WEBVTT - Life in a 'Closed, Quad, Polyamorous' Relationship - Uncut with Taya and Alysia

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on Drug Wallamata Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany and I'm producer Keisha feeling in for Laura. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hold alone one second. I think I've left the stove on.

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<v Speaker 1>My past is cookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, al redes that I will tell you what we

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<v Speaker 3>are doing in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>This was such an incredible chat.

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<v Speaker 3>We are chatting with Taya Heartless and Alisha Rogers. Now

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<v Speaker 3>Taya and Alisha are ever in America and they are

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<v Speaker 3>in a closed quad polyamorous relationship and is the pastor

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<v Speaker 3>boiling over the stove?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm back, I'm turned the stove box. Yes, today's

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<v Speaker 2>episode is absolutely incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this online and I had to reach out

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<v Speaker 1>and contact the women because I was so intrigued by

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<v Speaker 1>how it worked and listening to them talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship work really.

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<v Speaker 2>Opened my eyes to a whole nother perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the way it works is that Taya is

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<v Speaker 3>married to Sean and Alicia is married to Tyler, or

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<v Speaker 3>at least they were individually married couples. Okay, so they

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<v Speaker 3>came together. They are now a part of the One family.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got four kids, they've got a fifth one on

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<v Speaker 3>the way. The biological origin of those kids is not

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<v Speaker 3>known because it's not important to them, and they live

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<v Speaker 3>their whole life as the one family under the one roof.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a very modern day Brady Bunge with a

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<v Speaker 1>sexy twist. I think you're kind of gonna love listening

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<v Speaker 1>to it as much as we loved recording it. My

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<v Speaker 1>little gold medalist over here for the one hundred meters

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<v Speaker 1>athletics hurdles.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty ukily out of big weekend and you took home

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<v Speaker 3>a gold trophy I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't in hurdles, wasn't in one hundred meters sprint. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the Media week they called the next of

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<v Speaker 1>the Best awards, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate even saying that out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mediawig had like Industry Award, which is really nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's for like radio, TV, like all the front

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<v Speaker 1>of house kind of things, but then all the back

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<v Speaker 1>of house kind of stuff as well, production and sales

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<v Speaker 1>and literally everyone that's involved in media, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is really nice, A really big celebration with everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>works in the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I was nominated, so you get nominated, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was nominated a couple of months ago for Next

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<v Speaker 1>to the Best Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I was stoked and got nomination.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I was like, there's no fucking way

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<v Speaker 1>I would ever win, and long story short, I want.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I'm gonna say. But I'm really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely no.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I definitely didn't expect to win, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really nice. It was also really nice because

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Drury, who you guys all know and love as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's our radio co host and he won bronze, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was there as well for an award, but he

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<v Speaker 1>also presented me my award, so that was really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really nice to win an award and be

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<v Speaker 1>recognized for something that you love and you work really

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<v Speaker 1>hard for and you're passionate about. But then also to

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<v Speaker 1>be given the award by like one of your closest friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Is really cool as well. Yeah, this is all like

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<v Speaker 2>this is very lovey and very anything I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>win the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing I won was the Easter hat parade

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<v Speaker 1>when I was four years old, and all I got was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like extra streggs. This is a real moment. It really

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<v Speaker 2>is in making up for it. No, it's really care

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<v Speaker 2>that's definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely gonna put my award front sender next to

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<v Speaker 1>my Easter hat.

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<v Speaker 2>We're very proud of you, and I'm not surprised you won.

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<v Speaker 3>But even if you are well done, thanking big round

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<v Speaker 3>of appause.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason that I am sitting.

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<v Speaker 3>Here again today, apologies if you're getting sick of me,

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<v Speaker 3>is because our wonderful Laura ben She's a little busy

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<v Speaker 3>knocking people out on.

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<v Speaker 2>The ants floor.

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<v Speaker 1>So Laura, our lovely Laura Burnie is still on Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>with the Stars. Did you see the video she posted

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<v Speaker 1>where she chaoed her dance partner Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a behind the scenes video. Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't the footage that made me so alarmed?

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<v Speaker 3>It was the sound. It was because you know when

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<v Speaker 3>you slow down a video and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they did like it.

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<v Speaker 1>For anyone playing at home, go on to Laura's Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't seen her. She posted her behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes of her getting chaoed. Well, no, she chaoto her

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<v Speaker 1>dance partner. So they're they're practicing in the studio. She's

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<v Speaker 1>in this little black outfit and they're doing some I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the charter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they're practicing the charter.

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<v Speaker 1>And she did like a toil out and she went

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<v Speaker 1>to rapid fire toil in and a full on like

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<v Speaker 1>hook with elbow to have dance partner's cheekbone. He dropped

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<v Speaker 1>to the floor. He went flying like two minion dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the floor and you heard. I was like, surely she's

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<v Speaker 1>just broken this guy's face.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, dance stas is going really well for Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, I wouldn't fuck with Laura Hey after that video.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I used to think that you'd be the badass.

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<v Speaker 3>If ever I was in trouble and I needed someone

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<v Speaker 3>to like take someone out on the street, I really

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<v Speaker 3>would have put my money on you, but I'm revoting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to put Laura forward. No, I would still

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<v Speaker 1>put your money on me because she's so gangly. She

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<v Speaker 1>can't control the limbs. Her limbs go flying like.

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<v Speaker 2>But Laura is still on dancement stars, so we're all

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<v Speaker 2>rooting for her.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually do not know when it's airing, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know I can say it's soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's soon. It's probably we got to be

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<v Speaker 2>with the next month.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get in trouble for saying that because I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely don't know, and I haven't signed an NBA yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're really rooting for our girl over here. So

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<v Speaker 2>Keisha's on board. On the podcast, Kisha, you're actually lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to say the exact same. I'm surprised,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sitting here today, you are lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I let you back in that hot seat after

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you did to me last week?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're lucky because I have experienced some of

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<v Speaker 3>the most intense, hurtful trolling.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to deal with in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm of course talking about your stupid wallgate photos.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm calling this scenario. Now, it's a scandal.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a three weeks sagon. Now we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>this for three weeks. It's the issue that will not

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<v Speaker 3>go away because.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't let it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the issue of the photographs that I put on

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<v Speaker 1>my wall. We have mentioned the last three weeks in

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast so Yes. I printed out some photos of

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend and Ben and I and put them on

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<v Speaker 1>my wall, and Keisha had a problem with it. Laura

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<v Speaker 1>Burn had a problem with it. My friend Kim a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with a lot of people in my life seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to have had a problem with the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>am in love and put some photos.

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<v Speaker 2>On my wall. We did a video and it sort

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<v Speaker 2>of went viral. It went pretty big, got picked up

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<v Speaker 2>by some pretty big people. I think Vogue gonna talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to Vogue wanna Passion, not style, the merry condo

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<v Speaker 1>of not get what is it not sparking joy that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming next on Netflix. Vogue reached out to me and

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<v Speaker 1>they said, we saw the interior of your home and

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<v Speaker 1>we want to feature it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how believable was that?

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<v Speaker 3>So we put up a video, right, I reckon over

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<v Speaker 3>ninety percent of the comments and or messages that I

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<v Speaker 3>got that were not in the hate category. And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, I know that some of the messages I

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<v Speaker 3>got were like tongue in cheek taking the piss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Jasha wasn't actually trouble you life, as were

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<v Speaker 2>just fun trolling They were like, this is so mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave Brittany alone stuff believing Brittish she's newly in love.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, mate, I know that, but the

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<v Speaker 3>photos are too small, and this is what everyone kept

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<v Speaker 3>on bringing up with me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I agree with that, but don't you try and

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<v Speaker 2>bend the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not your problem, and we have video evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Your problem was that I shouldn't have printed photos out

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Now, when I got the photos, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>they're too small for the space.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree that is not the problem. But imagine, imagine

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<v Speaker 2>if I had made them bigger. What you would have done.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not just the size, as all of the.

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<v Speaker 3>People who messaged me mentioned, it is the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the Okay, So I didn't notice this at first,

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<v Speaker 2>only news comment on one day. I believe what I

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<v Speaker 2>said was it just looks weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird, and I've now got more evidence as to

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<v Speaker 3>why it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm five foot two, right, so I'm sure. And I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking at the photos kind of being like, they're really

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<v Speaker 3>high up on the wall, but maybe they're not high

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<v Speaker 3>up on the wall for someone who's a bit taller.

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<v Speaker 2>They're too high.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the size, it's the composition of the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>not all the one it goes like portrait, landscape portrait.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that on purpose. I thought it would be cute. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I picked my three favorite photos and one of them

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<v Speaker 2>was taken in landscape, so I worked with it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my rebuttal fucking court. Proceeding my rebuttal to the shrine

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<v Speaker 2>on the wall is I live in a rental. Believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not own a house in Bondi Beach. I

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<v Speaker 1>will never own a house in Bondi Beach, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But there were already holes in the wall. So I

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<v Speaker 2>worked with what I had, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I have tried to do the best I can with

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of love that I have left in this room.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is what I came up with, the wall

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<v Speaker 1>shrine of the semi professional photoshit that we didn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>book at the Louver, And I'm happy with it and

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. And a lot of people wrote to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually ninety percent of people in the poll said having

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<v Speaker 1>photos of yourself and your partner is fine. They only

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<v Speaker 1>said it was gonna be a problem if I had

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<v Speaker 1>three giant photos of myself on my wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I do not. I did not have one photo

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<v Speaker 2>of myself on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>I also asked Ben who is the subject of the

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<v Speaker 1>photo shoot?

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<v Speaker 2>And Ben thought it was very lovely. Of course he did.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the one who's in the pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>Get laid. He's like, it was amazing, he just laid.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be real. Anyway, Wargate saga, look faite.

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<v Speaker 3>The people came to defend you, okay, they they came

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<v Speaker 3>with their pitchforks fierce.

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<v Speaker 2>The one hashtag I wish took off was hashtag live

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<v Speaker 2>laugh Leave Brinillo, Like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was such a missed opportunity. Like years, I'm here for

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<v Speaker 1>the people. The people have spoken to Shrine.

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<v Speaker 2>He's okay. My most valued comment was just Shrine in

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<v Speaker 2>capital letters.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually even had if you were listened to the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Comedian Joanne McNally. She's the irishmedia we had on.

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<v Speaker 1>She's one of the hosts of My Therapist Ghosted Me,

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<v Speaker 1>a great podcast. She's so fucking funny. Anyway, she slipped

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<v Speaker 1>my damns and she's like, I am dead. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>stop laughing at this whole Shrine Wallgate and.

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<v Speaker 2>Made it to Ireland. The Shrine made it to Island.

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<v Speaker 3>Made you know girl Joanne mcnaly anyway, Man Island.

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<v Speaker 2>But speaking of shrines, this got me thinking I had

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<v Speaker 2>a friend. This wasn't not that long ago. I had

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<v Speaker 2>some friends. They live in the UK. They're guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What they did to their flatmates so their flatmate that

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys that live together, three guys. One

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<v Speaker 1>of their flatmates had this date that he was so

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<v Speaker 1>fucking chuffed about, like he was over the moon about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheek was a ten. He was like, I'm vibing, I'm connecting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this could be it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so serious about her.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the second date and he knew that he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to I shouldn't say kne was going to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep with it, but they were.

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<v Speaker 2>They were there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like he had said to the boys, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can clear out tonight, you know, like we're going to dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I got this lovely date. I reckon you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to spend good night with her in the

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<v Speaker 1>apartment alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Things could get a little hot. And also that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you do right when your flatmates and you live with people. Anyway, boys,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to clear out tonight. I got this hot date.

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<v Speaker 1>They agree, all yours mate, we're here for you. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to support you in your quest for love. So

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<v Speaker 1>he goes out on the date when his future wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do they go? Did they go to? What pub?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they? They went to dinner? No? They oh? The boys, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You just gotta leave. It's just the

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<v Speaker 2>rule of the flats, like and somewhere else to say

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<v Speaker 2>tonight party or whatever you want to do. Those walls

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<v Speaker 2>are paper Thin's true, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more like, of course they can come

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<v Speaker 1>back later in the night, but it's like to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>like it is their house. But it's more like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>give us the majority of the night and come back

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<v Speaker 1>and sleep when we're done.

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<v Speaker 2>And does it? So they agree.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, all Mat goes out in his date with

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<v Speaker 1>his ten future wife. The boys inadverted Commas go out

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<v Speaker 1>to the pub. But what they decided to do was

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<v Speaker 1>they printed off, like thirty photos of Princess.

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<v Speaker 2>Diana a shrine.

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<v Speaker 1>They printed off thirty photos of Princess Diana, got heaps

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<v Speaker 1>of candles and they put them in his room. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they put a shrine of Princess Diana with candles

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<v Speaker 1>and notes and like prints print offs of like magazines

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and they put it all through his room.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they left.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when he comes back from his date, it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>frisky and he's like, I'm going to lock this down.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes into his bedroom and she turns on the light

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a shrine of what would you do if

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<v Speaker 2>you were the girl? Would you imagine? You imagine what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Like, she's the people's princess. Okay, we all

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<v Speaker 2>love princess blocking on another level, like from the grave,

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<v Speaker 2>she's cock blocking. She's like, this ain't going down. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>like the more.

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<v Speaker 3>That you know in any of those scenarios when something

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<v Speaker 3>like that happens, the more you defend and try to justify, like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh this wasn't me, Like oh sorry, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>I promise, the more guilty you've seen, Like then you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even like her.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she's like I love princess. I like her,

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<v Speaker 2>but not enough to print off, not to have thirty

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<v Speaker 2>photos of her in my bed. Oh my god, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I do. I'd probably think I'd gone to the

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<v Speaker 2>effort together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably want to get laid, But then I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think i'd call him back, Like I think i'd commit

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<v Speaker 1>and go through with the deed, because you don't. You

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<v Speaker 1>reckon the second day, you're lying her you had a

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<v Speaker 1>nice dinner, probably some wine, and always says you're already there.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had a housemate stitch me up in a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a similar way to.

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<v Speaker 2>This, explain what you've got such a problem with. Try

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<v Speaker 2>the alarm bells are ringing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's a similar kind of embarrassing moment, but they

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<v Speaker 3>fucking got me really good.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had started.

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<v Speaker 3>Dating this musician and this is I'm talking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this must be seven eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was living in this apartment in Newcastle with

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<v Speaker 3>hilarious housemates. Right. So I'd started dating this musician and

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<v Speaker 3>I had told them, hey, just so you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>coming around tonight, just getting their heads up. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even ask them. I definitely didn't ask them to leave

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<v Speaker 3>the apartment. And maybe maybe that was my number one

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<v Speaker 3>mistake because just before he got there, one of my

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<v Speaker 3>housemates started playing their music through.

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<v Speaker 2>The speakers, right, the musicians music. Yes, So you know

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<v Speaker 2>they were kind of like, well does this get you

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<v Speaker 2>in the mood?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, And they were taking the piss, which was

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<v Speaker 3>all well and good until he I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 3>speaker it was. It must have been one attached to

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<v Speaker 3>like something in the lounge room or that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're talking seven or eight years ago, so I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember them.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a giant binbox six pe.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember how it was played anyway, So music

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<v Speaker 3>goes off, he comes over. It's all you know, It's

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<v Speaker 3>gone great until like I was having a drink of

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<v Speaker 3>wine on the couch. We were just catching up and

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<v Speaker 3>I went to put some music on and I just

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<v Speaker 3>hit on and out plays his music.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, so the music was off when he got there.

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<v Speaker 3>He was off, but it was like loaded in when

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<v Speaker 3>you press it on it It's like kind of when

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<v Speaker 3>you get back in your car and whatever was playing

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<v Speaker 3>most recently starts starts playing. You're like, I would have

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<v Speaker 3>preferred porn had to start playing, because I just looked

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<v Speaker 3>like such a fucking fangirl. I was like, I'm seriously

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<v Speaker 3>over Housebaates like they just you know, they were listening.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably turned him on.

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<v Speaker 1>Most musicians are so godlike complex, they won't people would

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<v Speaker 1>be listening to.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope that that didn't turn him on. You

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<v Speaker 2>probably get you paid for dinner. Every time his truck

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<v Speaker 2>gets played, he gets money from it, just getting his streams. Babe,

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<v Speaker 2>I supporting the cause I had this other friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this was years ago, but it's just make him

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<v Speaker 1>you think back another friend that did a similar thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys. Again, it's always guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I know any girls has cooked their

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<v Speaker 1>friends same thing. Hot date was coming back to the apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>so they went and bought. They must have just gone

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<v Speaker 1>to like Kmart or something. They went bought fifty stuffed

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<v Speaker 1>small toys and put them on his bed.

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<v Speaker 2>So that when he comes home on the date, like

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting freaky, legs arerapped around the waist.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, your barge in to plunk on the bed

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't lay down, and you sit down, all

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<v Speaker 1>these teddies jump up like it's on a trampoline. They

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<v Speaker 1>go everywhere, fifty stuffed teddies of all everything, all Australian animals,

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<v Speaker 1>native animals.

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<v Speaker 3>They would it be worse if it was all of

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<v Speaker 3>the one type, all different?

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<v Speaker 1>No, And so she thought he had a stuffed toy collection,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I don't know how to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Not heat a yucky, yum, I have stuff toy one one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>If there is a guy in his thirties that has

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<v Speaker 1>a bedroom of stuff toys.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yucky and yum, but there's alarm bells for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, I have did a guy that has

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<v Speaker 2>those you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Those like figurines with the big bubble head things.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually called, but I went into his room and they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, I'm not exaggerating more than fifty and put

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<v Speaker 3>them in air bondies as collectibles, and it was a

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<v Speaker 3>bit weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You still slept with tast more than that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did find it a little a little strange. What would

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<v Speaker 2>you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like, seriously, you've gone back to your guy's house.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say it was the shrine or fifty stuff toys.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you do? Am I the age that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at now? This weekend's Friday night. When you're in your.

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<v Speaker 3>Early twenties, you like, they breathe in the wrong direction,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, nope, that's an equal.

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<v Speaker 2>When you get into your third a lot more slides right.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, I'm pretty sure he's a stalker and showing

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen red flags on the first meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>He just really cares about it, like it depends on

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<v Speaker 2>how hot they are. If it does, if he's an eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's Zac Efron, I'm probably gonna say you play on.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really care how many stuff toys, zach Efron.

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<v Speaker 2>I will role play as a stuff point with a

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<v Speaker 2>cut off this dress. Zack. All do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys have a story like this writing, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have stitched somebody up like this, or like a

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<v Speaker 1>flat mate or some or a friend, or they've stitched

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<v Speaker 1>you up, please write in because I reckon this will

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<v Speaker 1>be brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would absolutely love to read your prank stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of love, I met I'm not saying you're in love,

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<v Speaker 1>but I met Keisha's boyfriend Tom Blarone.

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<v Speaker 2>I met Todd Blaroon. That's a bit of a stretch

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<v Speaker 2>in real life. What did you think?

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<v Speaker 1>He's exactly what I thought he'd be. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard because I feel like I already knew him because

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<v Speaker 1>I've face timed him quite a few times. So Kisha

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<v Speaker 1>and I have this relationship with each other's partners where

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<v Speaker 1>we just all facetimed. No one knows each other, no

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<v Speaker 1>one's real we're all just facetiming from a distance.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're talking to a closed quad polyamorous family today

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast brilliantly maybe early stages. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm sexually attracted to Ben. I find him attractive

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<v Speaker 3>in the sense that I'm like, I can recognize he

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<v Speaker 3>is hot, and I know you're listening to this, so like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a great looking guy. Do I find you sexually attractive? No,

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<v Speaker 3>because you're my best friend slash boss's partner.

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<v Speaker 2>I also wonder like, should I be offended by.

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<v Speaker 4>That?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to root you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want your friends to want to bang your boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>not actually do it, but just like to recognize it

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<v Speaker 1>they're hold Or do you want them to not find

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<v Speaker 1>his attractive?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm sort of like, what's wrong with him? Then, Keisha,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Make I feel confident enough want to bang my boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel confident enough to say that if I were

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<v Speaker 3>to meet Ben none of us knew who he was,

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<v Speaker 3>and I met him at a bar down the street,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd find him very hot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, you're a ride.

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<v Speaker 3>But now because I know him and I also know

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<v Speaker 3>him as your partner. Nothing could be more repulsive. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm clenching right now, I'm clenching all of my orifices.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, you're clenching your vagina close in case he

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<v Speaker 2>actually walks into You've never got to be worried about it.

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<v Speaker 2>What I will say is I really like him. I've

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<v Speaker 2>given him the tick of approval. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>bang him? That was the next question. Do you no?

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like we already share, Delilah, we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>halfway into this polyamory. Yeah, we are almost closed quad.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for the Daily Mail headline pretty ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you do want your friends, it's always nice. You

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<v Speaker 1>want your friends to be with good people and you

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<v Speaker 1>want them to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's nothing worse. I mean, there is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things worse, but it's up there. Nothing worse than

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<v Speaker 2>like when your friend he's like, hey, I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to meet when your boyfriend and there just like a

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<v Speaker 2>dick and they're they're rude and they don't treat people nicely, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't vibe it. There's nothing worse because you're always

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pretend to vibe it. But I don't pretend to

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<v Speaker 1>vibe to blown.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a great guy. Yeah, I'm tim to blow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big thing because I used to like crunches,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I'm too tu blowing do blow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking over.

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<v Speaker 3>We have got a really funny accidentally unfiltered that came

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<v Speaker 3>in that I would love.

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<v Speaker 2>To share with you. Hit me.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I am missing accidentally unfiltered. If you

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<v Speaker 3>guys have any really good ones, can you please send

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<v Speaker 3>them in. We've decided to only do them every now

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<v Speaker 3>and then now because we didn't want to overcook the

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<v Speaker 3>good stuff. Okay, so here it goes it reads. So

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<v Speaker 3>when I was eighteen, I decided to go on a kentikie.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents, especially my mom, and I are very open

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<v Speaker 3>to talking about sex and everything like that, which is

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<v Speaker 3>great most of the time. As I finished packing, my

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<v Speaker 3>mum gave me the debrief that went something like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just do whatever you want on your holiday, but make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that you're safe. I'll buy you a pack of

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<v Speaker 3>condoms just in case you get into that situation. The

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<v Speaker 3>mom supportive. I like this, she's making sure that a

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<v Speaker 3>daughter thing, you know, safe. My dad overhears the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>decides he wants to be helpful, goes to his room,

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<v Speaker 3>comes out and says, here, I have three left.

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<v Speaker 2>Take these. Oh my god, I'm not sure what.

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<v Speaker 3>Is worth your dad giving you the condoms or saying

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<v Speaker 3>that he has only three lefts?

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<v Speaker 2>So is it equal time? No dad going, dad support

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<v Speaker 2>to go? No mom, I'll go and get my own condoms.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I get this a support.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're old enough to you're having sex, you're

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<v Speaker 1>old enough to get your own condoms. You don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to get your frang off from your dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh they're pretty expensive. I wouldn't mind a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>freebies from your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he's like, oh i'm a bit short, I've

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<v Speaker 2>only got this one left. I've only got three left.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the minimum they come in is like packs

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<v Speaker 2>of ten extra lance. You know, if they were like

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<v Speaker 2>the rib Yeah, the ribbed condoms make a difference. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever felt one?

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<v Speaker 1>They don't make a difference. I don't even imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>he knew them anymore. I think they're out of action.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, I've never experienced any of the like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is meant to be better for her pleasure on

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<v Speaker 3>although the looped ones are better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think the ribbed ones. The problem was

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<v Speaker 1>it was giving men like a false sense of security.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they put the condom on and they thought half

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<v Speaker 1>the job was done. They're like, oh yeah, better, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>You's some so much confidence. You're like, no, bro, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>work like that. All right, Well that's enough of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into the chat with Taya and Alicia. So

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<v Speaker 2>we are lucky enough to have Taya and Alicia with

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<v Speaker 2>us today. Guys, welcome to Life on CAD.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having us.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you both coming to us from?

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<v Speaker 5>We're in Oregon, Lemanon, Oregon. We're about two hours outside

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<v Speaker 5>of Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>I stumbled across your story online because you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty viral at the moment. You've got a big TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>account and I've seen quite a few interviews going around,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just so intrigued by your story. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really looking forward to getting into today. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with who you both were before you met, So

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<v Speaker 1>who you were in your couple. So, Taya, did you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go first? What was your situation?

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<v Speaker 5>Like? Sure, I am married to Sean and we got

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<v Speaker 5>married in twenty seventeen, so we'd been married for two

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<v Speaker 5>years before we met Tyler and Alisha and had been

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<v Speaker 5>together since twenty fifteen, and we were living closer to

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<v Speaker 5>the Portland area, so about two hours side of where

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<v Speaker 5>we are now, which is where Tyler and Alisha are from.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your relationship like we've shown at that time?

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<v Speaker 2>He were you guys as a couple.

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<v Speaker 5>We didn't have any kids previous to meeting Tyler and Alisha,

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<v Speaker 5>and we met through work, so we were kind of

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<v Speaker 5>both workaholics at the time. We spent most of our

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<v Speaker 5>time together through work, and life had kind of started.

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<v Speaker 5>We both got new jobs separately, and life had kind

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<v Speaker 5>of started to slow down for us. We were working security,

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<v Speaker 5>so we worked a lot of nights and weekends and

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<v Speaker 5>life started to slow down a little bit, and so

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<v Speaker 5>it kind of changed our ability to spend more time

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<v Speaker 5>together doing other things outside of work, and that changed

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<v Speaker 5>our dynamic a little bit and allowed us to go

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<v Speaker 5>out and have a little bit more fun overall. So

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<v Speaker 5>that was really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>And how about you and Tyler Alisha?

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<v Speaker 4>So, Tyler and I have been together since two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and seven. We got married twenty twelve. So when we

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<v Speaker 4>met Sean Taya, we were just about seven years married,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have two kids prior to meeting them, and

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<v Speaker 4>at the time, let me think if if I can

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<v Speaker 4>remember their ages, right, I think they were four.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, I want my kids' names again.

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<v Speaker 4>And Tyler and I had been kind of into the

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<v Speaker 4>swinger community before we had kids, so like seven years

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<v Speaker 4>prior to that, before we got married, and then we

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<v Speaker 4>kind of settled down and did life for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, got a house and had kids, and we

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<v Speaker 4>were at the point where we didn't want to have

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<v Speaker 4>any more kids and we're just like, yeah, let's explore again.

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<v Speaker 4>And we ended up matching with Shan and Taya on

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<v Speaker 4>an app and they were the first couple that we

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<v Speaker 4>matched with and then ended up going on a date

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<v Speaker 4>with and falling in love.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so what were the reasons for you, both individually

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<v Speaker 1>and your relationships that you decided to start swinging? So, Alicia,

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<v Speaker 1>you had said that you guys had done it for

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<v Speaker 1>quite a long time and it was obviously just for

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<v Speaker 1>some excitement in your life. Yeah, what was it for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, tare because it was your first time swinging.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we had gone to like a local club in

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<v Speaker 5>Portland and we had been on apps, probably about six

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<v Speaker 5>months before we met Tayler and Alisha, And for us,

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<v Speaker 5>it was just I'm quite a bit younger than Sean,

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<v Speaker 5>so it was just about life experiences and I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to experience all of life with him and the place

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<v Speaker 5>that we had gotten to in our relationship. We had

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<v Speaker 5>built a lot of trust up and it was fun

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about other people and flirt with other people,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just a unique experience to have those conversations

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<v Speaker 5>with your partner. And so those kind of conversations quickly

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<v Speaker 5>turned into exploring apps and going out and meeting new people,

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<v Speaker 5>and so it was quick where our conversations turned into actions,

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose. And we didn't meet a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people before meeting Tyler Alicia, but we had kind of

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<v Speaker 5>just dipped a toe into the community.

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<v Speaker 2>When you met each other.

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<v Speaker 3>So when your two couples met, was this something that

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<v Speaker 3>you identified as like particularly special about that connection.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it was necessarily like when we met,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was more we started talking and then five

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<v Speaker 4>days later we actually met up in Portland at a

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<v Speaker 4>really cool event that they were holding up there, and

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<v Speaker 4>the talking leading up to that. It was really interesting

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<v Speaker 4>because Sean and I are really similar in our personality styles,

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<v Speaker 4>and Taya and Tyler are really similar their personality styles.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was kind of weird, just like this guy's

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<v Speaker 4>like in my head, like I feel like he is me,

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<v Speaker 4>And there was just a very very different dynamic than

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<v Speaker 4>what I was used to, and so it was just

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<v Speaker 4>really intriguing to like want to know more about them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have never I mean, do we say swung? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>telling me I've never.

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<v Speaker 1>Been to any swinging event, mainly because I can't get

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship to then go to swing.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got a.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationship now, it's fine, But can you go to a

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<v Speaker 1>swinger's event and just swing with one person? Or is

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<v Speaker 1>it always a couple going and meeting another couple? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are there these sort of rules at these events?

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<v Speaker 4>No, there's tons of different dynamics and it's really up

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<v Speaker 4>to every individual couple and what their boundaries are, what

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<v Speaker 4>their hopes are and desires, And of course, when you

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<v Speaker 4>go to an event, it's not necessarily guaranteed that you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna connect or hook up with anyone, honestly, And Tyler

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<v Speaker 4>and I when we did it seven years ago, it

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<v Speaker 4>was for like maybe six months, so I think that

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<v Speaker 4>our experiences are pretty equal in the amount of time

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<v Speaker 4>we've actually spent in that community, because then again, seven

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<v Speaker 4>years later, when we met Shaanaya, they were literally the

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<v Speaker 4>only people that we talked to and connected with. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it just depends on your own dynamics and what you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking for to go to those events. But there's also

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<v Speaker 4>apps and stuff too, So it's like we didn't go

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<v Speaker 4>to a swinger's event, we matched with them and decided

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<v Speaker 4>to go on like a date.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I think there's two things about that. So one,

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<v Speaker 5>Sehn and I originally were just looking for another female.

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<v Speaker 5>There's part of like just my sexuality exploring that and

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<v Speaker 5>exploring that with my partner in like a safe space

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<v Speaker 5>that was a huge positive for me in this situation.

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<v Speaker 5>We quickly learned that they're called unicorns for a reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Single females are not really I mean, they exist obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>because triads exist, and they are out there, but they

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<v Speaker 5>are called unicorns for a reason. They're hard to find.

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<v Speaker 5>So we quickly learned that there are a lot more

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<v Speaker 5>couples out there that are looking for similar situations, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's unique in the sense that like there's people who

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<v Speaker 5>are looking to stay together with all four of them,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's people who are looking to be in separate

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<v Speaker 5>rooms and kind of like swap for the night. So

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<v Speaker 5>there's different dynamics across the board. And the good thing

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<v Speaker 5>about the community is everybody is really whether it's swinging

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<v Speaker 5>or polyamory, everybody's really open and communicative and honest and

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<v Speaker 5>really just honestly. You have to be really straightforward about

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<v Speaker 5>what you're looking for, so that kind of helps narrow

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<v Speaker 5>things down.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go to these swingers events and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you guys said you met on an app, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you do go to a swingers event, does it turn

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<v Speaker 1>into a form of sex club? So do you go

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<v Speaker 1>to the event and there are rooms at the event

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<v Speaker 1>and you hook up there or is it more of

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<v Speaker 1>an event that you go to that's a bar or

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere to just make the meeting and then you guys

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<v Speaker 1>go away separately and do your thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's both. The club that's in Portland, which I

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<v Speaker 5>think they had previously gone to, it just was owned

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<v Speaker 5>by somebody else, so they had rolled over and a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit different of an experience with the same concept

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<v Speaker 5>where the first floor is like a club, there's dance

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<v Speaker 5>floor and food and a bar and all that, and

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<v Speaker 5>then later in the night the upstairs opens and that's

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<v Speaker 5>where there's closed rooms or open spaces on the third floor,

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<v Speaker 5>so each floor kind of has a different experience and

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<v Speaker 5>you can stay on the club level all night long.

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<v Speaker 5>And honestly, like since we've been together, we've gone just

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<v Speaker 5>the four of us just for fun, because the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 5>is a blast. It's lots of open minded people. It's

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 5>positive just in general, like body positive and sex positive

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<v Speaker 5>and whatever else. But it's just a really fun atmosphere

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 5>you can go. I mean the times that Sean and

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<v Speaker 5>I went when it was just us too, we never

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<v Speaker 5>even hooked up with anybody else at the club, so

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<v Speaker 5>it was usually somebody we'd met on an app. But

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<v Speaker 5>the club in general was just a fun place to

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<v Speaker 5>for like open minded people to kind of meet up.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you guys went on a date. How did

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<v Speaker 3>things go from like this first initial date to moving

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 3>in together?

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 5>So how they went that fast?

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, yeah, So we met up in Portland and

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 4>we had gotten an airbnb so that we could spend

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 4>the night together. And before we were leaving from that

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 4>night that we spent together. We were already making plans

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 4>for the next weekend and tell us my kids were

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 4>going on camping with the grandparents. So we're like, hey,

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, we can save money if you guys want

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 4>to come down the Lebanon and see what it's like

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 4>in our small rural community. And they came down and

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 4>again before they left, we were making plans again, and

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 4>so it just kind of progressed in that very natural

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 4>way of like we realized we weren't really wanting to

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 4>look for anybody else, Like we deleted our apps and

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 4>we're just like, we kind of like this that we

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 4>have going on. And then it was Sean and I

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 4>that actually kind of developed feelings or admitted our feelings

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 4>for each other. First I was talking to him, and

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 4>I think him or I one of us said that, like,

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 4>I feel like you're my girlfriend or I feel like

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 4>you're my boyfriend. And I'm like, yeah, I feel like

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 4>that too. Is that weird? Because none of us knew

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 4>what polyamory was. We didn't know what a quad was,

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 4>we didn't know any of these terms, and that was

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 4>not something that we were looking for. So the more

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 4>we were kind of catching feelings for each other. Then

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 4>we started looking into what that meant, and honestly, Tyler

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 4>and Taya were a little bit more reserved in their

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 4>feelings or admitting them. So Shawn and I kind of

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 4>gave them a push and said, I remember talking with

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Tyler and saying, like, it's okay to like her more

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 4>than a friend. It's okay that you have feelings for her,

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 4>like if you love her like. It felt like one

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 4>of those things where you shouldn't admit that you have

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 4>those kind of feelings when you're in a monogamous, married relationship.

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I actually think that has a lot to do

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 2>with how we're being socially conditioned.

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like absolutely, we're kind of taught that if you

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 3>fall in love with someone, you're not going to fall

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 3>in love with someone else.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 2>But that's not necessarily the case.

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of just what has been drilled into us

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 3>because it's kind of norm in society. So at that

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 3>time that you realized that you had feelings for each other,

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>was there a part of you that struggle with the

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 3>idea of telling your partner, like, hey, just so you know, like,

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I do have these feelings of love for someone else,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't necessarily detract from the love that I

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 3>have for you, Like, how did you kind of navigate that?

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 4>I think Sean and I kind of talked about talking

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 4>to Taya and Tyler about that situation and letting them

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 4>know it's okay, so that they could admit their feelings

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 4>to each other as well. Yeah, not giving them permission,

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 4>but having that open conversation that like, this isn't wrong.

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's very obvious, Like we all were very on

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 5>board with wanting to spend more and more time together.

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 5>We were talking twenty four to seven when we weren't together,

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 5>like Sean and I would drop everything and drive down

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 5>just to spend a couple hours together in the evening,

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 5>driving two hours there and then getting up early to

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 5>drive home because we just wanted to spend all of

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 5>our free time together. So it's very obvious. So we

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 5>all had feelings for each other, but Tyler and I

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 5>were like, no, no, that's not what I now.

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with you. I talk to you all the time,

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to see you, but nah, it was.

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 5>Very middle school. I even remember Sean being like you

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 5>like him, you love him.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, uh no, I know when I

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>listen to this I guess this is probably a worry

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that most monogamous couples that do want to try swinging

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 2>or do you want to try a threesome, this is

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.959
<v Speaker 2>the worry that they have, what if my partner develops

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 2>feelings for that person? And I guess for most people,

0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>We all know that there's no relationship, right. I mean,

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that's why we want to speak to you, because we

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>want to really highlight that. But you guys are definitely

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>an anomaly. It's pretty unusual to swing or have a

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>threesome and then all fall in love like that is

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>definitely rare.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Most couples would be like holy shit.

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.959
<v Speaker 1>But in your relationship it sort of was tenfold because

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Taya your I think you mentioned before you're bisexual. Alisha,

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>are you or were you only looking more for males

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to have these.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Experience with I am straight. There are times that I

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 4>will interact with the woman and t and I have

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 4>interacted and stuff in you know, more of an intimate way.

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 4>But I think women are a beautiful, But I just

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't have that same sexual attraction towards women with.

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 3>The sexual aspect of it, like in your experience, do

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 3>you think that polyamorous relationships are more about sexual connection,

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 3>or do you think that they're more about emotional connection.

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 4>It can definitely be both. I mean ours started as

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 4>a physical attraction and then it developed into the emotional attraction.

0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think it needs to be one way

0:33:59.920 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 4>or the other.

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Do you think that's a bit of a misconception that

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people have about polyamorous relationship.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I think people assume that we were

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 5>unhappy in our marriage. They assume that our spouse is

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 5>weren't enough for us. There's all kinds of things. There's

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 5>assume more sexual deviance and when really our relationship has

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 5>no more to do with sex than a monogamous relationship does.

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 5>Truly like it has nothing more other than we sleep

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 5>with a different person every other night. But I think

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:30.720
<v Speaker 5>that polyamory in general is primarily about emotional connection, whereas

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 5>swinging is more physical. I think that polyamory is it

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 5>means quite literally many loves, So there's going to be

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 5>a romantic side of things. But every relationship is and

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 5>dynamic is so different. You could have a friends with

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 5>benefits and it's a friend type of love. It could

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 5>be a non romantic type of love and still be sexual,

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 5>if that makes sense. So there's a lot of like

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:55.240
<v Speaker 5>kind of relationship anarchy in polyamory where they just don't

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 5>follow the normal relationship escalator, and so you can see

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 5>all kinds of dynamics that focus on all kinds of

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 5>different things.

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 3>When things got a little bit more serious between you guys,

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 3>did you kind of openly tell the people in your

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 3>life that that's where things were headed? Did you keep

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 3>it a bit of a secret for a while, And

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess, like, how did they respond to that information?

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 4>We definitely kept it quiet for quite a while. And

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 4>there's so many rules and stuff that we thought we

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 4>had in place when we first started back into that

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 4>sort of lifestyle, and one of them was that, you know,

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 4>these people are never going to meet our kids. And

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 4>within a few weeks they were telling us how excited

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 4>they were to meet our kids, and so that didn't

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 4>take very long for us to introduce them to the kids.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 4>And then once we realized that this wasn't just a

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 4>temporary hookup type of thing and that we were actually

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 4>wanted to be in a relationship, and I was calling

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Seawn my boyfriend, Tay and Tyler had admitted their feelings.

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 4>We kind of got to the point where we needed

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 4>to start telling people. Sean had mentioned, you know, the

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 4>idea of moving in together, since we did live two

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 4>hours apart, and that was around four or five months

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 4>into the relationship, and Tyler and I were looking to

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 4>purchase another house and we decided maybe we should look

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 4>for one that's going to be big enough for all

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 4>of us, so the idea of us all living together,

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 4>we had to tell people. It took me a long

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 4>time to put myself out there, just because I really

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 4>worry about what other people think of me and the

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 4>acceptance and judgment and stuff, and just being a very

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 4>public facing job that I'm in, Like, are people not

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 4>going to want to work with me because of my

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 4>lifestyle because it looks so different. And we definitely got

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 4>some mixed reactions from family and friends, a lot of

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 4>people that just didn't get it at all, a lot

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 4>of people that were concerned about our children and wanting

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 4>to make sure that they were treated right and not

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 4>that they were neglected or anything like that. But they're

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 4>just like, well, if you're bringing new people into your life,

0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 4>you better make sure that they're kind to the kids

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 4>and the kids are treated right, and we're not going

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 4>to bring people into our life that we don't think

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 4>to treat our kids well. Well.

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>It's also in a way, it's no different to a

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.919
<v Speaker 1>couple that have kids that break up and they start

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>dating different partners. You're still bring someone else into that

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>child's life.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah. And for the people who were supportive of us,

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 5>there was still a concern overall of like, we don't

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 5>want anyone getting hurt. I know that that was the

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.919
<v Speaker 5>same thing with my family, like, yeah, this is great,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad you're happy, but I'm scared for you because

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 5>it's different and we've never seen it before and we

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.280
<v Speaker 5>don't really get it, you know. So I think that overall,

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 5>like even the support the people who supported us before

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.280
<v Speaker 5>they had really seen it in action, they were worried.

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I think naturally as humans like we can be adverse

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 3>to change, like we can. It can make us feel anxious,

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 3>it can make us feel uncomfortable if we're in any

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 3>situation that is a bit new to us. How did

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 3>your kids respond to all of you moving in together, Like,

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 3>did they adapt well to that?

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 4>They did? They had gotten used to Shantaea being around

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 4>quite a bit, and so when we talked about moving

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 4>into this new house, we asked them, like, what do

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:47.800
<v Speaker 4>you guys think about Shawna Ta moving into And they're like, yeah,

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 4>that's awesome, that sounds great. Like they just had gotten

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 4>used to Shantea being a part of our life, and

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.319
<v Speaker 4>so to them there was not even a question about it.

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 4>There's like, okay, cool more people.

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing with kids too, there's such a

0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 1>level of innocence that they say, this is how it is,

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>like mom and mom and dad and dad, and we

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>all love each other and this is what my family is.

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Like there is our judgment.

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they were honestly just young enough I think, in

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 5>my opinion to really start talking about relationship dynamics anyways,

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 5>and what's out there. You know, you can be monogamous,

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 5>you can be polyamorous, and some people love one person

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 5>and some people love multiple people, and some people don't

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 5>choose to be in romantic relationships at all. So the

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.959
<v Speaker 5>timing of being able to kind of like I live

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 5>our truth along with having those conversations was I think

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 5>it was a good time to be able to start

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 5>those conversations with them, and like I remember the first

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 5>time we did something as like a family and going

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 5>out to the zoo together, and it just was really easy.

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 5>And that's kind of how it always was in the

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 5>beginning with all of us. It's the other people that

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 5>made it difficult, right, Like, there are definitely speed bumps

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 5>that we had to work through in our relationship, but

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 5>it's definitely a society that tends to make these things difficult.

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Did the kids understand when you all moved in together?

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Did they understand and did you explain that you were

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>moving eat together as a family or did they just

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>think like mom and Dad's friends a movie?

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Nane, What was the sort of explanation then?

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 4>I actually, like, for the longest time, didn't want to

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 4>give Sean a kiss or like hold his hand or

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 4>anything in front of the kids. It's like, oh, what

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 4>are they going to think? And it really surprised me

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 4>that they were just totally okay with whatever was happening

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 4>and the like, they didn't really have much of a reaction.

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 4>And it was actually after we were all living together,

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 4>Sean had said to me, He's like, they know that

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 4>you're my girlfriend, they know I'm your boyfriend. I'm like,

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 4>do they And so I asked our oldest and I said,

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 4>who is Sean to me? And he just turned around.

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 4>He's like, Oh, that's your boyfriend, like he knew it.

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know if they quite got that when

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 4>we moved in together, but we never really sat them

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 4>down to have that conversation in the terms of like

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:43.919
<v Speaker 4>actual titles.

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't think we anticipated co parenting at the

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:51.720
<v Speaker 5>level that we are at now. Like obviously we anticipated

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 5>being active participants in their lives and being parental figures,

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 5>but I don't think we anticipated being as blended as

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 5>we are now where we Like, we didn't initially play

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 5>on having more kids together. We didn't plan, so these

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 5>things we kind of work through as time went on,

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 5>and the kids were just very adaptable in every situation

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 5>that we've kind of come across, and there's just been

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 5>a lot of love and fluidity throughout it.

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's so interesting to me what you say

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 3>about kids being adaptable. I've got a friend who grew

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 3>up with two moms and we're nearly thirty, so it

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 3>wasn't as common back then to have two moms, and

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people as we've gotten older have asked him, like,

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 3>were you bullied for it were you picked on? And

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 3>he pretty often says like I was never bullied by kids,

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 3>because like kids are like sponges, they just take on

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 3>any information that you give them. You know, he would

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 3>just be like I've got two moms and they go okay,

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 3>like you know, that's cool, Like do you want to

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 3>come and play on the playground. He would kind of

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 3>say that it was more when kids got to the

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 3>age that they would start taking on the opinions of

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 3>their more conservative or potentially judgmental parents. That's when he

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 3>experienced a little bit more judgment Has that been the

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 3>case you, Has it been the people that you know

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 3>a bit more of like society that maybe don't know

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 3>you as well, that have experienced it, or have the

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 3>kids experienced a form of bullying because of this?

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 4>The kids have never said anything about any of their

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 4>friends or peer groups bullying them, or honestly saying anything

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 4>about our relationship. I love the story that involves Taya's

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 4>cousin that we were at a birthday party for their

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 4>grandpa and our daughter was explaining to her that She's like, yeah,

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 4>I have two moms and two dads, and it's just

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 4>was just a normal conversation for her, and there.

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 5>Was this she was like, oh okay, yeah, yeah.

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 4>And then they went and played the game together, like

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Who's who.

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 5>Her father has not been a supporter of ours, So

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 5>for us, it was like kind of validating to see her.

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 5>They're close in age, and it was kind of validating

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 5>to see our daughter go up to her and say, oh, yeah,

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 5>I've got two moms and two dads and she was like,

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 5>oh cool. Couldn't have cared less, you know, moved right

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 5>on past it.

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I have heard her explain more to adult than it

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.919
<v Speaker 4>is to other kids that she has, Like she'll refer

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 4>to Toy as her stepmom sometimes, and she'll refer to

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 4>Sean as a stepdad, just because that's an easier term

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 4>for people to understand. And the fact that our seven

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 4>year old has to put it in those terms for

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 4>the adults to understand what this relationship is really speaks volumes.

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And so you just said that your family member that

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a supporter of you, you know, the daughter was

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 1>in that story. Who are the people in your family

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that you may have lost or had a bit of

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a conflict with over this situation.

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, speaking of the other kids. We've had

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 5>quite a few people in the beginning, a lot of

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 5>their friends especially like what am I supposed to tell

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 5>my kids? Like how am I supposed to explain this

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 5>to them? And that's something that we actively speak a

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 5>lot on our social media now because it's like the

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 5>education about being able to speak about relationship dynamics and

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 5>not sexualize them is so important because because there are

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 5>so many different dynamics. There are people who have divorced

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 5>parents or people whose parents are remarried and they do

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 5>have two moms and two dads, they just don't live

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 5>in the same household. And so the fact that that

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 5>and in those dynamics where those people are co parenting

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 5>together is praised, and ours is you know, said to

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 5>be disgusting or confusing or whatever it may be. It's

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 5>a hard pill to swallow. I guess sometimes it doesn't

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 5>quite make sense to me. But I have a couple

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 5>of uncles who just honestly, they haven't really given there

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 5>was no conversation, there was no opportunity to kind of

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 5>meet my partners. And see, I think that that's the

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 5>problem when people aren't willing to give it a chance

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 5>and kind of see what we're about, or even learn

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 5>and educate themselves on what it is or what it

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 5>could be. And the ignorance really kind of is what

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.240
<v Speaker 5>leads their decision making.

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>In terms of finances, we get a lot of questions

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 2>from people that write in and say, how do you

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 2>share finances in a relationship?

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, do we pay fifty to fifty? Do we

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>put x amount into a joint account? Do we keep

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>our own account separate? Who pays for what they earn

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:49.320
<v Speaker 1>more than me?

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Am?

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I supposed to meet them halfway? All these sorts of questions,

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>But you guys have got that double How do you

0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>manage your finances in a relationship with four of you

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>that I'm making an assumption all four of you own

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>different salaries.

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's something that we actually struggled with for quite

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 4>a while, and it was just in January of this

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.799
<v Speaker 4>year that we decided to all combine our finances and

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 4>kind of come together. And it kind of stemmed from

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 4>the idea that Taya's a stay at home mom. She

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have any income unless she, you know, makes extra

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 4>on Instagram or TikTok or something, and like that's not

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 4>fair to her that she can't save for something because

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 4>she doesn't have that stream of income. So it made

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 4>sense financially for all of us just to combine our

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 4>funds and have conversations over what our household needs and

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:36.920
<v Speaker 4>if there's any big purchases, make sure that we're all

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 4>on the same page about it. But then also, like, okay,

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 4>what makes sense. After all said and done, all of

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:43.720
<v Speaker 4>our bills are paid, all of our fund stuff is paid,

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 4>we should to like have a little bit of money

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 4>that we can all decide to do what we want

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.319
<v Speaker 4>to on our own. And whether that be saving or

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 4>doing something special for yourself, or going out and buying.

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Something and going to a spa or whatever.

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly. So it's like when all the needs are

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.479
<v Speaker 4>covered and then we each have like our own little

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 4>allowance that we can choose to do what we want

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 4>with that. You want to get an extra snack, you

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 4>want to go get your Starbucks coffee or something, then

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 4>that comes out of your allowance versus out of our

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 4>joint account. And there's no secret to this is the

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 4>way that you should do it or could do it.

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 4>It's just something that we are trying and has worked

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 4>for us so far.

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's been a new endeavor for us, like she said,

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 5>but allowing us all to have the same amount. It

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 5>was working through like, Okay, obviously some of us make

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 5>more than others, and how do we navigate like not

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:34.320
<v Speaker 5>pulling rank or I make this much choice, she'd be

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 5>able to spend this much more so the allowances, having

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 5>even allowances across the board. We all get so much

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.720
<v Speaker 5>money a month just kind of levels the playing field

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 5>for us. And then we talk about big purchases as

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 5>a group.

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 3>I love that growing up for me in my situation,

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 3>my dad was, you know, the dad that went.

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Off to work. Mom looked after the kids, Mom did

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.720
<v Speaker 2>all of the mental load of our schedules. She always

0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 2>knew where dad was, you know, when he was traveling

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.359
<v Speaker 2>for work, et cetera. How does it work with you guys?

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you have like a home manager?

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Like does that fall naturally in someone's camp where one

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 3>person knows what everyone's work schedules are when you need

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 3>to get groceries, those kinds of things.

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 2>How does it work for you guys?

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Well, Sean and I are more of the planners. It

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 4>depends on the thing when it comes to the mental load,

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 4>like I had already had, Dylan and Rena coming into

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 4>this relationship, so I kind of met that traditional mom

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 4>role of the mental load of scheduling the doctor's appointments

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 4>and this and that, and getting to share some of

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.279
<v Speaker 4>that with Taya has been awesome. But we have a

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.399
<v Speaker 4>shared calendar and so like if you have something that's

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 4>coming up, she's making her baby appointments and stuff, and

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 4>she you know, looks in the calendar and make sure like, Okay,

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 4>nobody else has something else going on this time, I'm

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.359
<v Speaker 4>going to schedule it for this and then we all

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 4>get a notification when it comes up. We have our

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 4>shared grocery lists on there. Taya and Tyler like to

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 4>go grocery shopping, so they're the ones that go and

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 4>do that on Sundays. Like it has taken a long time,

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.040
<v Speaker 4>but we definitely have somewhat of a system now. But

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 4>I definitely have a lot of schedule living rent free

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 4>in my head about who is where and when and

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 4>what needs to get done, and I make my lists.

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 5>And then Sean has started We all have like a

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:13.840
<v Speaker 5>line on the calendar in the kitchen now and he

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 5>fills out the calendar for the week of where everybody

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 5>is at and the appointments and then the dinners because

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 5>we make a menu for the week, and then we

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 5>always grocery shop on Sundays, you know, as long as

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 5>everything kind of goes to plan and we've gotten there.

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 5>But the shared calendar is a lifesaver. I always say

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 5>that I've never not parented with four people. I've never

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 5>parented outside of this dynamic, and it's still hard. So

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.720
<v Speaker 5>I mean, if that explains it at all, like parenting

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 5>gets hard.

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 4>But you're starting to see a lot more people that

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 4>even in non romantic relationships of just like moms, single

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 4>moms that are living together and raising their kids together,

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 4>or two sets of friends that are married, you know,

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 4>just like our dynamic, but they don't have that other

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.359
<v Speaker 4>relationship in there that are all living together. One make

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 4>your help hold more affordable, and two now you have

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 4>each other there to help support kids.

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the juicy goodness. Let's get into the

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>logistics of this situation.

0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:09.760
<v Speaker 2>You've moved in together, you're two couples together. Who's sleeping

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>with you? What rooms are we in? How do we

0:48:12.280 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>decide the rules and swapping? And you know who gets

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 2>what and when?

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 5>That has changed over time, much like a lot of

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 5>our relationship and a lot of our boundaries and things

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 5>like that, and Likelysha said, we didn't know what polyamory

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 5>was before and being able to identify it and then

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 5>do research and kind of validate that was huge. I mean,

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 5>even now we learn every day right how to kind

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 5>of function in this relationship because there's no roadmap for it.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.800
<v Speaker 5>So originally we would spend two nights with our married

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 5>spouses and then one with our other partner and kind

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 5>of rotate that way. Well, I was working nights at

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 5>the time when we first started this rotation and it

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 5>was really hard. I specifically wasn't seeing Tyler very much

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 5>at all, and just because of the way our knights fell,

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 5>and we just weren't getting enough time together. So we

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:56.600
<v Speaker 5>switched to every other night and we've just been doing

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 5>that since. And since then we've moved towards a lot

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 5>more non hierarchical relationship. We've worked through even down to

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 5>sharing finances and splitting even time together and not to

0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 5>be equal, right, but to just set ourselves up for

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:14.399
<v Speaker 5>the ability to spend time together as much as we can.

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 5>Like we switch spots on the couch every night, depending

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 5>on whose night it is. We sit by that person.

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 5>We switch seats in the car depending on whose night

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 5>It is, just so that we have opportunities to sit

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 5>next to that person and hold their hand if we

0:49:27.480 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 5>so choose. For us, it just kind of is mostly

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 5>happens naturally. Sometimes I PLoP down on the wrong spot

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 5>and it's not a big deal. You know, It's not

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 5>She's not like, get out of my spot.

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:38.439
<v Speaker 2>It's Friday night, get out of my spot.

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 5>You're in the But it's not something that's like a

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 5>hard rule where it's like, hey, you know, and it's

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 5>like there's any hard feelings about it.

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I used to be the tan. I would

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 4>switch rooms, but once the babies started coming, just didn't

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 4>make sense. And so the guys, Yeah, the guys switch

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:57.840
<v Speaker 4>rooms instead. But Tyler and I keep our stuff together

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 4>in one room, and Taya and Sean keep their stuff

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 4>together in one room, and then they just take their

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 4>pillows and toothbrushes or whatever they need for that night.

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 4>And then essentially it's once you leave that bedroom in

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 4>the morning, it's your day with the opposite person. But

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 4>it's not like I can't go and kiss Tyler even

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 4>though it's my day with Sean. Like those are not

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:20.480
<v Speaker 4>rules in our household. It just happens to be. Like

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:22.800
<v Speaker 4>the only rule would be what happens in the bedroom.

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 5>When it comes to like even flirting or hugging or

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:28.959
<v Speaker 5>kissing like that stuff, or even like cuddling on the couch,

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.359
<v Speaker 5>it's any of that stuff is free for all. If

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 5>there's no boundaries about that doesn't matter whose night it is,

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 5>especially if your partner is home, like say Sean and

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 5>Leisha are home and she needs some physical emotional support

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 5>and it's not her night with him, there's no there's

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 5>no boundary that says you can't go give him a

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 5>hug and cry on his shoulder. But when it comes

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:52.719
<v Speaker 5>to our different needs physically, we keep things strict to

0:50:52.760 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 5>whoever is night it is. If that makes sense.

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Is it really quite free flowing in terms of being

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 1>affectionate and open in front of each other, or have

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>things like let's not I don't want to say, rubbing

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:04.840
<v Speaker 1>each other's face, but like, let's not overly be affectionate

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in front of the other couple, or you just like

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>free for all, it doesn't matter. We're so loving with

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>each other that it doesn't bother us.

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 4>It's pretty much free for all, there might have been

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.400
<v Speaker 4>some feelings at the very beginning, and I think that

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 4>part of it has to do with the fact of,

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, love languages and physical touched Both Taya and

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Tyler are very much physical touch oriented, Sean and I

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 4>not so much. So they might be more touchy feely

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 4>and cuddly and kissing more so than me or Tyler

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.280
<v Speaker 4>or Me and Sean. And at the beginning, I'm just like, oh, shoot,

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.200
<v Speaker 4>like are they not getting what they need from me?

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:36.000
<v Speaker 4>So they're getting it from Taya instead. And then I'm

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 4>just like really realizing them, like I'm good. I don't

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.399
<v Speaker 4>need to have that much physical to you.

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, just buy me the presence I am. Gibbs.

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 5>That's the beauty of this relationship though, And I think

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:50.279
<v Speaker 5>it's something that, especially and as jealousy comes up, that

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.600
<v Speaker 5>you have to let go of. Is like being okay

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 5>with your partner getting something that like if I'm not

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 5>so good at giving them something, and Alicia is being

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 5>okay with her playing to her strengths and kind of

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:03.959
<v Speaker 5>picking up for my weaknesses and giving that to them

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 5>and being happy about it, you know, and not being like, oh,

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 5>I need to step my game up. Here. I mean

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 5>that's not to say that we're not always striving for

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.919
<v Speaker 5>growth and to be what they need, but ultimately, if

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 5>they can get it somewhere else too, then why would

0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 5>we want to take that away from them.

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm very curious about how you navigate conflict.

0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, in any relationship I've ever been in, if

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 3>I've had a big blow up with, you know, my boyfriend,

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 3>We'll have this big argument and I'll go and I'll

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:33.520
<v Speaker 3>talk to brit about it, and I'll say, this is

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:35.320
<v Speaker 3>what happened, blah blahlah, and.

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll hash it out and we'll talk it all through.

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 3>How do you navigate conflict in your situation? Because I

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:42.840
<v Speaker 3>guess if you were to go and talk to another

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 3>person in the quad, it could be a bit of

0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 3>a gang up situation, Like, how do you navigate that?

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:49.480
<v Speaker 5>We learned the hardware.

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 2>We ended up having a mud wrestling five.

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.680
<v Speaker 5>We had all out rolls and ended up taking sides

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:01.800
<v Speaker 5>and putting ourselves in the situations that weren't our fights.

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 4>So nothing to you at all.

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, so we learn the hard way, and that's

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 5>exhausting and it doesn't do anybody any good. And that's

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 5>not to say that we don't vent to each other.

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 5>We absolutely do. Think in the beginning, it made things

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:17.759
<v Speaker 5>kind of difficult because when I'm not spending as much

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:20.960
<v Speaker 5>time just in general with Alicia because our schedules just

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 5>aren't set up that way, and you know, being a

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 5>safe space for my partners where they're having a hard

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.160
<v Speaker 5>time and that's all I'm hearing of her. That really

0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 5>challenged our relationship early in the beginning. So that's something

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 5>we had to work through. But also like, if you're

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 5>not in a place where you can listen to your

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:39.920
<v Speaker 5>partner and not react and not interject yourself in the situation,

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 5>then you've got to speak up or ask permission beforehand, like, hey,

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:45.239
<v Speaker 5>are you in a place where I can vent and

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 5>you can just listen rather than react, because it saves

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 5>a lot of grief in the long run.

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 1>And does the conflict come between all of you in

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:56.879
<v Speaker 1>terms of your husbands that you came into the relationship with,

0:53:56.960 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 1>then your boyfriends and then you too as well friends

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and co parents, the conflicts between everyone, It.

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 4>Just depends on the conflict. There have been conflicts in

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:08.240
<v Speaker 4>between all of us. There are conflicts, And like Taya

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 4>was saying, like if Sean and I are in conflict.

0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 4>At the beginning, him and I could be having a

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.480
<v Speaker 4>problem and her and Tyler would be fine. But then

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Tyler only hears what I have to say about it,

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 4>and he says something to Taya about like why Sean

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:25.279
<v Speaker 4>doing that, And Taya is only hearing Sean's side of it,

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 4>and so then she's like, well, Alicia's doing this. Now

0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:28.879
<v Speaker 4>they ended up.

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:34.800
<v Speaker 5>To follow the Seriously, Yeah, we end up taking sides

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 5>with whoever the story we're hearing, and it just is

0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:40.640
<v Speaker 5>wildly it gets out of control.

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there are times that, like you know, all

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:47.319
<v Speaker 4>four of us genuinely are in a conflict, and there

0:54:47.320 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 4>are some sides that get taken or one person and

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 4>there's three people that are on the opposite side of it,

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:54.640
<v Speaker 4>and you know, we have to have a conversation. And

0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:58.080
<v Speaker 4>at times we have done kind of a majority rules

0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 4>type of thing, but it's that person who is in

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 4>the minority. Their point is not invalidated, their point is

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:07.319
<v Speaker 4>not dismissed. They still need to be heard in a

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 4>conversation needs to be had about it. But ultimately there

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.840
<v Speaker 4>has to be some sort of compromise, and that's what

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 4>we really try and get to well.

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's the age I'd saying, right, there's three

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 2>sides to a story, but in your case, there's full

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 2>science full Yeah.

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Are there at times that or would you ever have

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:31.480
<v Speaker 1>threesomes with Tilett Sean and one of you and not

0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the other? Or do you have any no go you

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 1>know these are my boundaries or is it still like, hey,

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I want to go and you know, be with both

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:42.880
<v Speaker 1>men tonight. Are there those kind of options in the relationship.

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 5>It's been a while, but it has happened, and it's

0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 5>been highly talked about and planned, so it's not something

0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:51.359
<v Speaker 5>that just happens off the cut.

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. What we say is everything is a conversation. So

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 4>if you have a need, if you have a desire

0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:59.400
<v Speaker 4>or anything like that, let's have a conversation about it

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 4>and so that we can all be on the same

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 4>page and talk openly about it and establish boundaries if

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 4>there needs to be, or plan our schedules because there's

0:56:06.920 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 4>four of us and we have four kids, so there

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 4>has to be some prior planning involved too.

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 5>Don't get me wrong. Polyamory in general is a I mean,

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:18.040
<v Speaker 5>one relationship is hard, right, and we have multiple not

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 5>just the two romantic relationships, but relationships between her and

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:24.880
<v Speaker 5>I and relationships between the guys, and so it's been

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 5>a lot of trial and error, a lot of conversations.

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean, we were just joking the other night that

0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:31.640
<v Speaker 5>us sitting down and talking about our schedule even for

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:33.759
<v Speaker 5>the next day, Like we have to make a whole

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 5>list of things we need to talk about that have

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:37.440
<v Speaker 5>come up throughout the day, And we could end up

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 5>sitting there and talking for an hour and a half

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 5>just trying to situate the rest of our week and

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 5>our schedule and things that we need to talk about

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 5>with the kids and things that have come up over

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 5>the you know. And so take your normal relationship conversations

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 5>and check ins and multiply it by four. I mean,

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 5>it's constant, and it can be exhausting, for sure.

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm exhausted trying to manage just mine and my dog's

0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:58.120
<v Speaker 1>relationship along the four of you guys, be full key

0:56:58.800 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about communication. I know other relationships that might be open.

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Everyone has different rules with Okay, yes you can go

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and be with other people. I don't want to know

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>about it. Yes you can go and be with other people.

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I need to know every single thing that happened in

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:13.320
<v Speaker 1>your relationship with the four of you. Do you openly

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 1>talk to each other's partners about what you did with

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 1>the other partner or is it a rule of Like,

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 1>obviously you guys are open in terms of talking with

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 1>each other about general life and swapping and how it's

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 1>going to work, But are you allowed to share the

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 1>intimate details with each partner?

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 5>I think that depends who you're talking to.

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if that person wants to know. I'm one of

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 4>those people that at the beginning I would ask Tyler

0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 4>a lot of questions because I thought I wanted to know,

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 4>And then over time I realized that it was not

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 4>healthy for me, and I was experiencing a lot of

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 4>jealousy and comparing myself.

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.040
<v Speaker 2>You're like, what she does reverse cowgirl. I can't do

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 2>reverse cowgal. I don't want to know that.

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:51.560
<v Speaker 5>You have a tendency to compare or if it gives

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 5>you negative feelings, why do it? Especially when way of

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 5>established trusts and things like that.

0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 4>And I'm a little bit more closed when it comes

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.880
<v Speaker 4>to those types of conversations, and Taya's a lot more open,

0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 4>and I know that if I asked her, she would

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 4>be more than willing to share those details and same

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:07.880
<v Speaker 4>with Tyler with me, but I've just for my own

0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:09.920
<v Speaker 4>mental health. I'm just like you know what, I'm good.

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 4>That doesn't affect my relationship with Tyler. It doesn't affect

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 4>my relationship with Sean. So why am I putting myself

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 4>through that?

0:58:14.920 --> 0:58:15.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Can we talk about the kids?

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:21.000
<v Speaker 3>So did you actively make the decision together we think

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 3>would like to add to our family or was it

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:25.960
<v Speaker 3>something that you just got pregnant and because both of

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 3>you got pregnant quite close together, is that correct?

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, both of the guys had had the secondmies previously

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 5>and both of them had reversals, so it was a

0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 5>big decision. Yeah.

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:37.880
<v Speaker 4>So Sean had had his reversal before Tyler and I

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 4>met them, and it was actually Teya took Sean to

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 4>get his reversal and they met us. We talked about

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 4>having more case the country. Yeah, over in Oklahoma because

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 4>it was way cheaper to travel and go to this

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 4>clinic in Oklahoma. So when we had made the decision

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 4>and we talked about it more because I had always

0:58:57.440 --> 0:58:59.600
<v Speaker 4>wanted a third kid, but Tyler and I were just

0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 4>so exhausted our first who are only seventeen months apart,

0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:05.040
<v Speaker 4>and it was just so much work, and we're like,

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:06.760
<v Speaker 4>you know what, it's fine, We're just going to have two.

0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:08.600
<v Speaker 4>And then we're like, well, I've always wanted to have

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 4>a third, and we have partners now that are going

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:14.520
<v Speaker 4>to be here and support us in this endeavor, so

0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 4>why not you.

0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Have additional support now? Yeah?

0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So Tyler and Taya actually went to the same clinic.

0:59:20.240 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Back to Oklahoma frequent flyer. I needed two for one deal,

0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:27.360
<v Speaker 2>but I ended.

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:31.240
<v Speaker 4>Up getting pregnant first, very fertile, so it happened with

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 4>real dark quick for me.

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 2>They just look at you and you're like, damn it.

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah again.

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's why I'm like, I am on birth control

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 4>until you.

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:39.880
<v Speaker 5>Guys are fast. Well, now they both have a second

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 5>new schedule next month, so we're done.

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Don then yeah, so you do get that fourth step

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:45.840
<v Speaker 1>within a week.

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<v Speaker 5>Of each other.

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<v Speaker 4>Part they're going to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>So at least you got pregnant first, and then what

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<v Speaker 1>was the time difference? And too, you got pregnant Tya.

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<v Speaker 4>The boys are seven months apart, so it was like

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<v Speaker 4>six weeks before I had Barrett that you are pregnant

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<v Speaker 4>pretty close to the end. We weren't pregnant at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time for.

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<v Speaker 2>Very long, and you're pregnant again, I am, I am not? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and so how far a long are you now?

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be twenty one weeks on Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well congrats, So that's number fine? Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>You had two together and then this is a fit okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And the interesting part I guess about this. Maybe people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know this yet, we haven't established it yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>you as a quad have decided not to find out

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<v Speaker 1>who the fathers are of the children that you've already

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<v Speaker 1>had and this one that you're currently pregnant with.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 5>Right? We chose not to find out the biology between

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<v Speaker 5>the two guys, or we didn't regulate biology, I should.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, is that because you think that it could affect

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<v Speaker 3>the paternal relationship between the dads and the boy, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>the dads and the kids.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that that choice was made out of fear.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that that choice was made out of just

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<v Speaker 5>genuine like showing how much it didn't matter to us,

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<v Speaker 5>Like not that we had something to prove, but it

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<v Speaker 5>just didn't feel necessary for us. And although it may

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<v Speaker 5>feel necessary to the boys, someday, and if it does,

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<v Speaker 5>then we'll take that journey together. But us as their parents,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, having especially parenting Dylan and Rena like and

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<v Speaker 5>not being their biological parent, it just didn't matter to us.

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<v Speaker 4>Both the guys are fantastic dads to the kids, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that finding out biology would change that.

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly don't think that was part of the decision

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<v Speaker 4>at all. It was just kind of one of those

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<v Speaker 4>things where we didn't regulate and whatever happened happened because

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<v Speaker 4>we knew we wanted to have more kids. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's exactly that if they ever want to find out,

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<v Speaker 4>we will absolutely take that journey with them. But so

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<v Speaker 4>many people are so concerned about, like what about health histories.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, well, it's one of two options. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 4>both live here.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know their health history.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so yeah, we have as they talked to the counselors,

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<v Speaker 5>they're okay, their doctors are okay. Like people get really

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<v Speaker 5>concerned about that. But ultimately, yeah, we went through every

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<v Speaker 5>scenario and said, like, how would I feel if Alicia

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<v Speaker 5>ultimately got pregnant and Sean was the biological father or

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<v Speaker 5>vice versa, and we all were just like, I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't care, like that'd be kind of cool. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like for us, it just didn't matter, and so

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<v Speaker 5>ultimately we just didn't regulate that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know that a family doesn't need to be blood.

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<v Speaker 1>A parent, a sister, a brother, whoever it is, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be blood related. There are far more people

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<v Speaker 1>that have been brought up by people that are not

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<v Speaker 1>related to them that are related anyway. So I one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent agree, And I understand why you're saying it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter, because it genuinely doesn't this for of you

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<v Speaker 1>that love them. So when the time comes that one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, do you think that they're going to want

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<v Speaker 1>to find out? Do you do you guys talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you say, hey, I'm sure that when they hit ten, twelve, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to want to know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have any fears about that, about it changing

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<v Speaker 5>a thing, you know, for our kids maybe, But ultimately,

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<v Speaker 5>I think with how we've raised them, and because they

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<v Speaker 5>have brothers and sisters of different biologies, are ready Because

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Dylan and Reina are biologically Tyler and Alisha's

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<v Speaker 5>and we know this, I don't see it mattering to

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<v Speaker 5>them either. I think, you know, say they get to

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<v Speaker 5>high school and end up talking about biology, and maybe

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<v Speaker 5>they want to know because they want to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to participate in their family lineage and whatever that looks like.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I see that maybe as an intrigue, but

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<v Speaker 5>I don't see it changing our family dynamic at all.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spoken a lot about all the positives in a

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<v Speaker 1>polyamorous relationship. What do you think some of the hurdles

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<v Speaker 1>have been all the hardest parts have been about navigating

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<v Speaker 1>a polyamorous relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when it comes to kids, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of hurdles about being able to be recognized as having

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<v Speaker 4>four parents, Like having to fill out a form so

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<v Speaker 4>that Taya or Sean can take one of my biological

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<v Speaker 4>children to the doctor if something were to happen to

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<v Speaker 4>one of our sets of couples. Legally, the state doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>see the other kids as belonging to them, and so

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<v Speaker 4>like making sure that you have a will in place

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<v Speaker 4>or some sort of advance directive, because there's not any

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<v Speaker 4>sort of legal way to show that you are four

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<v Speaker 4>parents that are of equal rights for them still being

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<v Speaker 4>married to your.

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<v Speaker 5>Original there's nothing that protects us legally.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's actually something I didn't think of, A really

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<v Speaker 1>good question. Who do you put down on the birth

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<v Speaker 1>certificate as the father?

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<v Speaker 5>So for our state, we were told originally for the

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<v Speaker 5>two boys that we have had together, that it should

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<v Speaker 5>be the legal spouse that goes down. If you're legally married,

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<v Speaker 5>then the legal spouse automatically goes down as the father.

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<v Speaker 5>I have since been told that there is an option

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<v Speaker 5>to put a second father down. I have started to

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<v Speaker 5>look into that, but ultimately I need to start getting

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<v Speaker 5>on the phone and get some because online it's like

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<v Speaker 5>there's so much information that isn't relevant to this, like

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<v Speaker 5>very specific question that I have. But ultimately that's something

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<v Speaker 5>i'd love to get to the bottom of before we

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<v Speaker 5>have this baby. I asked Tyler actually a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>days ago, like, is this something I should be looking into?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want to be listed if that's a possibility,

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<v Speaker 5>And he said absolutely. But we've also talked about third

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<v Speaker 5>party adoption, which also is legal in our state, which

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<v Speaker 5>we've talked about both of us adopting our non biological

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<v Speaker 5>children so that they would have a legal third parent

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<v Speaker 5>in each couple. If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you just put the the couple down as like

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<v Speaker 1>guardians or the godparents or yeah, like you said, just

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that in a will.

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<v Speaker 3>In a will, Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of boops

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<v Speaker 3>to jump through, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It just it seems like a lot of admin But

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<v Speaker 2>it's the.

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<v Speaker 4>Same sort of thing about like health insurance and things

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<v Speaker 4>like that. You can't list another partner on any sort

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<v Speaker 4>of health insurance or finances and stuff. So we just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of have to try and work around what the

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<v Speaker 4>system is. Because the system is built for monogamy, for

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<v Speaker 4>not monogamy, but like a two person What.

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<v Speaker 1>About when you give the children last names? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>hyphen for both of you or do you pick the

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<v Speaker 1>partnership that had the child, Because I assume you want

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<v Speaker 1>to all feel like one family and you want all

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<v Speaker 1>the kids to feel like they're immunity, and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>All have the same last names, so you get a

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<v Speaker 2>new one.

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<v Speaker 5>We're talking about it making up a new last name today.

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<v Speaker 5>The two boys that we've had together have hyphenated last names.

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<v Speaker 5>At the time. We have talked about hyphenating all of

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<v Speaker 5>our last names, but we've talked about doing it after

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<v Speaker 5>we've had a commitment ceremony, it is fun for us

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<v Speaker 5>to fill in the gaps of a traditional relationship escalator,

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<v Speaker 5>if that makes sense. It's fun to talk about having

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<v Speaker 5>a big party and celebrating. You know, we can't be

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<v Speaker 5>legally married, but it's fun to talk about doing a

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<v Speaker 5>commitment ceremony and celebrating each other and then looking into

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<v Speaker 5>third party adoption and ultimately all hyphenating our last names

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<v Speaker 5>so that we would all have I mean obviously and

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<v Speaker 5>want our siblings to all have similar last names. That

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<v Speaker 5>would be ideal, But we were talking today and throwing around. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 5>our last name combinations are not great so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that happens in our Facebook group. So there's seventy

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand people in our Facebook group now, and I

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<v Speaker 3>really common thing. People will ask for wedding hashtags, which

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<v Speaker 3>basically amalgamates the last names into something funny. So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>we can put a thread in there and see what

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<v Speaker 3>we can come up with.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, maybe how group can come up that would

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<v Speaker 2>be such an honus.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, because Haddres or rod Liss is just not it.

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<v Speaker 2>If we could come up with something cool, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>can't be rodless.

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<v Speaker 4>Rock.

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<v Speaker 5>You have too many boys for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Not too much you can do that. You cannot. You

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<v Speaker 2>cannot do that. You cannot put your kid into run lesson.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>For a couple or an individual that was wants to, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, go and have a little adventure, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>dip their toes into polyamory, what would be your suggestions

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<v Speaker 1>for them?

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<v Speaker 2>What are some tips? Where do they start? What would

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<v Speaker 2>you want them to know?

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<v Speaker 5>For me, it's just immerse yourself in the community, because

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<v Speaker 5>there is so much to learn, and there are so

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<v Speaker 5>many feelings that come up, and being able to know

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<v Speaker 5>like that those feelings are valid and the best ways

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<v Speaker 5>to approach them, and the best ways to communicate your

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<v Speaker 5>partner and things like that. Like just educate yourself, even

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<v Speaker 5>if it's online, even if you don't have a community

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<v Speaker 5>in your area, just joining as many groups and things

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<v Speaker 5>as you can, you know, even if it's Instagram, videos

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<v Speaker 5>or TikTok or whatever it may be, podcasts or books.

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<v Speaker 5>Educate yourself as much as possible, because a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>feelings come up, a lot of hard feelings come up,

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<v Speaker 5>and the more that you can educate yourself and be

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<v Speaker 5>able to validate those feelings, the easier they are to

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<v Speaker 5>work through.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask a step back from that. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>have a bit of a curiosity. Was that the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you were like, well, maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>I am actually considering something else, and then you had

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation with your partner at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it just a curiosity about other people? Was there

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<v Speaker 2>something a little bit more distinct.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that someone may recognize in themselves listening to

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<v Speaker 3>this and go, oh, maybe that's what that is.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that it's different for everybody. I remember telling

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<v Speaker 5>Sean early on that when we were talking about swinging,

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<v Speaker 5>because the whole idea of swinging came up watching a

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<v Speaker 5>TV show that had a tryad in it. So it

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<v Speaker 5>was a polyamorous relationship, but it didn't teach us much, right.

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<v Speaker 5>But I remember saying, I see how people could do that,

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<v Speaker 5>but I don't think that that's for me, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>so at the time it was like, Okay, I can

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<v Speaker 5>see how that would work. I just can't see myself

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<v Speaker 5>in that situation. I didn't know that I was capable

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<v Speaker 5>of that until I fell in love with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 5>But I know for some people they find polyamory and

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<v Speaker 5>they're like, holy crap, so many things make sense, right,

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<v Speaker 5>Like that explains why I haven't been in a committed

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<v Speaker 5>relationship long term because I get bored or my needs

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<v Speaker 5>aren't met or whatever it may be. I can't settle

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<v Speaker 5>on one person, And it can really make a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of things make sense where they might have just thought

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<v Speaker 5>I just can't find my person or I haven't found

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<v Speaker 5>my person to maybe I want multiple people.

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<v Speaker 4>And there is like a big community out there, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's Facebook groups. You can go on there

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<v Speaker 4>and request to join and just read through people's stories

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<v Speaker 4>and then when you feel comfortable enough being able to

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<v Speaker 4>go and ask your own questions, because there's nothing better

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<v Speaker 4>than asking somebody who's experienced that what their take is,

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<v Speaker 4>and like, exactly what you're doing is asking, like what

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<v Speaker 4>things should you talk about? Like how do you even

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<v Speaker 4>start that conversation?

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<v Speaker 5>I always tell people to, like, if you're interested in

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<v Speaker 5>it and your partner is hesitant or they don't understand,

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<v Speaker 5>or they have questions, find somebody who shares their life online,

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<v Speaker 5>who it looks like kind of what you imagine, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're interested in a quad and dating another couple,

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<v Speaker 5>share our videos with them, you know, share some real

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<v Speaker 5>life stories with them so they can see how it works.

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<v Speaker 5>Because if you're just talking about it, and it's so different.

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<v Speaker 5>You've never seen it before. It can be really hard

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<v Speaker 5>to imagine, but if you see people living it, it

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<v Speaker 5>can be a lot easier to wrap your head around.

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<v Speaker 1>We just want to say a huge thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming and so openly sharing your story today. For anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that does want to go and check you guys out,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe learn some more about the dynamics, how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can people find you guys?

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, we're on TikTok and Instagram. We do have a YouTube,

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<v Speaker 5>but man I slack on posting there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because you have five kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea.

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<v Speaker 5>The goal is to get better at it, but all

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<v Speaker 5>under the same user name Polyfamory.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll put links for all of that in our show

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<v Speaker 3>notes as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's p l l y FA m O r Y,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the combination of polyamory and family that Tyler created.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, we might have to try and help you

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<v Speaker 2>come out with your last name. Anyway, we'll put it.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll put it in our Facebook group. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 2>the lifeers can come up with a new Last.

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<v Speaker 5>Night, You're welcome. Thank you for having us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, we never finished an episode without our

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<v Speaker 1>sucking our suite, the highlight and the lo light of

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<v Speaker 1>the Weekkisha, do you want to kick it off?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I keep it off with my sweet or my suck?

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<v Speaker 2>You are as bad as Laura. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>We have done four hundred episodes over four years, and

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<v Speaker 1>every week Laura gets it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>The suck goes first because we like to finish on

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<v Speaker 2>the hut. Okay, suck the glued to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>My suck for the week is that I am so

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<v Speaker 3>newly invested in the vander Pump Rules scandal you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are previous to last Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>I had never watched an episode of the show in

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<v Speaker 3>my whole life. I recognize Lisa vander Pump because she's

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<v Speaker 3>an og Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that she owns all the restaurants, and I understood the

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<v Speaker 3>premise of the show. Had not watched one minute of it. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>this scandal. If you haven't heard about the scandal, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like it's gonna be the scandal of our generation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Sweet recapped ten seasons of vand Pump Rules right

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<v Speaker 1>now for your suck.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't, but I'll give a really quick recap. There

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<v Speaker 3>were a couple, they were life partners. They were together

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<v Speaker 3>for nine years. Turns out he has been having an

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<v Speaker 3>affair seven months with the best friend. Okay, they did

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<v Speaker 3>a reunion, Yes there is. It's a three part reunion

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<v Speaker 3>special and they're airing it once per week on Binge.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, previous to this, I was like whatever, I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Read all the articles and I listened to it on

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<v Speaker 3>podcasts and blah blah blah, and I was relatively invested that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Wow, that's that's pretty heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a cheating scandal.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I have watched the first episode and I have

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<v Speaker 3>never craved the new episode of something more in my

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<v Speaker 3>whole entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your suck.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to wait another six days and then I

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait another week for the third episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you only watch the first of the reunion, not

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<v Speaker 1>the first of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>So I watched the reunion episode, and then I went

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<v Speaker 3>back and.

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<v Speaker 1>Watched the previous episodes because I also Kisha and I

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<v Speaker 1>stumbled across this together well with some other friends that

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about band pont Raw scandal, so we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we feel out the loop. Yes, I also went to

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<v Speaker 1>try and watch it, and I went from the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the last season because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>need some background and I'm not watching ten seasons. So

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<v Speaker 1>I went to season ten, episode one, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch the whole season to really get a vibe

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<v Speaker 1>for the Scandal, and then watch the Scandal series.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't get into it. We'll just skip ahead because

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<v Speaker 2>it so spicy, Like it's so unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching this shit and I'm like, maybe I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to watch the ten seasons before, but I'm like, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just not hitting home for me. And I know that's

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<v Speaker 2>controversial because I know it's a huge show. It's huge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably the most streamed thing this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon, Oh absolutely, but it may suck because now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so deeply invested and I have to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>So long in betweens.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, what's your sweet My sweep for the week

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<v Speaker 3>is that this year I am turning thirty. Our birthdays

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<v Speaker 3>in August Britain, I have the same birthday for anyone

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<v Speaker 3>playing at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty first of August birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>I said that I wanted to go to Italy for

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<v Speaker 3>my birthday. It's my favorite country to holiday in. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've said this before, but like, my life

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't look like what I thought it would look like

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<v Speaker 3>at thirty, and in most ways it's so much better

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<v Speaker 3>than I ever could have imagined. But I was like, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, what's something that I really want to do

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<v Speaker 3>to like kind of celebrate that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've said that I've wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>To be in Italy for my thirtieth birthday, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I finally booked flights to go, And turns out traveling

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<v Speaker 3>to Europe at the moment is a lot more expensive

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<v Speaker 3>than what it used to be all summer day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, summer in Europe now post pandemic crazy, it's very expensive. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>check out a small loan. It's kidney like that. She's

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<v Speaker 2>for the flight people. Actually they need to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so I booked the flights and I was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like, look the price of this.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a big.

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<v Speaker 3>Present to myself because your thirtyth is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>a big celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love it. Yes, Italy is an incredible country.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very very jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>So many aparol spreits are so much lemon trello. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited. What is your suck for the week?

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<v Speaker 2>My suck would be.

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<v Speaker 1>This actually just happened this morning. I took to for

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<v Speaker 1>our very standard morning walk. She did a really big ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like I always picked my poos up like always. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I put my hand in the bag, pick it up.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a huge hole in the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>My hand went, my hand went straight in through it

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<v Speaker 1>to the poop, straight into.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a warm, whippy ice cream. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was my that was my sock. That's nice, it's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Rank It was so I saw that, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>and I so I had to scrape around it with

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<v Speaker 2>a hole in the bag. It was not a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not a moment which did you like wipe

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<v Speaker 3>your hand on the.

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<v Speaker 2>LICTI c no, I went to the bathroom and washed them.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucky there was a public toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>So my sweet this week, I guess I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say it was winning the award.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I should come up with something different, and I tried to,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was definitely a highlight for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a week highlight. It's like a year highlight.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually so so stoked and so proud of

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<v Speaker 3>you because I saw you, like in the lead up

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<v Speaker 3>to it, and I was like, do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to do a right, like, do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>You could maybe go trophy and you were like no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Like you're kind of like no, no, I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of going along because I think it'll be a good

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<v Speaker 3>like networking experience and it'd be cool to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>And which was hosted totally support a friend or did

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<v Speaker 2>we know our girls coming home with the gold? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So that was one hundred percent my sweet. That is

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<v Speaker 2>it from us, guys. Please keep your accidental.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfilters coming in confessionals, any funny stories. The call out

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