch on it again. I don't even
Speaker 3: know how our brains remember it, but there must be
Speaker 3: something in the brain that just holds onto things. Because
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, I'm never going to remember all
Speaker 3: these borroom moves a little.
Speaker 1: Bertie told me that as productions started, they gave the
Speaker 1: celebrities a chance to get out of the show due
Speaker 1: to COVID. You know, so for people listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: they pre recorded Dancing with the Stars and it happened
Speaker 1: in New South Wales at a really hectic time of lockdowns.
Speaker 1: What when they offered you the chance to leave the show?
Speaker 1: What was that process like in your mind?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was so full on. So I actually wanted
Speaker 3: to take it, so I said. I spoke to Julian
Speaker 3: and I was like, I've got my movie premiere. It's
Speaker 3: my first movie, and I really like I promised to
Speaker 3: my director that I only took dancing if I could
Speaker 3: come back, and they made all the promises that i'd
Speaker 3: be back as well. We promised we'll get you back
Speaker 3: as soon as the show's done, You're back, and I
Speaker 3: was like, all right, I'll sign the contract. But little
Speaker 3: did they know that Anastasia was going to shut the
Speaker 3: border and they gave us the opportunity that were like,
Speaker 3: lots of people are you can leave if you want,
Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, I'm going to call
Speaker 3: up and I'm going to check. So I applied to leave,
Speaker 3: and the day I applied, I did not get an
Speaker 3: answer until the day I was allowed to leave. So
Speaker 3: even if I did apply, I still wasn't allowed to
Speaker 3: leave the state until I think it was I waited
Speaker 3: three months for an answer for her to say you
Speaker 3: can come back home.
Speaker 1: Did anyone leave? Did anyone leave the commitment?
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people, well a lot of
Speaker 3: them were from Melbourne, so they were able to leave.
Speaker 3: There was only me and I think three other professional
Speaker 3: dancers that they just said that they'd stay and they
Speaker 3: got stuck as long as I did as well, So
Speaker 3: there was four of us all up that got stuck
Speaker 3: out of our home state for three months, three and
Speaker 3: a half months.
Speaker 1: It is such a huge commitment. I'm always interested if
Speaker 1: the celebrities know who their dancing partners will be. Did
Speaker 1: you know that Julian would be back to take you
Speaker 1: through the dances?
Speaker 3: No, so I was. I knew I knew that I was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you're supposed to say that
Speaker 3: because we pretend we don't know, but we do know,
Speaker 3: because before you sign, they're like, oh, the beauty of
Speaker 3: this is you know, it's Dancing at the Stars, all Stars.
Speaker 3: So if you can be reunited with your original partner,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like a nice story behind that. Plus
Speaker 3: you get through the first, you know, awkward stage of
Speaker 3: having to get to know somebody quite personally quite quickly.
Speaker 3: But I didn't have Julian for the first week. He
Speaker 3: had to do because he came from a hot spot.
Speaker 3: He had to do a week hotel quarantine in the
Speaker 3: poor thing. So I had a different dancer for the
Speaker 3: first week. So Julian and I only had three weeks together.
Speaker 1: I know this is a little cheeky to ask, but
Speaker 1: I loved watching you in the background, knowing you as
Speaker 1: I do. You were very expressive with Julian. Did Is
Speaker 1: there a bit of a love hate relationship that happens
Speaker 1: with your dance partner?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh yeah, yes, so I did see
Speaker 3: you on the first episode. It looks like that we're
Speaker 3: having a punch up, like a verbal punch up, but
Speaker 3: when not, we were fully just that's just me talking.
Speaker 3: Just I'm so I use so much expression, which I'm
Speaker 3: surprised I can do because I've got so much photos.
Speaker 3: I talk with my entire high pace and I was
Speaker 3: looking and I was like, all that looks like I
Speaker 3: was cross. But we were literally probably just like bitching
Speaker 3: about me and I would have been just carrying off,
Speaker 3: but we do. He was like, he's like my little brother.
Speaker 1: I just love watching you be yourself. Is it quite
Speaker 1: surreal to see TV legends Darryl Summers and Sonya Krueger
Speaker 1: back on this show. Did this time feel more celebrated
Speaker 1: or more impactful because it was a return to that
Speaker 1: og brand.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When I was little, I would watch Dancing with
Speaker 3: the Stars and I would just be like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: it's such a magical show. And it was a bit
Speaker 3: different when it was with ten. I think they tried
Speaker 3: to like really jazz it up and modernize it. But
Speaker 3: this type of show, it's ballroom. You don't need to
Speaker 3: like modernize ballroom. That's the beauty of ballroom is that
Speaker 3: it's like old school and beautiful. So to be back
Speaker 3: there and have it like you know, Channel seven style
Speaker 3: with Sonya and Darryl, I was like I couldn't believe
Speaker 3: I was there. I felt it felt really weird. And
Speaker 3: then to meet Darryl, like I used to watch you
Speaker 3: on Hey, Hey, it's Saturday. I've never met Sonya before.
Speaker 3: It was super surreal.
Speaker 1: Beast there with Darryl Summers. I can't even imagine what
Speaker 1: that would be like. But what did it feel like
Speaker 1: for you? And was there something that you took away
Speaker 1: from that experience?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of like I had to I forget.
Speaker 3: You know, some of these people are probably so used
Speaker 3: to being around people like that. Even though I've been
Speaker 3: in the industry now for a few years post Google Box,
Speaker 3: I still pinch myself because I still am that girl
Speaker 3: that just you know, was from the Sunshine Cors, lived
Speaker 3: with her mate with seven dogs and watch TV Like
Speaker 3: that's still me at my core. So when I get
Speaker 3: to meet these people, I still see them as people
Speaker 3: that I watch on TV, even though I've been on TV.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like I'm chatting right
Speaker 3: now with Darryl. It's weird, Like I get all awkward
Speaker 3: and I say really stupid shit. I notice when I'm nervous,
Speaker 3: I either go really quiet, really polite, or I can't
Speaker 3: stop swearing. So I hope I didn't swear too much.
Speaker 1: Well, there's the headline right there, and you can't swears.
Speaker 1: Darryl Summers I know.
Speaker 3: If people would hate me, let's be the next thing
Speaker 3: is like, who swears at Daryl Summers? Ont of more
Speaker 3: of You.
Speaker 1: Also got to see some pretty amazing celebrities that joined
Speaker 1: you on this series. Who was the most impressive to watch?
Speaker 1: You know? As you got to see the other dancers perform.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was like a little school kid embarrassingly.
Speaker 3: This is why I got really nervous with Courtney Courtney Act.
Speaker 3: I've been watching Courtney Act for so long. I followed
Speaker 3: all of Courtney slash Shane's work when they were in
Speaker 3: London because I'm a massive London TV like I love
Speaker 3: all the English programs and like all the English reality TV.
Speaker 3: I'm a sucker for So when I got to meet
Speaker 3: Courtney in flesh and then obviously shame, I was just like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, Like what I had to call my
Speaker 3: mum because we're obsessed with Courtney. That was the main
Speaker 3: one for me. I was like, I can't believe I
Speaker 3: get to dance. I wish I wasn't on the same
Speaker 3: team as Courtney. I mean, you can't compete with Courtney.
Speaker 3: Nobody cat.
Speaker 1: I was watching Courtney's first dance and I think I
Speaker 1: texted you at the time, I felt like they must
Speaker 1: have needed special effects to get into some of those positions.
Speaker 1: What was it like to see that dance in the fleshy.
Speaker 3: That's just Courtney. There was no special unless there's something
Speaker 3: different they've added that I haven't seen. But watching her
Speaker 3: and her partner, Josh, who I'm in love with, they're
Speaker 3: both so divine. Watching them together is just like watching
Speaker 3: pure magic. They're just sensational, and that the chemistry they
Speaker 3: have together, it's just magnetic, like it looks like special
Speaker 3: effects because it's just like real life. It's unfair. Nobody
Speaker 3: should have to dance next to Courtney and Josh it.
Speaker 3: She just shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 1: And of course I want you to win, but you know,
Speaker 1: do you have a pick as to who you think
Speaker 1: is going to take out the competition?
Speaker 3: I would I would like Courtney to win because I
Speaker 3: think that they definitely got rob the first time when
Speaker 3: they came when she came second. But there's so much
Speaker 3: talent this season, Like everybody is so good. David is amazing, Grant,
Speaker 3: Daniel is amazing. I reckon, yeah, out of Dave, Courtney
Speaker 3: or Grant, they're all so amazing to watch.
Speaker 1: We should have that as Angie's footy tips, you know,
Speaker 1: like heard a bed on sports Bet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all hint for you.
Speaker 1: So with Celebrity goggle Box returning, I really hope to
Speaker 1: see you and Evie back in that format. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, you both would have been great and it
Speaker 1: could have been a real full circle opportunity to acknowledge
Speaker 1: sort of how far you two girls have come. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on goggle Box and would you ever
Speaker 1: return to that show?
Speaker 3: I love google Box actually doing twenty four hour goggle
Speaker 3: Box marathon on a pop up channel on Boxtel as
Speaker 3: we speak. So Evie and I have been watching it
Speaker 3: because I'm at home healing at the moment post surgery,
Speaker 3: and Evie and I have been watching it and just
Speaker 3: texting each other because I have forgotten how amazing that
Speaker 3: show is. I can't wait for Celebrity goggle Box. When
Speaker 3: I saw that they got the Erwins on there, I
Speaker 3: had to like hinch myself because I'm just obsessed with
Speaker 3: the Irwins. I'm such a sticko for them. But yeah, like, look,
Speaker 3: I don't think Evie and I would be classified as
Speaker 3: celebrity goggle Boxes just because like, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know would we I don't feel like we. I
Speaker 3: feel like we've just come back on as like Google Boxes. Again,
Speaker 3: I don't family. Goggle Box family would quite like us
Speaker 3: to be. I think they'd be like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: why don't you just come back on and be with us,
Speaker 3: which I would probably prefer than the celebrity one.
Speaker 1: You guys are celebrities now. You know you've been the Bachelorette,
Speaker 1: You've been a celebrity in the jungle. The proof is
Speaker 1: in that title. Did they ask you to come back
Speaker 1: to goggle Box for the celebrity edition?
Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't ask us, but maybe if they
Speaker 3: did another one, I would be up for it. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's too far gone now and they
Speaker 3: might be a little bit like, no, you left, so
Speaker 3: you can't come back. I don't know how they I mean,
Speaker 3: they let Adam and Simon come back for just the
Speaker 3: standard Google Box, so maybe they'd let us do celebrity.
Speaker 3: Maybe they'd let us do standard. I think Evie and
Speaker 3: I would be up for coming back for like us season.
Speaker 3: It'd be different because we know everybody we're judging now
Speaker 3: or talking about. I watch some of it now and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, mate, Like you can't say that, Like
Speaker 3: I ring at my twenty six year old self, my
Speaker 3: twenty six year old undiagnosed celiac swollen face self. I'm like,
Speaker 3: ill shut your little tiny swollen face.
Speaker 1: You know. Would have been fun is if Bidding came
Speaker 1: down with the flu and you had to fill in
Speaker 1: and that you were then sitting with the Irwins.
Speaker 3: God, I would be so nervous and awkward, That's what
Speaker 3: I would be, really polite and I'd be like, yes,
Speaker 3: missus Irwin.
Speaker 1: She's like, eh, I can imagine you'd be goggle boxing
Speaker 1: them in real life.
Speaker 3: Awkward. I'd like, still staring at me, your sicker.
Speaker 1: I also want to say, I'm really appreciative of how
Speaker 1: vocal you are about dating shows these days and talking
Speaker 1: about it on social media. Do you kind of feel
Speaker 1: like you have a lot to share with that community,
Speaker 1: with that reality TV community.
Speaker 3: Obviously living it you gain more of an insight and
Speaker 3: then obviously being a view are it's two different things.
Speaker 3: I just feel like I'm one of those people that
Speaker 3: probably offers my opinion even if people don't want to
Speaker 3: hear it. It's just something I've always kind of done,
Speaker 3: and I get asked to do the recaps for things
Speaker 3: like Maths or The bachelorettam Bachelor, so obviously somebody wants
Speaker 3: to hear it, and I just go off plastic speriences
Speaker 3: or what I think of dating. I know it can
Speaker 3: offend a lot of people, especially sis gender men. They
Speaker 3: hate my opinion that my audience isn't thought, isn't them.
Speaker 3: So if they don't like it, they don't look darling,
Speaker 3: just don't look.
Speaker 1: But I kind of think that the way you've been
Speaker 1: able to find your voice is really important for women.
Speaker 1: You've been sort of paving a way for people who
Speaker 1: are in your audience to speak up.
Speaker 3: I think so true. I feel like growing up I
Speaker 3: was so many women were told you have to just
Speaker 3: look good, don't talk back, think before you speak, And
Speaker 3: I think it's so great now that we don't have
Speaker 3: to do that, and you should say whatever you want,
Speaker 3: and you should act however you want to act, and
Speaker 3: do it for yourself, don't do it for some random
Speaker 3: dude that probably doesn't even know your last name. We
Speaker 3: don't need to live to serve the dudes anymore, do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I think it's important to
Speaker 3: really just own who you are and just do you.
Speaker 3: Life is so short and so unpredictable. Everybody should just
Speaker 3: not take themselves so seriously and have fun.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's kind of your thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't take yourself too seriously. You can have an
Speaker 1: opinion and then you have a bit of a sense
Speaker 1: of humor about it. I guess that's probably why you've
Speaker 1: become like the darling of reality television, is that you're
Speaker 1: extremely accessible that way.
Speaker 3: Well I hope. So. I know I'm not everybody's cup
Speaker 3: of tea, but you know, if you're not laughing with me,
Speaker 3: you can laugh at me, and I guarantee you're going
Speaker 3: to be doing either of those two. But you're laughing,
Speaker 3: So what's the problem. I'm not making you cry, so
Speaker 3: it should be a good thing really.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is a real naughty question as well.
Speaker 1: What would you like to see happen as the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two Bachelor and Bachelorette seasons come back? You know,
Speaker 1: what do you think they need to do to the format?
Speaker 1: Because people are saying that it's going to get shaken up.
Speaker 3: It's so tough because I feel as though the franchise
Speaker 3: is exhausted for sure. I think that well, My season
Speaker 3: and Matt ad New season was the last season before
Speaker 3: COVID hit, and ever since then, ratings have just been
Speaker 3: quite rubbish. I don't know if it's who they're picking
Speaker 3: or people are just over it because of COVID. They
Speaker 3: threw everything, what is that saying? The kitchen sink, everything
Speaker 3: in the kitchen sink, and the ratings were just like
Speaker 3: the worst. So I'm not sure what's going on. Maybe
Speaker 3: people are just over it. I reckon. What they should
Speaker 3: do this year is give it a rest. I reckon,
Speaker 3: just have a solid year off and then people will
Speaker 3: be like, oh, remember how much we did enjoy Or
Speaker 3: they should pick people that actually want to fall in
Speaker 3: love and stop picking all these people that literally only
Speaker 3: want to go on for blue ticks because we've got
Speaker 3: you know, Love Island and Maths for that. Whereas this
Speaker 3: show used to be a show where people actually did
Speaker 3: really fall in love, and it's sad that people just
Speaker 3: don't really stick together anymore.
Speaker 1: I guess this is where the unrelatability of the format
Speaker 1: has formed, so to speak. You know, the fact that
Speaker 1: people were not authentically on the show for the right reason.
Speaker 1: I think they need to steer clear from people who
Speaker 1: want to be on the show for you know, notoriety.
Speaker 3: I think so. And I also think back in the day,
Speaker 3: you know, when Sam Frost did Hers and Georgia Loved
Speaker 3: did Hers and there was someone else before was it?
Speaker 3: Sophie was after that, So that was kind of before
Speaker 3: it was like social media was huge and they weren't
Speaker 3: allowed to post much. I think Sophie's season social media
Speaker 3: started to get pretty big, but before social media was
Speaker 3: it was like more of the love stories and the
Speaker 3: men didn't get the blue ticks or the girls didn't
Speaker 3: get the blue ticks. And then BIP came along and
Speaker 3: it kind of like you don't really know who's there
Speaker 3: for you, and then who's there to go on Bachelor
Speaker 3: in Paradise. So I think BIP really threw a spanner
Speaker 3: in the works with that as well.
Speaker 1: We also need to talk about your acting. You started
Speaker 1: a feature film last year. Is this going to be
Speaker 1: the next act in your career? Are we going to
Speaker 1: see more of the actress side of Angie Kent?
Speaker 3: No So. I studied film television behind the scenes because
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be a director, producer of theater.
Speaker 3: So I studied acting so I could be a really
Speaker 3: good director, which was so I don't know why I
Speaker 3: wanted to be in theater. I just the theater growing up,
Speaker 3: and not that I went to it because I was
Speaker 3: like four. But I don't know. I just loved it.
Speaker 3: And so I did study acting in Brisbane and over
Speaker 3: in the States. I did a semester abroad and study
Speaker 3: performance and I had so much fun and I never
Speaker 3: you know, after that, I just worked behind the scenes
Speaker 3: and documentaries and marketing and producing, and then it kind
Speaker 3: of just happened. I guess maybe because I'm not really
Speaker 3: scared of the camera. I'd talk to it like it's
Speaker 3: my best friend. But it's so different to then act.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm any good. I can't. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I think I'm only good at being myself.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can really do other people
Speaker 3: very well. I'd give it a go.
Speaker 1: Well, what did you think of watching yourself in your
Speaker 1: first feature film?
Speaker 3: I need to watch it again, because when I watched it,
Speaker 3: I was still stuck in Sydney and I wouldn't go
Speaker 3: on the TV. So I had to watch my first frickin'
Speaker 3: movie on my laptop. It was so sad. I was
Speaker 3: so busy judging. It was so busy judging myself that
Speaker 3: I don't I think i'd pretty good. It's really hard
Speaker 3: to act scare. You can either look really ridiculous or
Speaker 3: can take it too far. So I think for a
Speaker 3: first time I was quite good, but I could still
Speaker 3: see glimpses of myself. I was like, well, that's just me, Like,
Speaker 3: that's just me being a bit scared and a like
Speaker 3: a like a less kind of out there version of myself.
Speaker 3: I'd love to play something where I'm like a real bitch,
Speaker 3: or like just something that's so not me, like like
Speaker 3: a husband's stealing mole.
Speaker 1: I think if Melroe's Place comes back and it was
Speaker 1: really tongue in cheek, you could be the next head
Speaker 1: a lovelier.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that'd be so fun. Look, I give
Speaker 3: anything a red hot go. If the opportunity comes up
Speaker 3: and it sits well within me and my gut, I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to do it, and I'm
Speaker 3: going to have I'm going to have a bloody good
Speaker 3: time while I do it.
Speaker 1: I guess this industry is so hard as well, and
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes people think everyone on television is
Speaker 1: just getting job after job and everything's sort of rolling
Speaker 1: a certain way, where an actual fact, it is really hard.
Speaker 1: How do you cope with rejection working in this industry?
Speaker 1: I mean, it can be brutal.
Speaker 3: Because these last couple of years have been a little
Speaker 3: bit quieter. It kind of went so full on for
Speaker 3: me when I first left goggle Box and then the
Speaker 3: pandemic hit, and that was like always the work's always
Speaker 3: been quite consistent, which I've been lucky with. But I
Speaker 3: don't think there's ever been something that I've been put
Speaker 3: forward that I know of that I've been like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: I really am sad I didn't get that. I always
Speaker 3: feel like if I don't get something, or if there's
Speaker 3: something that I want that hasn't been offered to me,
Speaker 3: that's just a sign from the universe, and I don't
Speaker 3: I don't want to get me down too much, not
Speaker 3: yet anyway, Maybe I will eventually.
Speaker 1: I think it's important in our career that we need
Speaker 1: to roll with the punchers, and you know, not always
Speaker 1: believe that we're deserved to be cast or picked in shows,
Speaker 1: even when we want to be.
Speaker 3: Well that's it. You can't ever expect that you deserve
Speaker 3: something or that's yours, because if you come into the
Speaker 3: industry thinking that, you are going to be wildly disappointed
Speaker 3: and let down because we know like how the industry works.
Speaker 3: It's just it can be ruthless and they've always got
Speaker 3: a bigger plan than we'll ever know, and you kind
Speaker 3: of don't want to tap into that because that's you're
Speaker 3: never going to know what they're thinking.
Speaker 1: And aren't we lucky? Evie is always telling us we
Speaker 1: are always in the right place at the right time,
Speaker 1: and some things don't work out because you know there's
Speaker 1: something else waiting for us in the wings.
Speaker 3: She's really good at things like that, and it's right,
Speaker 3: everything always pops up when it's supposed to because the
Speaker 3: universe kind of always lets you have your moments before
Speaker 3: big things come. I feel anyway.
Speaker 1: And isn't it fun to have your own dial a counselor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she is good with stuff like that, isn't she?
Speaker 1: To finish this podcast? Just a question I always ask
Speaker 1: all of my guests, what is something from behind the
Speaker 1: scenes that we as an audience didn't see that we
Speaker 1: might appreciate from dancing with the stars.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, here's a little there's a little one. So
Speaker 3: for the second group with the girls. So obviously the
Speaker 3: boys have their own dressing room and the girls have
Speaker 3: their dressing room. And on my team, the team I
Speaker 3: was in was me, Olympia a Lance, Ricky Lee, Denny Hines,
Speaker 3: and Courtney at but so us the four girls got out,
Speaker 3: we had like this tiny little like obviously you get
Speaker 3: your hair and makeup done before, we had this like
Speaker 3: tiny little like dress room thing that we all shared.
Speaker 3: And then Fortney had her own like tent set up
Speaker 3: for her in the side of the room, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh wow, okay, so we all squished in
Speaker 3: here and there's court over there with her like deluxe tent,
Speaker 3: which I get because like Fortney does her.
Speaker 2: Own makeup and she has her wig person come in
Speaker 2: and all her costuming, and I think she does a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff herself.
Speaker 3: But it was just interesting to walk in and then
Speaker 3: Courtney has this like deluxe sweet and we've got thistle
Speaker 3: like tent that fits the restaurans.
Speaker 1: In if they ever do like an Ultimate All Stars,
Speaker 1: you know what to ask for. I'll have the Courtney Sweet. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fully, it's like, I'm what Potney is having, but
Speaker 2: no one even questioned it, which I think is because
Speaker 2: obviously Shane becomes Courtney. So maybe Shane doesn't feel comfortable
Speaker 2: being in with the men or the world. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but they got their Oh maybe because her production is
Speaker 2: obviously so much more with the wigs and that everything's
Speaker 2: so immaculate, But it was. It was funny to see
Speaker 2: that we're all gemmed in like little sardines and all
Speaker 2: good old Courtney slash.
Speaker 3: Shane's got the deluxe sweet.
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on TV Reload and talking to me about the
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of Dancing with the Stars, and for
Speaker 1: those people listening if you want to watch.
Speaker 3: Yay, thanks for having me. Benjamin