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Speaker 1: With the dream of winning an Olympic gold medal, Jakara

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Speaker 1: Anthony decided as a teenager that she would ski full time.

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Speaker 1: By twenty twenty two, she recorded the most successful season

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Speaker 1: by an Australian winter sports athlete in history in the

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Speaker 1: moguls at the twenty twenty two Olympic Games in Beijing.

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Speaker 1: Jakara won every round of the competition to become just

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Speaker 1: Australia's six ever winter gold medalists and the first since

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Speaker 1: Lydia Lassla in twenty ten. At the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: to twenty four World Cup season, she won an incredible

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Speaker 1: fourteen World Cup events, which is the most ever by

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Speaker 2: A single season.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely loved hearing more about the way Jakara prepares

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Speaker 1: to perform. For her, it's not about the podiums and

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Speaker 1: for her, but for women and the sport as a whole.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did. Jakara,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Female Athlete Project.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Super exciting to be here. I think we've been talking

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Speaker 4: about this for a while now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So I first met you at the FIFA

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Speaker 1: Women's World Cup. It was quite cool. I was sitting

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Speaker 1: I've been a fan from Afar from a long time,

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Speaker 1: so it's been cool to see you a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited that we've lined this one up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, back at you.

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Speaker 4: See you guys at the World Cup. That was super special.

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Speaker 4: Made it a really fun night. It was very, very fun.

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Speaker 1: And so you're back up, Well you're not really home,

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Speaker 2: I've saw you on.

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Speaker 1: The Channel nine show on Wide World of Sports on

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Speaker 1: the weekend, so we were like, while you're here, let's

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Speaker 1: Australian soil is close enough for me. It's so good

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Speaker 1: being home. We were on the road for about four.

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Speaker 3: Months, I think. Yeah, we came home for one week.

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Speaker 4: I landed like ninth dpm Christmas Day and had a

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Speaker 4: week so right, Yeah, so I've literally this year slept

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Speaker 2: Now, it's not a lot, is it.

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Speaker 3: No, So I'll take Sydney.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, very nice. What was Christmas Day?

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Speaker 1: Like? Did you do presents when you landed? Well, by

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we got a Christmas Turkey meal on

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Speaker 4: So a little interesting experience, very nice, something new.

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Speaker 1: Because how does it work season wise in the lead

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Speaker 3: So this season it ran a little longer.

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Speaker 4: We had four locations before Christmas with seven starts, and

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Speaker 3: Okay, in cold Well, you could, but I think it's a.

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Speaker 1: Recipe for success. You don't go fourteen from sixteen. If

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Speaker 1: Jakara as a little kid and describe what she was like.

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Speaker 3: I was a pretty wild little kid.

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Speaker 4: I looked very rogue half the time and pretty sure.

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Speaker 4: My school back home was really good, and they were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how does a ten year old with ten eleven

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Speaker 4: try every sport. So I did alpine, ski, across, Moguls,

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Speaker 1: That's really cool. I want to get into that and

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Speaker 1: Who knows you picked Moguls? Can you explain for people

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so Moguls is all those bumps in the snow

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Speaker 4: So there's a one section of moguls and then we

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Speaker 4: So sixty percent of our score comes from how we're

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Speaker 4: get me wrong, but it was just definitely not as

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Speaker 4: exacerbated as I thought it was going to be, which

445
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,160
Speaker 4: surprised me as well.

446
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Speaker 2: It's quite an interesting concept.

447
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 1: I've tried to Melissa Woo the Diver before on the

448
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,959
Speaker 1: podcast about how they plan the dives that they're going

449
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 1: to do in terms of difficulty as they kind of

450
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,960
Speaker 1: go throughout the process. Is that something with your jumps

451
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 1: that you plan well in advance or is it something

452
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: that you change throughout competition based on where you're sitting.

453
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 4: I don't tend to change my jumps too much throughout

454
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 4: the competition. I've been sticking with the cork seven to

455
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,959
Speaker 4: twenty meute on the top air, So cork means it's

456
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 4: an off hours. Yeah, so the cork means you're spinning

457
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 4: off axis, so like on your side, Yeah, seven twenty

458
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 4: means it's like seven hundred and twenty degrees, so two

459
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 4: full rotations. And the mute is the way I'm grabbing

460
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 4: my skis, so I'm crossing them over and grabbing one.

461
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Speaker 4: So at the time that I was the only girl

462
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Speaker 4: to be competing at that season, that no girl had

463
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,360
Speaker 4: competed on World Cup at that time. So we came

464
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Speaker 4: into that season and no one really knew I was

465
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Speaker 4: capable of it, and came out and started competing it

466
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 4: and my jump scores I was nearly the top had

467
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 4: the top jump scores for every event in the lead

468
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 4: up to the Olympics and at the Olympics, So that

469
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 4: was really cool to be doing and pushing the sport

470
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Speaker 4: in that area and on the world stage especially. So, yeah,

471
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Speaker 4: I do that jump and then on the bottom ere

472
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Speaker 4: I stick to a back mute, so that's just a

473
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Speaker 4: backflip with that same grab I do on the top

474
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Speaker 4: end just.

475
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Speaker 2: Has a casual backflip face.

476
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Speaker 3: It's a bit easier than the coalk.

477
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Speaker 2: Okay, good to know.

478
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Speaker 1: How did you go from this young teenager who was

479
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Speaker 1: filled with a lot of fear to be someone who

480
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Speaker 1: was really pushing the boundaries of what women had done

481
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Speaker 1: before in this sport.

482
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: That was really it was a big journey.

483
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 4: I've always had really big goals in the sport, and

484
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 4: so as my coach, and we've been on the same

485
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 4: page about wanting to push it kind of striving for

486
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: excellence and mastery and everything we do and having such

487
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 4: strong jumping fundamentals allowed me to go away and learn

488
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 4: how to do these new tricks. And because I'd gotten

489
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 4: so strong and fit and was fueling properly, that was

490
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 4: a big game changer for me too, you know my nutrition.

491
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 4: I was able to go and do huge numbers on

492
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Speaker 4: the We call it a water ramp, so it's a

493
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Speaker 4: plastic brest talk to us about the water ramp.

494
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Speaker 3: So that's key with the learning the new juts.

495
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: It's a plastic ramp into a pool at the Jeffyankee

496
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Speaker 4: Training Center in Brisbane, although that only opened in twenty twenty,

497
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Speaker 4: and prior to that it was in Melbourne, into a dam.

498
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Speaker 3: That's where I grew up. Yeah, not so.

499
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Speaker 4: Glamorous, Not so glamorous. The one in Brisbane is epic.

500
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Speaker 4: It's one of the best in the world. I think, Wow,

501
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 4: I haven't seen many others, but I've seen a lot

502
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Speaker 4: of footage and stuff from them, and it's up there.

503
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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay.

504
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we practice our tricks into the water first

505
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 4: and that's how we go learn them.

506
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 3: So the consequences are a lot lower.

507
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 4: Still hurts if you get it wrong on water, but

508
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 4: you're not gonna the risk of actual injury is much

509
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: much lower, so and you can do bigger numbers because

510
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 4: it's a bit less impact on your body. Yeah, so

511
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 4: that's big game changer in learning new tricks and then

512
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 4: taking them to snow. You still got to make that

513
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 4: leap when you take it to snow, which is still

514
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 4: just as scary, you know, putting a new trick on snows.

515
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it ever gets less scary. But yeah,

516
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 4: that's kind of the process of it. And how did

517
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 4: it work for you in Beijing? Was it as each run.

518
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Speaker 1: Like you were just before me each run and did

519
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: you build confidence or was it like okay, that run's done,

520
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: tick to the box onto the next.

521
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 4: Definitely, just trying to stay present in Beijing that was

522
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 4: the big key for me. So each run, knowing what

523
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Speaker 4: it was that I need to do. We compete it

524
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 4: over a couple of days, which is not normal for us,

525
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 4: and the course condition changes, well, it changes every run

526
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 4: because the snow moves as people are skiing it, so

527
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: you've got to be really thinking on your feet every run, and.

528
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 3: Lost my train of thought over.

529
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: A couple of days. The fact that the conditions were changing.

530
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: What was like, were you just ticking boxes as you

531
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: finished each got you?

532
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? So Beijing was about staying present.

533
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 4: So as really easy, especially for me, but so many

534
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 4: people out there to kind of get ahead of yourself

535
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 4: and start thinking about what the future could be. You know,

536
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: am I going to win? What's going to happen if

537
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 4: I win? How cool is that going to be? Or

538
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 4: what I've done in the past, Like, you know, maybe

539
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 4: I made a mistake on the ski out, which is

540
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: when you go from the jump back into the moguls.

541
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Speaker 4: Maybe I messed that up last time and kind of

542
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 4: beating yourself up for that, which I'm a sucker for.

543
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 4: So rather than doing that, we'd spend a lot of

544
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: work in the lead up on learning how to just

545
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: stay in the moment, stay present.

546
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: So what is it that I'm going to do next run?

547
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 4: What can I do this run to give myself the

548
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 4: chance to do what I need to do?

549
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Speaker 3: Like, Okay, I need to think about this on the

550
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: top air.

551
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: Once I'm in the middle, I'm going to think about this,

552
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: but right in that moment and when I'm not skiing,

553
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 4: it's just about catching my thoughts that I'm thinking about

554
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 4: what's going to happen when I win, which happened about

555
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 4: five hundred times at least that day. So difficult, and

556
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: just bring it back to the moment, like, okay, right now,

557
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: I just need to chill and focus on what I

558
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 4: can do.

559
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 3: But so hard in the moment.

560
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely so standing.

561
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Speaker 1: Can you talk to us, like talk to us as

562
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: if you're standing about to do your final run, knowing

563
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: that the gold medal is like within reach.

564
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a tough one on that run.

565
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 4: Like I said up the top, just trying to stay present,

566
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 4: but so hard. Before the run, I was actually up

567
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: there with my coach Kate, and we were just looking

568
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 4: at the stars, like just trying to zone out, like

569
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: not really think about it. I tend not to try

570
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 4: and focus too much on my run until i'm like

571
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: one or two competitors out because if I switch on

572
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: for too long, my brain just goes to mush. As

573
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 4: I say, it just stops working basically. So when I'm

574
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: in the gate, I'm kind of running through my head

575
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 4: what it is that I need to do on each

576
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 4: section of the course. It changes course to course, some

577
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: of them will be trickier in certain spots than others,

578
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: and then a few technical prompts I need to have.

579
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: You know, maybe I'm struggling with my top air a

580
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 4: little more there, so I need to think about a

581
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: certain thing there. Like I know, in Beijing, for instance,

582
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: the entry the bumps into the bottom air were really difficult,

583
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 4: so I knew I had to slow down before it

584
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 4: so that I could get through them properly. Things like

585
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: that I'm just going over in my head, so I

586
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 4: remember to kind of think of them when I get

587
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 4: in there, because you kind of just go to a

588
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: bit of muscle memory once you're in the run, and

589
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 4: then have those prompts there, and then right before I go,

590
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to stay as calm as possible, and

591
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: I just remind myself like you've got this and that's

592
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 4: it we're going.

593
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: When you're in the run.

594
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Speaker 1: You talked about muscle memory Bears and I did a

595
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Speaker 1: video that I didn't end up posting, and I think

596
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: it was of one of your runs. We did a

597
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Speaker 1: little green screen and what Bears thought would be going

598
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: through your mind and pretty much like ou ou ouch

599
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: ouch jump, what is that?

600
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: Not that?

601
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: Thankfully, i'd been a pain if that was the case,

602
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: so as I'm going down the run, and it's those

603
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: same things that were happening at the top, Like we've

604
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 4: done so much work prior to that, and so many

605
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 4: repetitions of the skiing that that's kind of just taking

606
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 4: care of itself with that muscle memory, and then it's

607
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: those whatever I need to think specifically for that course

608
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: at the time is what's running through my head. So

609
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 4: I don't know, like some courses I really need to

610
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 4: think of making sure I'm getting on my outside ski

611
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: or some of them, I need to make sure that

612
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 4: I'm really hitting the mogo with the tip of my

613
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 4: ski or coming into the jump.

614
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: But I know I need to take it right or left.

615
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: I know I need to come in faster than I

616
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: think I want to or slower. There's all sorts of things,

617
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: and it's really coarse dependent, but there's probably about a

618
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: million things running through my head. Yeah, thankfully, ouch ouch

619
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Speaker 4: ouch is not.

620
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Speaker 2: What It's very novious from bears.

621
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Speaker 3: I like I appreciated that.

622
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Now do you jumps across the line? Did you know

623
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: already that you were an Olympic gold medalist in that moment?

624
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: At that moment, I knew that I'd done the run

625
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 4: that I'd gone there to do. I was really proud

626
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 4: of what I'd achieved, what we had achieved, you know,

627
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 4: it's a fair team effort. Couldn't have got to that

628
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: point with on my own, so I was super proud.

629
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: I was like, this is what I came here to do.

630
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: I've shown the world what I'm capable of. I've put

631
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 4: in the work.

632
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: That's the outcome, and I was so happy with that.

633
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: I believe that that was enough to take the top spot,

634
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: but I would have been happy if it wasn't. And

635
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: if anyone had have done a run better than that,

636
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 4: then they deserve that top spot, like hands down. So

637
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 4: it was a very special feeling to be that content

638
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: before you know the result. It doesn't happen all the time,

639
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 4: so yeah, that made it even more special.

640
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: And I read that something about your response of when

641
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: you had won the gold medal, it was almost like

642
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: that was the plan all along. Yeah, well we go,

643
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: we spend the whole four years, we're aiming for that

644
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: gold medal. You know, at training and stuff, that's not

645
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: the primary thought. You know, at the end of the day,

646
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: I can't control the result, unfortunately, so I'm just out there.

647
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: We've got technical stuff with the skiing that I want

648
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: to achieve and the jumping that's bigger than results, you know,

649
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: that's kind of stuff that I want to do that

650
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: would be a bit of a legacy in the sport.

651
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 3: But that's the goal at training.

652
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 4: But in the back of your mind, you are planning

653
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: towards this Olympic gold medal, you know, that whole four

654
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: years or my whole career up until that point, really so,

655
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 4: and you kind of don't have time to think about, oh,

656
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: what if it goes wrong? What if I don't achieve that?

657
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: You know, that's one of those uncontrollables at the end

658
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: of the day. So you kind of just go into

659
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: it thinking that that's what you're capable of, and that's

660
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: what you're going to strive for and hopefully the plan

661
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 4: all comes together. But it's once every four years, so

662
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: many things have to come together on the day, like

663
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 4: thirty seconds on one day every four years. Like, when

664
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: you put it like that, it's pretty ridiculous.

665
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: It is ridiculous.

666
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: When I was competing in rugby seven's at Rio and

667
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: we won that gold medal, it was to me the

668
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: feeling was relief, because it was something I'd wanted since

669
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: I was a seven year old kid when I watched

670
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: Kathy Freeman. Did you have that sense of relief or

671
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: was it more just we've done it, tick the box

672
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: onto the next.

673
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: A little bit of all of that.

674
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a lot of pride in the fact of

675
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 4: what we've been able to achieve and do it at

676
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: such a high level and put down a run that

677
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 4: I was really proud of. You know, you can win

678
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: with a runs depending on the event, that's maybe not

679
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: your best skiing. But I think I really went out

680
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: there and did what I want to do, what I

681
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: wanted to show the world. But yeah, there definitely was

682
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: a bit of that relief, like, Okay, we've really done it,

683
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: Like everything that we've been working for is paid off

684
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: and we've come and achieved what we set out to do.

685
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: Earlier, when you talked about Younger Jakara, that was filled

686
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: with a lot of fear. You also talked about the

687
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: pressure from external sources.

688
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: Can you touch on that.

689
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess the pressures and interesting one, you know,

690
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: and pressure is a bit of a perception. I think

691
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: pressure is kind of based off a lot of what well,

692
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: for me, anyway what I think other people are thinking

693
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: of me, which is totally not true. So one of

694
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: the biggest instances is like my coaches, Like like, for instance,

695
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 4: I'll think that my coach Pete is thinking something and

696
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my gosh, that's so much pressure, and

697
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 4: I'll kind of let it start breaking me down. And

698
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: then when I finally do tell him, he's like, when

699
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: have I ever said that to you? Or he's like,

700
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: I don't think that about you. So for me, I

701
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: think pressure is definitely just that, like what do you

702
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: call it? It just comes from It's still from me,

703
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: I guess, even though I feel like it's coming from

704
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 4: external sources.

705
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: It's kind of like what do you let in?

706
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: Also, and prior to the season you've just had, how

707
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: do you feel like, has it been something hard to manage?

708
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: Like being an Olympic gold medalist and starting to perform

709
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: in crystal globes, to feel like there's people around you

710
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: who start to expect that level of success from you, It's.

711
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: An interesting one.

712
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: After the Olympics, you know, everything in that lead up

713
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: was just aimed towards that, and you finally achieve it

714
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: and you never give a second thought to what happens

715
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: after in the lead up. So you know, that was

716
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: our first gold medal in twelve years in winter sport,

717
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: so it had been a little while. So everything that

718
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: came after that really cool. I was receiving a lot

719
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: more support, a lot more sponsorship opportunity, a lot more

720
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: media exposure. I got to meet some really cool people,

721
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: share my story hopefully inspire some people, and I got

722
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: to see the impact that my performance at the Olympics

723
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: had on people back home, which was one of the

724
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: coolest parts. But with that, it is a lot more responsibility.

725
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: It does take a lot more time. I'm already training

726
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 4: so much to try and stay where I am that

727
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: it took me a long period of time to learn

728
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: to juggle all those different things and still do what

729
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: I needed to do to keep me happy, keep me healthy,

730
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: keep me loving the sport. So there was a pretty

731
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 4: rocky eighteen months after those Olympics. You know, I still

732
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: had a great season the next season one multiple events,

733
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: took home the Crystal Globe in the moguls, but it

734
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 4: was a really tough season for me. You know, I

735
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: wasn't quite enjoying it like I had been in the past,

736
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: and this prior to this season where I've broken the

737
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: records and stuff, it was all about kind of trying

738
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: to get to a spot where I could really enjoy

739
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: the sport again and you know, get back to why

740
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: I started doing it as a kid, which.

741
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: I've heard that's a pretty common experience.

742
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: Among a lot of Olympians and Olympic gold medalists. You know,

743
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: a few people told me that was probably going to happen,

744
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: but I didn't really believe them until I was in

745
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: the middle of it and then had.

746
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: To dig myself out of a bit of a hole.

747
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a lot of support along the way,

748
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: which has been really good.

749
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: So prior to this season, the record for the most

750
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: mogul wins was eleven, set by American legend Hannah Khanne

751
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: Hanakhnee Hanakanee.

752
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, tears amazing.

753
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: So that was back in the twenty eleven twelve season

754
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: that she said that record, and You've now come in

755
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: and smashed it.

756
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: How did it feel to take a record like that?

757
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: It was really special. So Hannah, I absolutely idolized her

758
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: growing up. She was someone that I was always looking

759
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: to for like technical inspiration and just how hard she trained,

760
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 4: how strong, she was how she approached the sport. So

761
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: to beat a record that she set was something I

762
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 4: never thought I would ever achieve.

763
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: And it's the first record I think I've held on

764
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: the international stage.

765
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: You know, I've broken a few records within Australia, especially

766
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 4: this season, but that's the first one that is across

767
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: the whole globe. And I feel like I have to

768
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: clarify because people get confused as not just a female record,

769
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: it is male or female that one. So I think

770
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: the most male wins in a season is ten by

771
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: Michael Kingsbury. Hannah had eleven and I've now got fourteen,

772
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: which is absolutely mind blowing huge.

773
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: There's put together the research for me and she one

774
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: of her questions was fourteen wins from sixteen events.

775
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: What happened in the two you lost?

776
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: Okay, no, I can't explain this.

777
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: So I got third place in the duel Mobile was

778
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 4: at Idrifil in Sweden, so I was dueling Jalen Koff,

779
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: who American amazing athlete. She came second on to me

780
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: in all the Crystal Globes this year, so had a

781
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 4: super consistent great season. So she beat me in the

782
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 4: semifinal in Idrifhall. I really messed up my jumps, which

783
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: is very uncharacteristic.

784
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: From me, and yeah, she got me over the line, so.

785
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 4: She progressed through to skip a first place and I

786
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: had to skip a third place, so it secured that so.

787
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 3: That one wasn't too bad.

788
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: And then we had Deer Valley this year, which was

789
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 4: I actually crashed, so I qualified into finals in first

790
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 4: place and you know, had great finals training. The course

791
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 4: was skiing so well, but it was really weird weather.

792
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: It was like raining at the bottom of the course

793
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: and trying to snow at the top of the course.

794
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: And after the training it started like.

795
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: Doing this wet snow on the top air and it

796
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: wasn't getting cleared and that stuff is really sticky. And

797
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: so when I came in, we'd the feedback I'd been

798
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: getting from my coaches I misinterpreted before the run and

799
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 4: I thought it was just a okay, trust your feel,

800
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: you're good. So I thought it was trust my feel

801
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 4: on the speed like they told me it was a

802
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: bit sticky.

803
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 3: They meant go really fast, trust your feel in the air.

804
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: Kind of important to I'm born to.

805
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: Clarify, so I did not.

806
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 4: I really got slowed down in that sticky snow and

807
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 4: did not jump big enough, so I didn't get close.

808
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: To making it to my feet.

809
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, Okay, so.

810
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: That's actually the first time I've crashed that trick on

811
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 4: snow and the first time I've crashed in a World Cup.

812
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: So it was a bit of a shock to everyone,

813
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: I think.

814
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: But I got up and ripped the rest of the run,

815
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 4: so I was pretty hystoke with that, and I was

816
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: just devastated to not get to show what I could do.

817
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: I was skiing really well there and I was really

818
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: excited to show everyone what I was capable of. But yeah,

819
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 4: I had to wait till Juells night to get that opportunity.

820
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: That was a bummer.

821
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: And for someone who is in like the peak of

822
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: your career from a performance perspective, how do you deal

823
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: with the little failures like that.

824
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

825
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: That really would have broken me a few years ago,

826
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: I think, having that sort of a performance, But this

827
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: year I was able to be really like analytical about it.

828
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: I was like, well, the odds of that happening were

829
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: so low and it was really unfortunate, but we could

830
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: actually take a lot away to learn about it in

831
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 4: the way that we all were communicating, and I should

832
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 4: probably watch some more people go before me when I

833
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: know the conditions are tricky and stuff like that.

834
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: So there are a lot of positives to take away

835
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: from it.

836
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: Pretty tough standing there and watching the super final ski

837
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: and you're not a part of it. But it was

838
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 4: really cool to see the other girls out there competing.

839
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: They were really pushing it.

840
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: So the girl that won, Olivia Giaccio, she had a

841
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 4: cork ten eighty, which there's not many girls out there

842
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 4: doing that, So cool to see her out there pushing

843
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: the spot and take the wind. But yeah, I was

844
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: stoked for them, but you know, a little bump for me,

845
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 4: but we bounced back really well. Like I was saying,

846
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: I've learnt to stay a lot more present and you know,

847
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: accept that happened in the past, know what I can

848
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: change moving forward and really just focus on that.

849
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: So you've got you came home with the three crystal gloves. Yeah, pretty,

850
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: they're pretty beautiful. They're stunning, trophy lovely. Yeah yeah, literally

851
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: a crystal globe on the stand, like.

852
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: That's really cool.

853
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you've come home with those Olympic champ most

854
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: wins in history man or woman. You don't have the

855
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: World champs title. That's the one you don't have. But

856
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: I feel like from talking to you and getting to

857
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: know you that that obviously would be incredible to tick off.

858
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: But it seems like you're way more process driven than that.

859
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: It's almost about how far you can push yourself to

860
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: reach to get as close to perfect as you possibly can.

861
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've really nailed it there. So I don't have

862
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: the world championship title. That's kind of the one that

863
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: I'm now missing in my career. So definitely would be

864
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: great to go out there and win that, but that's

865
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: not going to be the focus for me. Focus for me,

866
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: my coach, my team around me, where really invested in

867
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: that process of trying to strive for excellence, mastery in

868
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: the turns, in the jumping, in the speed of the sport,

869
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: in the strength and conditioning side, in the mental side,

870
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 4: like every aspect of it as a whole, and just

871
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 4: to get as good at it at all as I can,

872
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 4: as close to perfect as I can, like you said,

873
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 4: and kind of push beyond where even I think I'm

874
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 4: capable of. Is that's what's really driving me at the moment.

875
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: So the results are great, and I think they just

876
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: come with that kind of pursuit of that process.

877
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: The a bit of a result of it.

878
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, even if I

879
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: don't achieve that World Championship goald, I think I'm going

880
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 4: to be pretty happy. As long as I'm out there

881
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: and skiing the way that I want to, I'll be

882
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: pretty proud of that.

883
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: When you eventually do retire, it's hard to work out

884
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: you're trying to push the limits, Like, how do you

885
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: work out a point when you retire? How would you

886
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: feel satisfied with your career.

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00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting one.

888
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: I think at this point, with the results I've achieved,

889
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 4: I'm already satisfied. You know, I've taken an Olympic gold medal,

890
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: I've broken the records for most wins in the season.

891
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 3: I've won crystal globes.

892
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: Don't have that World Championships gold, but hopefully we'll get

893
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: it by the time I retire. I think for me,

894
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: the satisfaction will come more about what I've achieved on

895
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 4: the technical side of the sport, you know, I really

896
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 4: want We've got a few athletes in our in Mogle

897
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: skiing who people always talk about. They've left a real

898
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 4: legacy in the sport of how technically well they skied,

899
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: what they were doing with their jumping, how dominant they

900
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: were in the sport. And I'd really love to be

901
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: considered as one of them when I retire, you know,

902
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 4: have a bit of a lasting impact on the sport.

903
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: That some girls and boys way down the track are

904
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 4: still talking about me and looking at me for inspiration.

905
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: That would leave me pretty satisfied, I think special.

906
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Speaker 1: We chatted before the podcast about the fact that Australia

907
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: is a summer country and you're competing in a winter sport,

908
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: and that a lot of the athletes who are in

909
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: winter countries kind of walk down the street as celebrities

910
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: and things. What's the experience been like for you as

911
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: an Aussie achieving success at such a high level, but

912
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: then often coming home and having to deal with the

913
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: fact that it might not get as much coverage and

914
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: opportunities as an athlete in the summer Olympics.

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00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: It is an interesting one that so winter sport in

916
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: a summer sport country. Everyone that I've interacted with super

917
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: proud of my achievements, but maybe it doesn't get as

918
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 4: much exposure. So summer sports so not as many people

919
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 4: know about it, so it is harder to get support.

920
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: It is harder to get that exposure. I've been pretty

921
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: lucky that I've had that relatively good especially since Beijing,

922
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: but prior to that not such a smooth ride. So yeah,

923
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: I'm one of few that are getting well supported. It

924
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: is very difficult, but really grateful that for those people

925
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 4: who have come on board for the journey.

926
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Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest lesson you would say

927
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: for maybe a young kid who might be getting into

928
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: a snowsport or whatever their sport they're getting into, what

929
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: do you think your piece of advice would be?

930
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: Definitely have fun, as cliche as that is, like there's

931
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 4: no point doing it if you're not enjoying it. So

932
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: I've loved skating from day dot and I just think

933
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: that you need to keep looking to you find that

934
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: thing that you're really passionate about and pursue that. And

935
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: then in terms of if you're looking at taking that

936
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 4: you want to try and go to the elite level,

937
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: I think not putting a ceiling on what you think

938
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: is possible just because either people have only achieved so much.

939
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: I think that's really important. You know, we've never had

940
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: a woman competing the cork seven twenty mute before I did,

941
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: and all it took was for me to go and

942
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: do it, and next season we had so many more

943
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: girls out there trying to compete it. So, you know,

944
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 4: don't ever put a ceiling on what you're capable of,

945
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: do you think? Sorry, because I feel like that was

946
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: a good wrap up answer, but that an interesting point

947
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 4: that I just want to ask about.

948
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: What do you think it is about? Almost a mental barrier,

949
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: like was it something where people saw you could do

950
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: it and it then removes that barrier for people being like, oh,

951
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to give that a crack too.

952
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.

953
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: I mean if you can't see it, it's kind of

954
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: hard to believe it unless you've kind of got that

955
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: bigger picture of you. So, you know, not having girls

956
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 4: competing corks with grabs, most people wouldn't have even given

957
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 4: it a thought like oh, I'm going to need to

958
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: do that to be competitive or I want to do

959
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 4: that to push the sport. They kind of would have

960
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 4: just been off. That's not really what we do, you know,

961
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: So having just one person go out and do it

962
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: changes the game for everyone, So that's really cool.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you so much for having a

964
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Speaker 2: chat today.

965
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: I've loved the chance to get to know you and

966
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: a bit more about your story and how process driven

967
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: you are. And yeah, we love supporting you from AFAR

968
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: when your overseas competing and can't wait to keep watching.

969
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Speaker 2: So good luck for the remainder of your career.

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00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Really appreciate all the sport. It's nice

971
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 4: feeling so much love from back home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool.

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975
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976
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,319
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977
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