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Speaker 1: Podcasting Now.

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Speaker 2: Celebrity Sis was obviously on last night and look, I'm

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Speaker 2: actually kind of glad this guy got kicked off because

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Speaker 2: he's a personal favorite of ours and he joins us

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Speaker 2: on the show right now.

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Speaker 3: Our next guest is an Australian cricket lake Play Play Legends.

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Speaker 1: One of his most notable successes came.

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Speaker 3: In the Ashes in twenty thirteen when he ripped through

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Speaker 3: the poems with thirty seven wickets. My dad was not happy,

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Speaker 3: but some may say his greatest achievement happened outside of

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Speaker 3: cricket when he signed up for SAS Australia.

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Speaker 4: And no we're not talking about falling out of a helicopter.

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Speaker 1: Backwards or putting up with a honey badger's thoughts, because

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Speaker 1: we mean when he revealed on national television that he's

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Speaker 1: working through depression. Bravo young man, proud of you.

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Speaker 3: He needs to talk through his experience on SAS and

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Speaker 3: what the immediate future holds.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Our cricket in favorite Rachel Johnson, Webomgod.

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Speaker 3: That was impressive. I love hearing all the different intros

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Speaker 3: and you go on all the different radio.

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Speaker 2: Stations, all the different radio stations is the only show

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Speaker 2: you've been on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the only one we're selling.

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Speaker 4: This interview is an exclusive mess. So if you can

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Speaker 4: play ball, then if you highly appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Now, Bullian, obviously Sas looks pretty grueling, But a lot

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Speaker 2: of people won't know that you and Woody used to

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Speaker 2: have to attend fashion shows together over in Perth because

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Speaker 2: both your partners were in the fashion game and you

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Speaker 2: guys would be like a fish out of water in

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Speaker 2: around the runway. What was harder having to make small

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Speaker 2: talk with woods by a cat fla or celebrity s as.

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Speaker 3: I had to hold him up the whole time because

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Speaker 3: it's the amount of beers that he would have to

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Speaker 3: hold him.

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Speaker 1: Sounds enough.

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Speaker 3: He tried the style that he was wearing. He brought

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Speaker 3: in the was it the short hand with the shoe

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Speaker 3: sort of suit sort of look? He brought that in

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Speaker 3: very early. Did he hasn't member ankle? Look?

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Speaker 4: I said to Mitch wink and I said the more

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Speaker 4: ankle the better.

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Speaker 1: And mitchill you're rocking that now.

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Speaker 3: Definitely not.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Tom. Let's talk about this wild show man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, can you can you can you talk us

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Speaker 2: through like just how hard it was on there. I mean, like,

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Speaker 2: first of all, I play somebody. This is you call

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Speaker 2: your wife Jess when you got kicked off. This is

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Speaker 2: the state that you're in.

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Speaker 1: Have listen.

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Speaker 3: Hey, however, are you okay? I'm coming home so I'm done.

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Speaker 3: It's tough.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing that right?

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Speaker 5: I just thought mentally i'd be a bit stronger at all.

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Speaker 1: I love you mate, I reckon.

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Speaker 2: I've seen you, like you know, at the dead end

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Speaker 2: of a Test match, facing some of the the hardest

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Speaker 2: bowling attacks in the world, trying to keep Australia alive

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Speaker 2: and in some cases winning, like batting out whole days

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Speaker 2: in awful conditions and all sorts of things. By the

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Speaker 2: looks of things that were going on on the TV

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Speaker 2: and your reaction there was that harder than like some

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Speaker 2: of the stuff you had to go through playing Test cricket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, I guess. I think it's just a different

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Speaker 3: time in my life as well. I'm nearing forty now

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Speaker 3: and I've got kids and cricket was that was the

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Speaker 3: thing that made me happy. I was that was my career.

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Speaker 3: You know, you work, are really hard at it and

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Speaker 3: you're doing the best job that you can for the team,

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Speaker 3: so different environments. But look, the whole experience was something

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Speaker 3: I've always wanted to do and this was just next level.

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Speaker 3: This was and look, I've never wanted to do any

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Speaker 3: TV before because I'm not looking for fame. I'm not

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Speaker 3: looking to boost my ego or anything like that. It

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Speaker 3: was just this was an opportunity, you know, says I've

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Speaker 3: seen the UK version and I was like, I've got

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Speaker 3: to give us a go. This looks it looks intense,

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Speaker 3: but I think I could get a lot from it,

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Speaker 3: and look, I take a lot of positives out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mate, well it sounds extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: Mitch.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a song your most sticking around.

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Speaker 2: We'll have more of a chat with you up next

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Speaker 2: because I'm just so interested by all this, and also

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Speaker 2: Woody hasn't asked a question yet, so.

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Speaker 3: We'll go to.

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Speaker 2: Podcasting.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: We've got Miss Johnson and joints Slight. Now I got

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Speaker 2: put off sas last night. Or I suppose like you

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Speaker 2: kind of throw in the towel, don't you. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: you've had enough.

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Speaker 1: You put your hand up, Mitch, and that's what you

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Speaker 1: did last night.

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Speaker 4: We just played the audio of you calling your wife

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Speaker 4: Jess when you wanted to leave, which is actually really

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Speaker 4: pretty difficult to listen to and watch it can go

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Speaker 4: and see that online. But Mitch, I want to talk

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Speaker 4: to you about the moment that I think it was

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Speaker 4: Monday Nights episode where you revealed within the interrogation that

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Speaker 4: you had depression.

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Speaker 1: Here's been the audio.

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Speaker 5: I've been out of playing creet for about two years,

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Speaker 5: found out I've got depression. But I think the depression

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Speaker 5: was something I've had even from a younger age. Cricket

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Speaker 5: was my sort of block things out in a way

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Speaker 5: like it's sort of hid for the depression.

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Speaker 1: But there was a lot of times where you go

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Speaker 1: back to.

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Speaker 5: Your room, you're away from family and you start to

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Speaker 5: dwell on things.

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Speaker 4: Firstly, Mate, couldn't commend you high on the courage to

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Speaker 4: be public about that and say that. And secondly, I

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Speaker 4: know that the moment that the instructors you know, started

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Speaker 4: asking you questions about this is when you're really down

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Speaker 4: on yourself. In one of the challenges can I ask

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Speaker 4: you when you're going through your cricket career, obviously confidence

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Speaker 4: is so huge for you to be doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: How did you maintain that confidence? In what was an

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Speaker 4: incredibly successful career.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question. I just found ways of blocking

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Speaker 3: things out. That's what I had to look into. I

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Speaker 3: was doing a bit of training with some XSAS guys

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Speaker 3: actually at the Mill Gym, yeah, in Perth, and I

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Speaker 3: learned a lot from them just on about mindset. So

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Speaker 3: I think one of the big things was, Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: got a bit of that back, I started to believe

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Speaker 3: And I just did it my own way as well.

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Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot more to it, but

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Speaker 3: that was just a little bit of an insight I

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Speaker 3: guess into what I did. But yeah, just going through

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Speaker 3: the essays stuff was I mean, it was a different circumstance.

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Speaker 3: You know. I did get rattled by a few things

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Speaker 3: that were on there. You have a lot of time

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Speaker 3: to think as well between the tasks, so it does

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Speaker 3: all add up and build and it makes it very

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Speaker 3: difficult when you're in your own head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the big gamon, isn't it. Mitch. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Mate sas returns next Monday on Channel seven and Mitch

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Speaker 2: is actually going to be back on the show really

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Speaker 2: so next week, I think actually for November. Obviously, one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest modes that November has ever seen is

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Speaker 2: Mitchell Johnson's and particularly given that he's spoken about his

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Speaker 2: depression or recently, he's going to come on this show

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Speaker 2: for a mo talk. We're doing talks all throughout November

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Speaker 2: with interesting, influential and famous people about their influence and

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Speaker 2: their experiences with depression. So Mitch is going to be

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Speaker 2: on there next month. Can't wait for that. Thanks again

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Speaker 2: for joining us, Mitch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good to hear you, guys.

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