1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: I first met Adore Beauty's co founder and CEO, Kate 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Morris several years ago at a Telstra Business Women's Awards event. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: We have since become good mates, and every time I 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: see her, I am in awe of how polished she looks, 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: but in a completely effortless kind of way. Now, as 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: the leader of a publicly listed e commerce beauty empire, 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Kate definitely feels the pressure to look a certain way 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: when she steps out of the house or presents herself 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: in a zoom meeting. So when I had Kate on 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: the show a few months ago, I was very keen 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: to hear about how Kate does this, and it wasn't 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: what I was expecting to hear. My name is doctor 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Amantha Imber. I'm an organizational psychologist and the founder of 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: behavioral science consultancy Inventium, and this is how I work 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: a show about how to help you do your best work. 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: On today's It's My Favorite Tip episode, we go back 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: to an interview from the past and I pick out 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: my favorite tip from that interview. In today's show, I 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: share part of my chat with Kate Morris about something 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: she did a few years ago to create a shortcut 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: for always feeling and looking like the best version of herself. 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: There are realities, I think for women CEOs of women 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: business leaders, in the sense that people look more at 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: our clothes than they do it all the men who 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: are just wearing boring suits and wear the same suits 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: all the time. And I was very aware of that, 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: but then also felt like I didn't really know what 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: I was doing on that front, and so every single 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: time I had to go to some kind of business event, 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: I would just basically in the week building up before it, 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: just have this massive wardrobe crisis and never feel like 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: I had the right thing to wear, and I guess 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: I would end up going to the event feeling not 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: like the best version of myself or not. I wanted 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: to look all the image that I wanted to be projecting, 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, I'm just like, it's just 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: really exhausting having to think about it all the time. 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Can I not delegate this is There must be someone 39 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: who knows how to do this, And there was, and 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: so yes, I enlisted a stylist who came to my 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: house and went through my entire wardrobe and made me 42 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: throw out all the things that were dorky and made 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: a list of what I needed, and she took me 44 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: shopping for three or four hours, which is probably it's 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: more exhausting than it sounds, actually, and just basically helped 46 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: me to put together a wardrobe where everything match with 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: everything else, and there was formulas that I could use 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: to understand, Okay, well, if you're wearing this kind of pant, 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: you need this kind of shoe, and that I had 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: all of that stuff ready to go, and it was, 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: oh gosh, it was one of the best things I 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: ever did, actually, because now I had the right things 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: to where to whatever the occasion might be. And I 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: think also to she acknowledged that it wasn't just a oh, well, 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: if you're going to a business event that says business attire, 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: Like what was business attire for me? Because if I 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: was just wearing like a Hillary Clinton kind of pants, 58 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: would I feel like myself? And in the end we 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: decided not, And so I actually end up wearing jeans 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: to most things. But also I feel confident doing it, 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: so I think, yes, having And it's similar to the 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: way I feel about beauty, right, It's like the whole 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 2: point of it is not to look a certain way, 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: but to feel a certain way. And for me, the 65 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: stylist was just a path to making sure that I 66 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: could feel like the most confident version of myself whenever 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: I went to these things. 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: And I'm imagining it must have had an impact on 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: just the time that it took to get ready and 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: just minimizing decisions. 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: Is that fair to say? Absolutely? I felt like I delegated. 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: The angst was great, someone else had already thought about this, 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: and I'd had a third party umpire check that my 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: outfits were acceptable. 75 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: So that is it for today's show. If you are 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: enjoying How I Work, you might want to connect with 77 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: me on the socials. So you can find me on 78 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: LinkedIn just search for Amantha Imba. I think I'm the 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: only Amantha Imba on there, if not on the planet possibly. 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm also on Twitter at Amantha and on Instagram at 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Amantha I, so please connect with me. 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