1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just once answers mew. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Margin means that there's room around the edges for you 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: to do the stuff that lights you up, that's playful, 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: that's fun, that brings you joy. 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: And now here's the stars of our show, My mum 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: and dad. What's your favorite game in the car? 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't have a favorite game in the car. 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: I like to eat in the car. Is that why 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: there's always crumbs everything? 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: I like to sing? 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, singing is good. Singing is fun, Singing is playful. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: What about I spy? 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: Though? Surely you like I spy. 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Don't get me started with I spy. 16 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: You don't like to play though, do you? 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: It doesn't come very naturally to me, if that's what 18 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: you're asking. 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So this is something that I've discovered as 20 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: I watch parents. Actually, we should introduce ourselves for those who. 21 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: Are new to the podcast. I'm justin French. 22 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: I've written six books about raising happy families, and you are. 23 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm Kylie and I missus happy family. 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: Who doesn't like to play games? 25 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: Oh you're hilarious. 26 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 3: Actually you do like playing games? But I do. 27 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I love playing quirkle and I love playing blocks. They're 28 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: all bright colors. I love. 29 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: The competitive You like to destroy our children's self esteem. 30 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: That you demolishing so bad. 31 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: So today we're talking about playful households because something that 32 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: I've noticed about parents is that we don't often look 33 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: like we're having fun when we're with our kids. When 34 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: you watch parents in the shopping and it's probably unfair 35 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: because shops, kids hate shops. 36 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't know any parent who loves taking their kids 37 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: to the shops. 38 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: I don't know any child who likes going to the shops. 39 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: And that's that's the kind of the reason that was unfair. 40 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: But even at the park, a lot of parents look bored. 41 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: They don't want to be with their kids, And I reckon, 42 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: we need to talk about how to have fun, how 43 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: to have a more playful family environment. 44 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: Well that all sounds really, you know, dandy, but the 45 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: reality is life's hard. I just think about the person 46 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: who comes home, whether it's Mum or Dad or Bob. 47 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: You've been at work all day and you get home 48 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: and you just want to have a few minutes of downtime. 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and with COVID you don't even get that because 50 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: coming home means leaving the study and walking into the 51 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 2: living room. 52 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: There's no time to decompress like it's. 53 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: On and then every single person, whether it be your 54 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: spouse or your partner or your children, everybody wants a 55 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: piece of you. And you just want to decompress after 56 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: the day that you've had, and you know, compartmentalize everything, 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: and you don't get that, And so how are you 58 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: supposed to be playful with all of that? 59 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 2: I was going to say, it is hard to be 60 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: playful because not only have you got to try to 61 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: find the ability to smile and joke around and have 62 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: a nice time with people, but you're also juggling this 63 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: really significant issue of the cooking needs to be done, 64 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: the cleaning needs to be done, and everything needs to 65 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: be ready for tomorrow, and there's loads of washing to 66 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: put on or take out of the dryer. 67 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: So there's a lot going on. 68 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: And yet we know that kids who have high quality 69 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: playtime with their parents more resilient, they learn better boundaries, 70 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: they have a higher level of connectedness and relatedness. Being 71 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: playful at home is one of the easiest things that 72 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: we can do to build connection. Fill the relationship bucket 73 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: full of water, that gorgeous stuff that makes everyone feel 74 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: so good about life. And I reckon, as hard as 75 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: it is, and we should acknowledge that as you have, 76 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: it's really important for parents to get reminders regularly to 77 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: be playful. So I reckon, we should have a conversation 78 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: about how we can be more playful. And there's three 79 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: things that I think we need. 80 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Number one, margin, Oh really, what's margin? 81 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Margin means that there's room around the edges for you 82 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: to do the stuff that lights you up, that's playful, 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: that's fun, that brings you joy. 84 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: So we need margin margin. What's your point? 85 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: I feel like you're kind of digging the knife in 86 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: in a passive aggressive way and trying to injure me here. 87 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: What's maybe? What are you saying? 88 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone else will work it out. 89 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: What are you saying? 90 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: Come on, I don't think we have a lot of 91 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: margin in our lives. 92 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: Okay, So six kids, a business, a podcast, blah blah 93 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. But we can still have a sense 94 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: of time affluence, can't we. 95 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Sure if you follow me while you have a conversation, 96 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: as I clean the house and the washing, help. 97 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: With that thing you do. 98 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: So the first thing is margin, and I reckon we 99 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: need to be really intentional about that, which is the 100 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: second thing. Margin requires intention, So if we're going to 101 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: be playful with our kids, we have to be intentional 102 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: about not just being playful, but intentional about creating the 103 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: margin so that we've got the headspace to play without 104 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: being stressed and saying, oh, for goodness, ex we haven't 105 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: got time for this. 106 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: Got a bit. 107 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you a question then, around 108 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: that intention. Did you feel very playful when the roof 109 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: fell in? 110 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: Well, there are times to be playful, and there are 111 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: times to pick up the damage that's caused by a 112 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: bath that has overflowed into the TV room downstairs, and 113 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: cause the life is. 114 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: Hard, and whether it's the ceiling caving in, there is 115 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: stuff going on all the time, and as parents, it 116 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: can be really really hard to find the right mind. 117 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so two things about that though. 118 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: First of all, people's roofs don't fall in every day, 119 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: even metaphorically. And secondly, we have started laughing about it 120 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: now that we're a few days down the track and 121 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: we've realized that it's only going to cost a couple 122 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: of thousand dollars and not the jillion dollars that we 123 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: thought it was going to be. Even though that's a 124 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: horrible thing to have to go through, we're at the 125 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: point now where we can geel about it and it's funny. 126 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: The third thing we need if we're going to have 127 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 2: a playful household is margin, intention, and mindset. We've actually 128 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: got to have the mindset that life is fun, that 129 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: life is to be enjoyed, and that our family relationships 130 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: can be playful and enjoyable. Now, I don't think that 131 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: sarcasm is playful. I think sarcasm is usually rude and unkind. 132 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: But we can be playful in our relationships with the 133 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: right margin, the right mindset, and the right intention. 134 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: Let's talk about what that looks like in practice. Right 135 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: after the break. It's the Happy Families Podcast. 136 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: Imagine a home where discipline got result without anyone having 137 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: to feel bad or in trouble. 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I've 144 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: been thinking about this and thinking about our Mother's Day disaster, 145 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering whether or not you could have actually 146 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: invited everybody down so they could have had a water fight. 147 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: That would have been playful, that. 148 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: Would have been breathtakingly playful. I wish, I wish that 149 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: I'd done that. See now I'm feeling bad for being 150 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: a big grump and saying Mother's a's ruined because somebody's 151 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: flooded the bathroom and the rest of the house. 152 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Hindsight is a wonderful thing, is it not. 153 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. But it's also a great opportunity to 154 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: learn to be better. So next time we do flood 155 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: the house, we'll have a water fight. Okay, that's my 156 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: promise to you. I'll replay something to you. 157 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 5: You ready, Oh, hy there and welcome to me, and 158 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: I so order sell it. That aren't really salads. Today's 159 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 5: ingredients for snicker salad. 160 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: That's right. 161 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 5: In Minnesota, snickers and apples can make a salad. I 162 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 5: never said it was healthy. If you want to make 163 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 5: the salad extra Minnesotan use honeycrisp apples, which were developed 164 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: at the University of Minnesota in nineteen sixty. Mix one 165 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 5: package of vanilla pudding into one cup of buttermilk. Chop 166 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 5: eight apples. 167 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: Add your chopped apples to the pudding. 168 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: Lots of recipes say to take the skins off, but 169 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 5: I say leave them on, because where else are we 170 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 5: getting fiber in our diet. Chop your snickers? How many 171 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 5: snickers you ask? Measure that with your heart fold in 172 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 5: at least one top of cool it. But if you 173 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 5: have too many apples, you'll need two tups. And there 174 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: you have it, Snickers salad. And yes, I also use 175 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 5: milky way because I think it tastes like a caramel apple. 176 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: When it's all done, it does sound like fun. 177 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: A snack is salad that sounds like I've got Cinderella 178 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: in my kitchen. 179 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: So better? How playful? 180 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: Right? 181 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: How much fun? 182 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: You know what I really loved on Instagram in the 183 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: last week or so, maybe the last two weeks, Hamish Blake. 184 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: He's got this tradition and it's brilliant. 185 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: It's not as crazy, scary, horrible as a Minnesota salad 186 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: that snickers and apples with extra fiber. If you leave 187 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: the skin on what is going on there. 188 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: But Hamish Blake made a commitment to one of his 189 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: kids that every single year he would bake that child 190 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: whatever cake he wanted. 191 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: He clearly doesn't have six children. 192 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: No he doesn't, he has two. 193 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: But he promised that he would bake the cake for 194 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: the birthday every single year, whatever cake the kid wants. 195 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: And this year the cake took Hamish. He created this 196 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: Pokemon thing that opens and closes. It does so manually, 197 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: and it's in a bottle of jello, and there's cake 198 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: and there's there's just stuff everywhere. He was up until 199 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: one am. He started at seven pm, finished at one am. 200 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: Consumed a surprising him out of alcohol while he was 201 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: doing it to get through the night, I think, but I. 202 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: Just thought, here's this guy. 203 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: Now, obviously he's a comedian and everyone in Australia knows 204 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: Hamish Blake is. He's one of our most loved comedians 205 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: and he's also clearly a really devoted that and if 206 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: you follow on Instagram see that. But we talk about 207 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: playfulness and if you go through those three things that 208 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: I was talking about, margin, Hamish Blake has created the 209 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: margin that he needs to bake the cake every single year, 210 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: no matter what it takes. Intention he's really intentional about 211 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: being playful. And third, he's got a mindset that says, 212 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm here for my kids and I want their lives 213 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: to be joy and fun. 214 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: Now that takes the cake, can I say that. 215 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: You're so bad? So bad? 216 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: But what I love about that story is that all 217 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: of us can do our own version of that in 218 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: our homes. It doesn't have to involve ovens and icing 219 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: mixture and pokemon or anything like that. 220 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: But I'd like to see you take that one on. 221 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to bake a cake this weekend. Okay, let's see. 222 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to be fancy, it's gonna 223 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: come straight out of a packet, but I'll bake a 224 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: cake just to prove that I can. 225 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: And then I'm going to eat it in front of you. 226 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? 227 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: To prove that I can bake a cake, I might 228 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: share some of it with you. So let's talk about 229 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: some ways that we can be playful in our homes. 230 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 3: What do you reckon? Well, look, you've set me up to. 231 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Be the unplayful person in our family. 232 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: Well, okay, let me ask you a question. Then, proved 233 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: me wrong. When was the last time that you played 234 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: any kind of wrestling game with the kids. 235 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to wrestle with the kids. Do you 236 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: know how much I'm spending with my exercise physiologists to 237 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: get my neck and shoulders. 238 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: Or back to normal. 239 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Okay, they told me I had a cheeseboard for a back. 240 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: I rest my case a cheeseboard for a bit. 241 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to have cheese spine, but I have a 242 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: cheeseboard spine. 243 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: Who says that, I don't know. So, but you're not 244 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: playful because you don't wrestle the kids, right, No, that's 245 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: not true. Okay, tell me when you play with the kids. 246 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: Well, we put the music on really loud in the 247 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: mornings when you're off gallivanting around the country size I 248 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: don't know, surfing, or whatever else you do at that 249 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: early hour of the morning, we put the music up 250 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: really loud, and we dance. You should see Emily's moves. Awesome. 251 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: Okay, So but do you dance or do you just 252 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: send the musicals? 253 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: I dance? Where do you think they got their moves from? 254 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: Not one of us can dance? All right, Well, that 255 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: kind of takes care of my first three things that 256 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: I had on my list dancing and singing. They're great 257 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 3: ways for us to play with our kids. 258 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: I rest my case. 259 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: Okay, what else have you got on your list for 260 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: how we can be more playful? 261 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Look, I think one of the most favorite things that 262 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: I love doing is when we break the rules. 263 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: Oh tell me more about that. 264 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: Well, we have certain rules. The kids go to bed 265 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: at seven thirty, We don't watch a TV. 266 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: If they do not. It makes us sound so perfect. 267 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: When was the last time our kids went to bed 268 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: at side? 269 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying our kids, I'm just saying, you have rules, 270 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: got and seven thirty might be a time frame that 271 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: some people put their children to beds or you might 272 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: you might have a rule that you eat a main 273 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: meal before you have dessert, yes, Or you might have 274 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: a rule that you don't watch TV on school nights. 275 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: Uh huh, anything like, we've all got rules and you're 276 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: saying you can be more playful if you break the rules. 277 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 278 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, How cool is it when your kids come home 279 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: from school and you go, you know what, We're going 280 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: to have a movie night tonight. And I know we 281 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: usually eat at the dinner table, but we're going to 282 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: have dinner in front of the TV. 283 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm still going to argue that a movie not it's 284 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: the best way to be playful, but I take your point. 285 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: It's great to do that. One of my favorite ways 286 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: to be playful is we play this game with the kids. 287 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: I know you hate it because it destroys your beautifully 288 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: made bed every time we play this game called Pushed 289 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: That off the Bed. It started when our eldest was 290 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 2: our only child and she was only a couple of 291 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: years old, and she started trying to push me off 292 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: the bed one day and that turned into a game 293 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: and has been going for twenty years. 294 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: And I usually get injured. I need to go and. 295 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: See a messoge so to hire a practor the bed 296 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: takes an absolute hammering as well. 297 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: But we pushed that off the bed. 298 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: And then once I'm off the bed, the kids jump 299 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: on and I've got to get all of them off 300 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: the bed at the same time, which is getting increasingly 301 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: difficult the older and bigger that they get. But playfulness 302 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: goofing off the intention, the mindset and having the margin 303 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: for it. 304 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: These are some ideas that maybe will help your family 305 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: to be a little more playful tonight. 306 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: Well, I think we can be really playful tonight. If 307 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: you organized dinner. 308 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what donuts for dinner. 309 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: Ah. 310 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: Yes, done will. 311 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: Break the rules and we'll sing really loud while we're 312 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: eating them. We really hope you've enjoyed the podcast. We 313 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: have so much fun playing around with these ideas and 314 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: sharing them with you. We will not be talking about 315 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: Minnesota salads ever. 316 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: Again. Snickers and apple should never be combined in the 317 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: same recipe. 318 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: Thing that sounds really good, of course you do, just 319 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: not with donuts. 320 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to make that for your cake 321 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: this weekend. That's a guarantee. Thanks so much for listening tomorrow. 322 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: A Q and A from one of our listeners via 323 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: podcasts at Happy families dot com dot U. 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