Speaker 1: Gooday, Pete Hally here, welcome to you Ain't seen nothing
Speaker 1: yet the movie Podcast. We're ourtch out to a movie
Speaker 1: lover a bet, a classicalor beloved movie they haven't quite
Speaker 1: got around to watching until now. And today's returning guests,
Speaker 1: actor writer, comedian great Josh Thompson all below.
Speaker 2: I want to stay here with you. That's the trouble.
Speaker 1: My hat snake sucked. Why hail, it wouldn't be happening, right.
Speaker 3: You ain't seen nothing new?
Speaker 1: Yes, Josh Thompson returns to do Toy Story two. He
Speaker 1: took on the trilogy, and god damn it, we're going
Speaker 1: to hold him to it. Josh is the second time
Speaker 1: he's on, so he doesn't get necessarily the full on
Speaker 1: bio kind of read out that I do with a
Speaker 1: lot of my guests. But I will say this, he
Speaker 1: is such a delight he I think we have something
Speaker 1: urgeing on, like a romance. He just he did a day.
Speaker 1: We spoke about this when he was last time on
Speaker 1: how to Stay Married with Tom Barge, and we just
Speaker 1: became all became class friends. He's just a guy. When
Speaker 1: I see he puts a smile on my face, he
Speaker 1: puts a smile on my face. He makes people feel good.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a real positive energy about him.
Speaker 1: He he, We've got to really know each other even
Speaker 1: a bit more when he took on the New Zealand
Speaker 1: project and basically sat in the seat that I sat
Speaker 1: on the Australian project, and I went over there and
Speaker 1: this kind of chatted to him about how I did it,
Speaker 1: and then he ignored all of it. To be honest,
Speaker 1: he did a great job for a couple of years
Speaker 1: and then basically was getting too much work, so he
Speaker 1: would hang on it's me ten years to have too
Speaker 1: much work that bear as you walk away from the project.
Speaker 1: It took Josh two years. But he's currently in a
Speaker 1: Pixar series. I think it's Pixar's first TV series as
Speaker 1: opposed to a movie called Win or Lose, and we
Speaker 1: discussed a little bit of that is a part that
Speaker 1: turns out was actually written for him. Josh has a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. He's the smart, talented and I'm bloody
Speaker 1: stoke to be hanging with him again today.
Speaker 2: Hello, I'm Josh Thompson and my next three favorite films
Speaker 2: are Armadaeus and there are simply too many notes. That's
Speaker 2: all just quit a few and a little bit perfect network.
Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody
Speaker 2: knows things are bad. And Labyrinth magic, and up until recently,
Speaker 2: I've never seen Toy Story two.
Speaker 1: What are you in danger? Here?
Speaker 4: We need to leave now, ol selling you to a
Speaker 4: toy museum in Japan.
Speaker 3: I know it's okay, Hey, buzz I actually want to go.
Speaker 3: What are you crazy?
Speaker 1: Look?
Speaker 3: The thing is I'm a rare sheriff Woody Doll, and
Speaker 3: these guys are my roundup gang, Woodie, what are you
Speaker 3: talking about?
Speaker 1: What am I talking about? What he's round up? Oh?
Speaker 3: It's this great old TV show and I was the star.
Speaker 1: See don't look look look at me.
Speaker 2: See that's mean.
Speaker 1: This has ridden me out, buzz.
Speaker 3: It was a national phenomenon and there was all this
Speaker 3: merchandise and just got packed up all you should have
Speaker 3: seen it.
Speaker 2: There was a record player at a yoyo.
Speaker 4: Buzz I was a yo yo buzz What he stopped
Speaker 4: this nonsense and let's go.
Speaker 3: Buzz I can't go. I can't abandon these guys. They
Speaker 3: need me to get into this museum. Without me, they'll
Speaker 3: go back into storage maybe forever.
Speaker 4: Woodie, you're not a collector's item. You're a child's plaything.
Speaker 1: You are a toy for.
Speaker 3: How much longer?
Speaker 2: One more ripping it?
Speaker 3: He's done with me?
Speaker 2: And what do I do?
Speaker 1: Then? Buzz huh?
Speaker 4: You tell me somewhere in that pais stuff In is
Speaker 4: a toy who taught me that life's only worth living
Speaker 4: if you'll be in.
Speaker 2: Love by a kid.
Speaker 4: And I traveled all this way to rescue that toy
Speaker 4: because I believed him.
Speaker 3: Well, you wasted your time.
Speaker 1: Woody and Bars are back. Yes. When Woody, of course,
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks accidentally ends up in a yard sale, Al
Speaker 1: from Al's Toy Barn plans to sell him and his
Speaker 1: fellow cast members from an old TV show, Woodies Round
Speaker 1: Up to a museum in Tokyo. Buzz light Year. Tim
Speaker 1: Allen feels like he owes Woody, so launches a rescue
Speaker 1: mission alongside Rex, Mister Potato Head, Slinky and Ham. There
Speaker 1: are thrills and spills as the toys make their way
Speaker 1: across town to rescue their fearless leader, who may be
Speaker 1: having second thoughts about returning to his owner Andy. There
Speaker 1: are a spate of great new character voiced by various
Speaker 1: legends from Cowgirl Jesse, Joan Cusac, Prospector, Stinky Pete, Kelsey Grammar,
Speaker 1: and Big l Wayne Knight at around ninety minutes. Toy
Speaker 1: Story two ticks along at a cracking pace with in
Speaker 1: jokes from Star Wars. It's a Jurassic Park to a
Speaker 1: bug's life. Plus it hits all the nostalgic emotional notes
Speaker 1: just as much, if not more than it's predecessor. Josh Thompson,
Speaker 1: have you ever found yourself in a box at a
Speaker 1: yard sale?
Speaker 2: I wish what a dream, What an absolute dream. I'll
Speaker 2: be hid down on there, snuffling away like a pig
Speaker 2: at a whatever pig snuffle away.
Speaker 1: At truffles, troubles, the slop, it's all there. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to you. Ain't see mapping yet, Josh Thompson, Yes, you
Speaker 1: did Toy Story one. We like somebody does a movie
Speaker 1: that has a classic trilogy kind of attached to it,
Speaker 1: and this certainly falls under the I think the classic trilogy.
Speaker 1: We need to have you back. So while the lead
Speaker 1: did Star Wars the whole three, Gregor did The Godfather
Speaker 1: three films, and you'll come back to do a Toy
Speaker 1: Story two. I appreciate it free much.
Speaker 2: That's a great, a great honor. I'm very lucky to
Speaker 2: be here. I loved it. Yeah, is it.
Speaker 1: True, before we get into it, that you've been using
Speaker 1: this podcast to refine your Aussie accent?
Speaker 2: Yes, it is. I had to do. I was on
Speaker 2: a show and oz and I had to play a
Speaker 2: character who was in Australian and so I listened to
Speaker 2: this religiously. I got through so many episodes and I
Speaker 2: loved every second of it. It's been helping me so great.
Speaker 2: It's so good for just sort of regional dialects and
Speaker 2: just the sort of little bits in between words, just
Speaker 2: how what you just sort of little noises that you
Speaker 2: guys make when you're thinking and whatever, that sort of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I think I think my character I was in
Speaker 2: the Australian version of the Office. My character's voice is
Speaker 2: based on yours and everybody else you've interviewed.
Speaker 1: It's based on one hundred and fifty six people. Speaking
Speaker 1: of accents, I have to say, and correction is on
Speaker 1: the Office, by the way I made that. The you know,
Speaker 1: the pressure I felt that series must have been. It
Speaker 1: was under from and there's you know, you weren't gonna
Speaker 1: satisfy everybody because you know, the Office is one of
Speaker 1: the most beloved. I watched it all in about two
Speaker 1: sittings and I loved it, like, really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I love the points of differences that you guys brought
Speaker 1: to it. The Melbourne Cup episode in particular, I thought
Speaker 1: was it was a beauty. The Felicity was great in
Speaker 1: the lead, and you and Steen, and it was a
Speaker 1: great cast. Lots of people I didn't know, some people
Speaker 1: I did, but really really really lovely.
Speaker 2: So kind. Yeah, it was so it was so much
Speaker 2: fun to do. I got into it too deeply though,
Speaker 2: because the other the other actors, because it's a real
Speaker 2: it was a real office set. You could see they
Speaker 2: could go because it was semi some of it was improvised,
Speaker 2: sort of improvised. You could sort of walk around and
Speaker 2: shoot it from any way. So we were always on
Speaker 2: set and all our computers and things phones were real.
Speaker 2: Mine was the only computer that no one could. You
Speaker 2: could see the screen easily. So I ended up doing
Speaker 2: a lot of taxes just during set days, and I
Speaker 2: got through about eight months of Texas. I also got
Speaker 2: rid of a lot of I photo dupilicates and unsubscribed
Speaker 2: from a lot of emails, So I do miss being
Speaker 2: on set and I am behind in my Texas. I
Speaker 2: hope it goes again.
Speaker 1: I certainly hope it goes again. I think you certainly
Speaker 1: deserve another chance, and you know I don't when you
Speaker 1: get done for tax evasion. Yeah, writing on us, speaking
Speaker 1: of great accents a moment, Great Assie Accents is a
Speaker 1: show on Netflix which has just come out which I
Speaker 1: have a tiny like I did two hours on it.
Speaker 1: I mean like I mean it for like literally twenty seconds,
Speaker 1: called Apple Side of Vinegar. Yes, the story of Bell Gibson,
Speaker 1: and I have to say, and I've watched the first
Speaker 1: few episodes and I really enjoyed it. Look forward to
Speaker 1: seeing where it goes. It's a real takedown, I guess
Speaker 1: of the wellness industry and Bell Gibson with somebody who
Speaker 1: claimed to cure yourself of cancer and by you concoction
Speaker 1: of diet and things like apple sin of Viniger. But
Speaker 1: the actress who plays Belle Gibson, I have to say.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sorry. I thought this is unaware of the series.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a series about mel Gibson.
Speaker 1: Well, they as you make that joke within the SI,
Speaker 1: they actually do they actually do.
Speaker 2: I don't remember him being associated with well, almost.
Speaker 1: The opposite you would, you would argue, but it's her name.
Speaker 1: I want to get it right because sometimes I do.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Deaver. You may remember her from Book Smart. That's
Speaker 1: the first time I saw her, and she's she's great.
Speaker 1: Her Australian accent is, without a doubt, the best Australian
Speaker 1: accent I have ever heard from, certainly from an American.
Speaker 1: You guys have you know, like I understand that there
Speaker 1: are little nuances and things that you're trying to perfect
Speaker 1: in your accent, but it's it's not a world away, yeah,
Speaker 1: even though there is, you know, like there's work to
Speaker 1: be done that you obviously put in by listening to
Speaker 1: way too many episodes of this podcast. But an American
Speaker 1: like it's like it reminds me of the Renee Zellweger
Speaker 1: Bridget Jones when she it's not just the fact that
Speaker 1: she nails the accent. She seems to get the little
Speaker 1: things that you're talking about. When you learn for the office,
Speaker 1: it's it's not just the words, it's actually how you
Speaker 1: deliver the asides and how you deliver a line, and culturally,
Speaker 1: you know, how that fits in. She's not once am
Speaker 1: I watching her performance thinking she's an American doing an Australian accent.
Speaker 1: She is. It is sincerely the best thing I've ever
Speaker 1: seen as far as heard, as far as an accent goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I got to watch it. I mean, I
Speaker 2: do find it interesting that after talking about the amount
Speaker 2: of work that I did on my accent, you then
Speaker 2: started talking about how good another actor's accent is a
Speaker 2: great length and how good, but the best you've heard
Speaker 2: it's Australian.
Speaker 1: I've seen yours and I've seen her.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad that it.
Speaker 1: Has been top of mind. I must say that I'm
Speaker 1: watching this thing and I'm blown I'm blown away. But
Speaker 1: I mean equally, I mean, you obviously missed the episode
Speaker 1: when I was talking this much about your accent. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you missed that episode.
Speaker 2: I know what you mean that because Anthony Hopkins was
Speaker 2: in a movie called The World's Pastest Indian and he
Speaker 2: played a Kiwi. But he played a Kiwi from the
Speaker 2: tip of the southern tip of the South Island who's
Speaker 2: from in the cargo and they in the cargo is
Speaker 2: one of the only spots in New Zealand that actually
Speaker 2: has a regionally specific accent because they kind of roll
Speaker 2: their rs. It's kind of more slightly more Scottish should
Speaker 2: have feel to it. And even New Zealanders, a lot
Speaker 2: of New Zealanders were like, he's got the accent wrong.
Speaker 2: But his accent is amazing. It's specific to a tiny
Speaker 2: area in the South Island that most New Zealanders don't
Speaker 2: even understand how good the accent is.
Speaker 1: Must that be for Anthony Hopkins and he's actually put
Speaker 1: the work in, He's gone above and beyond, and even
Speaker 1: Kiewee's are like, shit has bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because most of the population doesn't live in
Speaker 2: this tiny area and only people from the South. I
Speaker 2: know what people from the area sound like. It's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm sure well Antie Hopkins probably Okay, he's
Speaker 2: probably gotten through it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I think he's not worrying too much about
Speaker 1: what people in the Wellington are saying about his accent.
Speaker 1: In the World's fast as Indian. Let's talk about your
Speaker 1: next three favorite films. Obviously I mentioned at the start
Speaker 1: Star Wars entered the Drag in the top secret with
Speaker 1: your first three favorite films, and you follow it up with,
Speaker 1: let's start with a film that I haven't seen and
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to check it out, which is of course, well,
Speaker 1: of course, but Armadaeus.
Speaker 2: Oh, you Pete, you've got to watch it. It's so good.
Speaker 1: You know why of the side of recently, I must
Speaker 1: watch it because I was watching Parenthood, and which I
Speaker 1: love that movie, and you kind of I kind of
Speaker 1: know everybody in it, Steve Martin and and all that,
Speaker 1: but the son have you seen Have you seen the
Speaker 1: Parenthood or do you remember Parenthood? No, no, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that great, great movie about parenting. And but they're young.
Speaker 1: Joaquin Phoenix is in it. But it's got a performance
Speaker 1: by a bloke who I hadn't seen before. It kind
Speaker 1: of looked familiar to me, and I was always like,
Speaker 1: where's that guy from? And I googled him as I
Speaker 1: was watching it, and he's he's best known for playing
Speaker 1: as he is, and in Parenthood he's so he plays
Speaker 1: his kind of the son of Steve Martin's younger brother
Speaker 1: who and Steve Martin's always like doing the right thing
Speaker 1: and being the best dad, and this kid's like the
Speaker 1: black sheep of the family, and and it's such a
Speaker 1: beautiful performance that I was, well, if Armadas is what
Speaker 1: he's known for, and I need to watch Armads.
Speaker 2: That's that's Tom Holts, I think, yes, yeah, and he's
Speaker 2: he's incredible and so Amadeus. It's about it's about Mozart,
Speaker 2: but it's really about a composer called Saliary. I'll try
Speaker 2: not to spoil it for you. But who's played Who's
Speaker 2: played by f Murray Abraham And he's incredible. They're all incredible.
Speaker 2: I think everybody got nominated from us Becars what it's
Speaker 2: one of those movies. And he's he learns of a
Speaker 2: new composer in town. It's Amadaeus. He's a young upstart.
Speaker 2: He's uncultured, he's brash, he's got a horrific laugh. He's
Speaker 2: and but he he's has the musical gift of an angel.
Speaker 2: And because it's based on a play, the dialogue is
Speaker 2: incredible and it gives these wonderful actors so much room
Speaker 2: to chew through. It's so good when they all of
Speaker 2: it's so good, and it's backed with this incredible Mozart.
Speaker 2: You know, the classical music has been put together with
Speaker 2: it so well, and so it's really about the consuming
Speaker 2: j that Saliary has about this Mozart, this sort of
Speaker 2: buffoon who doesn't deserve this gift from God. And so
Speaker 2: Salu goes on a journey to destroy Mozart, and it's
Speaker 2: it's it's incredible. It's got one of my favorite scenes
Speaker 2: of all times where and it's an introduction to Mozart.
Speaker 2: Salary is the court composer for an emperor, and so
Speaker 2: he hears that Mozart's coming. So he writes a march,
Speaker 2: a piano march, and the emperor learns of it, and
Speaker 2: the emperor wants to play it. So the emperor can't
Speaker 2: play piano for shit, and he's playing it awfully, and
Speaker 2: so you get this amazing thing where Salari is trying
Speaker 2: to teach the emperor how to play, but without insulting him.
Speaker 2: And if you've ever had piano last lessons, you can
Speaker 2: hear that discordant as soon as you hear a discordant
Speaker 2: chord or a wrong note, there's just a lot of those,
Speaker 2: and you can see it on his face how much
Speaker 2: this composer is struggling with this, the highest person in
Speaker 2: the land, butchering his music as Mozart comes in, and
Speaker 2: Mozart gets everything wrong. He doesn't know who the actual
Speaker 2: emperor bows to the wrong person, and then then they
Speaker 2: all meet each other and it's just this wonderful mix
Speaker 2: of tension between there's there's an opera I can't remember who,
Speaker 2: but there's at least court people, and they've all got
Speaker 2: their status and it's just this huge status play. And
Speaker 2: then Mozart wants to write an opera in German and
Speaker 2: Yon doesn't want them too. And then by the way,
Speaker 2: he starts talking about the song that was playing when
Speaker 2: he came in, and then Mozart goes, oh, I can
Speaker 2: play it, and they're all from memory and from one
Speaker 2: from one hearing incorrectly, and then he plays it amazingly,
Speaker 2: and then he says it's not quite right, is it?
Speaker 2: And then he starts just doctoring it and changing it
Speaker 2: and improvising it. It's this incredible scene of him making
Speaker 2: the music insane, and then you recognize the song. It
Speaker 2: becomes so it's almost like Mozart walked and heard a song,
Speaker 2: made it a Mozart song in front of the guy
Speaker 2: who originally wrote it. But it's just this wonderful introduction
Speaker 2: of different levels of musicality from this guy who can't
Speaker 2: play a guy who wrote it and then the world's
Speaker 2: greatest genius and you hit. It's just it's just a
Speaker 2: great scene. It's hard.
Speaker 1: So is it kind of the idea? Have you ever? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been doing comedy a long time, the
Speaker 1: two of us. Over the journey. Sometimes you'll you'll see
Speaker 1: whether you're watching it on special, like a you know,
Speaker 1: coming to a Netflix special, HBO special, or you see
Speaker 1: somebody live you're gonna go, ah, maybe I should retire,
Speaker 1: Like maybe I should. Yeah, maybe like you and for
Speaker 1: it and for that night you're kind of equally inspired,
Speaker 1: but also a little bit like oh fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember I think I saw Seinfeld
Speaker 2: come to New Zealand and he did it. He did
Speaker 2: an incredible show. And I was watching it going at
Speaker 2: about ten minutes and like my brain switched and just
Speaker 2: went I just stopped laughing, and I just went, you're
Speaker 2: watching a master I need to just start learning. And
Speaker 2: I just sort of went as if I was at
Speaker 2: the school and I just I just didn't enjoyed it
Speaker 2: a different way. But this is so this is like
Speaker 2: consuming rage, jealousy, and this guy does anything you can
Speaker 2: to destroy Mozart, And yeah, it's I don't want to
Speaker 2: ruin it, but years what, Yeah, it's it's so good.
Speaker 2: It also has it's really funny, it's incredibly world Regulus,
Speaker 2: it's beautiful. Everyone's got it's been the same wigs. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but no one's got everyone's got their own accents, so
Speaker 2: no one's doing hoity toty accents. So Tom Hools sounds
Speaker 2: like Tom Whols an American.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Because occasionally you'll see
Speaker 1: a film, often like the World War Two films. You know,
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise did the movie. It's basically just been Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1: I'm like, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what a secret ingredient is.
Speaker 2: I think I think it works in this instance because
Speaker 2: if Mary Abraham has a American accent, but it's very cultured,
Speaker 2: and most of the other actors are British or you know, Italian,
Speaker 2: so they sort of vised the natural accents. But because
Speaker 2: Mozart's got it sort of younger American accent, he feels
Speaker 2: like he doesn't fit right. So that makes sense thematically
Speaker 2: for the whole thing. And his girlfriend and it's the
Speaker 2: same sort of accent that seemed very young in Heaven,
Speaker 2: rude and brash and loud, which may or may not
Speaker 2: suit an American accent quite well. Yeah, and because I
Speaker 2: think what was the one where the nuclear thing blew up?
Speaker 1: Which which movie was? It was a Michael Bay film.
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, again a movie with an explosion.
Speaker 1: I think this movie with an explosion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Chernobyl, they all had their natural accents, but
Speaker 2: no one was doing Russian. I felt that really worked
Speaker 2: really well. But yeah, so that's it's just as a
Speaker 2: great film. You don't have to be into classical music.
Speaker 2: It's about jealousy and revenge and it's beautiful. It's really beautiful. Also,
Speaker 2: it's quite really funny, Like the guy Salary is also
Speaker 2: obsessed with food, so there's there's all this stuff about
Speaker 2: cream puffs since there's venus nipples and all these sort
Speaker 2: of pastries that just take a lot of boxes for me. Yeah, music,
Speaker 2: acting and cream puffs.
Speaker 1: Labyrinth, labynth Yeah, David Bowie of course, young Jennifer Connolly
Speaker 1: and Jim Henson was directed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim Henson, Yeah, I mean Watcher growing up, I
Speaker 2: wore out of VHS tape that we taped off television.
Speaker 2: I did very well pausing at the right time during
Speaker 2: the record to get out all the breaks.
Speaker 1: The pressure, Yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot of pressure, but I really really had it
Speaker 2: sort of.
Speaker 1: Then we spoke about a bit last time. Was there
Speaker 1: was there in your family? How many siblings do you have? Siblings?
Speaker 2: Yeah, two older brothers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Usually there's somebody in charge who was like you
Speaker 1: are we Yeah, we all agreed that you are the
Speaker 1: best at hitting the pause button when you need to
Speaker 1: hit the pause button to get the rid of the ads?
Speaker 1: Were you and you were?
Speaker 2: You were the time, despite despite being the youngest, I
Speaker 2: was definitely in chat. Dad was wildly inept the amount
Speaker 2: of things that we recorded with like the entire second
Speaker 2: act is gone or just just pure I don't know
Speaker 2: how he just recorded the ads instead like recording like
Speaker 2: pressing it twice or something at the wrong time. Really disappointing,
Speaker 2: just a bunch of ads. But yeah, that was definitely
Speaker 2: me and I really nailed it. But you know, I
Speaker 2: loved puppetry. I loved all of that. That really felt
Speaker 2: like movie making to me when I when I was young,
Speaker 2: just saw that magic. So many people working together with
Speaker 2: miniatures and puppets and stuff to just make one moment.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. It was like one moment when I
Speaker 2: was a little bit, We're working together to get that,
Speaker 2: to make magic. For me to look at that really
Speaker 2: felt like something special, and that's what got me into
Speaker 2: the industry itself. So I just fell in love with
Speaker 2: that massive crush on Jennifer Colin cant Colin, Conny.
Speaker 1: Conny, funny, love my wife. My wife can never say
Speaker 1: Billy Connolly, Billy. I think Connolly is one of those
Speaker 1: her names is, you know, can be a little bit
Speaker 1: tricky for this.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of yeah, what is her name?
Speaker 1: Connolly Connolly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the other one? Billy Colony.
Speaker 1: Colin's the same saying it's Billy Connolly and Jennifer Connolly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm never going to trust Billy Colony.
Speaker 1: Billy, he's good, he's very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big hands. But I also was so passionate about it.
Speaker 2: I think it's the first time that I swore in
Speaker 2: front of my family. There's a bit at the start
Speaker 2: where the stepmother says to Jennifer's dad, she treats me
Speaker 2: like a wicked step mother. Mother. No matter what I say,
Speaker 2: and I from memory, I stood on the couch. I
Speaker 2: couldn't take it anymore, and I said she's a bitch
Speaker 2: and he's a bastard and would have been seven. And
Speaker 2: my family was so shock. It was so shocked. So
Speaker 2: was I. I was so I didn't even know what happened.
Speaker 2: I just had to say it.
Speaker 1: Was on first viewing or was that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, no no? And you had been you'd been, You've
Speaker 1: been stewing on this, and I need to tell somebody
Speaker 1: somebody's feelings a bastard.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought my family would pick me up and
Speaker 2: parade me around and be like, yes, someone's had the
Speaker 2: courage to finally say it out loud, But no, No,
Speaker 2: I just got told of Yeah. And I was unaware
Speaker 2: of David Bowie's package until a recent viewing. It's there,
Speaker 2: It's there a lot. I don't know how I didn't.
Speaker 2: There's a there's a lot of it. It's just a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he deserves one. He deserves was a great man.
Speaker 1: Do you think there was there was help there or
Speaker 1: do you think was I mean if I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would have I would have requested
Speaker 2: some help. I don't want to get into it too deep.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but also I mean, yeah, I don't I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you have to examine the it's
Speaker 2: a pretty clean shape, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, there's standards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's not the sort of it's not like
Speaker 2: a Corinthian column. It's more like a Doric if you
Speaker 2: know your columns Ionic really maybe ionic. Yeah, but there's no,
Speaker 2: there's no, there's no scrolls at the top.
Speaker 1: It's worth a rewatch, at least in Google imaging your
Speaker 1: other of your next three favorite films. I write it down,
Speaker 1: but I can't understand my own writing. Now, Network, Network, Network,
Speaker 1: What a film we've covered it on this on this podcast.
Speaker 1: What like just a brilliant piece of writing, almost about
Speaker 1: perfect film. You know that, all the elements so good.
Speaker 2: I love, I love, I love all of it so much.
Speaker 2: Like I I initially got swept up in the Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I forgot that. Great there we got you.
Speaker 2: What's the speech? How it would be a speech? And
Speaker 2: open the window and.
Speaker 1: I'm out of hell. I'm not going to take it anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I and I was a in a
Speaker 2: room with a window, and I had the compulsion to
Speaker 2: go to the window, and if I had been brave enough,
Speaker 2: I would have done it. I was watching it my
Speaker 2: way up and I was like, man, I really want
Speaker 2: to yell it out the window.
Speaker 1: You like watching films and yelling ship. That's why your
Speaker 1: family is like to sit down. We're not pausing the
Speaker 1: movie while you go and yell at the window.
Speaker 2: Josh, this again every time? Yeah, but I you know
Speaker 2: that that initially caught me, but I've watched it so
Speaker 2: many times since. I love Fate that a way. I
Speaker 2: love Beatrice Strait, who plays the wife of I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's the main guy, but William Holdman.
Speaker 1: Yes, am I writing so somebody who got nominal for
Speaker 1: the Oscar for this and it was one of the
Speaker 1: shortest amount of times you'd be on on on camera.
Speaker 2: That's better straight, yeah, right, and incredible. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the facts are, but an incredible bit of acting,
Speaker 2: an incredible monologue. And she's sort of like not in
Speaker 2: the main shot a lot either, She's kind of like
Speaker 2: down the corridor, but she just nails. It's such a
Speaker 2: beautifulce of writing about him cheating on her. She says
Speaker 2: something about one last roar from a lion before he
Speaker 2: you know, it just gives up sort of thing. It
Speaker 2: was just so so great to be so affected by,
Speaker 2: you know, a middle aged woman, something I assume I
Speaker 2: am not much in common with, but like, it hit
Speaker 2: me so hard. She's so great. But I think my
Speaker 2: favorite part about it is the Ned Beatie speech, Yes
Speaker 2: becomes to see you've met with the forces of nature,
Speaker 2: mister Beale, and just everything about that, just how it's
Speaker 2: almost sort of in the dark. It's shot down a long, long,
Speaker 2: wide shot of a table, so much of the monologue
Speaker 2: is he's in the light at one end and then
Speaker 2: he goes into the dark when he starts lying. It's
Speaker 2: such a good monologue. And to think I might be
Speaker 2: remembering this wrong, that he learned it on a plane
Speaker 2: on the way there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think he was a late calling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might be wrong on that, but there was Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was an incredible performance. Is that one I think
Speaker 1: was he nominated? I think he might have been nominated
Speaker 1: on us almost just had that scene.
Speaker 2: It was Yeah, It's like I've seen that scene written
Speaker 2: on paper, and it is so hard to remember a
Speaker 2: scene like that where it's a lot of companies and
Speaker 2: business talk and to make it legible and to make
Speaker 2: you understand it. It's so hard and he just kecks
Speaker 2: it out of the park. It's so good. It's one
Speaker 2: of my favorite scenes ever. And I also love.
Speaker 1: Patty Joevsky and Sidney Lament is an absolute legend. Love
Speaker 1: Sidney Lament. But Peter Finch Aussie, Yes, got a point
Speaker 1: of out. Assume was the last film he made and
Speaker 1: one of the post humorously.
Speaker 2: Post humorously, I believe that's the.
Speaker 1: Exact pronunciation one day winning Oscars posthumously in Australia because
Speaker 1: he's legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Back for The Dark Knight, Yeah, yeah, such an incredible film.
Speaker 2: And also like just keeps being so relevant, like everything
Speaker 2: that they talk about in that scene. And also you've
Speaker 2: worked on network television as well. The Robert de Vaial character,
Speaker 2: the sort of slimy, business orientated network exec. Before I
Speaker 2: worked on a network show, I thought he was great
Speaker 2: and amazing, but afterwards I was like, wow, Okay, I've
Speaker 2: seen too many of you walking around the free So
Speaker 2: he's so good. They're all so good. It's a great
Speaker 2: it's one of the greatest films it is.
Speaker 1: It is so good and and what you say about
Speaker 1: it becoming more relevant. I've become really interested in this
Speaker 1: mainly through this podcast actually, because it makes me think
Speaker 1: about the films I'm watching more than just you know,
Speaker 1: taking them in and they be a little bit disposable
Speaker 1: if you don't get to have discussions about them, whether
Speaker 1: it's with mates at a pabor or the person that
Speaker 1: you've seen it with. But movies that movies stay alive.
Speaker 1: And it's not just because we're watching great performances and
Speaker 1: we're seeing younger versions of maybe actors who we know
Speaker 1: now as their older selves. But it's the topics I
Speaker 1: chat I had the pleasure of having a Chodle Edgy
Speaker 1: of four on last week, and we're chatting about children
Speaker 1: of men and how that there's a line that Michael
Speaker 1: Kaine delivers when there's a group of illegal immigrants that
Speaker 1: go passing a bus and he says, you know, they
Speaker 1: they do their best to make a new life for
Speaker 1: themselves here, and now our government are hunting them down
Speaker 1: like cockroaches. And you look at what's going on in
Speaker 1: the States and you kind of think, and then Citizen
Speaker 1: Kane and you're up network. These movie has become more relevant.
Speaker 1: Ice watch shut we did recently with the Cavlin You
Speaker 1: kind of go watching you guys watch shut now with
Speaker 1: the p Diddy and Epstein in the Shadows experience. And
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm trying to tell us something.
Speaker 1: I think Stanley Kurbrick was actually trying to point something out.
Speaker 1: We were ready. So I do think I love movies
Speaker 1: that kind of feel like they're still fluid and they
Speaker 1: can change with the time or the times catch up
Speaker 1: with the movie. And speaking of great movies, let's get
Speaker 1: in to this one right here. Every day he's round it. Okay, So, Josh,
Speaker 1: I've seen Toy Story one. You enjoy you enjoyed it
Speaker 1: very much a memory and if you dispute that, and
Speaker 1: I have it on tape, all of it. So don't
Speaker 1: go changing your finion now. But did you for nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine, starring of course, Tom Hanks and Ed al
Speaker 1: And Joan Cusack, joins, Kelsey Grammer, John Rickles is back well, Sean,
Speaker 1: John Ratzenberger, Andy Potts. The cart is amazing, directed by
Speaker 1: John Lassida. I'm not sure where he's at the moment
Speaker 1: with all the cancelation stuff written by a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of people. The thing about picks out films. Like the
Speaker 1: original story is by John Lassida, but Pete Doctor also
Speaker 1: was in on it, Ash Brannon, Andrew Stanton who did
Speaker 1: Funny Nemo, and about three or four others, so it's
Speaker 1: they do get everybody involved. But did you enjoy Toy
Speaker 1: Story two?
Speaker 2: Pete? I didn't, and then I did.
Speaker 1: Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, What the hell? What's going on here?
Speaker 2: Basically yes, I did, but like I'm just but I really,
Speaker 2: I really didn't for a bit, and I'm not. I've
Speaker 2: been thinking about it all night, Like I I probably watched.
Speaker 2: I started watching it when I was too tired. I
Speaker 2: think I've done a gig and I was. I was tired,
Speaker 2: and I was watching it and it just didn't hit
Speaker 2: like the other one, like Toy Story one hit. I'm
Speaker 2: going purely from me. I believe that as we've got
Speaker 2: the we've got a friend in you, and Andy's playing
Speaker 2: with Woody and all that nostalgia hits and looking at
Speaker 2: all the toys and all the you know, the little
Speaker 2: bits like the army guys got the little sort of
Speaker 2: extra bits of plastic sticking out from from the scene
Speaker 2: from the molding and all that sort of stuff I
Speaker 2: just didn't have. I think it opens with yea, so
Speaker 2: Toy Story Too opens with the video game. It turns
Speaker 2: into a video game sequence, but it's basically a buzz
Speaker 2: light Year sort of Star Wars esque homage, Star Treks
Speaker 2: sort of homage. And it goes through and I just
Speaker 2: didn't care. I was just like, Wow, what's going on?
Speaker 2: What's going on? And then it goes back to the
Speaker 2: gang in the room and what he was being annoying,
Speaker 2: and I just I just turned me right off. And
Speaker 2: it didn't get me until the yard sales started happening,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm going through a similar thing with
Speaker 2: my children now, trying to get rid of some of
Speaker 2: the far too many toys sport little buggers. Then then
Speaker 2: I stopped watching it, and I watched went back and
Speaker 2: I watched it this morning, and I got to say
Speaker 2: I got back on board for the yard sale. But
Speaker 2: when the song, the random song came up with the
Speaker 2: daughter playing with horses and and veits, I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm going to start crying.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask because when we turn about Toy
Speaker 1: Story one, a couple of years ago, you said you're
Speaker 1: an emotional wreck with you know, with young kids, and
Speaker 1: ye continued.
Speaker 2: Still continued, so the daughter's six now and just all that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It just I was like, okay, now
Speaker 2: you got me. But also I don't know, I think
Speaker 2: the film really ramps up from there, like it really
Speaker 2: turns into into a lot of action and there's a
Speaker 2: lot more at stake. I think. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just didn't like it for a start, but then then I.
Speaker 1: Did, Yeah, well I saw this in the cinemas and
Speaker 1: I I knew it was good. So I kind of
Speaker 1: I'll probably watched that a little bit differently than you did.
Speaker 1: I was I was comfortable that it was going to
Speaker 1: get to where it got to, and and I did.
Speaker 1: I did always think almost watching a back, it was
Speaker 1: better than I remember. For me, it was always Toy
Speaker 1: Story was amazing. Toy Story was a slight like an
Speaker 1: ever so slight dip, and and Toy Story three I
Speaker 1: think is the best because I thought they did what
Speaker 1: they do there is incredible. And we'll get to that
Speaker 1: maybe in a year's time. With you, Josh, I will
Speaker 1: point out that Toy Story two is one of the
Speaker 1: high Unrotten Tomatoes, one of the highest rating. In fact,
Speaker 1: that's officially second and the highest rating movies ever. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: it has a one hundred percent Rotten Tomato score based
Speaker 1: on one hundred and seventy two reviews. The only the
Speaker 1: only movie that does better is a movie that I've
Speaker 1: never heard of, Could Leave No Trace, which is at
Speaker 1: one hundred percent after two hundred and fifty three reviews,
Speaker 1: so I'll certainly be checking that movie be out. Toy
Speaker 1: Story one is also at one hundred percent, but curiously
Speaker 1: only from ninety six reviews, which is still incredible. And
Speaker 1: Toy Story three, somewhat surprisingly but they are wrapping it up,
Speaker 1: is ninety eight percent, which I think you know, is
Speaker 1: arguably the best of the three. I still haven't seen
Speaker 1: four because I don't know why they made another movie
Speaker 1: because I think the trilogy was perfect. I will see
Speaker 1: it one day. In fact, I might go to see
Speaker 1: it soon. Whilst I'm in the Toy Story space, I'm
Speaker 1: working with Colin Lane recent at the moment on a
Speaker 1: play called Pete on the Star Catcher coming to Brisbane soon.
Speaker 1: We'll talk that Toy Story and his favorite was Toy
Speaker 1: Story too. He just said it's the best. He thinks
Speaker 1: the best sequel ever made, So I guess you have
Speaker 1: the conversation about Godfather too and by Strikes Back and
Speaker 1: perhaps Toy Story two. But I really enjoy it. But
Speaker 1: the sequence you speak of when Jesse is talking about
Speaker 1: being disposed of, which is what you know is lurking
Speaker 1: in the in the back of wood. He his brain
Speaker 1: at that point because he's had his arm injury, where
Speaker 1: the Cottons kind of come loose and he starts, you know,
Speaker 1: thinking is easy disposable. And Jesse tells that story where
Speaker 1: and he has been loyal to his toys at this point,
Speaker 1: but will that time? Will that change? And I think
Speaker 1: it's it's the sea. It reminds me of the the
Speaker 1: sequence in Up. Have you seen Up? Yeah, the one
Speaker 1: of the opening sequences where the death of his wife,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh my god, this is I
Speaker 1: thought I was going to see a kids film, and
Speaker 1: this is like hitting hitting adult, adult parts of my
Speaker 1: my soul and my my emotions and my heart and
Speaker 1: that that felt a similar, beautiful, classic Pixar targeting at
Speaker 1: the heart strings.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And to see it when Jesse is under
Speaker 2: the beard and then she's covered in dust and then
Speaker 2: how long she's been under there, and then to realize
Speaker 2: the girl is basically fully an adult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd say, yeah, she looks for me maybe like
Speaker 1: early for me, it felt like early twenties kind of thing, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, really grown up. And then to be just
Speaker 2: dropped off and what I would call a very strange
Speaker 2: donations area.
Speaker 1: There's no system, there's no system.
Speaker 2: A truck with boxes, truck in the middle of the wilderness,
Speaker 2: there's no one running around, and the trucks open and
Speaker 2: there's this donation boxes just lurking around. There's no one.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Because it's prettier than having it in a city.
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only reason reason that's where the job off point.
Speaker 2: The back all around the back of a red Cross.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not because it does not look as
Speaker 2: but yeah, that that happened. I guess, I guess I
Speaker 2: just found. I don't know. I got. I was alienated
Speaker 2: by the space sequence at the start, and then every
Speaker 2: everyone's character was kind of annoying or being annoying, Like
Speaker 2: I love Wayne Knight so much, Yeah, but he is
Speaker 2: he's peak annoying.
Speaker 1: Some of the voices they bring in. In fact, the
Speaker 1: three voices they bring in and actors Wayne Knight, Kelsey
Speaker 1: Grammar and Joan Cuz all so distinctive, like there's no yes,
Speaker 1: there's no having to look at Google who's playing who's
Speaker 1: playing Sticky Peete here, Like that's Frasier, we know we
Speaker 1: know that voice, and that's Newman. Yeah, yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was jo slightly. We may never hear it slightly longer
Speaker 1: than the Fraser and Kelsey Grammar and wayn Night, but
Speaker 1: it's certainly there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she she had quite a harsh her initial voice.
Speaker 2: Character voice is very harsh for a while.
Speaker 1: I'm imagining it's based on like Calamity j Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess so, yeah.
Speaker 2: But I was I was just like, I don't know
Speaker 2: this is And I think that as well, combined with
Speaker 2: all the sort of Star Wars easter eggs. I mean,
Speaker 2: I love Star Wars obviously, but sometimes when when something
Speaker 2: is so easter egg heavy, I can I'm quite good
Speaker 2: at picking out sound effects, so I mean I probably
Speaker 2: missed a whole bunch, but there was you know, lasers,
Speaker 2: lightsabers coming up when doors are open, the door opening
Speaker 2: sound from Star Wars, So I was like, nah, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting on board because the doors sound the same.
Speaker 2: I know what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Mate, That's when you have to go, Josh, go to bed.
Speaker 1: You've had a gig, get some sleep, gets some nine eyes.
Speaker 2: Particularly Well, that's fine. You take it out of the movie.
Speaker 1: How do you responded after a bad gig? I take
Speaker 1: it out into a story too.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I think, isn't Kelsey Grammar isn't his
Speaker 2: voice incredible? Like he dances between the line of sounding
Speaker 2: so wise, that sort of Morgan Freeman quality of yeah,
Speaker 2: I should really listen to what you're saying and then
Speaker 2: turning into Sicho Bob. Yeah, just just with a slight
Speaker 2: change of infliction. It's so good.
Speaker 1: It's so good because you kind of, do you know,
Speaker 1: believe in Stinky Pete the prospector that he is the
Speaker 1: wise you know, sage and the turning point when he
Speaker 1: does turn is is really you know, quite powerful. And
Speaker 1: I think he's you know, as a villain in this story.
Speaker 1: I think is great because you kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: you think the villain is the toy collector and he
Speaker 1: is he is a villain. I guess in it, But
Speaker 1: I think the real villain, he's stinky peep. But like
Speaker 1: all great villains, you kind of you understand where he's
Speaker 1: coming from in a way. And this is one of
Speaker 1: the great thing about what his choice of does he
Speaker 1: does he stay or does he does he go back
Speaker 1: to Andy or does he stay with these toys. It's
Speaker 1: it's a dilemma Like I found myself thinking if I
Speaker 1: was a toy and would I go back to and
Speaker 1: Ian faced the prospect of maybe ending up on the
Speaker 1: side of the road and this dodgy you know, charity
Speaker 1: drop off or do I, yeah, do I live forever
Speaker 1: with these these you know now friends and you know
Speaker 1: in the Museum of top where people are going to
Speaker 1: be fascinating. He's just learnt about this this fame that
Speaker 1: he has, and he finds that a little bit tantalizing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's a really it's a beautiful it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful dilemma.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was one hundred percent I would
Speaker 2: totally go to Japan. I don't know if you've used
Speaker 2: the toilets over there, but they.
Speaker 1: Are incredible, so incredible how they would feel on what
Speaker 1: he would be Oh my god, waky.
Speaker 2: Clay squeaky plea. But I know I was I had
Speaker 2: the same I was trying to think through it as well,
Speaker 2: which is amazing for the film to be able to
Speaker 2: do to me, to put me in his shows. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right. It was so good.
Speaker 1: When Sticky Pete mentions the whole idea of the Spotnik stuff.
Speaker 1: But when those guys are popular, and then Spotnik happened
Speaker 1: and space toys became the thing. I haven't quick listened
Speaker 1: to that scene.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, wait, what about the gold mine and
Speaker 3: and the cute little gritters of the dynamite.
Speaker 2: There was a great show. I mean, why cancel it?
Speaker 1: Two words spot Nick. Once the astronauts went up, children
Speaker 1: only wanted to play with space toys. I know how
Speaker 1: that feels.
Speaker 2: But still my own show. I mean, look at all
Speaker 2: this stuff.
Speaker 1: Didn't you know why you're valuable? Graperty?
Speaker 2: I wish the guys could see this. Hey, howdy hay,
Speaker 2: that's me I'm on a yo yo.
Speaker 3: Ah, Hey, nice teeth and still a good looking guy.
Speaker 3: Oh it's a bag.
Speaker 1: Oh what are you?
Speaker 3: You pushed the hat and outcome outcome bubbles clever?
Speaker 1: Hey, what's this thing? Do I get it?
Speaker 2: There's a snake in my boot. Hey bulls, go along,
Speaker 2: go along? Whoa a record player? I haven't seen one
Speaker 2: of these.
Speaker 1: In ages, And I love that scene. I love you know,
Speaker 1: what are you finding out? Or the merchant? Apparently when
Speaker 1: they shot that or when they shot that, when I
Speaker 1: filmed that, that's what When they recorded the voice, they
Speaker 1: were actually showing Tom Hanks the merchandise and he was
Speaker 1: reacting those bits of merchandise. But I'm surprised when he
Speaker 1: mentions the space toys that he doesn't take unless I'm forgetting,
Speaker 1: unless I'm kind of miss something that he doesn't take
Speaker 1: it out. They don't draw a line between that and
Speaker 1: like more of a a bug bear when he when
Speaker 1: he sees it buzz light, he is actually a space
Speaker 1: toy that did actually kind of yeah, like a UK
Speaker 1: aged space toy. I may have missed something and it's
Speaker 1: probably there.
Speaker 2: There's one light. There's one. It's almost in a side
Speaker 2: and I think it's in the middle of I can't
Speaker 2: quite the pickaxe sort of exchange when it when when
Speaker 2: the two buzz light years are behind the grate looking through,
Speaker 2: I think he's throws something out. It's almost like a
Speaker 2: here we go sort of thing, which I think was
Speaker 2: really lovely a connection. Yeah, but yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 2: It was it was enough, I think, yeah, it was. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was great.
Speaker 1: I do love I do. I think you're right, like
Speaker 1: this sart of the film is you know you didn't
Speaker 1: like it. I thought it was fine. But like I said,
Speaker 1: I I kind of knew where it was going, so
Speaker 1: I had faith it was going to get there. But
Speaker 1: when they when what he finds himself with these toys
Speaker 1: and he has that dilemma with the Jesse moment, that's
Speaker 1: when it picks up. Yeah, yeah, and the toys getting there,
Speaker 1: the Witch's hats get across the road, and then they
Speaker 1: have their own their own thing at the department store
Speaker 1: with all the buzz light years and that there's a
Speaker 1: switch made, which is again, don beautiful. Let's have listened
Speaker 1: to that owl. Listen to me, Listen to me. You're
Speaker 1: not really a space ranger. You're on car. We're all right,
Speaker 1: dear hear.
Speaker 4: Bay Well, that's your hold, Hotail, the court martial Bay go.
Speaker 2: You don't realize what you're doing.
Speaker 1: And this is the buzz light your aisle.
Speaker 4: Back in nineteen ninety five, short Sighted retailers did not
Speaker 4: order enough dolls to meet demand.
Speaker 1: Heyy bun who goes there?
Speaker 3: Stop climbing around and get the car burst buzz I
Speaker 3: go out of DEFEATSRG you do, Come on, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you on the way.
Speaker 2: You've got the wrong buzz goof gout.
Speaker 1: Say where'd you get the cool belt?
Speaker 4: Burs well slotted pig there standard issue.
Speaker 1: There's a great joke there with the Barbie, which I
Speaker 1: should point out. Toy Story one wanted Barbie in Toy
Speaker 1: Story one, but Mattel said no, they didn't think that
Speaker 1: really it's going to be a hit, and so bo
Speaker 1: Pete became the love interest, I guess, and then so
Speaker 1: they were they were keen to get in on Toy
Speaker 1: Story two. But there's a line that tour Guide Barbie,
Speaker 1: which there wasn't a tour guy Barbie until this, and
Speaker 1: then Mattel released to Go Barbie after Toy Story Obviously
Speaker 1: it was maybe a wheeling and dealing and Barbie's Barbie's
Speaker 1: done okay cinematically since I should be Yeah, but there's
Speaker 1: a line. In ninety ninety five, short sighted retailers did
Speaker 1: not order doles to meet demand. That was a bit
Speaker 1: of a dig at. When I was putting Toy Story together,
Speaker 1: they could not find a toy company to do to
Speaker 1: make the toys. They all said no, and and they
Speaker 1: end up finding a smaller company out of Canada who said, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll do the we'll do the toys. And and now
Speaker 1: I assume they're probably you know, you know, the Google
Speaker 1: of Canada.
Speaker 2: A fine business decision by Mattel who made that I
Speaker 2: want to car.
Speaker 1: It's also the first time it's the first time he
Speaker 1: see in his represented toy story one. But he does
Speaker 1: make an appearance here and and it's you know it
Speaker 1: all it leads to the Vader a moment and but
Speaker 1: it is yeah, I do love it.
Speaker 2: Here, I have one give it.
Speaker 1: You killed my father.
Speaker 2: Your Oh well we're by the time we were and
Speaker 2: like I was loving the Star Wars stuff then like
Speaker 2: once we were and once I was on board, like
Speaker 2: I love the zurg intro was cool. I haven't been
Speaker 2: able to look through him. That was that was awesome.
Speaker 2: And then the Darth the Darth Vader stuff, who's my
Speaker 2: father sequence and the elevator shaft that was great because
Speaker 2: I thought that was really earned and it was that
Speaker 2: was really fun. And a great way to get the
Speaker 2: second Buzz out of there and still be sort of
Speaker 2: happy because they end up playing ball outside of so
Speaker 2: much fun.
Speaker 1: It is interesting, isn't it? When so when Buzz We're
Speaker 1: going Buzz too, Buzz two comes out. He he he
Speaker 1: acts like Buzz did when he when we first meet
Speaker 1: him in Toy Story one, like believing he is a
Speaker 1: space ranger. And then as he interacted the world, you
Speaker 1: see him change. I mean, yeah, and you see that,
Speaker 1: you see the change in Buzz even in this movie.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact is in the first movie where
Speaker 1: it's almost the roles have kind of change, where Buzz
Speaker 1: is the one preaching the value of being a toy
Speaker 1: and what he's kind of forgetting how important that is
Speaker 1: and what his role is. And I do like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did find it strange that that Buzz came
Speaker 2: to life, Like I found like to sort of philosophically
Speaker 2: the world of Toy Story, like when do toys gain autonomy?
Speaker 2: Or like because they run down the aisle and then
Speaker 2: that Buzz and the display case comes to life and
Speaker 2: starts running around. But there's this whole shell full of Buzzes,
Speaker 2: and I thought they were all going to wake up
Speaker 2: or do something they don't a buzz army a buzz army,
Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, this is gonna be great. But
Speaker 2: that didn't happen, and I was like, Okay, I guess
Speaker 2: the box hasn't opened yet. And then I thought about
Speaker 2: Stinky Pete. He's awake, but he jumps out of his
Speaker 2: own box. And then all the Barbies were having a
Speaker 2: party at nighttime. So if the like if the Barbie
Speaker 2: aisle was next to the buzz all the Barbies are
Speaker 2: having a party. And then I guess when Wayne Night
Speaker 2: comes back, they all jump back in their boxes. But
Speaker 2: then but the buzz is just stay in their boxes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, I remember this came up last time
Speaker 1: and we put it out for people.
Speaker 2: Maybe they came forward, got a lot of emails saying
Speaker 2: it's a movie, Mate, came.
Speaker 1: Much so much movie so late at night.
Speaker 2: Josh, when I was yelling at the TV.
Speaker 1: He's a bit and she's, yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: I do also love the yard sale sort of. But
Speaker 2: and this whole thing, like since we had really in
Speaker 2: deep talking philosophically about toys, like how do we say
Speaker 2: goodbye the toys? Like do we say goodbye the toys
Speaker 2: or do we just drop them? Because I'm in the
Speaker 2: midst of trying to get rid of toys out of
Speaker 2: our house and I'm not sure you and you've got
Speaker 2: kids as well. Some toys we hate so much they
Speaker 2: are going straight into dibbin, and some we are giving
Speaker 2: away without telling our kids. And I don't I feel
Speaker 2: very horrible saying that. But some of them are we're
Speaker 2: pretty sure they don't like. But a lot of them,
Speaker 2: we are the bulk of them. We're going through them
Speaker 2: and saying, do you want to go to let someone
Speaker 2: else enjoy this toy? We can say goodbye to it
Speaker 2: and let someone else have fun with it. Yeah, how
Speaker 2: do you do it with your kids?
Speaker 1: We have we have quite a bit of Lego in
Speaker 1: storage and I'm not sure if that's more of a
Speaker 1: you know, saving them for any potential grandkids or we'll
Speaker 1: sell them eventually. We just slowly got rid of the toys.
Speaker 1: You gotta know what toys the kids are emotionally attached to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once there's growing out of it. I mean my twenty
Speaker 1: nearly you know, twenty one year old still has like
Speaker 1: a puppy that he had, you know, like a toy
Speaker 1: like a little soft toy that's been a stird and
Speaker 1: it's like on his bed. Yeah, you know, and we've
Speaker 1: been on holidays before. He's taken it on holidays and
Speaker 1: he's unashamed that, you know, he's not he's only embarrassed.
Speaker 1: He's just like, yeah, it's wolf's mate.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think some toys deserve to be put down, though.
Speaker 2: Courla Calson gave us a toy which was a steering
Speaker 2: wheel that drives along the road and sang Twinkle Twinkle
Speaker 2: a little Star, but it was cat singing, so all
Speaker 2: the noise and all the indicators were cat's mewing. It's
Speaker 2: the worst things. I hated it. It was awful. She
Speaker 2: knew what she was doing. I don't know if she
Speaker 2: didn't hear it from someone else who hated her. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we really had to hide that for a long time.
Speaker 2: And then every now and then you'd bump it in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night, like trying to walk through
Speaker 2: the lounge, and you just hear this.
Speaker 1: Man, I do remember walking through the night and offsetting
Speaker 1: various audible toys. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the reason the toy story brand works is
Speaker 1: there is this emotional immediate emotional connection with pixel know,
Speaker 1: we know what a favorite toy feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: and how important and how loved the toys are. So
Speaker 1: then when they flip it and the it's told from
Speaker 1: the toys perspective, and you think, wow, they're looking back
Speaker 1: at us with the love that we had for them.
Speaker 1: It's it's very it's very powerful, you know. And then
Speaker 1: the thing about Stinky Pete is that it all kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense because you know, when he reveals himself
Speaker 1: to be a villain, you can understand he's reasoning him, going, no, like,
Speaker 1: you're my only chance. I'm going to make sure this happens.
Speaker 1: And at first he's he tries to do it reasonably.
Speaker 1: Who knows if he would he revealed himself as a
Speaker 1: villain if what he just had a to go to
Speaker 1: Tokyo perhaps not was is he is he always the villain?
Speaker 1: Or he's just like, no, I need I just need
Speaker 1: this to happen. So I'm going to act, you know,
Speaker 1: in a way that I wouldn't normally act to make
Speaker 1: this happen for not just myself, but for Jesse and
Speaker 1: for Bullseye. But the fact is it works because he's
Speaker 1: never been opened, like because nobody really has to play
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, you know, and it's beautiful at the
Speaker 1: end when when you know, he gets lumped with the Barbie.
Speaker 1: That's what he actually kind of gives him what he
Speaker 1: wants and what he wants, and which is a classic,
Speaker 1: you know, movie thing. It's like characters they want something,
Speaker 1: and as a as a writer, you're trying to not
Speaker 1: give them what they want. You're trying to give them
Speaker 1: what they need. And what he wants is to be
Speaker 1: played with, but it's actually not what he needs. He
Speaker 1: probably would have been happier to go with Woody and
Speaker 1: Jesse in Bullseye to Andy's place to be a new
Speaker 1: toy and to be you know, to be loved there.
Speaker 1: But now he start with it with Barbie, who apparently
Speaker 1: has an owner who likes to sabotage them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of felt bad for l though after
Speaker 2: the whole thing as well. Yeah, like he didn't really
Speaker 2: do anything wrong start doing Yeah, that's I apologize.
Speaker 1: But I think it's worth chatting about. Yeah, outside of yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's his biggest crime. Like they do paint this
Speaker 1: kind of almost a stereotype of what you think a
Speaker 1: toy collector might be you know, John Lasser I think
Speaker 1: has said it's it's based on him and maybe one
Speaker 1: or two of the writers, because I think if you
Speaker 1: toy collectors, you know, like it's kind of funny to
Speaker 1: a movie about toys and the love of toys, and
Speaker 1: then the toy collector he's seen is like this kind
Speaker 1: of oafish, kind of ghoul. I mean he did offer
Speaker 1: to pay, like he was happy to pay, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: fifty bucks, but the fact is that offer was rejected.
Speaker 1: He was not for sale. He broke into the till. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he he stole Woody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I fully take it back. I completely
Speaker 2: forgot about I've had a huge era. I'm so sorry
Speaker 2: because the mother also said, no, it's a family toy,
Speaker 2: which means that, you know, my kid's toy. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Aside from that though, like.
Speaker 1: I'm having to continue the thought.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really just out there recycling toys orbit
Speaker 2: for money and sort of taking advantage of people's nostalgia. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty bad. I take it back, So I must
Speaker 2: read the film. I was in a bad had a
Speaker 2: bad gag. We needed to talk about it. That's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad he came.
Speaker 2: I saw him again at the end though, because there
Speaker 2: was a part there's this fantastic escape from the plane
Speaker 2: sequence where Jesse and Wood he undo a hatch underneath
Speaker 2: the plane and sort of jump out onto Buzz and
Speaker 2: the horse who's called Bulls. I think it's so that's great,
Speaker 2: it's fantastic, But the hatch is still open and.
Speaker 3: Plane.
Speaker 1: I think there is a I think there is another movie,
Speaker 1: a very different movie that that those You may have
Speaker 1: a bloody on the South American football team on that
Speaker 1: plane because that plane, that plane went down in the Alps,
Speaker 1: and that that plane went down somewhere that is not safe.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you if Newman was on the plane with
Speaker 2: the South American football team, the first one, the first
Speaker 2: one they're coming into. Yeah, it's almost like at the
Speaker 2: start of another Pixar movie, you know when there's always frozen,
Speaker 2: like your parents are on this boat that sank, but
Speaker 2: your parents are on this plane.
Speaker 1: It's it's the pilots. You're having a little chat. Then
Speaker 1: it's like there's a red light here. This is a
Speaker 1: flat papen. The mask come to drop down. Yeah, it did, Ayes.
Speaker 1: Apparently ninety percent of the film that in the in
Speaker 1: post production and they're putting it together. They lost ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the film. Somebody had apparently pressed r m asterix,
Speaker 1: which deletes everything on the file. So they lost percent
Speaker 1: of the film. And the supervising tech director, who just
Speaker 1: had a baby recently and was doing a bit of
Speaker 1: work from home, took a copy of the film home
Speaker 1: with him to work on at home. And so they
Speaker 1: found this out and he basically got the copy of
Speaker 1: the file, wrapped it in a blanket and drove it
Speaker 1: back to the Pixar to save the film. They got
Speaker 1: most They got most of the film back.
Speaker 2: Terrifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, imagine that. Yeah, they did this in
Speaker 1: nine months, this whole film in ninety which just comesredible, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's unheard of for any film at alone an animation film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently it was. I mean I saw something
Speaker 2: about that as well. It's one of those. It was
Speaker 2: the hard drive and the command is like a one
Speaker 2: of them described it as a caterpillar eating concentric circles
Speaker 2: of data, working its way from the middle out and
Speaker 2: so they would have just been watching the hard drug
Speaker 2: get smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller, and been
Speaker 2: unable to stop it, which would have been very bad. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the whole thing that did you What was your a
Speaker 2: few favorite sort of adult sort of stuff for the
Speaker 2: adults watching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bit where they go into the sort
Speaker 2: of oh it's not a mystic portal. Why did I
Speaker 2: write that down? Something happens.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that bit. Yeah, something happens.
Speaker 2: A bit where something happens and I think there's some aliens,
Speaker 2: the Little three Aliens creatures, and they say it's a
Speaker 2: mystic portal. Something quite freaky happens, and mister potato heads
Speaker 2: back falls off and all the sort of accoutra. Mar
Speaker 2: falls at the back, but it looks like he's shutting himself.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes you were. You were on the edge last
Speaker 1: time you spoke about toy story one about the amount
Speaker 1: of mister potato Head jokes about was falling off. So
Speaker 1: you've come around.
Speaker 2: They cut it down, they cut it down. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was on board for well, that's a good pooh joke.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh yeah, it's another box ticked for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if Armada I had more shitting jokes and that
Speaker 2: would be top definitely top top one.
Speaker 1: I don't understand when you know I may have spoken
Speaker 1: about this some of this podcast before, I may have
Speaker 1: speak to you about it. But people who don't find
Speaker 1: like a fart funny, I just yeah, I struggle with
Speaker 1: there's there's there's an unconfronted trauma in their lives, true
Speaker 1: that they haven't dealt with.
Speaker 2: Who do you think you are? You're better than a fart? Yes, outrageous,
Speaker 2: Although I think I feel like I've come to the
Speaker 2: age where at New Year's we had some people around
Speaker 2: and weirdly, a guy I don't know, one of my
Speaker 2: wife's friends friends was telling a story and he just
Speaker 2: did a big fart, like in the middle of the room.
Speaker 2: I was like eleve o'clock in the morning, and he
Speaker 2: just said, oh, sorry, and just kept talking and no
Speaker 2: one reacted. I turned around and laughed. I had to.
Speaker 2: I had to say sorry, turn around, and I faced
Speaker 2: the other way, and I laughed and for so long
Speaker 2: that because I knew no one else was laughing, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't stop giggling. And I turned back around and
Speaker 2: said sorry, I turn around, and it laughed some more
Speaker 2: and turned back around, and then so then we all continued.
Speaker 2: But I just I it was the greatest one of
Speaker 2: the greatest days of my life. I was, I just
Speaker 2: don't understand.
Speaker 1: I was kind of refigured out it on stage recently.
Speaker 1: I was like, in this exact copy, like farts are funny,
Speaker 1: and yes, you don't find fats funny, there's something wrong
Speaker 1: with you. Because the fact is, there would have been
Speaker 1: a time. But now with science and we know why
Speaker 1: farts exist, so we can appreciate they're harmless. They're gonna
Speaker 1: smellfulttle while we can have a giggle and move on.
Speaker 1: There would have been a time. There would have been
Speaker 1: a time where if somebody, what the fuck's that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right right, my body just did.
Speaker 1: Something, I felt something, it made a noise and then
Speaker 1: it's an odor. Am I dying? Before science could explain it?
Speaker 1: It would have been a scary fucking thing. We should
Speaker 1: celebrate hard to be a celebration of science. How science
Speaker 1: can explain things.
Speaker 2: Yes, on board, I saw like a BBC documentary. It
Speaker 2: was around the time when cg I was sort of
Speaker 2: getting cheaper, so they could put like instead of just
Speaker 2: talking about Australopathecos, Robustis and early Man, they could have
Speaker 2: animations of them and they had this really good one,
Speaker 2: and everyone was so like the animation was so good
Speaker 2: this time it was Neanderthal. Before that might have been
Speaker 2: aspath Eendsos of Forget, but it was the prime.
Speaker 1: You could say that, but you can't say Connelly.
Speaker 2: It's no, I can't say. And they had the guy
Speaker 2: who was like on the African Savannah and he was
Speaker 2: like walking around a whole lot and then he stopped
Speaker 2: and he just took a big purse. Then he did
Speaker 2: a fart and then he giggled, and it was so funny.
Speaker 2: It was so relatable for a guy to be weighing
Speaker 2: out in the middle of a field to do a
Speaker 2: fart and go for them to choose that as a
Speaker 2: universal moment of mirth, it was I really loved it.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: I just I love it so much. Hey, before we
Speaker 1: before we before we wrap up you and if he's
Speaker 1: anything else, you want to talk about a toy story too? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I feel free, but I do want to mention you
Speaker 1: you have something coming up in the world of Disney.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is his first animated TV series.
Speaker 2: What's it's Pixar's first animated Yeah, yeah, embarrassing, but yes,
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell them.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell them, don't, please don't tell them.
Speaker 2: No, Well, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's really strange. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I still don't really understand why I was cast, but
Speaker 2: I'm in it. It's sort of a oh, you're very kind,
Speaker 2: but like and I'm not fishing for comments. It was
Speaker 2: just a very strange process. I got asked to do
Speaker 2: an audition for an animated thing, and I was just like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm obviously not getting this, but I'll give it a go.
Speaker 2: So and I'm a baseball coach, sorry baseball umpire, so
Speaker 2: I gave my best American accent. I listened to a
Speaker 2: different podcast to get better at that, and they said
Speaker 2: that's great, but don't do an accent, just do your
Speaker 2: normal voice. And I was like okay, and I recorded
Speaker 2: it on my iPhone And then this is such a
Speaker 2: long time ago. It's being on the shelf for a
Speaker 2: while during COVID. Actually, when I went able to do
Speaker 2: a show in Australia called Young Rock, and I had
Speaker 2: to be in quarant and so I did a zoom
Speaker 2: call with Pixar and and I couldn't believe that any
Speaker 2: of this was happening. I was like, you think you've
Speaker 2: heard my voice't why would you have a New Zealand
Speaker 2: baseball umpire. It doesn't make any sense. And so I'm
Speaker 2: having a zoom audition. We're meeting everybody, I'm doing a scene,
Speaker 2: and then I get a knock on the quarantine door
Speaker 2: because at that time you had to have nasal swabs
Speaker 2: at a certain time in the hotels. I don't remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I had to go get a nasal swap in
Speaker 2: the middle of my audition. So I said, please wait,
Speaker 2: and they saw me in the back and go to
Speaker 2: the door. Two nurses stick like swabs up my nose,
Speaker 2: have a swoop around, and I came back. I did
Speaker 2: the second half of my audition with my eyes running down,
Speaker 2: whereas like, but there's like stuff pouring out of my nose.
Speaker 2: But I was like, I just sort of pretended it
Speaker 2: wasn't happening, but it was clearly I was. They were
Speaker 2: finding it quite funny. I may got cast because I
Speaker 2: had a running nose, but also weirdly, in that audition,
Speaker 2: they were showing me mocked up footage and the character
Speaker 2: I don't know if you say the trailer, but it
Speaker 2: looks like me and I just I just cut. It
Speaker 2: just blew my mind, and then we started. They've just
Speaker 2: got tremendous resources and the time and money to really
Speaker 2: work the shows. Obviously they made this Toy Story two
Speaker 2: in nine months. But you know, I did about ten
Speaker 2: recording sessions and we'd re record, we'd re record, re record,
Speaker 2: and times they go, look, we've made this sequence, and
Speaker 2: that showed me this incredible pixa gorgeous sequence that was
Speaker 2: emotional and things are happening in it. And then they go, oh,
Speaker 2: but we're going to change it. They just like scrap
Speaker 2: it and just do something different, and I just the
Speaker 2: whole process was so strange, And the whole time, I'm like,
Speaker 2: why why have you got me? Why am I doing this?
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. Like it's not like there's
Speaker 2: no scenes where they go, oh, it's we've got a
Speaker 2: weird guy from New Zealand to be the coach. I'm
Speaker 2: just a coach in America who has a New Zealand accent.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't like I don't think I brought anything
Speaker 2: and I'm not fishing really but like wildly unique like
Speaker 2: to the character. I just don't know why you wouldn't
Speaker 2: get someone in America to play the part. And on
Speaker 2: the last day, I said, hey, why did you get me?
Speaker 2: How did this happen? And apparently they saw a project
Speaker 2: interview and they just liked it and they just went
Speaker 2: hunting for me. So they had that many people looking
Speaker 2: for casting out there and I somehow snaked through. And
Speaker 2: it still doesn't make any sense. I until I saw
Speaker 2: the trailer, I thought I was just I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: they'd like what I've done comedically or something, but they'll
Speaker 2: probably just dubbed me over because it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: And then I saw the trailer and they haven't dubbed
Speaker 2: me over. I mean it still hasn't come out yet
Speaker 2: at this time of the recording, so they still might
Speaker 2: dub me over. But so far.
Speaker 1: This pisses me off a little bit because you basically,
Speaker 1: in the Project New zeal And, you sat in the
Speaker 1: seat that I sit in the Australia and I've done
Speaker 1: that for ten years, two years, and then pissed off
Speaker 1: ten years Josh.
Speaker 2: Not once.
Speaker 1: Have some somebody even fixed us and we're casting that
Speaker 1: guy not once? Yeah, that's that's that is amazing. That's
Speaker 1: amazing that like that that's yeah. That yeah, you see
Speaker 1: approach interview and you and you know that's how it happens.
Speaker 2: That's yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess said it looks like the looks like you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, curly here, we've got the same nose. And
Speaker 2: weirdly like over the years, like there's been a Pixar
Speaker 2: filter on iPhones and people have like taken photos of
Speaker 2: me and gone, hey, look your Pexar character. And I've
Speaker 2: had to bite my tongue for so long because this
Speaker 2: is we were you know, the audition was in COVID.
Speaker 2: That's so long ago, it's five four or five years ago,
Speaker 2: and so I've had to keep it under my hat
Speaker 2: for so long that I just thought it's never going
Speaker 2: to happen. Yeah, but really strange, really strange.
Speaker 1: And it's called wind Lose, it's called Win or Lose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it's really cool. It's about a baseball team,
Speaker 2: and it's about sort of one day or I might
Speaker 2: be wrong, but.
Speaker 1: I will remind you when you try to talk about
Speaker 1: what your movie was about, you didn't get a few
Speaker 1: sentences in and go, I'm not very good at explaining
Speaker 1: what my moves are. So this is this is a
Speaker 1: second chance Josh.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well yeah, I'm self emotions not not my
Speaker 2: best whatever the word is, I'm going a go. But yeah, so,
Speaker 2: and I didn't have access to all the other scripts.
Speaker 2: But this an incident happens during a baseball game, and
Speaker 2: it affects everybody involved differently, So it's sort of like
Speaker 2: a ration mom Each episode goes back to how the
Speaker 2: incident affected this person that or the umpire or the
Speaker 2: kids involved, or their friends, or their mum or their dad.
Speaker 2: And so that's sort of what the the series is about.
Speaker 1: Is the incident. Is an incident almost really allowed to talents.
Speaker 1: What the incident is? Is it something that's kind of
Speaker 1: a bit super natural kind of thing, or is it
Speaker 1: something a bit is it kind of funny or is
Speaker 1: it something a bit kind of Oh, this is a
Speaker 1: bit interesting as far as like it's a bit more
Speaker 1: like like the slap for example.
Speaker 2: Like the slap. Yeah, no, I think it's it's fairly
Speaker 2: it's not out of this world. It's a it's just
Speaker 2: a very intense moment during a baseball game, right, and
Speaker 2: it's interpreted differently. Baby who was involved, and the two
Speaker 2: directors are incredible, wonderful, loveliest people that made me feel
Speaker 2: so wonderful all the time. It was so great because
Speaker 2: we would record and then then I go, can I
Speaker 2: try some stuff? And I would just waffle away and
Speaker 2: give them different options, which I'm sure they threw on
Speaker 2: the ground. It made me feel so warm and one
Speaker 2: for the whole time. It's just quite a diferent experience.
Speaker 2: Not the other directors that mean to me, but like
Speaker 2: other times when we're recording in New Zealand, you know,
Speaker 2: we don't have the budget to sort of ass around, Yes,
Speaker 2: we've got forty minutes, we're going in, go do the script,
Speaker 2: do some options if you can knock it out. It
Speaker 2: was a very different experience. So the whole story is
Speaker 2: based on their experiences from working at Pixar, where they
Speaker 2: would both going to a meeting and things will go
Speaker 2: down and they both leave and they both have completely
Speaker 2: different experiences of what happened. One of them be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that was a great meeting, and how long was like
Speaker 2: I think it was a really bad meeting. And they
Speaker 2: both have arguments of how the meeting should be viewed,
Speaker 2: and then they thought, oh we should we should make
Speaker 2: this a series.
Speaker 1: I think that's really fastic. I'm really into this idea.
Speaker 1: There's been a few things that have happened, you know,
Speaker 1: both in the news and the main kind of life,
Speaker 1: where I kind of go, we've walked away with two
Speaker 1: different versions of we're in the same meeting, Yes, exactly
Speaker 1: what you just said. And there's some stuff that's been
Speaker 1: in the news which I won't going to because they've
Speaker 1: got we've got a murky we're kind of coni versal.
Speaker 1: Things have happened and people have had these different ideas
Speaker 1: of what and yeah, as a consumer of the news,
Speaker 1: you have to kind of go or who do I
Speaker 1: believe and who do I don't believe? But it's like
Speaker 1: perhaps none of them or neither of them believe they're lying.
Speaker 1: They just think, yes, that's what happened to them, and
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's their truth, and that's their truth. I
Speaker 1: think it's a really fascinating area. Yeah, and I think I.
Speaker 2: Think they use different animation techniques or styles possibly animation
Speaker 2: directors for each viewpoint as well. So I think it's
Speaker 2: going to be I think it's going to be really great.
Speaker 1: Is it pitched at a slightly maybe slightly older audience,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe I think so.
Speaker 2: I think it's slightly older than Toy Story. It's like, ah,
Speaker 2: I don't really know. Maybe yeah, yeah, it's slightly older
Speaker 2: than to but I think I think it's gonna be
Speaker 2: interesting for everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well's and that's what picks out do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So well, one of the other things I just love
Speaker 1: about Toy Story. I'm sure we probably mentioned in the
Speaker 1: first the first one, but just a little you know,
Speaker 1: the use because the first thing Pixel will do is
Speaker 1: make sure that they have a story and you know,
Speaker 1: and and and we spoke about last time. They always
Speaker 1: they're the experts and like the obstacles and building the
Speaker 1: stakes of you know, and they do it really well.
Speaker 1: I won't go through all the little bits and pieces
Speaker 1: that they did like I did last time, but they
Speaker 1: do it really well. But then and then the ones
Speaker 1: that they've got that then they just go to work
Speaker 1: at the jokes and and and the references and and that,
Speaker 1: and some of us just on, some of us just
Speaker 1: on you know, like there's a the speaking spell stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, like the fact that Buzz is using speaking
Speaker 1: spell to to work out the number plate, the registration plate,
Speaker 1: you know, the etcher skits when they use that, you know,
Speaker 1: and then there's the Cheetos like land mines.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I just love the details that picks
Speaker 1: out put into their characters.
Speaker 2: That's so I did feel really crunchy things. There was
Speaker 2: a lot of times when when you know that someone
Speaker 2: would leave and then the toys would play in the
Speaker 2: cowboy group where there'd be a lot of styrofoam peanuts
Speaker 2: out right, and then and then and then one night
Speaker 2: would come back and they'd all jump back in the
Speaker 2: boxes and I was like, whew, are the peanuts.
Speaker 1: He wasn't very observant though, was it. I mean, you'd
Speaker 1: be asking more questions like why how does this keep happening?
Speaker 2: Wise, Yeah, wells buzzed by the great as opposed to
Speaker 2: the box I put them in. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: was just shouting at the screen about why there's so
Speaker 2: many peanuts everywhere? I woke up my kids last night,
Speaker 2: So that was another thing. So you know, it affects
Speaker 2: us differently.
Speaker 1: The one of the first actually, really I think a
Speaker 1: little way, a little way into this film for me,
Speaker 1: was the wheezy character of the penguin, which obviously then
Speaker 1: goes into the yard sale, but it's that idea and
Speaker 1: it's so beautiful that sets up this idea, you know,
Speaker 1: in what his mind, it's not just that he's had
Speaker 1: his arm wripped, but like now he's met this toy
Speaker 1: that has been discarded and left and his mum deliberately
Speaker 1: put him up there that basically just hiding him think
Speaker 1: and he thinking he's off to the store to get fixed.
Speaker 1: Then you have this idea that you know, he's collected
Speaker 1: to put into the yard sale, and then Woody injured,
Speaker 1: goes in to rescue him. Like it does. It does
Speaker 1: as much as what he is being annoying because he's
Speaker 1: looking for his hat, which you understand because like if
Speaker 1: you're a toy, that's the only accessory what he has
Speaker 1: from what I understand, like he doesn't have, you know,
Speaker 1: like a rope or a gun or about the cowboy
Speaker 1: little things. He basically only comes with his hat, like
Speaker 1: that would be extremely important to him. And he's kind
Speaker 1: of got this injury now and this is cotton, so
Speaker 1: he's you know, he doesn't see himself as perfect, and
Speaker 1: but this toy collector does. I think there are so
Speaker 1: many little elements that are small details that play really well.
Speaker 1: Even the Rex playing the video game to start, and
Speaker 1: there's a little joke because his arms are too small.
Speaker 1: He's looking at my ear, I can't do old, which
Speaker 1: is a funny joke, but it pays off because when
Speaker 1: he becomes obsessed about defeating So when they meet the
Speaker 1: other buzz light Year, Yeah, why does buzz light you
Speaker 1: go along with these other you know, he's a space ranger.
Speaker 1: Why does he go along with this pig and this
Speaker 1: you know, this slinky dog. Because he misunderstands. He thinks
Speaker 1: they're going off to defeat. So that's why he goes
Speaker 1: on this mission. So it's just things that come across
Speaker 1: as little jokes. You always seem to pay off.
Speaker 2: The potato hit my my bug beer. There's a great thing.
Speaker 2: There's a great payoff later because his wife's pecked a
Speaker 2: his angry eyes and in his back, and then he
Speaker 2: goes time for some angry eyes and he puts on
Speaker 2: a pair of shoes instead of angry eyes. I mean
Speaker 2: I laughed out loud.
Speaker 1: The bloopers at the end, I must say I laughed
Speaker 1: a light of the bloopers. Such such a lovely touch.
Speaker 1: Apparently the one with what he's sitting down is based
Speaker 1: on an actual blue be from I think The Money
Speaker 1: Pit with Tom Hanks. There's a scene of him like
Speaker 1: there's a hole in the floor and he's sitting in it.
Speaker 1: He couldn't quite get up so and he's just laughing,
Speaker 1: you know, laughing at it. It's all you know, a
Speaker 1: blue you know. So Yeah, I just thought that was
Speaker 1: so so nice. Little bugs laugh. A lot of bugs
Speaker 1: life references in there as well, but where they're like
Speaker 1: it's having a chat and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it pans out and it's you know, buzz through the garden.
Speaker 2: Kelsey Grammar farting in the box. I was like, Gramma's
Speaker 2: making the this is great, it is finally we're getting there.
Speaker 1: At the moment started, I did love again. We spoked
Speaker 1: about last night. But I love when they pull out
Speaker 1: the perspective and because we are dealing with them in
Speaker 1: their world. And then when they pull out and you
Speaker 1: just see Zer chasing bars across the road and this
Speaker 1: tiny little and he's almost like gliding across like he's
Speaker 1: on wheels, like he probably is, you know, and and yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's really clever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bit. I did a huge one
Speaker 2: ad on the whole thing, Like I loved Zurgen Buzz
Speaker 2: so much, so much. Did you hear about the DVD controversy.
Speaker 1: There's a fun up, wasn't there. Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently there's an Ultimate Toy Box DVD and a
Speaker 2: thousand copies of the by the way I got. Yes,
Speaker 2: there was a there was a glitz of like some
Speaker 2: of them, they said it was a glitch where that
Speaker 2: were at some point during the film, it would cut
Speaker 2: to a scene from High Fidelity.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, John Kuzack, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Cusack, and then they'd say the word. There's
Speaker 2: a scene where they say fuck multiple times, and then
Speaker 2: it would cut back to the film. And obviously parents
Speaker 2: are very upset, but they've managed to get away with
Speaker 2: it by saying it was just a pressing error. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever made a DVD, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't work like that. You have you put the file
Speaker 2: on the film. Yeah, another another that's edited into it.
Speaker 2: So someone I guess it's like when that scene in
Speaker 2: Lion King, we're like the leaves said six for a moment,
Speaker 2: like some insider.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like yeah, yeah, I do love that, I
Speaker 1: do love that. Yeah, that's it sounds like they went
Speaker 1: across the Pixil went across the tech. They lost ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the film roll out with Shipouse. It's so bad.
Speaker 2: What happened is today I deleted ninety percent of the
Speaker 2: work that we've been doing for the past.
Speaker 1: But oh man, we're the day on How to Stay
Speaker 1: Married where we lost a couple, you know, about half
Speaker 1: a day and then we were able to retreat. We
Speaker 1: lost we thought it lost a full day because somebody
Speaker 1: you know, didn't do something they were supposed to do cards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly right, And yeah, that that was that was a
Speaker 1: bit of a sick feeling, and that's you know that
Speaker 1: In the end, we got a lot of it back
Speaker 1: and we maybe had to shoot one more scene and
Speaker 1: it was fine, but ninety of the movie, you know,
Speaker 1: with you know, the money involved at that level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is incredible. One last fast fact and that is
Speaker 1: Bulls Eye was going to be played by Martin Short
Speaker 1: until they decided that they didn't really need bulls to
Speaker 1: talk at all, and that yeah, they just he should
Speaker 1: just be like a puppy that they that they love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, which is that I mean, it feels right,
Speaker 2: but also I love Martin Short.
Speaker 1: Yes he would you didn't go about he's doing okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's solving in buildings. He's fine, he's fine, mate. Always
Speaker 1: a pleasure catching up. I hope to see you, you
Speaker 1: know soon for whatever reasons it might be, but treading
Speaker 1: the boards on stage or high for Luton movies and yeah,
Speaker 1: well we'll hopefully see you soon.
Speaker 2: Mate. Oh you're very kind. And can I just say, Pete,
Speaker 2: after listening to three thousand of your episodes to work
Speaker 2: on my Australian accent, which you didn't care for. You
Speaker 2: always all of your gifts. Such a wonderful introduction and
Speaker 2: there's no hint of irony or any undercutting, which is
Speaker 2: so hard for a New Zealand or Australian comic to
Speaker 2: do because we exist in an industry where we just
Speaker 2: shoot on each other as part of the joke, and
Speaker 2: to deal with the fact that we can't men can't
Speaker 2: have emotions. It's so lovely and it's so well, it's
Speaker 2: obviously so well researched. It's not just some generic stuff.
Speaker 2: And I just think someone should say just how wonderful
Speaker 2: you are.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's that's very kind. That's very kind, Josh.
Speaker 1: When people have when when my guests have actually watched
Speaker 1: a movie and thought about, you know what they're here
Speaker 1: to do? You know, but I only have people on
Speaker 1: the show that I love and that I like and admire,
Speaker 1: So saying nice things he's very easily done.
Speaker 2: But it's not, Pete. It's so hard. Like when my
Speaker 2: wife gave birth, my friend said, here's some advice. I
Speaker 2: think write down some nice things to say to your wife.
Speaker 2: And I was like, what are you talking about? So
Speaker 2: I did not write down a bunch of nice things
Speaker 2: to say to my wife. But then thirty hours into
Speaker 2: the labor, I was I was like, I was repeating
Speaker 2: stuff so much, so much that my wife said, if
Speaker 2: you say I'm a strong woman one more time and
Speaker 2: I'll punch you in the face. So I'm just saying
Speaker 2: it's not that easy.
Speaker 1: Which will hurt because I'm a strong woman. I've had
Speaker 1: this stopped writing when I write cards to my parents
Speaker 1: for their birthdays and Christmas, whatever it might be, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for your love and support. Yeah, I've banned myself
Speaker 1: and writing that because it's like I need, yeah, I
Speaker 1: need to kind of. You know, it's funny when you
Speaker 1: cut out and things that you always go to. Yeah, really,
Speaker 1: there there are times when when i'm you know, and
Speaker 1: I must say the intro is early on in Yasney,
Speaker 1: where we're very much written and and I would just
Speaker 1: kind of read them and and I put a lot
Speaker 1: of effort into into them and as you go along,
Speaker 1: because there's there's quite a few things I need to
Speaker 1: prep for the show. I just thought, I just need
Speaker 1: to kind of find a place where I can find
Speaker 1: something that where it's a bit looser, and so I
Speaker 1: have my I have more bullet points. You know that
Speaker 1: I read it probably means that the interest are going
Speaker 1: longer than they used to go for. But no, everything
Speaker 1: is everything is genuine. And yeah, there are times where
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't use that word again because ive
Speaker 1: us it's somebody else and.
Speaker 2: We do a great job and we notice.
Speaker 1: So thank you, mate. I do apprecure you're very kind man,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to seeing you in Oza very soon.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I tried reasoning with you, Woody, but you'll
Speaker 2: keep forcing me to take extreme measures.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you turned on the TV last night,
Speaker 3: not Jesse.
Speaker 1: Look, we have an.
Speaker 2: Eternity to spend together in the museum. Let's not start
Speaker 2: off by pointing fingers, shall we you really are stinky Pete,
Speaker 2: aren't you?
Speaker 4: Presspector this isn't fair.
Speaker 2: Fair, I'll tell you it's not fair.
Speaker 4: Strending a lifetime on our Dimes store shelf watching every
Speaker 4: other toy v sold.
Speaker 2: Well, finally my waiting is Pete off and no hand
Speaker 2: me down. Cowboy Doll's gonna mass it up for me. Now.
Speaker 1: I could talk to that bloke all day and the
Speaker 1: next day and the day after that. Josh Thompson, New
Speaker 1: Zealand's Finest with Toy Story two, you'll have to return
Speaker 1: to do Toy Story three. Whether we get the Toy
Speaker 1: Story four, I don't know what do you think. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen Toy Story four, but I feel like we'll
Speaker 1: cut it off at the trilogy. We'll get Josh back
Speaker 1: Pixar's own Josh Thompson. Check out, win or lose. Looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing it. Love it, bloke, great man fun
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Speaker 1: Next week on the show, comedian Sam Peterson will be
Speaker 1: joining us. Sam he's probably best known for his podcast Confessions,
Speaker 1: which I did on the same day as we recorded
Speaker 1: this episode, so it's probably out by now. Sam is
Speaker 1: a great guy, fun guy, smart guy, much loved in
Speaker 1: the comedy community. He's been asking me to do Confessions
Speaker 1: for a long time, and yeah, I'm really happy today
Speaker 1: I got to do it. He's a really lovely bloke, Sam,
Speaker 1: and like I said, funny as well. Those two leave
Speaker 1: the combination lovely and funny. I like it. Next week
Speaker 1: on the show, though with Sam Peterson, we will be
Speaker 1: covering an absolute classic. It comes up from time and time.
Speaker 1: On this podcast, we are going back to the Oscar
Speaker 1: nominated role that made Anthony Hopkins a global name in
Speaker 1: the chilling depiction of Hannibal lecter, with of course Jody
Speaker 1: Foster also nagging the oscar for memory. That might be wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't she wouldn't she should have. It's a great
Speaker 1: performance Silence of the Lambs. Of course it's creepy, but
Speaker 1: it's undoubtedly a classic Sam Peterson Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 1: Next week and you ain't see nothing yet. And so
Speaker 1: we leave old Pete save Mansul, and to our friends
Speaker 1: of the radio audience, we've been a pleasant good name.