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Speaker 1: I read some research this week that separate beds can

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Speaker 2: But there's such a people get all worried that it means.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't like you. No, it's it's it's It

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Speaker 1: can be very sensible. The research says it is important

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Speaker 1: to communicate openly with your partner about why you are

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Speaker 1: choosing separate beds. Don't just you know, have them come

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Speaker 2: A symptom of other issues.

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Speaker 1: But the benefits of sleeping separately include reduced disturbance from

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Speaker 1: snoring and restless sleep or movement, customized environment. You can

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Speaker 1: set your ideal room temperature, You're not dealing with the

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Speaker 1: can also lead to better objective sleep quality and longer

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Speaker 3: These are probably affecting older couples more than younger couples.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean that you can snoring can

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Speaker 1: Killer of sleep at any age. You know people that

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's why it was so common in old movies

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Speaker 2: Well, was the were Carolyn Mike Brady the first, I.

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Speaker 3: Think to shack it up? I think they were. They

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Speaker 3: But extra bedrooms are apparently becoming more frequent by a request.

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Speaker 3: People are looking really for this.

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Speaker 2: So I like my own bathroom, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Extra bathrooms and now extra bedrooms as well. So I look,

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Speaker 1: What's the sleep issue in your house? And how do

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Speaker 2: Shared a room.

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Speaker 2: I guess they have.

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Speaker 2: They have a little you know, color.

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Speaker 3: Scheme, different color schemes.

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Speaker 1: I'll meet you in the okay, by the linen press.

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Speaker 2: Not in the linen press. No hang around tomorrow. I'm sorry, okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know you'd slept talking about tomorrow's tomorrow has

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Speaker 2: That think their lapdogs and instant sleeping on our bed.

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Speaker 3: And they both snore, but they're a little hard to

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Claremont. Michael, Good morning, morning.

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Speaker 3: Michael, good well, well are you well rested? Oh he's gone.

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Speaker 3: Oh Michael, speak closer to the phone.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm still I'm still awake. I haven't been to

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Speaker 2: So you're sleeping better since you got divorced.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Michael, Michael Karen in one room.

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Speaker 6: Eventually you said, oh, yeah, you just you just wriggled

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Speaker 6: happening here? But but now it's it's menopause is just horrendous.

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Speaker 1: You got that the doner's on the well, you're eating

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Speaker 6: I mean, what's no you have separate rooms?

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Speaker 2: What if you don't have that sense? Thank you, Karen, thank.

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Speaker 3: You so much that it would be the couch for me.

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Speaker 3: We don't have a spare room.

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Speaker 3: I can't put the kids in together that I've got

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Speaker 2: And I think we'll we're going to talk to a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to We're going to get hold of it.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go to the top. We're going to

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Speaker 2: go to an expert.

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Speaker 1: As we Apparently you're not putting much store in what

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Speaker 3: No, no, let's let's hear from someone who actually knows

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Speaker 3: what they're talking about. Qualified went to university. Well I

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Speaker 2: I know your pain, Anna, I really do, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Sarah, Speaking of doners, Sarah is on the on

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Speaker 4: Good morning guys.

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Speaker 7: Hello, I'm a bit of a riggler.

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Speaker 4: I have a bad bet and I'm talking and turning

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Speaker 4: like to all rubbed up. So we just decided we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we.

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Speaker 4: Both speak a bed and we got two doners.

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Speaker 2: Oh so you went for the king size and your

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Speaker 4: And two double donners to get the cool size in right?

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Speaker 1: I believe who hogged the covers has ruined many a

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Speaker 1: a very I think this is probably the best advice

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Speaker 3: How did you go going into snooze explaining that to

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Speaker 4: We did have a bit of a giggle because we

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, we have to grey.

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Speaker 4: So now we've got so many bloodys in the house.

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Speaker 1: Do you have matching diner covers though, so it looks

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, you've got to get to strike find the way.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Sarah, that's that's genius. Thank you so much, Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we're going to the top. We have

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Speaker 3: Hello morning, Melissa, doctor.

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Speaker 7: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Melissa is a sleep expert from Sleep Matters Insomnia Solutions.

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Speaker 1: What are the most common sleep issues you do see

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Speaker 7: Sleep? Sleep issues are really common and they come in

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Speaker 7: all sorts of different shapes and sizes, but probably a

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Speaker 7: the serpences, that's what we call it. So this could

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Speaker 7: be shift workers, PIPO workers, It could be people that

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Speaker 3: Have you heard of this thing about people having separate

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Speaker 7: Well, we certainly do see it, and I think as

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Speaker 7: awareness about sleep and it's importance, and people are prioritizing

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Speaker 7: And certainly because sleep can have such a big impact

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Speaker 7: on relationships. You know, we feel grumpy when we're not

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Speaker 7: well slept. We can feel resempful if there's one partner

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Speaker 7: really having to consider. Is a separate bed or a

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Speaker 7: separate doner or a separate bedroom even the right solution

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Speaker 1: So, where would you advise people, because I mean it

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Speaker 1: go to look for their solutions? Do they come to

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Speaker 7: Oh look, there's thankfully there's lots of great information. So

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Speaker 7: for general facts about sleep, I definitely recommended this Sleep

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Speaker 7: Health Foundation, hundreds of evidence based, expert written fact sheets.

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Speaker 7: In terms of treatment, absolutely yeah, sleep matters. You know what,

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Speaker 7: We're dealing with poor sleepers and sleep disorders every day.

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Speaker 7: But of course people's GP.

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Speaker 1: Okay, really important to go on this, but don't sort

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Speaker 1: of laugh it off. It can be there are things

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Speaker 1: that can be done fixed. Doctor Melissay, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 7: Absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 2: See thank you for the Health Foundation. There's your starting

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Speaker 2: point

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Speaker 3: Absolutely on the lines, so there's some help for sleeping