1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Alex Earl linked to boob 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: job boom out of bank, star Chase Stokes in the 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: middle of a messy divorce, and Hazley Brown rekindled her 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: friendship with podcasters Lucy and Nicky. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and it was 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: so exciting this week for the first time, Amy and 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: I checked out wedding dresses and it was extra special 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: because we've got to do it together. But we were 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: having a bit of a joke, Amy, because we have 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: called you the anti bride. You're not one of those 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: people who have looked forward to this day forever. No, 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: I don't have the Pinterest board, which is one thing 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Kay identified quite early. I was actually just hoping that, 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: because we were going along together, that maybe you would 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: just try the dresses on for me, because I don't 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: particularly like being the center of attention with stuff like that. 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: Do you know what shocked us all though, is I 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: think that you tried on more dresses than me. You 20 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: were being more picky than me, because I thought you 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: would literally walk in pointed a dress and say that's it. Well, 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: unfortunately for Amy, the dress that Amy had ear marked 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: the year ago when I was trying on dresses wasn't available. 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: So I think it wasn't as easy as you thought. 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: I know, but also you know when you go out 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: in the dress and you have to stand up on 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: this thing and everyone podium and everyone's looking at you, 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: and the responses I was getting, like, Kate, your facials 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: were not giving me much confidence in what I'd picked 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: out and what others had picked out for me. Well, 31 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be honest because the first one 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: you came out in the second stoor, I got chastised 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: by the shop assistant, who was the most loveliest person, 34 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: but she thought I was a bit rude because I 35 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: said it looked like an old lady's dress, and it did. 36 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: I feel like, you need to be honest, but then 37 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: also a mix of honest and supportive, because I don't 38 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: want to be a hyped up about a dress and 39 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: then you get it and regret it. I felt for 40 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: you guys, because it would have been really hard going 41 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: in together because while you have very different tastes, like 42 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: we talk about Sophie as being a magpie and that 43 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: she's attracted to sparkly things, where Amy you were more 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: looking for a classic dress. 45 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: It's hard because they all just started to look the 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: same by the. 47 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: End of line. Now think that I want something totally different. 48 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: I thought I'd want a palascatour looking dress Adelaide version 49 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: budget option, But after trying on a lot of glittery 50 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: beaded gowns, I think I want to go classic. 51 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: Now, just don't know my bandwagon. 52 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Hey, I just want a big hoodie, That's what I 53 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: kept joking. I was like, where is the bridal hooodie? Well, 54 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: there was a dress that had pockets, and I thought 55 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: that's for you, An I'll put you over phone exactly. Hi, guys, 56 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: welcome back to my chanel. Today. 57 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: We are doing this makeup look. 58 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: So I'm going to do a tutori on the look 59 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: that I'm currently wearing. Martha Califatitis and Michael Brunelli announced 60 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: the arrival of their son, Lucius on Monday night. The 61 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: couple made the announcement just after we finished editing Tuesday's episode, 62 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: which was rather annoying. The former mass contestant shared a 63 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: post on Instagram saying Lucius Brunelli. He's here, he's perfect. 64 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: What did you guys think of the name? Well, we 65 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: were discussing on Tuesday that there were strong rumors the 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: name would be Luciano, So my first thought was that 67 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Lucius was pretty close. And my second thought was, isn't 68 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: that Draco Malfoy's dad's name, because originally I thought it 69 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: was Lucius, which is Lucius Malfoy and that's how it's spelled, 70 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: and that's how it is pronounced in the Harry Potter film. 71 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: So some reason I feel like they are Harry Potter fans. 72 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: I think that they are. 73 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: But Michael did confirm in the comments that the pronunciation 74 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: is lou Shuss, so definitely not Lucius Malfoy. Well, the 75 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: name in Latin means light. Are you guys a fan 76 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: of the name. Well, it's definitely an upgrade from Giuseppe, 77 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: which was the original rumored name. I'm just not a 78 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: massive fan of it because it's quite difficult to pronounce. 79 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: We've had a few goes that we've been had a 80 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: little bit of an argument about how to actually pronounce it, 81 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: and also the connection to Draco Malfoy's dad, who wasn't 82 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: a very well loved character in Harry Potter. I don't 83 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: mind it. It feels a bit more classic than some 84 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: of the odd names that we're hearing at the moment, 85 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: like Bambi and Cloud. 86 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: But it's Harry Potter name. 87 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the names in Harry Potter have origins elsewhere. 88 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: Were you guys surprised by the post because I thought 89 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: it would have more bells and whistles. It was just 90 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: a simple photo in the hospital of their son. They 91 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: weren't in the picture. There wasn't crazy balloons or decorations 92 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: or anything like that, especially because Michael had promised that 93 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: people wouldn't believe what they were going to share. And 94 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: as you said, it was actually just a really nice, 95 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: normal photo of the baby. 96 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was good. I really liked it. 97 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: And the baby did have a lot of hair. I 98 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: think the baby is looking a lot like Martha. And 99 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: it really was the who's who of Blue Ticks that 100 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: came to congratulate the couple. So you had the likes 101 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: of Sophie Monk, Canadia Bartel, Abby Chatfield, Steph CLEAs Smith, 102 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Kayla Stinas, Chloe Zepp, Jackie Oh even just from the 103 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: ronicas was there. It was a very strange mix. Even 104 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: Gracie Piscopo was in the comments say goodbye to these 105 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: little eddie bitty titties, bitches, because twenty four hours from now, 106 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to have a rack. According to TikTok, boob 107 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: jobs are back. Plastic surgeons have noticed a sudden boom 108 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: in the surgery after a decline in popularity over the 109 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: last few years. Now, Sophie, what are surgeons putting this 110 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: boom down to? Were they calling it the Alex Earl effect? 111 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: And for those who've been living under a rock, Alex 112 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Earl is TikTok's latest it girl. She's a twenty two 113 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: year old college senior at the University of Miami and 114 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: she has become one of the fastest growing creators on 115 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: the platform. And over the last three months, she has 116 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: skyrocketed from one point two million followers on TikTok to 117 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: four point seven million. And it appears that influence has 118 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: now extended to the surgeon's knife. Yes, it does, and 119 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: according to online publication Glossy, it's all down to, as 120 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: you said, the Alex Earl effect. One plastic surgeon said, 121 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: I don't have a good handle on what may have 122 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: sparked it. The only thing I can point to is Alex. 123 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 1: The plastic surgeon's social media manager went on to say, 124 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Alex has a lot to do with the trend, and 125 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: TikTok's influence is just insane. Trends just kind of flow 126 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: from there. Now, this isn't a new phenomenon. Back in 127 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: the nineties, Pamela Anderson was one of the first women 128 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: to be open about her breast augmentation, which created a 129 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: spike in people getting the procedure, and more recently, you 130 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: only have to look at the Kardashians and the impact 131 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: they had on the popularity of the bbls. 132 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: Now back to Alex Earl. 133 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: In January, she shared she was celebrating what she calls 134 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: her booberversary, which was marking one year of having breast implants, 135 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: and she said she was having a Booby party with 136 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: booby cupcakes and champagne. And Alex has been very transparent 137 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: from the start, speaking about her breast augmentation on TikTok 138 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: just days after her surgery, and on a recent booberversary, 139 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: she said, if you're paying to get something done, wouldn't 140 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: you want people to notice? Like I paid all that 141 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: money for a surgery and no one noticed anything different 142 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: about me, I'd be pissed. She wanted to say that 143 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: this is also not convincing anyone to get a boob job. 144 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: She said, you should love yourself, but if there is 145 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: something you want to do for yourself, then do it. 146 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Don't care about what other people think. 147 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: And it's not just Alex. 148 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: Earl who's talking about breast implants to her millions of followers. 149 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, TikToker Kennedy Yuritch, who has one point 150 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: four million followers, documented getting a boob job as well. 151 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: She later revealed that she also got liposuction on her 152 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: lower stomach at the same time. TikToker Becka Moore, who 153 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: has one point two million followers, got hers done back 154 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty two and is very open about 155 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: the experience. There's also Jasmine Smith, who has two hundred 156 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: and thirty three thousand followers on TikTok and also hosts 157 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: the Hot Girl podcast Now. She spoke this week about 158 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: her plans to get a breast augmentation. Another TikToker called 159 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: Kensington Tillo, who has one point five million followers. An 160 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: noowunced in February that she's scheduled to get her breast augmentation, 161 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: and Kensington said, I feel like all the TikTok girlies 162 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: are getting boob jobs right now, and she's not wrong. 163 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: The hashtag breast augmentation has nine hundred and seventeen million 164 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: views on TikTok. I was quite surprised by this movement 165 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: because I think that we've seen a lot of people 166 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: reversing work that they've had done. For instance, a lot 167 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: of influencers have been dissolving their lip fillers. There's also 168 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: been a lot of talk of making sure that this 169 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: surgery or cosmetic procedure is right for you, because there's 170 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: been a lot of terrible people performing surgery. 171 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: So I was quite surprised. 172 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: To see this, yeah, because I remember in around twenty 173 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen, there was an influx of YouTubers documenting their 174 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: breast implant surgeries. I remember Shany Grimmond was one of them, 175 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Tylia Scaines was another, and then it almost seemed to 176 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: have flipped around twenty twenty and there were a lot 177 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: of people talking about breast implant syndrome, you know, celebrities 178 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: and influencers and a lot of people getting X plant 179 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: surgery to remove their implants, and from a local perspective, 180 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: Britney Saunders and Georgie Stevens spoke about their experience getting 181 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: that X plant surgery. So, as you said, Sophie, I 182 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: was a little bit surprised to see this turn of events, 183 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: particularly because during the pandemic there was a decline in 184 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: all plastic surgeries for obvious reasons. But liposuction has actually 185 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: overtaken breast augmentation for the most popular surgery. Do you 186 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: think that after the pandemic everyone's just saying, fuck it, 187 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I want to live my best life, I want to 188 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: get out there, I want to look the best I can. Well, 189 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: I think that now TikTok has turned into a bit 190 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: of a surch engine and it is actually a place 191 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: where young girls are going in and they're typing in 192 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: different surgeries that they may want, and because they're seeing 193 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: such influential people doing it, they go, oh, well, maybe 194 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: I should do that. Well. I think a big part 195 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: of that is also seeing firsthand people's experiences. It's not 196 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: just big celebrities and big influences. There are normal people 197 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: on the platform sharing their real life experience with getting 198 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: breast implant. It's quite funny because it just shows how 199 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: much attitudes towards plastic surgery has changed, because back in 200 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: the day, surgery was something that people didn't speak about. 201 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: It was something that people kept private and didn't want 202 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: people to know. And now suddenly there are people out 203 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: there wanting to document their surgeries to the whole world. 204 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm in such two minds about it because I think 205 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: that it's great that influencers and everyday people are transparent 206 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: about what they have done, because a lot of young 207 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: girls can be sitting at home looking at this content, 208 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: thinking why don't I look like these people? And then 209 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: they realize that there's been a lot of money, a 210 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: lot of time and effort put into why these women 211 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: look the way they do. But the other thing that 212 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: worries me is for people who one can't afford it, 213 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: who don't want to go through the whole painful process, 214 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: and they're seeing this as just a normal thing that's 215 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: being done. Well. It was quite funny because one of 216 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: the TikTokers who recently got breast implants, Becker More, she 217 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: was saying that originally she had initially planned not to 218 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: share that she was getting the surgery, and then her 219 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: plastic surgeon said, oh, I can give you a discount, 220 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: but she didn't want to take the discount. She said 221 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: she paid for all herself. But she thought it's very 222 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: important to be transparent to your audience and they're going 223 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: to find out anyway. But she also said she sees 224 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: it as a trend more for influencers and not everyday people, 225 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: because she said that everyday people can't afford a ten 226 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars breast augmentation. Then are we seeing as just 227 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: something that you have to have breast implants in order 228 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: to be big on TikTok? 229 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: That's that all we're getting into. 230 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I think her opinion was very small minded because it's 231 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: like your job is an influencer. Yes, influencers are the 232 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: ones that can afford this surgery straight away without any difficulties, 233 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: but it doesn't stop normal everyday people saving up to 234 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: get the procedure because they've seen someone they follow get us. 235 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: That's my consent. Really young and impressionable girls watching these 236 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: TikTokers and going I want to get a boob job 237 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: because they have the boob job and they've never wanted 238 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,359 Speaker 1: it previously. 239 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. 240 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: If someone does really want it, that's their own probabum 241 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: to get it. There's no issues there. But I think 242 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: that it's being seen now as you know, influencers promoting 243 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: makeup and everyone wants to go get the makeup, and 244 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: then suddenly there's a new product on trend. I would 245 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: hate to think plastic surgery was just an on trend. 246 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: TikTok sad and that they would and that they would 247 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: regret it as well, especially because there has been such 248 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: a rise in breast in plant syndrome. I think what 249 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: is a worry as well is it's been seen as 250 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: a step to succeed. So so many young girls want 251 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: to be big on TikTok, and there's so many beautiful, 252 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: stunning girls on TikTok, so they think, I have to 253 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: get all these surgeries done in order to be in 254 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: this elite circle of women who look the way that 255 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: they do well, particularly because alex Earl is celebrating her 256 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: one year booberversary and you think about the last four 257 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: months how much her TikTok following has grown. The only 258 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: thing is though watching someone go through the process. I 259 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: mean I remember seeing Shanny and also Tylia Scaines's vlogs 260 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: about it, and I just thought, fuck, I would never 261 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: ever want to do that after seeing the full experience. Yeah, 262 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: but then part of you wants the video is done. 263 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: You're like, wow, how good do they look? Particularly if 264 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: the video is only a couple of minutes, Like, you 265 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: can make something not look so bad if it's very quick. Yeah, 266 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: and just bounce back and they're out there with their 267 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: bras on the looking ground. TikTok, Yeah, cheese, yes, Madeline, 268 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: we've brought you in today to take a light detector test. 269 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: You have once said that I have been the best 270 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: dog mom to your dog, Maleel. 271 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: Do you think that's true? 272 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: I do, except when he poops sometimes and you don't 273 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: pick it up. 274 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: It smells. 275 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: Actor Chase Stokes has been generating headlines during his press 276 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: tour for hit Netflix show Outer Banks, from getting monkey 277 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: piss in his eye to his blossoming relationship with recently 278 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: divorced country singer Kelsey Ballerini. It's all happening now, listeners 279 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: may recall, So, if that Chase Stokes is your celebrity 280 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: hall pass, so you were very interested in researching this topic. Yeah, 281 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: I was just researching it in my personal life, and 282 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: then you guys said, hey, why don't you do it 283 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: for the podcast? So basically you were just researching whether 284 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: he was single. So right, yeah, he's been single for 285 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: a while, but yeah, now he's got a new girlfriend. Unfortunately. 286 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: But I'm going to get in trouble because Brandon started 287 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast and he knows that I love him. 288 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: Does he just listen to the start and the end? Liked? 289 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think he sees the topics he wants to 290 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: tune into. But anyway, Chaser's love life has been generating 291 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: big headlines. As you said, Kate and out of Banks 292 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: fans have been heavily invested in his love life ever 293 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: since he started dating his co star Madeline Klein after 294 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: season one of the show, and their real life romance 295 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: was promoted quite heavily during the press for the first 296 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: two seasons because they do play love interests on the show. 297 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: Such an attractive couple. 298 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: But I feel like everyone has been waiting for them 299 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: to break up because it's just such an awkward thing 300 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: them having to act in love on the show when 301 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: they're not in love anymore. I don't think people were 302 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: waiting for them to break up fans were absolutely devastated 303 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: when they all got quit. No, but I mean that 304 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: there's always a ticking time bomb on these sorts of 305 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: relationships when they're working together. I think that people were 306 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: kind of baited breath seeing if they would last out 307 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: the next series or would we see some awkward tension 308 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: between the two on set. I feel like there would 309 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: have been stands that just love them as a couple, 310 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: but then there were the single girls and the single 311 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: guys that would have been waiting out the relationship. Yeah, 312 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: there were so many stands who were shipping this relationship, 313 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: making Instagram pages where they would reshare couple photos, and 314 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fans hope that they would get back 315 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: together during the filming of season three. Sadly that did 316 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: not happens. Madeline has since moved on with Jackson Guffie, 317 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: who is the lead singer of the band North of Nine. 318 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: They now share a house together in Malibu with their 319 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: two dogs, so things are pretty serious between the two 320 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: of them and Chase. Stokes has been linked with a 321 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: number of other high profile women, including Steve Job's daughter 322 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: Eve Jobs, and also a model named Isabella Metz. Can 323 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: you imagine how awkward that would be having to act 324 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: scenes with your ex girlfriend, so you're having to pretend 325 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: that you're still in a relationship when you're broken up. Well, 326 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: I've already binged the whole new series and it was 327 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: quite interesting because they didn't have that much airtime together. 328 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: They did share a few kisses. 329 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: But I don't want to ruin it for those places. 330 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I've only seen one episode. Yeah, they didn't have much 331 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: screen time together, which I wonder if that was a 332 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: move by the directors purposely. It's funny you say that 333 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: because I heard Penn Badgely from Gossip Girl and also 334 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: from You, talking about how in the upcoming season of 335 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: You he didn't want to be a part of any 336 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: sex scene and it was controversial because he linked it 337 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: to his own personal fidelity inside his own relationship. Yeah. Well, 338 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can disconnect, particularly if you 339 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: are playing a role with your ex and you're having 340 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: to kiss them and you know, pretend to be intimate 341 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: with them. But if you're an actor, surely this is 342 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: a professional thing, like you know, when you're a doctor 343 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: and it's all medical. Ye know, we're switching into character. 344 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: I think it should be, and I think normally it 345 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: would be. But if you've got a history with the person, 346 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: can you imagine going home home to your house in 347 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: Malibi with the two dogs, to your new boyfriend being like, yes, sorry, 348 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: we had a makeout scene today. Oh, it would be 349 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: so awkward. It'd also be awkward to switch off your 350 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: feelings and not have them coming flatting back, particularly when 351 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: you're acting alongside Chase. Stoaks are men. What about the 352 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: partners then having to sit. 353 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,479 Speaker 2: Through the series? 354 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Well, in what has been very interesting timing, Chase Stakes 355 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: has also gone public with a new relationship. So in 356 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: mid January, he shocked fans by posting a photo of 357 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: him cuddling up to country singer Kelsey Ballerini at a 358 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: football game, and this sent fans into a spin. So 359 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: one fan wrote under the photo Kelsey and Chase was 360 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: not on my twenty twenty three bingo card, and there 361 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: were lots who shared their disappointments, saying they were hoping 362 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: that he and Madeline Klein would get back together. It 363 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: was also pretty gross because a lot of people were 364 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: comparing the two women. One user wrote, I'm not over Caselin. 365 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: It still hurts a lot, and another said, no, Chase 366 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: she was married for five years and just divorced. I 367 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: was quite obvious. He's a bit of a rebound here. 368 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, who wouldn't want to rebound with Chase. Imagine 369 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: her ex husband seeing all this unfold. Now, this does 370 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: bring us to Kelsey. So Kelsey is a big deal 371 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: in the country music scene. She has over three million 372 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: followers and made headlines in August last year when she 373 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: filed for divorce from her husband, who is also a 374 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: country singer. So his name is Morgan Evans. He's actually 375 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Australian and the pair got together in twenty seventeen. They 376 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: dated for a year and quickly got married. So they 377 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: have been married for five years and this divorce is 378 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: getting very very messy between both parties and they're airing 379 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: their dirty laundry in the public now. Soon after this 380 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: divorced was announced, her ex husband Morgan released a single 381 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: called over for You, where he claimed he was blindsided 382 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: by the divorce. Then in February, soon after her new 383 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: romance with Chase was revealed, Kelsey dropped her new album 384 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: called Rolling Up the Welcome, where she delved into her 385 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: divorce from Morgan. She then appeared on Call Her Daddy 386 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: just last week going into detail about her marriage breakdown. 387 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: So she revealed that her family and friends were skeptical 388 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: of Morgan's intentions throughout the marriage, saying that he had 389 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: more to gain from her in reference to the fact 390 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: that she had a really blossoming music career and he 391 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: was sort of in the background. Well, she's got three 392 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: point two million followers on Instagram, but I admit I 393 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: have never heard of her until today. Well, she's bigger 394 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: in America and very much so in the country space. 395 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: But the fact that she's been on call her daddy 396 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: just shows how big her star is growing. Kelsey also 397 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: revealed that she financed a lot of the relationship, So 398 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: she said that she paid for a lot of her 399 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: ex husband flights and the majority of the house. And 400 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: she said that she kept the relationship going because they 401 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: were both touring all over the world and she kept 402 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: trying to organize time for them to actually see each other. 403 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: They were also. 404 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: Apparently in marriage counseling, so there was a lot going on. Gosh, 405 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: herd sort of dis album and then this interview is 406 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: real big fuck you to the ex husband because he 407 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: tried to pipp her at the post and release this song, 408 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: trying to make it look like she was the one 409 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: with the issues in the relationship, but she's really turned 410 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: that on its head. Well, he's put out another fuck 411 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: you only today. So since her Call Her Daddy interview dropped, 412 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: Morgan has now released a five part YouTube docco series 413 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: named after his disc single over for You. So. This 414 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: series was supposed to follow him on his Australian and 415 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: New Zealand tour, but instead it focused on his marriage 416 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: breakdown because that was happening whilst he was on tour. 417 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: So during the doco series, Morgan's father says the country 418 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: singer's life was destroyed after the split and everything in 419 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: his life was blowing up. God, who's got the messiest split. 420 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: You've got Chase having a wet with Madeline Steel, You've 421 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: got this drama going on. You guys might be wondering 422 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: how did they actually meet? 423 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: Well, I think you're one. I was wondering how this 424 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: is all hard? Heart broken? 425 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: But I know it happened through a dm SO base 426 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram. So she slid in writing high Chase Stoakes, 427 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: it's fucking genius. Why didn't I think of this? 428 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: I don't think it would work if you didn't have 429 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: a blue tip. 430 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: Can you think of all the millions of other fans 431 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: that have tried that already? And they're like, this bitch 432 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: has just sent him one message. So they started speaking 433 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: in December. They then did a couple of soft launches 434 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: around January. For instance, Kelsey filmed a TikTok where she 435 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: showed an arm in her bed and the arm had 436 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: chases tattoos obviously on it. It sent fans wild, What 437 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm with these tattoos? Because I was just looking at 438 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: his instagram and they're like really small, little sort of yeah, 439 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: not randomats. 440 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: Has he done them himself? 441 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: No, well, they've been done by a tattoo artist. They're 442 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: those fine line tattoos that are quite in fashion. Anyway, 443 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: It just seems like kind of odd timing, particularly because 444 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: the two of them launched their relationship as she is 445 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: launching a new album, as Out of Banks is coming out. 446 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: These two were everywhere at the moment. Now gossip site 447 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: dou Noi is on the same page as me. They 448 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: think that this could be a bit of a pr relationship. 449 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: I tend to agree very much. So the timing of 450 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: all of these big projects launching all of the controversy 451 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: of both of these relationships. It's a perfect piece for 452 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: tabloid fodder. I can see why she might want to 453 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: put it out there because it is brutal timing for 454 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: the eggs. There's a big fuck you to the ex husband. 455 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: But it actually seemed to be him pushing the soft 456 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: launch because there were a lot of paparazzi photos of 457 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: the pair of them floating around, and apparently in the 458 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Caller Daddy interview, Kelsey said that Chase was like, let's 459 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: just put it out there. We'll see what happens. Yeah, 460 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: but he might be trying to get back at Madeline Cline, 461 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: who's moved on. He doesn't want to be the loser 462 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: in this situation. People are googling are they still together? 463 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: And oh, she's moved on, but he's single. That's true. 464 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: They actually do seem quite suited to each other. They 465 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: seem quite cute. Both of them are doing a lot 466 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: of touring around the world at the moment. Who knows 467 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Hello, and good Morning Today was 468 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: a shocker. Influencer Lily Brown has sparked rumors that she 469 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: has rekindled her friendship with the wild Ones, Nicki Westcott, 470 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: and Lucy Jackson. So if the rumors were spark by 471 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: the trio's mutual friend M Davies, Yeah, that's right, Kate. 472 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: So M Davies and Lily Brown's friendship has really been blossoming. 473 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: The two appear to be really close and they've been 474 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: holidaying with one another. They've been appearing in each other's content. 475 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: One of their. 476 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: Videos actually popped up on my TikTok yesterday and it 477 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: was a real throwback to that twenty eighteen nineteen era 478 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: where every YouTuber was asking for the same thing that 479 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: the person ordered in front of them, and it was 480 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: very entertaining. I quite like seeing them back together. Yeah, well, 481 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: listeners might remember that last year we spoke about how 482 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: their friendship sparked controversy when they asked their Instagram followers 483 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: if they should consume a weed brownie before boarding a 484 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: flight to Balley. So they've gone through some shit together now. 485 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: Lily was helping em put together a launch event for 486 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: a handbag line that she's collaborating with, and the event 487 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: was held at Gold Coast restaurant Rickshaw's and there were 488 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: a number of influencers and also EM's friends gathered to celebrate. 489 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: Now on the guest list, well Lucy and Nikki. Now, 490 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: Lily didn't appear in vision with the two podcasters, but 491 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: it did appear that their relationship must have somewhat improved 492 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: to the level that they can actually be at an 493 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: event together. Now m did one of those on trend 494 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 1: videos where it shows the person saying their name and 495 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: that they're having their first drink, and then later in 496 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: the day it shows them having their last drink and 497 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: how drunk they are. And Lily, Nicky, and Lucy all 498 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: appeared in this video separately, but it was clear that 499 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: it was a big day for a lot of them. 500 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: So it's a bold move to have three people together 501 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: who have had a friendship breakdown if they're not on 502 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: good terms, particularly when drinks are involved. How many guests 503 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: were there? Do you think there was a long table 504 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: of people. Quite a number of people were there, but 505 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: not enough people that you could avoid. I don't think 506 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: it means they're friends, though, because I've been at events 507 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: with people that I don't particularly like. Yeah, but the 508 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: thing is they must be on good enough terms that 509 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: they're not going to have some sort of big fight 510 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: and ruin the available for some background, The trio were 511 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: inseparable and great friends up until Lily broke up with 512 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: the ex Jerome a number of years ago, and on 513 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: social media Lucy and Nikki appeared to side with Jerome. 514 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: It's not quite clear exactly what happened. Maybe because Lily 515 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: is in a new happy relationship. It's kind of like 516 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: water off a duck's back now. They literally came the 517 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: day that I landed. So im not gonna lie. I 518 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: was so je. There is one phrase that is taking 519 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: over jen z Lingo. It's the term not gonna lie, 520 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: and it is infiltrating general conversation. I feel like I 521 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: can't turn on YouTube or even love Ireland at the 522 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: moment without hearing it said over and over again, and 523 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: it is doing my head in. I'm not gonna lie. 524 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: This is a UK thing. Every UK influencer says I'm 525 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I feel like, to be honest, must 526 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: be a millennial thing because you say it all the time, Amy, 527 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: And it's funny. When we did a listener survey there 528 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: were some catch phrases that people said, we stay all 529 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: the time. Maybe that's the Ossie version of not gonna lie. 530 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: I do remember. 531 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: Also, our best friend Owen told each of that we 532 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: have our own catch phrases that we use during arguments. 533 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: We can't quite remember what they are, see, No, mine's 534 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: all right. 535 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, for. 536 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: Those who aren't across it, it does seem pretty obvious. 537 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: But if you say not gonna lie, its purpose is 538 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: to state that you're about to tell the truth about something, 539 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are I'm not gonna lie. 540 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: But that's pretty obvious. Yeah, I know, but a lot 541 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: of people are saying it's so redundant to say, because 542 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: of course you're not gonna lie to someone. Of course 543 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: your attention is not going to be to lie to 544 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: that person, So the redundant comment. So is the word like, 545 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: but everyone uses it, it's redundant. Yeah, of course, it's 546 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: sort of a joining word that you use when you're 547 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: trying to think of something. I feel like Seth from 548 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Barker says, I'm not gonna lie literally just start every sentence. 549 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: It's so irritating. Some other common phrases that you guys 550 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: have heard like this, Well, yeah, to be honest, I 551 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: think we will say that a lot. I notice even 552 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: listening back to the podcast. I'll always say, well, that's interesting, 553 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: but it's very hard to come up with something to 554 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: say instead. Maybe that's why people say it, because when 555 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: you do start speaking on a podcast or on a vlog, 556 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: there are these phrases. 557 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: That you just go to, like, hi guys, well. 558 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: Side note love Island. Oh my god. It started off slow, 559 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: and I thought, what am I doing? I've got to 560 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: turn this off. I am so glad that I persisted. Really, 561 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: it is getting so good, how like because I've started 562 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: it and stopped it, and then I'm trying to catch 563 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: up with maths and I'm finding that hard to keep it. 564 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: I think it took three weeks to get into it, 565 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: and now I am up to the part where they've 566 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: just left Cassra Moore and all the shit is hitting 567 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: the fan. I'm hanging out to watch movie night. I 568 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: am a little behind. But a lot of our listeners 569 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: have said, why aren't we talking about Love Island this year? 570 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: Because we did talk about it heaps last year with 571 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: the Eck and Sooux series. 572 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: People didn't like it though. 573 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: That's the thing. We've got a lot of complaints about 574 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: talking about Love Island, and now that we're not talking 575 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: about people I would have put my two cents out 576 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: there quickly because we've got Australian Love Island contestant Jesse, 577 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: who's now in the UK version. And at first I 578 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: felt a bit indifferent about it. I thought, Oh, it 579 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: feels a bit weird to have an Aussie on there. 580 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: She is so lovely and she is paired up with Will, 581 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: who's the farmer, and he did a dirty and castra 582 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: more for me, despite the fact that he seems so 583 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: into her, and she just dealt with it with such grace. 584 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: She was so lovely to the castro remore girl. Oh 585 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: my god, she's come off so well on the show. 586 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: I saw she said to him, I was just about 587 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: to come back and tell you that I loved you. Yeah, 588 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: because people were questioning her motives because Farmer Will is 589 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: probably the most popular. 590 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: Islander in there at the moment. 591 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: But I think it's obvious what a nice person, as 592 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: you said, Jesse is. Everyone has realized how genuine she 593 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: is because she has been so heartbroken by Will's actions. 594 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: I kind of think, though, when those two Aussies went in, 595 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: I know, no one's really there for love, but there 596 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: are some genuine love stories that come from the show. 597 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: Look at Tommy and Molly having their baby the other day. 598 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: I kind of made me think, well, she's going to 599 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: have to move to the UK, but I suppose she'd 600 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: probably be up for it because she will be such 601 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: a huge celebrity when she comes out of the villa 602 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: that it would. 603 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: Be silly not to move to you. 604 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the opportunities are there. One thing I couldn't 605 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: get over about Love Island, and it made me feel 606 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: really old, was all the guys wearing those mini pearl necklaces. 607 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: And I know they're popular, but literally every guy has 608 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: the Oh it's crazy, isn't it? Before we do go, 609 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: I know we got to wrap things up, but I 610 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: also want to put out there to listeners who are 611 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: obsessed with this show too. What is happening with Tanya 612 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: and Shaq? My god, what is Tanya's issue? She has 613 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: been okay, So to paint it for you guys. Ten 614 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: days in, Shaq and Tanya said that they love each other. 615 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: We're seriously in episode six and I was like, Shaq 616 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: is a sweetheart. She then cheats on Shaq in Castro, 617 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Moore brings back a new guy, Martin, and then now 618 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: Shack and Cheer back together even though she brought someone 619 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: else in. It is fucking wild what's going on? She 620 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: has treated him like utter I never liked her from 621 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: the start. I felt like there was something a bit 622 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: off about her. Well, I think that is all we 623 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: have time for today. 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