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Speaker 1: You can catch Jack Johnson when he kicks off his

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Speaker 1: Meat the Moonlight tour in Kings Park on November twenty

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Speaker 1: nine and thirty. You can get tickets through Ticketmaster and

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Speaker 1: we're absolutely thrilled to bits that.

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Speaker 2: Jack is joining us now from Hawaii.

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Speaker 3: Hello Jack, Yeah, how's it going to?

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Speaker 4: Nice pronunciation of.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much?

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Speaker 6: With Breakfast?

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Speaker 1: Now? You have just released your eighth studio album, Meet

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Speaker 1: the Moonlight.

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Speaker 2: How do you keep finding inspiration for all these albums?

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Speaker 4: Ah, that's a good question. I don't know where it

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Speaker 4: comes from. Every once in a while I realized I

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Speaker 4: got enough to put together another record, and we decided

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Speaker 4: to go for it. But it's a funny question because

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Speaker 4: almost every time I think, well, I wonder if this

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Speaker 4: is the last one, and then a couple of years

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Speaker 4: go by and seems like there're songs again, you know,

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Speaker 4: but they come It has come from life experiences. I

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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're still making them in Mango Tree Studio, the

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Speaker 1: greatest home studio ever.

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Speaker 4: It's the greatest little garage. I love it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We did about half of it there and then half

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Speaker 4: of it at Sound City in La with Blake Mills,

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Speaker 4: who produced the record is where he records very cool.

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Speaker 4: That was pretty fun.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the album I've News got a Beauty

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Speaker 7: on it. There is a line in the song open Mind,

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Speaker 7: which I love, which is I'll find myself somewhere between

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Speaker 7: hope and doubt. Is that a song for the times?

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Speaker 6: Mate? Is that being influenced by the last crazy three

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Definitely. Guys sometimes get labeled as maybe overly optimistic.

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Speaker 4: I do. I'm an optimistic guy, definitely, but it's you know,

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Speaker 4: it's an interesting time and there's there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: things going on in the world, as there always is.

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Speaker 4: But I think that describes you pretty well, somewhere between

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Can you believe that it's been almost twenty years since

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Speaker 1: you released On and On just an unbelievable album, because

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Speaker 1: it wasn't even that was your second album, brush Fire

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Speaker 5: We've crossed twenty years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't that crazy? I know it's not. And it's

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Speaker 4: the same friends still playing music. The two guys that

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Speaker 4: same guys I play with today. I've been really lucky

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Speaker 4: just to be surrounded by friends and we get to

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Speaker 4: keep making music we feel, you know, we get to

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Speaker 4: do these families road trips and call them tours. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we can't believe it.

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Speaker 7: Speaking Jack speaking about friends and tours, I remember that

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Speaker 7: scene in Wainswiel where the boys are going to Elis Cooper,

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Speaker 7: I'm not worthy. Did you feel like that when Ben

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Speaker 4: Mom to Yeah, I literally probably said I'm not worthy.

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Speaker 4: And I did have a conversation when he first asked me,

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Speaker 4: and I said, Ben, I don't think I'm ready for this.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, like I barely even built a

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Speaker 4: He's like, hey, here's the thing, doesn't really matter. I'm

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Speaker 4: I mean, the first time we came to Australia was

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Speaker 4: Bay Blues and Roots Festival, and yeah, that was the

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Speaker 4: biggest show we'd ever played at that point. We got

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Speaker 4: Somehow we got this really good loot maybe Ben strings,

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Speaker 1: There's too many people that compliment each other, but too

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Speaker 1: that you've accumulated. I still laugh at the Taylor video

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Speaker 4: We haven't seen each other in person for a while,

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Speaker 4: And I barely know Hi when we made that video,

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Speaker 4: but we became friends for a while. We played ping pong,

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Speaker 4: he beat me because he sent me a ping pong table.

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Speaker 4: I still got it, but he he said here here's

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Speaker 4: because mine was really old. I think it had been

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Speaker 4: So he gave me like the gift, gave me a

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Speaker 7: I could imagine you if everyone's thinking any of the

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Speaker 6: You're a competitive base dot there.

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Speaker 4: You can just tell I am I'm a bit of

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Speaker 1: Not going to put I do tend to be the

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Speaker 6: A little bit anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now we know you're also a great champion for

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Speaker 1: the environment and sustainability.

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Speaker 5: And do you live in beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Hawaii recently talked about the environmental impact of plastics where

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Speaker 5: There's a true you.

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Speaker 1: Once considered stopping touring over the impact that it might have.

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Speaker 5: On the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, it was something as the tours grew and

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Speaker 4: were working on environmental issues in their areas. And then

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Speaker 4: to this day when we tour, we still donate money

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Speaker 4: from every show. We always have about ten groups tabling

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Speaker 4: people coming together in their own town. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 4: you leave, you know. So it's something we hear all

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Speaker 4: And I've met a few people over the years, but

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, And I also think I'm glad that you

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Speaker 1: be said for finding that happy balance of you know,

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Speaker 1: looking after the environment, but also what you bring to

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Speaker 5: We wouldn't want to miss out on that.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Yeah, it's pretty fun. I feel lucky.

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Speaker 4: It's always fun to hear the stories from people about

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Speaker 7: Well, speaking of road trips, mate, at least it's talking

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Speaker 7: But your fans go to the extra Have you been

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Speaker 7: surprised by the fans how they've stuck with you like that,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it blows me away. I can't. You know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're pretty spoiled to have Margaret River on our doorstep.

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Speaker 1: And when we talk about your surfing, you weren't just

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Speaker 1: A near death wipeout led you from pro surfing to music.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, if you were on tour somewhere with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, memories then anyways, Yeah, so that was the show

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Speaker 7: There had there been a bit of a traffic, James,

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Speaker 7: but Jack Johnson is sick.

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Speaker 6: And perform, and so we're lucky you rolled up. That

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Speaker 1: A list of his musical influences reads very nicely. Bob Dylan, Radiohead,

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a music shop. It just happened to have

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Speaker 4: He's probably the one musician that's really stuck with me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine if we'd had more time from him.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, just could have been possible.

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Speaker 6: I check.

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Speaker 7: I'll see a lot of videos on Instagram this week.

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Speaker 7: This month's about the Steines on that European tour and

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Speaker 7: don't move like Jagger necessarily on stage, but can you

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Speaker 4: Kid, Probably because I, you know, I like I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: I could probably sit on a stool with my type

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Speaker 7: You know, we'll see be good like the Great Blues say,

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Speaker 6: The iies like Muddy Waters. Just wondering.

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Speaker 7: We asked a musics on that show, the last band

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Speaker 7: or artist T shirt that you wore? Have you got

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Speaker 4: I don't have it right on, but the last I'm

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Speaker 4: Buffalo Springfield I got to go to when they were

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Speaker 4: a touring and I got myself a hoodie at the show.

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Speaker 5: I love that fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I love stay with still all right, Well, Jack Johnson

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Speaker 1: is going to be here in November twenty nine and

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Speaker 1: thirty at Kings Park kicking off the Meat the Moonlight Tour.

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Speaker 2: An absolute pleasure to talk to you. We look forward

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Speaker 2: to seeing you in town.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait to be there. Hopeully you'll see

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Speaker 4: you then.

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Speaker 6: Talk man, good to reminisce all the best.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys to take care of