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Speaker 1: Do your kids refuse to eat anything unless it is

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Speaker 1: served with a hearty side of tomato sauce? Or do you,

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Speaker 1: even as an adult, go searching for the tomato sauce

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Speaker 1: bottle whenever you serve up your hot meal each night.

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Speaker 1: Like many condiments, there are many different varieties of tomato

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Speaker 1: sauce available in the supermarket. So today on the Nutrition

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Speaker 1: Couch Product Review, we take a closer look at our

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Speaker 1: favorite tomato sauce varieties to help you choose the healthiest

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Speaker 1: option for your petrie. Hi, I'm Leanne Wood and I'm

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Speaker 1: Sussie Burrow, and as two of Australia's leading dieticians who

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Speaker 1: specialize in everything evidence, space nutrition, we bring you the

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Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly chat on new products

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Speaker 1: and old favorites that you can find at the supermarkets. Firstly, Susie,

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Speaker 1: do the twins eat tomato sauce? And do they love

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Speaker 1: to smother their meals in a good old Ossie favorite

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Speaker 1: tomato sauce?

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm probably more guilty than them, actually, Like I

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Speaker 2: like tomato sauce with things like a schnitzel or any

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Speaker 2: kind of red meat, So I'm certainly someone who if

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Speaker 2: I don't have it at home, I'll have to go

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Speaker 2: and get some like I do like like it, and

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Speaker 2: my boys do have it, but they're not obsessed. They're

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Speaker 2: certainly not kids to add it to everything. They like

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Speaker 2: it with a sausage, but you know, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to brag and get people outside. But they're pretty good

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Speaker 2: with their food, so they don't. If they didn't have it,

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't throw a tantrum the way I've always probably

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Speaker 2: more me, So it's interesting I've always let them have it.

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Speaker 2: I've never been overly amal about not having it at home,

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Speaker 2: but I'm certainly not someone who serves it with vegetables.

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Speaker 2: It would certainly only be with things like lean sausages

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Speaker 2: or you know, if they're and having some chips and

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Speaker 2: a hamburger out. So it's not something we serve at

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Speaker 2: the table every night by any meansley at it's certainly

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Speaker 2: reserved for meat in general, or maybe a schnitzlot times.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I did think though that this is a

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Speaker 2: very topical conversation for parents, because I know there is

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Speaker 2: a lot of different options out there, and there's also

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Speaker 2: perception to mosals can be quite high in sugar, and

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Speaker 2: indeed if your child is having you know, a good tablespoon.

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Speaker 2: You know that can add up to almost twenty grams

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Speaker 1: In some cases.

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Speaker 2: So I do think four parents who are trying to

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Speaker 2: often conjole kids to cut back on sauce or have

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Speaker 2: an idea of how much is too much. It's a

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Speaker 2: segment that's quite pertinent, and I would also say there

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Speaker 2: is a growing range. I put the products together this week,

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Speaker 2: and I was a bit sort of pleasantly surprised how

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Speaker 2: many there are out there. But as just a general

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Speaker 2: rule of someone sources, as I would describe to any

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Speaker 2: of my clients, including parents, I have a rule of

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Speaker 2: one sauce per meal and about a twenty cent piece

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Speaker 2: struggles with limiting the sauce, just even getting the kids

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a good guide for all of us.

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Speaker 2: If you're a source lover, whether it's barbecue, sauce, mayonnaise,

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Speaker 2: whatever the condoment is that you add, measure it and

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Speaker 2: have a set amount rather than just pouring limitless because inevitably,

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Speaker 2: with humans, we all eat what we're served, and over

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Speaker 2: time we tend to serve a whole lot more. So

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Speaker 2: keep that in mind too.

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Speaker 1: And I definitely don't have a twenty cent piece of

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Speaker 1: tomato sauce with my meals because I am a tomato

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Speaker 2: Oh you love it. I'm surprised.

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I know what. Every time I put it

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Speaker 1: on my Instagram stories, people like what you eat tomato sauce,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, I can't get enough of it,

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Speaker 1: particularly my eggs. I'm a big Yeah, I love a

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Speaker 1: little bit of tomato sauce with my eggs. What's bad,

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Speaker 2: You know someone and then they have tomato sauce with

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Speaker 1: ever since I was pregnant, I really am. I'm a

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Speaker 2: It's not role modeling very well for me, or is it.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get David to role model there? Goodness,

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Speaker 2: As I said, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: About my own kids, And here's you a dirty sauce eater.

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Speaker 2: There you go. You heard it here First Land fitness

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Speaker 2: dietician tomato sauce.

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Speaker 1: He loves a good tomato sauce. Well, I hope youre.

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Speaker 2: Choosing one of the good ones. I'll tell you the

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Speaker 2: ones I've chosen.

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Speaker 1: Shy oh, absolutely, mine's on the list.

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Speaker 2: So the first one I've gone to is the Coals.

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Speaker 2: Now this is I hadn't seen this before actually, And

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Speaker 2: there's a thirty percent sugar reduced tomato sauce. It retails

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Speaker 2: for just a dollar fifty, so that's really quite cheap

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Speaker 2: compared to some of them. So per serve, which is

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Speaker 2: twenty meal, which is a tablespoon worth and hence good

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Speaker 2: much you're using. It's got just shy of one hundred

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Speaker 2: killer jewels, which is about twenty twenty. Is that twenty

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Speaker 2: five calories? No, not even twenty that twenty calories per serve.

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Speaker 2: It's right there in front of me. Hardly any protein,

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Speaker 2: no fat, which is what you would expect. Carbohydrate. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is interesting, we am because it lists almost five

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Speaker 2: grams of carbo hydrate per serve, but no sugar. Now

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Speaker 2: to me, that label is in trouble because it should

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Speaker 2: have sugar just because it's referring to it let alone.

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Speaker 2: It's I thought it was a legislative requirement to list sugar.

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Speaker 2: need to fix that asap. I will assume that most

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Speaker 2: of that carbohydrode is sugar myself. Is that a fair call?

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Speaker 1: Am? I being? Yeah, sugar is the second ingredient, and

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Speaker 1: I think the mark of that carbo hydrode is sugar,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sodium just shy one hundred milligrams, which is pretty

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Speaker 2: insignificant really if you're sticking to that serve. But if

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Speaker 2: So it's it's low, but it's not insignificant if you're

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Speaker 2: using large volumes, particularly for kids. So the sodium and

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Speaker 2: the salt is relative. Now, the ingredients here tomato pure

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Speaker 2: seventy nine percent, which is very low for a source.

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Speaker 2: That means twenty percent is made up of other crap

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Speaker 2: which is a bit of a concern, sugar fructose, So

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Speaker 2: two serves of sugar in there are thickener, may start,

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Speaker 2: in a you know, maybe six seven grams of sugar

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Speaker 2: have A masquerader's a bit health haloy, It's not. It's

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Speaker 2: definitely wouldn't be my choice. I wouldn't be buying that

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Speaker 2: because straight away I don't like sugar on the label

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Speaker 2: of my tomato sauce at all, let alone color. So

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Speaker 2: I'm actually really disappointed and I would say no, I

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Speaker 2: I said, I hate to see the full strength one.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen this before?

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Speaker 1: I think it is a newer product. I'm just trying

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Speaker 1: to look. Coals is very ticky. They don't put a

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Speaker 1: great deal of the nutritional information online. I do find

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Speaker 1: that Woo Worst is a lot better. I can't actually

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Speaker 1: home brand three point one grams of sugarst perserve, so

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Speaker 1: healthier the Woro Worst one than the Coals one. Is

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Speaker 1: they've got tomato pure seven.

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Speaker 2: But this is their Coals, a healthier one, you know

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Speaker 2: of those little Metro ones, and we hadn't we didn't

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Speaker 2: this was a Master Foods tomato sauce with hidden vegetables. Now,

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Speaker 2: if I'm looking at a product that wouldn't normally have

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Speaker 2: like when you I don't know, buying process meat and

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Speaker 2: they say, oh, it's got to serve a veggies in it, like,

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't go together. So I myself wouldn't buy

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Speaker 2: a tomato sauce with veggies usually, But I had a

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Speaker 2: closer look at this one for three fifty, so you know,

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Speaker 2: quite a bit more expensive than the home brand one.

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Speaker 2: The calories and the Killer Duels. This is a serve

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Speaker 2: ony of fifteen, so it's slightly less on the label,

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Speaker 2: which is going to lower the numbers, so that's relevant too.

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Speaker 2: They're about a quarter less than the typical serve, which

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Speaker 2: is a whole tablespoon, So say fifty four Killer Jules,

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Speaker 2: you add twenty five percent to that, it's about seventy

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Speaker 2: so pretty similar. Same with the protein as you would expect.

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Speaker 2: The fat's very low. Now this is what I likedly

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Speaker 2: am toe point seven grams of carbohydrate and then just

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Speaker 2: two point four grams of sugars, so almost half what

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Speaker 2: we think we were getting in that lower sugar product.

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Speaker 2: But as I said, we can't actually accurately report that

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Speaker 2: given it's not on the label needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Fixed where it's just estimating.

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Speaker 2: And the sodium again is oh my eyes, it not great,

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Speaker 2: ninety milligrams, so very similar. Again, so we look at

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Speaker 2: the ingredients here. Tomatoes are seventy three percent with the

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Speaker 2: tomato paste, which we know is very rich source of lycopene,

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Speaker 2: so very good for prostates as well. It does have

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Speaker 2: sugar in there, and then carrot pole so four percent,

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Speaker 2: carrot pole sweet potato pure five five percent, so you're

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Speaker 2: getting sort of another nine percent vegetables which takes the

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Speaker 2: vegetable content of that up to eighty two percent. And

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Speaker 2: there's a been onion as well some spice. So certainly

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Speaker 2: concentrated amounts of lykipene, a very powerful anti cancer molecule,

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