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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: To the Judges of Arms for the PUP test. Albert Pherson,

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Speaker 2: writing about her holistic approach to cancer recovery, does this

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Speaker 2: pass the PUP test.

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Speaker 3: She has said in her autobiography that she was diagnosed

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Speaker 3: with cancer sixty or seven years ago. She had a lumpectomy,

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Speaker 3: but she was urged to have a mystectomy, chemotherapy, hormone therapy,

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Speaker 3: and she said no, She's chosen a holistic approach. She

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Speaker 3: is an influencer, and she would say so, she's selling

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Speaker 3: a book. That's what her personality, her persona, her life

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Speaker 3: has made her a woman of influence. Some medical professionals

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Speaker 3: have said, this is very irresponsible that you have a

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Speaker 3: six percent greater chance of dying if you don't follow

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Speaker 3: traditional methods. This obviously is her choice, and she would

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Speaker 3: say this is what worked for her. But as an influencer,

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Speaker 3: is it okay for her to tell this story?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess if you read the book and read

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Speaker 2: exactly what she said. I haven't read the book yet.

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Speaker 3: But well, she said she chose to go to follow

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Speaker 3: her gut. I saw a whole lot of comments yesterday

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Speaker 3: on X people saying I chose that route, and I

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Speaker 3: have a limited time to live, etc. Others say, yes,

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Speaker 3: this has worked for me. Is it okay to make

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Speaker 3: it look like her success could be anyone's and that's

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Speaker 3: not her fault. She's not saying that, but that could

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Speaker 3: that be how that's interpreted. Elm the person writing about

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Speaker 3: her holistic approach to cancer recovery, she did have surgery

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Speaker 3: as well. Does this pass the pub test?

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't pass the pub test. I had a

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Speaker 4: life starting operation this year, and I don't think I

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Speaker 4: would be brave enough with a holistic approach, But I

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Speaker 4: am happy for el though.

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Speaker 1: When you're diagnosed with something, it is your choice to

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Speaker 1: however you want to do treatment, But don't upsize what

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Speaker 1: you're going through, especially when you're a celebrity and people

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Speaker 1: listen to you. Do the right thing and give people

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Speaker 1: informed decisions as to why you've made the decision you have.

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Speaker 1: Don't just say, oh, look, I'm just not doing this

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Speaker 1: because my body is a temple.

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Speaker 4: I think Elle is wonderful. I feel like our medical professionals,

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Speaker 4: I'm not in business to make this well, they're in

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Speaker 4: the business to make it sick. My husband's been through cancer.

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Speaker 4: He did go through chemotherapy and his treatment. However, he

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Speaker 4: still has blood cancer and we're now doing alternate therapies

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Speaker 4: as well, and he's been great for two years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it does because Superas everybody's got a

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Speaker 5: right to their own decision in their lives, and basically

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Speaker 5: it depends on what stage of cancer it is and

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Speaker 5: where you've talked to doctors. You know, I'd give everything

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Speaker 5: a go, So I don't think there's anything wrong with

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Speaker 5: what you did.

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Speaker 2: There, you go. It's your journey really, that's what it

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Speaker 2: comes down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you're doing your own journey, don't look

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Speaker 3: to anyone else apart from your professionals and how you

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Speaker 3: feel as to how you're going to approach that